Point of View August 31, 2026 – Hour 2 : Abortion Museum Continued

[00:00:04] Across America Live, this is Point of View. And now, Liberty McCarty. Alright, thanks for staying with us in the second hour of Point of View today. We are still talking with Dr. John Ferrer, president of abortionmuseum.org.

[00:00:30] We have been learning so much about the history of abortion, even in the ancient world, how ancient cultures and civilizations thought about the issue of abortion. And we're going to continue to go through this virtual museum together and kind of give you a taste of what information it has. It's a great resource to share with anybody of any belief coming from any background, pro-choice, pro-life to learn more about the truth.

[00:00:56] I did want to mention that we have had a comment on YouTube and this is from Lauren and she talks about the experience of being forced into an abortion. And this is so tragic. And Lauren, I'm so sorry that happened. And so I did actually want to move on to talking about abortion and women specifically. But John, can we talk about that for a minute as just the reality that unfortunately a lot of women in this nation face?

[00:01:24] And as the pro-life movement, how can we address that and try to protect women who are in that position? Well, first off, we have to over-communicate compassion for women because it's not enough to just be compassionate. And it's not even enough to just be more compassionate than the abortion choice side is.

[00:01:45] We have to over-communicate that compassion because there is an abiding bias, a faulty perspective where people assume that pro-lifers, anti-abortionists only care about the baby or we care more about the baby more than the mother. Or in their terminology would be something like you love fetuses, you don't care about people, something like that.

[00:02:12] And we have to over-communicate that no, we're actually so pro-woman that we condemn. We denounce the killing, the willful killing of 500,000 plus females in utero every year. We denounce sex-selective abortion. Now, this is if you have an elevator pitch and you want to get to the heart of the matter, one thing you can do on this issue is ask,

[00:02:37] do you believe that sex-selective abortion should remain legal in the U.S.? Ask them that. Because the abortion choice advocate tends to assume that they've got the wealth of evidence on their side favoring we are the pro-woman position.

[00:02:57] But when they're supporting abortion for any reason at all, unrestricted abortion, then they're supporting sex-selective abortion. That means if, let's say, a Chinese immigrant comes here and because of the culture that she brings with her, she may be tempted to abort any female children in utero just because they're female. Is that pro-woman?

[00:03:27] Is supporting the continued destruction of 500,000 females pro-woman? And then I didn't even mention coerced abortion. This is a dirty little secret for the abortion industry. Now, depending on how you quantify what counts as coerced, how much pressure is needed for it to count, something like, according to studies, something like 30% to 70% of abortions are coerced.

[00:03:54] That means women would not have gotten an abortion except her boyfriend threatened her, he said he'd leave her, he would abuse her. The parents said you're out of the house if you have that baby at work. They said you're fired if you get pregnant. Or friend groups just say, here, let me help you with that, and they end up pressuring and cajoling her until she ends up getting an abortion she kind of didn't want to have. Is that pro-woman?

[00:04:21] I contend that the abortion choice side has the veneer of being pro-woman and feminist. But once you peel back the euphemisms and you peel back the layers of spin and narrative, you find it's deeply antithetical to women's rights and interests ultimately.

[00:04:39] And that's why the first wave of feminism, so not 1963 with the feminine mystique and second wave feminism, not third wave feminism and punk rock and all of that new angle in the LGBT movement. I'm not talking about feminism in these later iterations, but in its first iteration in the modern era, first wave feminism, we're talking women's suffrage.

[00:05:05] We're talking about women pioneering for the rights of inheritance, the right to own their business, right to vote. We're talking very basic women's rights. That wave of feminism was anti-abortion. And I think that's consistently supporting women's interests.

[00:05:25] And after that, it kind of went off the rails in the 1960s because it was sort of captured by this utopian ideal that you could have unrestrained sex with relatively no consequences. Yeah. That myth came with, it was shipped in the vessel of the abortion pill and, I'm sorry, contraception, oral contraception.

[00:05:53] And so people believed that they could have sex in a relatively unrestrained way with very few consequences, but that didn't create equality with men. That created equality between women and perverted boys. It didn't create a dignified equality that could live up to the standards of humanitarian civilization.

