Point of View August 30, 2024 – Hour 1 : Weekend Edition

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Hour 5, 2021, Hour 4, 2021 Hour 5, 2021

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe the last one until probably the debate.

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think she's going to be sitting down for a lot of these so-called quote unquote

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_04]: interviews.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's go around the table.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Ladies first, what are your thoughts?

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_03]: You had a chance to watch it last night.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Some people watched it.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Some people said no, I avoided it.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_03]: How can we think about what's going on?

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Well first, I was really happy to hear earlier in the day.

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Dan Abash said this herself in one of the commercials that it was going to be in its entirety.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_04]: They weren't going to edit it out.

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it was so disconcerting to watch that because it was clipped and cut.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Now if they aired the whole thing, it's possible they did, but the way it was put together

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_04]: with endless commercials in the middle and in between was amazing.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean I thought it was hard to watch anyway and it was certainly easy to sort of manipulate

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_04]: it.

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I think one true statement that she repeatedly said that we can pretty much bank on is my

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_04]: position hasn't changed.

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_04]: It hasn't changed since the ones we've been hearing quotes, tapes about.

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It was her values to say it hasn't changed.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_00]: My values haven't changed.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that was a wink to the progressive to say don't pay, listen to what I'm saying

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_00]: here, my values haven't changed.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_04]: That's why she said my position, not my position hasn't changed.

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_04]: That's changing all the time.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I would call this a do you love puppies and kittens interview because it was so soft

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'm waiting, you occasionally see me certainly with JD Vance and Donald Trump, if the media

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_00]: are asking him a question and they don't think they answered the question or they didn't

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: like the answer or something, so I thought I'd try to sidestep it.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: They'll come back and they'll hammer it again.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And Dana just didn't.

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, with this issue of my values haven't changed.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I still have my value and so forth.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's your position on some of these things.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it really was a very soft interview and that I think Dana should be ashamed of.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And one of the reasons why many people won't watch CNN anymore because they feel like

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_00]: it's just too soft on the liberals.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, again, the campaign, that's what a lot of people are saying that really you can't

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_04]: distinguish between the media outlets like CNN and the actual campaign.

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It's one in the same.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: There were so many good questions and I think you have posted the National Review

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_00]: article that has a whole list of questions there.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And I really thought this is great questions and they're focused and they're just not.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Dana just didn't do that.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It was very general and the responses were typically general as well.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But on the flip side, I have to say, you know, if you're if you're just looking

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: at this, Kamala comes off poised like she's you know, she's engaged and and and she's

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: in she's in control of herself.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she's not there's a few word sellers in that, but she didn't go

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: rambling off on all kinds of things.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So from if I'm just a regular voter out there looking at this, this looks fine.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_00]: She asked the question.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_00]: She answered it.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: She moved on and she was so I think that I think generally speaking,

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_00]: that was considered to be a help to the campaign.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_04]: She did not need Tim Walser.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_04]: He didn't help her, I don't think at all.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_04]: No.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_04]: So that was so calculation wise.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_04]: That was not a good idea.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how she didn't get any tough questions.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, it could be, could be.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_04]: But but I I was not impressed with her.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I she just it bothered me.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_04]: She acts like she knows something and she does act very poised and she looks

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_04]: very poised and professional, but she really doesn't say much of anything.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And she manages to get by doing that, which is exactly the point.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think that's why this is considered a win from from her campaign

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: standpoint is because she didn't really she didn't really outrage anybody.

