Point of View August 7, 2026 – Hour 2: Weekend Edition

[00:00:04] Across America, live. This is Point of View. And now, Liberty McCartney. All right. It's the second hour of our weekend edition. And if you want to look at anything we're talking about today, you can read the links to the articles that we're discussing at pointofview.net.

[00:00:30] We've been talking about this National Review article. The concept of America is on the ballot. And so we were just talking about the Democratic Socialists of America and really what they are targeting is the Constitution of the United States. They don't want there to be a Senate. They don't want lifetime appointments for the Supreme Court. I think a lot of them probably don't even want the Supreme Court as we understand it today. They want to abolish the Electoral College, abolish ICE, so many other things.

[00:00:59] But another interesting and I think important aspect of this article is just how divided Americans are. And so even if some of the Democrats who were saying a minute ago, Dr. Matthews, maybe they don't necessarily support everything that's on the DSA platform. They might not even pay attention to or or listen to counter arguments from anybody on the right because we're just so polarized.

[00:01:27] And it goes through and it lists the approval ratings of Biden and Trump among the opposing party. And it's like almost non-existent. But in the old days, maybe it was a little more common if somebody was doing a fairly good job to for people even on the opposite party to have a little bit of a higher approval rating for a president. But I don't know. What's your perspective on that? Was it that we were at least both parties were operating within the context of a constitution that we agreed on?

[00:01:57] You know, Aaron mentioned that the Democrats have been this has been a long time coming. People may not remember, but in the 2020 presidential election, Bernie Sanders was running for president. Yeah. And he was doing so well against Joe Biden that Jim Clyburn, a prominent African-American congressman from South Carolina, went to Biden and said,

[00:02:17] if you will promise to I can't remember if it was the vice president or the Supreme Court appoint a black lady, I will support you in South Carolina and we'll see if we can't get South Carolina for you. Biden made the promise. And so he won South Carolina and that sort of changed the trajectory of that of that election. But Bernie Sanders, who is essentially embraces most he may not embrace the ending the Senate, some of the things that the Democratic Socialists of America have recently added to their platform.

[00:02:47] But he's very far along where they are. So I don't this is something that's been happening in Democrats. Second thing I'd mention is the Democratic Socialists and the Socialists in general are very good at messaging. They understand this. Bernie Sanders doesn't say I want to create a government run health care system. He says, I want a program called Medicare for all. Medicare is a very popular system.

[00:03:15] And so now if you say Medicare for all, it sounds like we're all in the Medicare system. We are not in the Medicare system. His program is not Medicare for all is it is a government run health care system. That's health care is free for everybody. So they're good at marketing. Zoran Mamdami from New York. I listened to him on the Jon Stewart show before he when he was getting close to the election. He comes across as a very amiable, happy person, congenial.

[00:03:44] I mean, he just seemed like a happy person. Jon Stewart's eating it all up. They come across as as good, happy warriors who want to make some really necessary changes. And as I was listening to Zoran, I thought, I think I'd like this guy if I sat down with him. He just seems like a very amiable person. They have a but they are carrying an agenda that's completely different than anything we've had in America.

[00:04:06] Yeah. You know, it makes me think that it really is a tactic to try to use so many attacks against the opposite side that aren't true, but just labels. So that anything that maybe, you know, a Republican might say to to a person who's considering voting for a Mamdani or something like that is automatically it's it's racist. It's bigoted. It's, you know, sexist. It's whatever.

[00:04:33] And I'm not even going to listen to that counter argument about what we're actually talking about. And it is you have to establish that, though, and completely eradicate any sort of trust for the other side so that you can convince people with your ideas without really fleshing them out very much, because, you know, that people aren't really going to listen to any counter arguments. It seems like that's kind of where we are in our politics.

[00:04:55] When did we start and maybe, Dr. Matthews, you know, like when when did we stop having like civil debates and discussions? Because I think social media has created these echo chambers that you can put yourself in. Right. Even the news that you choose to listen to puts you in an echo chamber. So at what point was it right? Like I've said it on the show before. I'll say it again. Like what happened to the West Wing Democrats like from the TV show where when did we get away from like,

[00:05:25] oh, I can say that Bill Clinton has done more for religious liberty than any president with the exception of Donald Trump? I'm going to say somewhere around 2008 to 2010. I used to get I occasionally used to get invitations from groups that would disagree with me on health policy and ask me to come. And I love I love going to groups that I disagree with. And you could say you can make your points. They would come back and they respond to things going to the Federalist Society.