[00:06:17] Because if you're going to have that kind of outcome for society, you're going to need not just freedom, you're going to need responsibility. Yes. You're going to need not just choice, you're going to need duty. And the duty not to kill innocent human beings, the duty not to prioritize my sex life, even if I have to pay with it in my children's blood. Hmm. Yeah. So good.

[00:06:42] There's a section in the virtual museum that highlights a lot of those, includes long passages from those pioneer feminists. And I am on a mission to get more people to read those and get women to read those too, because it is so true that we have our modern, you know, modern iterations of feminism have totally twisted this to make women think that they need abortion. But if you think about it, what does abortion do?

[00:07:12] Easy access to abortion. It makes coercive abortion easier. It makes it easier for men to not step up and take responsibility for communities to not support women. It makes women basically, you know, have to pretend that they can function biologically like a man in order to have equal value in society. But they're not being valued as women. Anyway, I could go on a rampage about that, but you cover it in the museum.

[00:07:41] And so, you know, just really quickly, though, we're going to go to a break and then we'll come back and we'll ask a few more questions here. But, you know, I do encourage Christians and churches to be aware of the coercive nature of abortion. And this is why I think it's so important for churches to have outreaches like Embrace Grace groups or to talk about the issue, not only to give your congregants a biblical worldview about the life issue, but to let women know that your church is a safe place.

[00:08:09] Because even in churches, women, girls, they can be coerced into having an abortion or be shamed and think that they have to. And how much better would it be for them to know that you are a safe person, that your church is a safe place to say, I need help. I don't want to have an abortion, but I need help. And so I think we need to make that part of our mission as pro-lifers. But we're talking with Dr. John Farrar about abortionmuseum.org.

[00:08:38] Check it out. When we come back, we're going to continue talking about what you can expect to find in this amazing virtual museum. We'll be right back. This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.

[00:09:06] If you've ever been listening to my commentaries for any amount of time, you're aware of the significant concerns over the way transgenderism has been promoted by physicians, hospitals, and the government. So it's not surprising the federal government issued a report critical of some of the practices with this title, Wolves in White Coats, How Doctors and Hospitals Pushed and Profited from the Fraud of Gender Medicine. Now, most government reports usually have a title that is ambiguous and benign.

[00:09:31] When I interviewed one of the authors of the report on my radio program, I began with a discussion of the title. The title was a warning to the reader that they were going to learn about the many fraudulent practices implemented by physicians and hospitals. One example is the deceptive use of diagnostic coding for reimbursement. They would use medical codes like endocrine disorder or precocious puberty to mask what they were doing to young people and get payment for gender transition.

[00:09:58] Once patients underwent such transitions, they represented lifelong revenue streams for these groups. Another part of the 64-page report is the section which provides firsthand accounts from patients and parents who were subjected to this gender medicine. This provided a human face to procedures that were promoted by much of the medical establishment, along with the federal acceptance from the Biden administration.

[00:10:21] Now, during the radio interview, we also mentioned the Cass report out of the U.K. from Dr. Hilary Cass that two years ago raised significant concerns about gender identity services for children and young people in the National Health Service. These two reports show that sanity and common sense are finally returning to this issue. I'm Kerby Anderson, and that's my point of view.

[00:10:49] Go deeper on topics like you just heard by visiting pointofview.net. That's pointofview.net. You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Right. Back for a few more minutes with Dr. John Ferrer. I think I mispronounced your name before the break, but we are just having a great conversation, and there's so much we can talk about.

[00:11:17] But I am going to try to ask a few more questions. And just, again, the takeaway for everybody listening, visitabortionmuseum.org. But we talked about the section on women and feminism. There's a faith and philosophy section. Another thing, though, that a lot of people really need to be educated on, I think, is the mixed history of abortion and race.

[00:11:44] And so there is a section that addresses this kind of really junk science movement from the past of scientific racism and how that's related to abortion and eugenics. So give us a quick little blurb about what people can expect to learn about that. Wow. So abortion ties into race and racism in many ways through eugenics.

[00:12:11] Eugenics, meaning good genes, refers to the practice of kind of culling herds so that your next generation of your herd, your cattle, is healthier or better looking or more aesthetically pleasing or whatever. And that was applied to society with the effort to create laws and policies that will regulate, restrict who is allowed to have children.