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't take any serious stands.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And this whole thing of this campaign of we're not taking stands on things.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: We're not getting specific.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: We're talking in platitudes.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the platitude platform and it's working for us.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And I can't blame them if it's working for them.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, again, I think the platform was 96 pages.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But again, a lot of that was written before they were actually sure she was

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_03]: going to be the nominee.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So she can run away from that.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_03]: What about the strategy by which the other day you had Senator Tom

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Cotton on with Jonathan Carl and running through the list of what she believes

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_03]: and Jonathan Carl kept saying, no, she's changed your position on that.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And Tom Cotton simply said, no, wait a minute, you have never heard her say that.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You've only heard some anonymous staffer say that.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And in some respects, you could play that game.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And then later when she's president, she said, I never said that.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_03]: One of my staffers said that, but they were never given that authority.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_03]: That's another game that seems to be played right now.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I think so.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, when I finished watching the show on CNN last night,

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I just went looking around the Internet.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Just I want to see some reactions that might be up there.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I went to real clear politics and one of their writers put off something

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_04]: that said Kamala Harris is but a cog in the Democrats machine.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And I have never heard of this writer, but his name is Peter Zane.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_04]: J. Peter Zane, editor for Real Clear Investigations.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Arfixation on Kamala Harris knows and what she knows and believes

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_04]: is rather quaint.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_04]: It reflects a traditional view of leadership that Democrats have largely rejected

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_04]: instead of decisive figures who guide the nation.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_04]: The party is driven by untold numbers of elected officials and unelected

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_04]: bureaucrats, academics and media voices who share a left wing ideology.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's what you're saying.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_04]: The staffers can say one thing and the candidate may say another thing.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's probably somewhere in between or, you know, it can switch

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_04]: because you really haven't gotten a definitive answer.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_04]: But they're just switching.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_04]: They switched out Kamala Harris, a better, fresher, newer, younger face

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_04]: for Joe Biden. And I think it could be even the presidency could be the same.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think it'll be further to the left.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe not Joe Biden, maybe Bernie Sanders.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is she talked about how why she changed on fracking.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And she said, I think we now can go forward and hit our climate rules

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: goals, even with fracking.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But what people need to understand is you can say that you can even vote

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: for it, as she said she did.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But then the administration ties this up.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: They tell their EPA, do not let this go forward.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Bog them down in paperwork and other red tape and other things

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: so that they can't go forward.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And you can stop most of this progress, even as you say,

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: well, I'm willing to go forward with this.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, again, a lot of that gets back to the whole question of a deep state.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Do we have a government's run more by a bureaucracy and by unelected bureaucrats

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_03]: in which the bureaucrats say, I really don't even care who the president is

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_03]: because I'm going to be here more than four years or eight years.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And in some respects, this government is running right now.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_03]: People were saying, well, where's the current president?

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's on the beach in Delaware.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Where's the vice president?

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_03]: She's getting ready to do a CNN interview.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_03]: She's really not there as well.

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And the government just keeps running without him, right?

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It does because they've handed so much of the power off to the agencies

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_00]: to manage things while they're often on the beach.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to take a break and we'll come back and get some other comments.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But one of our first articles has to do with what some people said

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: might be the worst vice presidential pick since Thomas Eagleton.

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_03]: That goes back to 1972.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It turns out Rich Lowry and most of us around the table say,

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_03]: we think JD Danes has done a pretty good job.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But we'll come back and talk about that and we'll continue talking

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_03]: about the campaign right after this.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_03]: This is Viewpoints with curb Americans becoming unemployable.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_03]: In previous commentaries, I've mentioned that we have seven million men

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_03]: ages 25 to 54 who are not working and not looking for work.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Last year to coincide with Labor Day, Senator Marco Rubio issued

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_03]: a critical report on the working and nonworking men.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_03]: His research discovered that two thirds of these

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_03]: nonworking men have never married and nearly a third live with their parents.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And half of them take painkillers daily.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Stephen Malanga concludes in his essay, Unemployable,

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_03]: that a growing number of Americans aren't simply out of a job.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_03]: They're no longer fit for work.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_03]: This is due, he explains, to worsening social dysfunction,

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_03]: changing attitudes towards work and failures by the schools

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_03]: to prepare students for the labor market.