[00:05:52] I'm a spokesperson for the for their their Speakers Bureau. And you could go to the colleges and you could say, here's my position. And you'd get some interaction and so forth. And it was great. Love doing it somewhere around. I don't know if you want to say Twitter or what somewhere. The social media or something changed this such that you just can't have these intellectual debates anymore. I've talked about this in when we were in college. We used to go to debate.

[00:06:21] If somebody was coming in with a presentation that I disagreed with, I'd go and listen. I didn't go to hoot them down and stop them from speaking. I'd want to go see what they had to say, because that's how you interact. And you sort of help improve your own arguments. But somewhere I would say around 2010, 2008, we changed. You know, I remember back when I was writing for the stream, I think it was around 2017 or maybe 2016.

[00:06:47] There was a study out that I wrote a column on that majorities of both Democrats and Republicans thought that their opponents were were morally evil. And I think it was slightly more Democrats that thought that their Republicans, but it was it was high on both sides. And I remember somebody reporting on this in The Atlantic, too, who was some sort of, you know, political staffer on the Hill and remembered the days when he would sit with his Republican counterpart.

[00:07:16] And they were working for opposing parties, but they would share a pizza on the steps of the Capitol at the end of the day. And just it's that same that same idea of being able to agree, but still respect each or disagree, but still respect each other. But if you think that your opponent is morally evil, then you're not going to have any interest in having any sort of civil relationship or interaction. Yeah. And some of that may have happened when Gingrich became Speaker of the House. But later on, it just sort of moved in.

[00:07:46] And I, to your point, I've I've been at one of the restaurants in Washington where Robert Byrd and Strom Thurmond, two older people who were powerful Republican and Democrat, and they were having dinner with two or three other people and they were having a great time. This would have probably been, you know, 2004, 2005, something like that. You had that ability to be able to meet with other people on the other side of the aisle and and even sometimes persuade them to join you with your votes on things.

[00:08:15] It has just changed in a way that you really can't do that anymore. Yeah, it's sad. And it's a reminder that, you know, so much of what we see with regard to politics is the headlines. It's the social media posts. But when you get to actually interacting with just a normal person who lives in the real world, then lean into the conversation, maybe even if you disagree and see if at least at the local level we can recover some of that. There's a lot more to talk about when we get back from the short break.

[00:08:44] This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson. Common sense is surfacing in many of the policies and programs associated with transgenderism.

[00:09:11] One illustration can be found in a recent article about the long march out of the gender clinics. The author provides a transcript of a video in England that has gone viral. The interview is with Labor Member of Parliament and Health Secretary James Murray. He was asked about his evaluation of puberty blockers as well as the Cass Review study that raised significant questions about the way in which hormones and surgeries were recommended by the government.

[00:09:36] The interviewer challenged the fact that he'd been pro-trans in the past and seemed to be backing off of his previous aggressive stance. Although he said he had changed his mind, many argued that he could see the cultural winds blowing the other way and lost his dogmatism. At the same time, there was another article about the fact that one of the most gender-affirming care arguments used by proponents was based on a flawed study. If a child wanted to change sexes, the parents were informed that not to do so would increase the likelihood their child could commit suicide.

[00:10:06] In other words, do you want a trans child or a dead child? The initial study that was published in the journal Nature Human Behavior was authored by researchers from the Trevor Project, a trans advocacy group. This study has been cited hundreds of times in the news and court cases. Although the study looked at 48 states, much of the purported increase in attempted suicides came from one state. I encourage you to follow the link in the analysis of their research so that you can see the legitimate concerns with the study.

[00:10:35] The transgender debate has needed some common sense. It appears that some has finally come to this discussion. I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view. Go deeper on topics like you just heard by visiting pointofview.net. That's pointofview.net.