[00:12:40] Now, in the days of eugenics, this was a U.S. fashion, late 1800s, early 1900s, to such an extent that it was a political talking point. People were getting elected in part because they thought that they could introduce policies that were going to determine who's allowed to breed and who's not.

[00:13:05] And by selective breeding strategies, they could reduce crime. They could reduce imbecility. They could reduce unwanted populations. Now, hold on to that. Unwanted populations. There was, at the same time, a phenomenon called scientific racism, which, as you said, is junk science. But there are vestiges of it even today.

[00:13:31] If you go look at little cladograms and developmental images describing how the human race has evolved over the years, you'll see if you go back to the earlier iterations of what humans look like, they tend to look more African. Because that's the heritage of the scientific racism that says black people are less evolved than white people. Now, there's a lot more that goes into that.

[00:14:01] But that was the gist of it. And people latched onto it late 1800s, early 1900s, because what happened around the middle of the 1800s? That's the Civil War. You had people coming out of this horrible time where slavery was abolished. But you didn't abolish racism. You can't abolish racism. That's too impractical.

[00:14:23] So the racism abided, and folks still wanted some way to kind of recover their sense of order and status and not risk having black people rise in rank. So those unwanted populations that eugenics was trying to control, that was largely black people and, to a lesser extent, other minorities that weren't white. Now, fast forward into the 1920s, and you've got Margaret Sanger doing her stuff.

[00:14:53] And she is, by all measures, probably a Marxist, if not a soft Marxist, maybe even a hard Marxist. But that's an influence on her where she thinks society can and should control these things because there's not a God above that you have to answer to in the course of your laws and policies. And so in this effort to socially engineer a better society, she thought that meant you have to reduce your populations of black people.

[00:15:20] And so she introduced the Negro Project, which was infused with eugenics ideology and scientific racism, and it carried over into her secularism and her Marxist politic, where she thought that, yes, if we could reduce the population of black people, not necessarily get rid of all black people, but more keep them a manageable number so that we're not overrun. You don't like pets. It's fine to have one pet, but if you have 20, then you're overrun.

[00:15:49] And that's kind of the condescending brand of racism that Margaret Sanger brought to the table, and a lot like her. And so that Negro Project, as it was called, was promoted not directly from a bunch of white liberals. It was promoted through the black pastorate because the black pastor is the bishop of black communities in general, culturally speaking. And she knew that they're not going to take this message from me.

[00:16:18] That will sound like white explaining, but they will take it from their black pastors and their communities. And so she passed this sterilization, controlled breeding, eugenics ideology down to black pastors, and it carried on. Now, that was in the 1920s, 1930s. Abortion was not legal yet. Fast forward, so you get to the 60s, 70s, and abortions becoming legal.

[00:16:46] And what you have is the heritage, the racist heritage of Planned Parenthood. Margaret Sanger's the founder. The Negro Project was a Planned Parenthood project. That racist heritage continues on today, and I dare say it might be as strong as ever because the abortion rate in black communities is still three times higher than for whites.

[00:17:08] And so all they had to do was just change the marketing, and they can still get their same eugenics plans underway. And you can read all of this. You can see a video that covers this and read information about this at abortionmuseum.org. Just a side note, I noticed in the main video for this section with much of the information that you were just talking about features Petrina Mosley,

[00:17:35] who Point of View listeners will recognize as a frequent co-host of our Next Generation Roundtable. So many wonderful, wise, and knowledgeable voices that contributed to this effort. But as we wind down, John, just tell us, you know, I would love to know, have you had feedback on this or from people who maybe didn't know a lot of this or were on the fence, and they are entering this virtual museum and they're learning about it? What has been the response so far?

[00:18:05] Well, the overwhelming majority feedback we've gotten is positive. People walk into it and are just amazed. They had no idea. They didn't realize the depth and richness and complexity of that history of abortion. They were pretty much snowed by a lot of modern-day pro-choice propaganda. And you can kind of tell it's propaganda because when you peel away the rhetoric and you ask, what do you mean by that?

[00:18:35] What do you mean by that? How did you come to that conclusion? You know, Greg Kokel's tactics question. You just follow through on that and you find that there's misinformation at the core of it. Like abortion is health care. Abortion is equality for women. You have slogans rather than principles and truth on their side.