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_03]: This problem could not come at a worse time.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_03]: The surge in unappliable Americans is taking place as millions of baby boomers

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_03]: are retiring. Some of the impact has been cushioned by the steady

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_03]: rise of women entering the workforce, but that percentage reached its peak years ago.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_03]: One major reason more Americans are unemployable is drugs.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_03]: The lockdowns during the pandemic detached people from work.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It had also increased the percent of Americans using drugs.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Quest Diagnostics reported that workers tested positive for drugs

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_03]: hit a 10 year high in 2021.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Two dozen states have legalized recreational marijuana.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_03]: As I've mentioned in previous commentaries,

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_03]: workers regularly using cannabis are not only hazardous to themselves,

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_03]: but to others. Many positions go unfilled because companies cannot find

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_03]: workers who do not test positive for drugs.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Drugs are just one reason more and more Americans are now unemployable.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll talk about other reasons in future commentaries.

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[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But when we talk about the CNN interview,

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: we'd get mentioned the fact that there was a set of 25 questions

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_03]: suggested by National Review and I've seen others.

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, you got to go through all the things that were never mentioned.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Israel, Ukraine, China, Russia,

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think any of those were ever mentioned.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_03]: There's issues here about Medicare for all that I don't remember

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_03]: any conversations about.

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, there were some things about fracking or the border or whatever.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_03]: But it is amazing even in a fairly lengthy interview.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Dr. Merrill Matthews, that some of the things that Kamala Harris is best known for

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_03]: were never mentioned.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, the Trump campaign already has an ad.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you saw it where they just have her saying,

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_03]: my values haven't changed and they just have boom, boom, boom,

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_03]: done video clip after another.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Donald Trump doesn't even speak.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_03]: He just lets her talk about all the liberal views that she's held.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And you've written about this in the past, haven't you?

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I have. And one of the things that impressed isn't the right word,

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: but it isn't since impressed is when down and we throw her a softball question.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: She often turned it around in a way that made it look a positive for her.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So, for instance, talking about the border, she said, well,

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I prosecuted people coming across when I was attorney general

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and I went after the gangs and so forth.

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So you come away thinking, oh, I mean, if you're just the average viewer,

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_00]: you look at that and think, oh, well, apparently she was actually engaged

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_00]: in that as opposed to not doing anything.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But you mentioned earlier that the they're now raising the question,

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: would JD Vance be the worst vice president in history?

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And I had a piece in the hill in March of 2022.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: So about two and a half years ago with the question, the title,

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_00]: will Kamala Harris rank as one of the worst VPs in history?

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And I go through some of the things that we all knew then

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: that we don't seem to know now.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: She was headed.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: She was in charge of crisis at the border.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Her compiling her word salad speeches.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: At that time, her polling numbers are even lower than Biden's.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm reading for this.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Her staff is abandoning her this abandoning the sinking ship.

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Remember how we're using so many of her staff members right off the bat.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And then after her campaign, her initial campaign in 2019 fell apart almost immediately.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: She was the first one to step out.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_00]: So there it's almost like Kamala, I never knew you, you know.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's what we thought we have.

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And now you're presenting this and going to your point, this is you can

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_00]: present almost anybody there if you're just going to talk in platitudes

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and have smiles and talk about joy and aren't we going to be happy?

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to be mean spirited anymore.

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And she will carry on with the progressive agenda.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I would argue even more so than Joe Biden.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_04]: One of the things that took place during the program, not the interview

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_04]: last night was several times she said that we have to turn, we have to take

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_04]: a turn from the last decade, from the last 10 years.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And to her credit, Dana Bash said, well, you were there as Vice President

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_04]: for the last three and a half to four years.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But even more than that, Democrats were in control all but four of the last 10 years.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And she gave such a vague answer when she was talking about why we need to turn,

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_04]: what do we need to turn from the last 10 years.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But on day one, she's going to do that.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And again, you don't have to wait until day one, you've got it right now.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, one of the articles we've posted by Daniel Heninger is, you know,

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: don't you love soap bubbles?