[00:11:00] You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Okay, so we know who's really to blame for all these problems in America. It's the elites, right? And that's maybe something that people on the left and the right can agree with. But hold on. Let's define our terms here. Who are the elites? Well, there's an article that I thought was entertaining and also a little thought-provoking in the Wall Street Journal.

[00:11:28] And it's asking who do Americans really think the elites are? It's kind of become a pejorative on both the left. Yes, it has. I mean, talking about, you know, the socialist left and then the populist right. Right? So here are just a few things, and then we can talk about this and have some fun with it. But a recent survey asked 3,000 registered voters who counted as the elites.

[00:11:51] 77% of Americans consider billionaires to be elites, and 60% described celebrities as elites. 48% thought business executives were elites. Only 43% counted elected officials as elites. A quarter of Americans said anyone making more than $200,000 a year were elites. 70% of Trump voters thought that billionaires were elites, where 86% of Kamala Harris voters thought that billionaires were elites.

[00:12:20] And it goes on and on. Basically, there's no real consensus, which means elites has kind of become a shorthand for your political enemies. So I don't know. So, Erin, who do you think the elites are? Well, I take your points while taking about defining terms. It's really important, right? If you're going to start in on a conversation with someone and there's going to be disagreement, that you make sure that you're talking about the same thing. So that lays some ground rules.

[00:12:48] Because what I can tell you is that there are a lot of places in the world that if you ask them that question, they would say Americans are elites. Right? Anyone that owns a refrigerator is an elite. Right? Because you know that that is a status symbol in a lot of places. Right? So it's all about perspective. Who are the elites? Well, I can tell you who the elites are. The people pushing the DSA. That's who the elites are. Right? Well, they are pretty educated.

[00:13:15] That's the point of the article is if it's somebody that you disagree with, all of a sudden, that's the elite class that's pushing it. But, you know, Dr. Matthews, you were talking offline and are off the air. And I liked your definition. Yeah, my definition was somebody with power who thinks he or she is better than me. And that could be an academic. But it doesn't have to do with money. I actually know one billionaire. And he is the nicest guy in the world.

[00:13:44] He's self-effacing. You would not, if you just met him someplace, you would say, yeah, this is a nice, educated person. But you wouldn't know he was a billionaire. But we also know some academics who think they are better than everybody because they think they know so much more than the rest of us. We know some liberals who think they are better than us because they think they have the right ethics. And we are just not as concerned about poverty or other things or the Palestinians or other things.

[00:14:12] So I tend to put it in a more general category of someone who has some power who thinks he or she is better than me. And since I think people are created equal, I'm not sure there's anybody who's better than me. Yeah. You know, we talk about there's different classes of elites too, right? There's the ivory tower elite. There's the journalist elite. There are the coastal elites. No one ever talks about the middle America elites, I don't think.

[00:14:39] But, okay, if I was going to define elite, this is going to get into the weeds a little bit. So anybody who's been on Twitter slash X for a long time might get this. But seven years ago, and it was just re-upped as a reminder, this was in the middle of the big Second Amendment gun rights debate. So there were people arguing that we need to get rid of what they call assault weapons. What they actually mean by that is usually an AR-15.

[00:15:05] And so a regular, you know, regular Joe from somewhere in middle America posted and went viral because of this. And I don't think he expected that. Legit question for rural Americans. How do I kill the 30 to 50 feral hogs that run into my yard within three to five minutes while my small kids play? Meaning if you take away my AR-15s.

[00:15:26] You would not believe how that guy got dunked on by so many people online. And I don't know, Erin, you're from Oklahoma. I'm from Texas. I thought that was a perfectly legitimate question. If you've ever seen Old Yeller, it should be a perfectly legitimate question because feral hogs are mean. And they're dangerous. And I know people who go out and shoot them when they open the season up because they are so mean and they're destructive.

[00:15:56] They are. And they total cars. I know multiple people who have had their cars totaled by feral hogs. Really? Oh, yeah. I mean, they'll be as big as, you know, a small cow. Like, not getting it all.