[00:18:55] And so when folks walk into this museum and they see the history and they realize that abortion was implicitly or explicitly prohibited or greatly restricted throughout all of human history up until five minutes ago, it's overwhelming to them. But I do want to take the time to give a shout-out to my team. We've got a great team that has made this possible.

[00:19:23] I couldn't do this just on my own research proclivities because I'm really just a bookish nerd at the end of the day. We've got some really talented technicians who've helped put the videos together, who helped proofread and helped do the writing, who organized the website because the museum has a companion website to it.

[00:19:42] And as far as that goes, some of the feedback has just helped us improve different exhibits and polish the user interaction with it, what it feels like to walk through the museum. And we've taken some of the feedback from some of our team because now we've got new people on the team who are already planning for new exhibits we're going to introduce. But it costs money, so we covet your prayers.

[00:20:10] We value and listen to your feedback. We take it to heart. But we also need the financial support to be able to get this in front of more people and to develop it even further. We want to add a prayer hall where you can go and you can reflect and share your stories and have people pray over you.

[00:20:30] We want to add a walk-through clinic so you can see what an abortion clinic would have looked like in 1967 before abortion was legalized and when everybody was saying, oh, women are dying of all these coat hanger abortions. We want people to see the conditions for the majority of abortions in 1967. We have other exhibits that we'd love to introduce, but, you know, we need to raise the funds to make that happen. Well, let me jump in here.

[00:20:59] It's been a great experience. That's wonderful. And we are winding down. But just thank you again, John, for your time. And I was going to mention that as well because if you want to be a part of educating more people about the topic of abortion and the truth of its history and current practice today, then this is a great cause to support. So go to abortionmuseum.org. You can also find the link at pointofview.net. Look around the virtual museum and consider supporting this amazing effort. Thank you, John, for being with us today.

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[00:23:16] All right, we just wrapped up a great interview with Dr. John Ferrer. Again, go to abortionmuseum.org or you can find the link at pointofview.net and listen to anything that you missed. One of the things we talked about with him briefly was that we are sold this lie in culture today that abortion is helpful for women, but it harms women.

[00:23:37] It is not feminist in the original meaning of that term to have easily accessible abortion because it allows men to not take up their responsibility. It allows people to act as if they have no responsibility to each other, no responsibility by men to women, no responsibility of women toward their offspring. And so that's not good for women. It's also not good for men.

[00:24:04] And this brings me back to something I was talking about before the interview in the last hour. I encourage you to check out this article that's posted at pointofview.net from Compact Magazine by Brad Wilcox and James Lynch on Republicans' embrace of the vice economy. And here is what should encourage us because we talk about the problems facing young men quite often.

[00:24:28] But if you actually look at data and you look at survey responses, even though many of them feel like they are trapped in these addictive behaviors, whether that's with things like weed, pornography, even video game consumption and use, most young men still want to get married. They value financial independence. They want to become fathers.

[00:24:51] At the same time, they also feel deeply uncertain about what manhood means today and believe that society looks at manhood negatively. So saying that you are not needed and you do not need to take responsibility for your actions, that doesn't liberate anybody. That makes people depressed. It makes people feel useless. And we are seeing that. And so this is the end really, really powerfully here. So I just want to read this quote.

[00:25:20] Conservatives have always understood that men flourish as devoted husbands, fathers, workers, citizens, churchgoers and members of their communities. And yes, if you look at data on married men, men who are involved in church, those are the healthiest, the happiest men. They are the ones that are the least problematic in terms of actual criminal activity. They're the kindest to their wives. OK, all those things. So conservatives have always understood this.

[00:25:50] But many are no longer helping young men work to achieve their desire of marriage and family by promoting the virtues that make healthy masculinity possible. Instead, they are promoting business interests that seek to profit off male misery. This isn't the way to make America great again. We're talking about, again, the big weed, so to speak. OK, the push to legalize marijuana, to decriminalize. We're talking about pornography industry.

[00:26:19] We're talking about technology being pushed in addictive ways. The betting markets. All of these things that, yeah, they can turn a profit. But are they benefiting anybody? Are they allowing our society to flourish or are they holding people down? Well, I think we know the answer to that. So you really do need a virtuous society if you want freedom. And that is what the founding fathers knew.