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we all love soap bubbles.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_03]: But he says we inhabit a world in which many people are willing to

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_03]: believe almost anything, this level of creduity probably hasn't existed since

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_03]: humans lived in forests and thought they were cohabited with ghosts and witches.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And this idea that now we can just have this bubble and unless Donald Trump or

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_03]: JD Vance, which we'll talk about in just a minute knows how to burst it,

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: she's being seen as the centrist who is talking about joy, freedom,

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_03]: the middle class cutting red tape, actually trying to have efficiency.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Dr. Maril Matthews, you're written a whole book about that and all the rest.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And it just again sounds good.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_03]: But if you have a, have any skepticism or a little scrutiny at all,

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_03]: you've got to reject those ideas.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You do.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And you have to, Donald Trump has got to prosecute this in a, in a good way.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And I have to say, and to me it's looking a little more desperate when he

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: comes up at the last minute and says, we're going to have the

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_00]: government pay for in vitro fertilization.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And go, what?

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Where did that come from?

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't, I don't get that.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And the, and then the media asked him the question was that insurance or the

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: government will insurance if you may have insurance pay for it and then we'll

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_00]: have the government pay for it.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's just out of, you know, sort of out of pro life.

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_04]: You think that's going to appeal to pro lifers when he says other

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_04]: things that disappoint them.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It's in not every, not all pro lifers are far.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I try to either.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't think he realizes that though.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_00]: The things come out of the blue and, and that's why I say it begins to

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_00]: sound a bit desperate because you can't, it doesn't look like I'm, whereas

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_00]: she sits down, she looks like she's focused.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: She's on message.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: She's poised.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't look any of those things right now.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's, that's going to hurt him if he doesn't get that changed.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, going back to the article, the soap bubble of Kamala

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Harris' campaign.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And so Daniel Henniger is asking the question, what is going to pop

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_04]: it and can Donald Trump pop it?

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Number one or, or can JD Vance pop it?

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_04]: One of the things that could have popped it was the actual interview last night.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, if you want to go around the table, I don't think it was

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_04]: popped last night because she didn't really telegraph all of her liberal

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_04]: positions, even though she said her values haven't changed.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think she was impressive at all, but I don't think her balloon

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_04]: was popped.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I think she's just going to go on just about the same.

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it really, I don't think last night affected the election

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_04]: one way or the other.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's absolutely right because what with, if you have

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_00]: someone like Kamala, what you want to do is you want to go into this

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: and then come out without making any major mistakes.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you do, if you're already sort of rising in the polls,

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_00]: people are getting a little excited about you and it looks

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_00]: like things are moving in your direction.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it, this is, it's like sometimes when you're coming up to your

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: anniversary or something, I want to get something.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to make sure I don't make any mistakes in this.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a, you know, it's an inflection point if I make a big mistake

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_00]: and I did one time when I bought an orange vacuum cleaner for my wife.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, she had told me she wanted.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_03]: This is one, do no harm, you know?

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't make a mistake.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You want to get by and you want to get past this and do no harm.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's where she came out.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_03]: The other part about this, and I'll just set this aside afterwards,

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: is that he also points out, Daniel Heninger, about this idea

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_03]: that the media lives on new.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And right now that works for Kamala Harris because she's new.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_03]: She's kind of newly created.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: She's newly vetted.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_03]: She would be new in the sense the first woman president,

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_03]: first woman of color.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you go down this long list.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And so it's going to be hard to actually expect the media to,

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_03]: even if they were responsible.

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And as we just mentioned a minute ago, probably or not,

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_03]: they're probably in the tank and more than we've ever seen before.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_03]: But again, if you're expecting that they're going to want to move away from that,

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_03]: the newness is something that I think is giving her quite a boost right now

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_03]: in terms of some of the individuals who are thinking,

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_03]: well, maybe I will vote for her.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the one thing I think you can look at as Labor Day comes and goes

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_04]: and we start seeing more election coverage, although we've seen a lot.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if we'll see more interviews.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_04]: We will see a debate, maybe two debates.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And the those who that all of these things are targeted at

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_04]: are independents, independent voters who haven't decided yet.