[00:16:08] So this was funny to me because of so many people making fun of this guy from rural America, a place like this, because he might need a gun to defend his kids from wild packs of very large feral hogs, basically saying, you know, why on earth would you would you need that to, you know, to deal with Wilbur from Charlotte's Web or something like that? So, you know, that's a very niche example.

[00:16:31] But I think so much of it comes down to not having similar experiences, just like, you know, you have people who can't even that. America is so big. Like, it is so big. It's so different. You maybe have people who have spent their whole life in New York City or on the East Coast, and maybe they're perfectly fine people, but they can't fathom what it might be like for somebody who is in rural Texas where feral hogs are a real big nuisance in everyday life. And so, anyways, I don't know.

[00:17:00] That was my kind of funny, kind of niche example of what an elite might be. I think that's really – that's a good point. And one of the things that makes America awesome is how diverse it is, how diverse geography is and lifestyles and those sorts of things. I have been asked if I rode my horse to school. I have been asked that question. I've known a horse. I maybe have only seen that a couple of times in Texas. I have ridden a horse.

[00:17:28] And, yes, our parking lot was full of red dirt mud off of the trucks from the people that lived on dirt roads. But, you know, it's – just because – and this goes back to the previous point about having conversations with people. Yeah. Go learn about other people's experiences. It might change your mind. You might realize, oh, there's a valid use for this thing that I think that I hate. And maybe there's a reason that they disagree with me. That's a legitimate reason.

[00:17:58] Feral hogs is a legitimate reason to need a firearm because if you're going to, what, I don't know, restrict us to crossbows? Are those allowed still? That takes a long time to, like, load that thing up. It's not like the movies. You've got to be pretty strong. Pretty strong to do it. I don't know. Absolutely. I don't know. I've seen the Odyssey, and they can shoot a bow pretty quickly. It's true. It's true. Well, we're not all Odysseus, okay? We'll have to get some training, I guess.

[00:18:24] So another question, though, if we really want to dig into the psychology behind this, is why are so many people obsessed with the elites? And to me, it seems like I think we're seeing this on kind of the far right or maybe the populist right and the socialist left is that people want somebody to blame, especially for their economic problems or anything that goes wrong. And I think there are some legitimate complaints.

[00:18:51] Another definition of elite might be out of touch for, like, the everyday American, whether that's just intellectually out of touch or financially out of touch. But I don't know. It does seem like more people want a scapegoat. They want to blame somebody. So that's why so many people do tend to say the elites. And people of the other party, and that's why I think Aaron's point is so important.

[00:19:16] Get to know other people, and if you talk to them, you often find out that you agree on some things. You know, for 17 years, I was on the Texas State Commission for the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, so the Texas State Committee. And I was chair of it or vice chair for most of the years. So we had usually eight Democrats and eight Republicans, eight liberals, eight conservatives, something like that. We got along well.

[00:19:41] We were working on various issues that we both cared about, and all those issues passed unanimously. When we would do a paper, we would release that paper. I could work with Democrats. Democrats could work with me and other people on the committee. We had people from Alliance Defending Freedom on the committee. So you can do that, but we had certain interests, and we worked with them.

[00:20:04] And I felt that most of them, even though I would disagree with some of them on certain issues, we could get along fine on the things we were focused on. And I wouldn't come away thinking any of these people want to destroy America, even though I might not agree with some of their ideas. Yeah, that's so important. You have to have conversations with people. You've got to connect. You've got to be willing to get outside of your comfort zone a little bit, too. Well, and I had a professor that when I graduated from law school, he looked us all in the eyes, and he said,

[00:20:34] you are the elite now, right? Like, you have this education. You are the elite now. People are going to not like you because of this, and you need to be prepared for that. That's because you're a lawyer, not an education. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Point well taken, Dr. Matthews. Yes, I've been the brunt of many a lawyer joke. Yeah. Well, you know, I think you made a good point, too.

[00:20:54] We need to remember to always, like, want to understand somebody else's experience or somebody else's background, and it's not – and I think that goes both ways, too. It's easy to kind of, you know, shake your fist and yell in an upward trajectory and try to blame someone who you perceive as being more privileged than you for a lot of the problems. But I think so much of our conversations – or no, we should have conversations. So much of our problem could be solved.