[00:26:40] So whether it is about abortion, whether it is about artificial intelligence and what we can do with it, how we can treat AI, so to speak. It's not about the AI's rights. It's about what it does to us as humans. All of those things matter in our conversation about maintaining a free society, because as John Adams said, if we're not a moral and religious people,

[00:27:03] if we don't have those internal checks and balances and virtues that prevent us from harming each other or harming ourselves, we can't really have a free society. Food for thought, something to talk about. But I do want to switch the conversation a little bit. But here's an article that I posted at pointofview.net from the Free Press. It's from Eric Erickson. Why no one trusts data centers and flock cameras?

[00:27:28] I think it's spot on, regardless of where you end up landing on either the data center conversation or the flock camera debate, both of which we've talked about on Point of View and will continue to do so. But we need to understand people's reactions to this, because if you look at surveys on data centers, most Americans, Democrats and Republicans, they do not like them. They do not want them in their town. We're going to dig into why.

[00:27:54] Also, similarly with flock cameras, a lot of people across the political aisle are not in favor of them. Well, President Donald Trump tweeted this out this morning. I don't think it's very helpful, but I'm going to read what he has to say, and then we'll see kind of maybe the approach we should be taking with regard to data centers.

[00:28:15] Specifically, President Trump tweeted out the only reason that communities throughout the USA should not want data centers is if they want to end up being backwards and poor. If they want to be successful and rich with far lower taxes and jobs all over the place, let the data reign. So he says, if you want to be backwards and poor, then resist data centers in your town.

[00:28:42] Regardless of the arguments for data centers in terms of the benefits, the economic benefits that they may bring to a community, I don't think that's the way to advocate for your position, Mr. President, especially with midterms right around the corner. You see a lot of Republican politicians and governors kind of backtracking on this, trying to understand where their constituents are coming from.

[00:29:07] And if we want to understand where they're coming from, we don't need to look that far in the past. Now, again, this really isn't about busting myths about water usage or the, you know, whether it's going to cause your electric bill to increase or things like that. All of those are good conversations to have. But let's look a little bit deeper here.

[00:29:27] I think what is underneath a lot of people's natural mistrust of the data centers and not wanting these huge complexes built by big tech companies in their small towns or in their rural areas, it has to do with distrust of the government. And that distrust has been well merited. So this is again from Eric Erickson. He says the same government that used pandemic powers to shutter churches and businesses now wants surveillance cameras on street corners and data centers and backyards.

[00:29:57] You can't blame people for saying no. If we need a walk down memory lane, he provides one. We talk about there were arrests in parts of the country during the pandemic because people were walking outside by themselves in places like California.

[00:30:14] You had cities that were using sand to fill in skate parks to prevent kids from playing outside, even though we had evidence that the virus didn't really spread outside the same way that it spread inside and that children were not carriers for or they were not at risk as much. You had cities bolting or unbolting basketball rims. Again, get the kids out of the park. We don't want them playing outside.

[00:30:39] You had the Los Angeles mayor told people that snitches get rewards. Meanwhile, Gavin Newsom was violating protocols by enjoying dinner out at nice restaurants. You had a lot of hypocrisy. And the thing is, at first, people, they did what they were told. They complied. They had enough trust to say, OK, two weeks to slow the spread. We'll comply. But here's the thing.

[00:31:07] Civic trust, this is a quote from Erickson here, is a limited resource in a free nation. I think we've all heard the phrase that is often applied to things like interpersonal relationships. Trust is gained in drops and it's lost in buckets. Governing authorities have lost bucketfuls of trust by the way that they have lied. They have covered up. They have abused power. Just as recently as the pandemic, people were told stay inside.

[00:31:35] They were told the vaccine is going to stop the virus. And if you disagree, then you're anti-science, your conspiracy theory. Oh, wait, we learned that it doesn't actually stop the virus. It just mitigates maybe some of the side of the effects of it. Did anybody get an apology? Did anybody say actually we were wrong? No, of course they didn't. We've talked about the Fauci cover up and the things that he knew that he wrote about in his personal diary or in private communications and then told a completely different story. To the American people.