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And most of the time I think about independence

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_04]: is people that don't even know what they believe.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_04]: How can they be independent?

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_04]: But right now I do understand the independence, some of them,

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_04]: because you don't really know what the campaigns either of them stand for,

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_04]: in a sense.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, with Donald Trump, at least you have what he did

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_04]: and how good of a president he was.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_04]: But right now what he's saying doesn't give you so much of an idea.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_04]: So maybe these things will coalesce.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And I just the fear factor of totalitarianism is the one thing that

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_04]: that may sinker.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Just the idea of being so authoritarian and putting things on us

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_04]: that will ruin our economy, bringing inflation up, not down.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And we start seeing that perhaps that will turn things.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But the great irony in this election is they are turning

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_00]: that on Donald Trump.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So he is the one, the media and the left.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And to say he's the autocrat, he's the one if you elect him,

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_00]: you'll have the autocrat in charge, not her.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's again this.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But when she starts talking, you start hearing it a little bit.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you it's just they've been able to turn so many things

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_00]: effectively, it's it's been a well run campaign, even if we don't like it.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_03]: One of the other things that this reminds me of is when you run

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_03]: for parliament, you know, they call an election and the election

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_03]: season is shorter.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is going to be a pretty short election season.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_03]: If this is the coming out party for Kamala Harris and that first

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_03]: debate in September takes place after some people in North Carolina

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_03]: could actually vote, you could see that this could be a very short

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_03]: election season indeed.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_03]: So let's take a break.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Haven't said much about what's going on on the other side.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And JD Vance is the next topic.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about that right after this.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It almost seems like we live in a different world from many people

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_02]: in positions of authority.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_02]: They say men can be women and women men.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_02]: People are prosecuted differently or not at all, depending on their

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_02]: politics.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Criminals are more valued and rewarded than law abiding citizens.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so overwhelming, so demoralizing.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: You feel like giving up, but we can't.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_02]: We shouldn't.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_02]: We must not.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_02]: As Winston Churchill said to Britain in the darkest days of World War

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_02]: two, never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never yield

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_02]: to force, never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_02]: enemy.

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[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And now here again is Kirby Anderson.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Back once again, Pennedexter and also Dr. Merrill Matthews.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And I might just mention that our next article is actually

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_03]: the first article.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And it was written by Rich Lowry called the Adept Mr.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Vance.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Now what they're talking about is JD Vance.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think Merrill Matthews, you were with us when Kelly

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Shackleford finally said on the air something he said off air.

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And that is when Donald Trump picked JD Vance, he said, I had

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_03]: some misgivings about him and I think I did too.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And then as I pointed out, one of the CNN analysts said

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_03]: that this may be the worst vice presidential selection since

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_03]: George McGovern picked Thomas Eagleton.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_03]: That was 1972 who actually stepped down because he'd had

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_03]: counseling, which now I don't think would be a negative.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't think it should have been at the time.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But you know there was like OK, we've got a guy here who's

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_03]: first term senator.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Remember the criticism we used to have of Barack Obama

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_03]: first term senator.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Here is an individual that is younger than two of my children

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_03]: who's never been in the national spotlight.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_03]: There are a lot of reasons why you might say, I don't

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_03]: know about this.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And basically what Rich Lowry said is, you know, apart

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_03]: from maybe the comment he made long before he's running

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_03]: for office about cat women, he has not made a misstep.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think in some respects, if you've ever done a press

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_03]: conference and Kelly Shackler was saying that, I've done a

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_03]: lot of press conferences and JD Vance is really good at

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_03]: this.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_04]: He's very good at it and he answers his questions in

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_04]: complete informational type sound bites, but they're

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_04]: not too long.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he does a great job.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I was uncomfortable at first when he was first chosen.

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I liked him because I had heard him speaking and I

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_04]: thought he knows a lot.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_04]: He's pro life.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, he's for religious liberty and all of those

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_04]: things.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But I didn't what I didn't like was one that a lot of the

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_04]: things that he wanted were big government solutions.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_04]: They were, you know, they were transferring money from

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_04]: the government that we don't have.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And then the other part of it was just, I don't know,

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_04]: just some of the ideas about immoral issues.