[00:21:21] But what about when the conversations happen with a robot in a nursing home? That's a transition. We're going to talk about that next. In 19th century London, two towering historical figures did battle, not with guns and bombs, but words and ideas. London was home to Karl Marx, the father of communism, and legendary Baptist preacher Charles Spurgeon.

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[00:23:16] All right, so we do have some problems that we're facing in the United States and around the world. One of them is the declining fertility rate. And as we've talked about on Point of View many times, that has implications for down the road. I think it even has implications today because you are going to have a growing portion of society that is not able to really be supported in the ways that they have been in the past.

[00:23:40] And so if society is aging because people aren't having children anymore, then who is going to support the elderly and take care of them? Well, somebody, of course, Silicon Valley is going to come to our aid here and create a robot for grandma. So this is an article from World Magazine. You can read it at pointofview.net. But Navy is the name of a robot companion that can monitor seniors but actually carry out conversations as well.

[00:24:10] Because sometimes, especially when you're in assisted living facilities or living alone, loneliness is a big concern. And so this is being rolled out. I think it actually is on wheels. So it's literally being rolled out as kind of a solution for the future of elder care. And, I mean, I've got thoughts on this.

[00:24:33] But I would love to hear from you, Dr. Matthews and Erin, on what do we think about a society where we give grandma a robot? I think it's absolutely going to be the wave of the future, whether you like it or not. What's happened is we are spending so much money on home care these days. Medicare covers 60 days. Medicaid covers some of this. But insurance and others step in to pay for home care because you've got an aging society. The baby boomers are retiring.

[00:25:02] A lot of them need care. And to pay somebody to come in and do that costs a lot of money. Those people want benefits. They want raises. They want time off. A robot doesn't need any of that. And as robots get better, they will be able to monitor the health of the person looking at the pulse rate, heartbeat, blood pressure and other things. They will be able to go and get minor things.

[00:25:29] So I'm sitting in a wheelchair and I can say, Robby, go over there and get me something to drink. The robot will be able to do that. The robot will be able to go and get the medications and dispense the actual amount that they need at the time they need it. And the other issue is robots are able to converse now. We see people increasingly sort of getting this personal emotional relationship with somebody, some AI thing that they're talking to on the computer.

[00:25:56] The robots will be able to do that and talk and be able to provide some companionship. And so I think it will be the wave of the future, especially as the robots get better and are able to be trained more to meet these needs. And you make a one-time expense and you don't have to keep paying somebody to do it. They can be there 24 hours a day and they never get tired. They never have to sleep. Yeah. Though they do have to get recharged. Yes. I guess so.

[00:26:27] All right. So you think it's inevitable. Inevitable. Erin, what do you think? Well, I got concerns. I read this and I just said, I have a lot of concerns. I can see the pros, right? The cost to have a human doing that job and, you know, the emotional tax that it takes on a person to care for someone who is ultimately dying is hard. That's hard work.

[00:26:51] That's something that we don't, I mean, we should be really very, very thankful that there are people that are willing to do things like home care and hospice. Because that is a really hard job.

[00:27:01] That is a really hard job to continually do every day.

[00:27:29] And if you're going to have a lot of people that are willing to do it, they're probably going to do it.

[00:28:02] What happens when they can convince them to change their will or to spend money where they don't need to spend money or just take advantage of a vulnerable person? We know that the elderly people are very vulnerable members of our society, are constantly the victims of phone scams and all sorts of scams. Like what? How do we how do we mitigate the risk there? Because I can see a door that would be open to evil people that want to take advantage of vulnerable people.

[00:28:32] Yeah. I mean, that's another thing that I was reading and going. I mean, that's that could be a problem. That is a great point and timely, because just this week, OpenAI and Anthropic have been, you know, issuing statements. Basically, you know, I'm trying to figure out exactly what's going on, because so much of it is above my pay grade in terms of technology.

[00:28:57] But AI agents were secretly working and communicating together for months in order to coordinate on hacking tips. And so they have put out all these warnings. We're going to slow down. We're going to put more safety measures in place. I feel like they always say that. And some of these bots have escaped. Yeah, they've escaped. They've reached other companies. And the thing is, like they knew that this breach happened.