[00:32:03] And then after people were told for months that they could not go outside, that they could not let their kids play in parks around nobody else. They couldn't even paddleboard in the ocean by themselves. All of a sudden you had protest breakout in the summer of 2020 and then it was OK. And I think people just had enough.

[00:32:24] So I am not advocating for cynicism because when you don't have trust as a society, democracy really can't function. We cannot say that, OK, we're not going to trust anything. That leads you down conspiracy theory rabbit holes where people are just willing to believe any conspiracy theory, even if it doesn't have any evidence at all.

[00:32:48] At the same time, the American people are rightly skeptical of being told things that they have no control or say in. And that is what has happened with a lot of these data center projects is that there's there's cover ups, there's NDAs. All of a sudden they find out this big project is going up. They didn't have a chance to actually talk with their city council and have a say in it. But why would they not be suspicious? Maybe we need to actually address these concerns.

[00:33:17] And if you think that this is good for the economy, President Trump, and that we really do need to beat China and build these data centers, then you need to actually make the case to the American people and acknowledge something that you have acknowledged so many times in the past, that governing authorities have lost the trust of the American people. So, of course, they're going to be skeptical about this next new thing. But when you look at Gen Z, you think the American people in general are distrustful. Wait until you see the statistics on Gen Z. We'll be right back.

[00:33:58] You're listening to Point of View, your listener supported source for truth. All right. So for the last few minutes of the show, let's continue to talk about this issue of trust. It is so important because, again, if you do not have a basic level of trust in a society, and we're going to get into different versions of what that means, then you really can't have a democracy.

[00:34:22] You have to be able to know that you are getting facts that you believe to actually be facts, to be true, not just opinions, but actual facts. And then you form your own opinion based on those facts. And then that's how people make decisions. That's how they decide what policies to support or what people to vote for. And there is a lot of distrust among Americans.

[00:34:46] I mean, at the beginning of the show, I was talking about this huge settlement that Meta is paying up to $17.1 billion to settle after so many lawsuits, accusing them of knowingly pushing products on teens that they knew were harmful for their mental health. And then they come out and say, well, actually, we can make, you know, we can switch these features on our apps to actually make it better for developing brains and less addictive.

[00:35:15] And the thing is, they knew they could have done that sooner. And so why are Americans distrustful of big tech companies? Well, gee, I don't know. I think maybe we just have to look at some of the evidence of what has happened in the last few years and what we've seen big tech do to a generation. Also, if we're talking about artificial intelligence specifically, the CEOs of these AI companies are saying things like they're going to wipe out half of the jobs or it might even lead to the end of humanity.

[00:35:43] Oh, by the way, let's build this huge complex in your small town that's going to allow this thing to keep operating. And and you people are like, wait, hold on a second. Let's talk about this a little bit more. And so if you want to talk about it and say, look, we can do this in a way that actually brings jobs to your community, that, you know, some of the myths that you're hearing about how it's going to harm the local environment are not true. We're going to make sure that we build it in a way that doesn't harm local environments. That's a real concern. Then have those conversations.

[00:36:12] I would love to see more of those conversations. Unfortunately, what I am seeing a lot of is conservatives and Republicans. Up until more recently, I think some Republicans are realizing that the midterms are breathing down their necks. And so they're changing tack a little bit. But, you know, not President Trump saying that people want to be backwards and poor if they don't support data centers in their towns. That's not the way to win friends and influence people. So I jury sell out for me personally.

[00:36:38] I want to look at the evidence in the data and see how these things are being built and how they actually are impacting communities. And I think that that's that's a reasonable request that a lot of people have. But let's talk about Gen Z. And by the way, it's not just the left that has lost a lot of trust. You have many conservatives examples as well. And so check out that article from the Free Press by Eric Erickson.

[00:37:03] It's at pointofview.net and read through that because he ends up being pro-flock camera and pro data center by the end of it, actually. So I wouldn't say I agree with all of his details and points and his conclusions. But I really do appreciate the way that he says, look, it makes sense that people are a little skeptical of these things. Now, let's consider what environment Gen Z has been raised in. And I'm talking about this because it's a little bit of a preview of what I'm covering on the Know Why podcast this week.