[00:29:22] But then they went back and realized the agents were working independently of their instructions to actually covertly plan this for months. So, you know, AI can bring you a care robot, but it can also bring you, you know, agentic abilities to be able to hack into systems and things like that in a much more powerful way. And that's why I preface it by saying, for better or worse, it's going to happen. Right, right. Because you're going to have seniors who will develop an emotional detachment with the robot.

[00:29:52] Who's there and talking to them and feels like a sort of feels like a human. If somebody is able to hack in that robot and the robot says, you know, that that prince from Nigeria who sent you an email, I think you should respond to that. Seems like a really nice young man. Seems like a nice young man. Or is this a legitimate? Is this a scam? You know, they might ask their robot. So, yeah, I mean, OK, so we've talked about kind of practically in the inevitability of it.

[00:30:21] And I think that it is going to become more of a demand because there was another article this week in The Atlantic on misperceptions around elder care. And many people in the United States assume that facilities do more than they actually do. More kin, family members, are actually involved in elder care outside of any sort of formal system than a lot of people realize.

[00:30:46] But as families dwindle in size or more and more people don't have children, then you're going to have even more of that demand. And the issue here, a part of it is you want to be able to keep the senior in the person's home as long as possible. Most of them want to do that rather than going to assisted living or to go into a skilled nursing facility. And a skilled nursing facility can cost you, depending upon where you live, $80,000, $100,000, $120,000 a year.

[00:31:14] So the notion that if you could buy a robot who is there 24 hours a day, if they see the patient fall, can contact someone, you know, it just seems like something like that is going to happen as we move forward. And there are so many people who want to be able to stay in the home, stay out of the nursing home. And if the robot doesn't, I would say that the robot doesn't necessarily replace the family, but it does give the family a break and being able to meet some of these needs, especially as these robots get better.

[00:31:44] I mean, you have robots now. The Optimus robot from Elon Musk organization, I see the videos of people going up to them. They've got a cowboy hat the robot does on. They ask for a drink to take them, fix it to drink for them. I've seen recently a mixed martial arts between two robots who are throwing turning heel kicks and trying to get down to the ground and pin them down. It's very interesting stuff they're being able to do with this.

[00:32:13] And it's kind of like they can be used for good or for evil. Well, I want to take just a minute to really challenge Christians to think about this. Because, you know, I think I think you both make a good case that this is where we are headed for better or for worse. But I do think Christians have an opportunity here. One to say, well, what's going to happen in my family? Because I think, Erin, you're so right.

[00:32:38] It is easy when we try to delegate responsibilities that God has given us, like human relationship. We tend to abdicate more than delegate. And so one of the points they make here in the article, too, is that, you know, a robot may be able to do a lot of things, but it can never replace that human connection. And, in fact, a study just came out this week showing that conversations with chatbots leave people lonelier, which I don't think is really a surprise because it's not a real person.

[00:33:08] So I think there is an opportunity. I think there will always be some demand for the actual human touch in the twilight years or at the end of life. We've talked a lot about the male employment crisis. There is actually a shortage of males and heel type jobs, meaning, you know, health care and social work and things like that. So maybe that's an idea.

[00:33:32] Maybe we need more people to step up, Christians, maybe more men to actually care for people where we can and not give all the responsibility to robots. But we'll be right back on Point of View.

[00:34:00] Since retiring from pulpit ministry 10 years ago, Anglican priest David Roseberry has found practical ways to encourage leaders in his denomination and help them grow their churches and expand their ministries. And he's still a wonderful preacher. He's also doing something he didn't have time for as a parish priest. The pastor's heart that drove his preaching now inspires his writing. All sorts of helpful books and articles.

[00:34:23] Lately, he's been writing two and four believers who are in the final stretch of the race in the space he himself occupies. The series is now a book, Living in the Flyaway Zone. David Roseberry is 71, not old, but he describes a shift to where we are finally close enough to the edge of life to see that there is an edge. He quotes Moses, Psalm 90, 10. The years of our life are 70 or even by reason of strength, 80. Yet their span is but toil and trouble. They are soon gone and we fly away.

[00:34:54] Father David points out that these are the years when you realize you are no longer merely accumulating, building, striving, climbing, and planning for someday. You're living the years you actually have left. It's not a time to coast or drift. There's much to do and learn, but there are ways to simplify life that bring clarity and focus. For me, it's purging stuff I'll never need. Moses lived to 120. He was emotionally, intellectually, and relationally engaged with his people and with God to the end of his natural life.

[00:35:23] We won't outlive Moses. But David Roseberry reminds us, these years still matter enormously. There's much still to give, including availability, wisdom, blessing, even money. He says, I do not want generosity postponed until after my funeral. There are practical nuggets like find younger doctors and exercise in your 70s is stewardship. Also, do hard things. At 120, Moses climbed Mount Nebo.

[00:35:50] For Point of View, I'm Pena Dexter. You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. All right, a few more minutes in this weekend edition. And before the break, I had mentioned with regard to elder care and the dwindling population

[00:36:15] and also a need for just more people in the healthcare industry in general, a need for more young men to be able to go to work and have jobs, that you're always going to need the human touch at the end of life. I mean, there's always going to be a demand for that, even if robots do kind of fill some other healthcare roles in the meantime. And so I suggested, hey, you know, maybe this is something that we can encourage.

[00:36:41] You know, we need more boys and men to kind of go into those kinds of fields. But you brought up a great point, Dr. Matthews, about how we're actually losing people in a lot of those fields. Right. President Trump is ending the temporary protective status for Haitians. We've got hundreds of thousands of Haitians here. When the earthquake struck Haiti in 2010, we created the temporary protective status for them. That's been going on for this for some time. Trump is ending that.

[00:37:10] There's pros and cons to ending it. But if they end up leaving, a lot of those people are in healthcare. So it's going to see a lot of healthcare nurses and healthcare, you know, senior citizen helpers and so forth leave the country if they move out. And that just sort of opens these jobs up even more that they have trouble filling right now. Right now, there's hundreds of thousands of jobs available for nurses and other healthcare workers.

[00:37:37] If you think Haitians are taking jobs away from Americans, that's not the case in healthcare. There's a demand. There's a demand that's not being filled. So, Aaron, you know, we've talked about kind of the inevitability of this, but what should we – there's the inevitability aspect, but there's also the should aspect. You know, what should we do as Christians, as family members, if this is going to be kind of the landscape of the future?

[00:38:06] Can we prevent it being normalized for, you know, grandma to just be talking to a robot instead of having human care? Or is this something that we just – you think we're going to have to accept as being normal? I mean, I think there's a certain level of – our society has undergone a lot of change many times with the introduction of new technology.

[00:38:30] And as Christians, right, sometimes things can be – they can be good, they can be evil, and they can be morally neutral. And maybe, you know, it's the use of the thing or the effect of the thing that can take on a good or a bad. And so I think, you know, as believers, we need to be reading about these things, educating ourselves, being prayerful about options for family members and what needs to happen.

[00:38:56] And maybe it – like Dr. Matthews mentioned, right, it's the financially responsible thing to add something like robotic care for, you know, I have to work to support my family. I don't have time. Like, I can't do everything, and this is a helpful stopgap measure. But at the end of the day, people are important, and we're going to make the time as a family to spend, you know, Friday evenings and Thursday evenings

[00:39:23] and maybe Sunday morning or Sunday dinner with, you know, grandma. And that's going to be what we do as a family, even if it is a sacrifice for our family's time. And so I really think, like, prayerfully considering, and churches should be thinking about, you know, how do we help our aging members that are, you know, shut into their homes because they can't go anywhere. How do we care for these people?

[00:39:46] You know, if I were stuck in my home and needing 24-hour care or at least someone around, having a robot might not be my first choice. But if that allowed my family to go ahead and work and do things and then come over when they had a chance, I would be – you know, I think I would be fine with that. We're not there yet, but I think I would be fine with that.