[00:37:32] So make sure you're subscribed to the Know Why podcast and watch for a new episode dropping on Wednesday. So this is some these are some statistics from graphs about religion, which is a sub stack blog by Ryan Burge, who he researches all kinds of things, a lot of times related to faith, culture. And so he released this study on Gen Z looking at how distrustful they are in general. So here are some numbers.

[00:38:01] The share of Gen Z members who say they can't trust others at all is 74 percent. So to say that again, 74 percent of Gen Z say they can't trust others at all. That is seven points higher than millennials generation right above them. Gen Z members who say others can be trusted is a measly 13 percent.

[00:38:27] And so if you go and you look at this whenever I posted on Wednesday on the Know Why podcast, I'll have some graphs posted as well that you can look at. It is just staggering. I mean, you have more levels of public trust with older generations and it just declines with each generation. And then Gen Z is like in a whole different plan and it's just a severe drop off. And so Ryan Burge notes as well what I just said, that if we want democracy to continue functioning, then you have to have trust.

[00:38:55] Otherwise, you can't think about higher ideas. You can't think about what you can accomplish. You are if 74 percent of young people who think that they can't trust anybody else at all, then you're constantly what is that? You're living in a state of fear, anxiety, worrying about just your basic safety and your basic rights. And that I mean, look at the anxiety levels that we have that we see with young people. And there are many contributing factors.

[00:39:22] But I don't think we can separate out this fact that we're seeing that they're so distrustful. So another side effect of this is that people then invent their own truths because if they don't have any source of authority that they feel like they can turn to, to know, well, at least I know that I'm going to get the truth from here. Then they will just start inventing their own.

[00:39:46] Dr. George Barna has done research showing that the majority of Gen Z does think that truth is relative, that there is no such thing as moral absolutes, that morality changes over time. Not a surprise when they don't trust anybody. But why? Why is Gen Z so distrustful? Well, again, think about the environment that they were raised in. I was just talking about so many examples from COVID alone. Hello. Those were formative years for Gen Z being kept out of school for, in some cases, years at a time.

[00:40:16] Seeing hypocrisy from governing authorities being the first generation to really be fully raised in the digital era where there are so many different versions of, quote unquote, reality online. So many different opinions. So many different voices. Meanwhile, religion rates are declining. So less of a biblical worldview than any generation before. Where are they supposed to find their footing? They're not anchored to a worldview. They're not anchored to a system of truth.

[00:40:45] So, again, we're generalizing here. But this is 74 percent of Gen Z who say they can't trust anyone at all. So how do we address this? Well, first of all, you have to talk about truth being a good thing that actually can be found. Because so many people are starting from the position that truth doesn't exist or it can't be found. Or that I am just going to choose a narrative or a story that resonates with me personally because all I have are my feelings.

[00:41:13] I don't have a sense of, you know, authority that I can trust or that I can go to. So we have to start with hope and say truth actually can be found. Also, let's acknowledge the feelings of anxiety that many young people face and address those by saying, guess what? If you believe in absolute truth and if you are willing to consider the worldview of the Bible, God is the creator. He is a God of order.

[00:41:41] And when you acknowledge that and you acknowledge him as the source of truth, then there is so much relief in being able to rest in the order that God provides. Because that is what a theme we see all throughout scripture of God creating order out of chaos. That is what he does. And young people today, they're living in chaos. They don't know who they can trust. And it is a very chaotic world. And so that is why building a biblical worldview is more important than ever.

[00:42:10] You know, there's an old Russian proverb that was famously repeated by Ronald Reagan. And I like to repeat it when I talk to students about journalism and things like that. It's trust, but verify. Well, how can you verify if you don't have anybody that you can trust? And so first we have to go back to the ultimate source, a foundation that we can trust, which is God's word and verify his principles and what he teaches about who we are, who other people are and who God is.

[00:42:38] And then from there, we can actually build a worldview because not trusting. What does that lead to fear? God has not given us a spirit of fear, though, but of power, love and a sound mind. He intends for us to be able to find the truth. It's not hidden, but we do have to look in the right place. So I leave you with that. Again, check out Know Why Podcast because on Wednesday I'll drop the full episode addressing Gen Z and trust. But thank you so much for being with me today on this Monday edition of Point of View. Be sure to tune in tomorrow.

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