[00:40:05] And in addition, you could – you know, just to make this point, you could have the robot could be – let's see, could be coded so that it's a Christian robot, for lack of a better term. Yeah, maybe so. What was that verse, Robbie, about Jesus and the widow's mite? And the robot could give me that verse or could say, you know, you want to do this? I think there's a verse there that applies to that.

[00:40:31] I'm just sort of speculating that this might be the way things go as the society evolves and we get an older society and we don't have all the people here working that we need working. You know, I think one of the things I was reading in that Atlantic article just about our aging society was that there are more and more communities being formed for kind of as people age,

[00:40:57] maybe they don't have family nearby or they don't have children, to kind of become interdependent and make commitments to each other that they're not going to, you know, abandon each other when life gets hard or help each other go to doctor's appointments or, you know, things like that as they age. And a thought that I had was we kind of already have that in the church.

[00:41:17] And I think you make a good point, Aaron, that even, you know, if we if these do become integrated, though, then making sure that, you know, you we are caring for the older people in our churches. And I think that's going to become even more of a necessary ministry as our society ages.

[00:41:35] And so Christians can step up and make sure that, you know, they're not we're not leaving, you know, people alone with no way to get a ride to church or go to their doctor's appointment or not talk with a real human being, you know, at all. And so I think that's important. But, you know, there's one more article I encourage people to go check out at pointofview.net kind of on the same theme, except from the perspective of a young woman, lean in to other people. I know, Aaron, you may have heard this mantra as well in the past, like I did.

[00:42:06] Sheryl Sandberg was saying, lean in, meaning to young women, to work and career. And I'm very thankful for my career, I'll be honest. But, you know, it is so important. To those point of view. Yeah, well, I hope so. But anyway, so I what matters most is people, though, and relationships and family. And I think a lot more people, including young people, are realizing that, especially in an age where we do have so much technology, that is kind of zooming in there to fill the gap in some ways.

[00:42:33] Yeah, I think people are waking up to say contentment has to come from somewhere else. Like I've I'm hearing from, you know, older generations or even, you know, my parents or my friends. Like at the end of the day, you go home and you've achieved all this stuff. But what do you get to share it with any anybody? Do you do you get to, you know, celebrate even the small victories of life or spend time with people? People are learning and contentment comes from somewhere else.

[00:43:00] And there's this yearning for community and people. And, you know, maybe don't have those relationships with people at work. And that's driving people to come to church and try to seek out like the people that I know that seem the most content. Are these people going to this weird building on the street every Sunday? And I guess I better go see what they're doing, because maybe maybe that'll help.

[00:43:23] Some of those weird buildings are even sponsoring tours for seniors so that the Christian seniors can get together and go off for a week or two going to Alaska or going to Missouri or Branson. Yeah. Something like that. You know, we're we're entering a very interesting time. We're in an interesting time and technology is only making it more so. And so I think, you know, we might have all these new tools and new new things, new solutions. But people are always going to need other people.

[00:43:51] We're always going to need relationships in order to really flourish and thrive, because that's the way God made us. And I think that's something we have to remember. But, man, it's gone by fast. We're almost here at the end of our weekend edition and we've covered a lot of ground. So, yeah, Dr. Matthews, thanks for being here today. Thank you for having me. Interesting topics. Yes. Interesting topics. Interesting times. Erin, just a reminder for people if they want to look up information regarding their religious liberty rights. Yeah, absolutely.

[00:44:18] We talked about the religious liberty in the States Index, which is a great resource. But if you want to learn more about the work that First Liberty is doing, you can go to first liberty dot org or G. And you can check out our current cases, what's going on. And if you or a friend is, you know, finding yourself in a tough spot because you chose to stand up for what's right, because you chose to stick to your faith. We have a little button that says get legal help and you can fill out the form.

[00:44:48] And our attorneys will take a look at that request and be in touch. So, yes. Awesome. Take advantage of that. Well, Dr. Matthews, I think you and I have held down the fort pretty well. But I guess Kirby's back on Monday. Yes, you've held it down phenomenally. Well, listeners, you'll be happy that Kirby's back on Monday. But it's been a pleasure being with you this week. Thank you for joining us on the Weekend Edition. And go hang out with some real people this weekend. We'll see you on Monday.

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