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he was very much pro life.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_04]: But then he started to pull back on that and say, well,

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm for or I'm not going to stand against chemical

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: abortions.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's where 60% of the abortions are now today.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_04]: So that kind of, but I think overall number one, these

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_04]: are people that we can lobby and talk to and they do

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_04]: they are getting elected.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, they're out there on the campaign trail trying

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_04]: to get elected in this country.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_04]: But so I would say overall, he's a wonderful candidate

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_04]: and that we can vote for that and then work on their

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: position sometimes.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's interesting because you've got common

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_00]: heresies 59 and the media are just tripping over

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: themselves talking about how we got this new fresh

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: face out here.

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's JD who's I think 39 is not 40.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, a new fresh face.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And they don't you hear nothing about that.

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And it reminds me of when Michelle Obama was in the

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_00]: White House, how the media kept saying, oh, look at

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_00]: the new dress she's wearing.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_00]: She's so beautiful.

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_00]: She's so poised and so forth.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Melania comes in who's very beautiful, very poised

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: and you never hear anything.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: If anything, they would criticize her for being

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_00]: overdressed or having to two nights of clothes on.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's you just can't trust much of what the

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_00]: media to be sort of independent and try to step

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_00]: back and analyze these things from a sort of a

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_00]: neutral perspective.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, again, I'm impressed by the fact that on many

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_03]: occasions and they talk about it here, doing sit

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_03]: down interviews with hostile news outlets.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_03]: One of the things you know if you walk into MSNBC, CNN

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_03]: or a variety of other venues is they're going to

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_03]: really ask you tough questions.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And he doesn't back away from that.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_03]: By contrast, look at Kamala Harris and Tim Wals.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, they don't really want Tim Wals to

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_03]: be out there doing any kind of interviews for fear

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_03]: that he will represent a policy that Kamala has

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_03]: changed with in the last 24 hours.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And so that's a problem.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, I've seen him in numerous interviews

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_03]: where somebody will really come at him pretty

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_03]: hard and he will as always challenge first of

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_03]: all the premise of their question because

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_03]: oftentimes it's very biased, very loaded, handles

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_03]: it very well, does not raise his voice, tries to

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_03]: make some cases for the argument that he has.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And really, as some people have said, pound for

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_03]: pound, he's the most open and accessible of the

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_03]: national candidates, which I think is very

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_03]: impressive in whatever happens with the Trump

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Vance ticket.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I think there is really a future for Senator

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_03]: J.D.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Vance.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_04]: This article points out something that I think

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_04]: is very true and that is J.D.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Vance knows what he thinks.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_04]: He knows what he believes and that's part of why

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_04]: he's coming off so well out there on the

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_04]: campaign trail because the ideas flow out of him

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_04]: because they're what he believes.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And I got to interview him back right after he

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_04]: wrote the Hillbilly Elegy.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I remember you were the first one to point

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_03]: us out to that.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_04]: He grew up in this area and the people that

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_04]: he speaks of and represents, even though

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_04]: he's very wealthy and accomplished, are the

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_04]: people the Democrat Party used to target as

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_04]: their constituents and the Republicans were

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_04]: seen as more of the country club, a party of

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_04]: business.

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And all those, all those chess people are

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_04]: they're switching around.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It's all moving around realignment and

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_04]: there's a realignment.

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, we who have been in

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_04]: politics for a long time and watching it for

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_04]: a long time, I think we need to sit back

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_04]: and look at the whole picture a little

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_04]: more because some of it is changing.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they also talk about his self

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_03]: assurance and this is a fine line.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Dr. Merrill Matthews between self assurance

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_03]: and arrogance.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_03]: There have been a lot of people, both

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Democrats and Republicans that said, you

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_03]: know, there's a sense of arrogance used to

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_03]: get from Barack Obama.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm the smartest guy in the room.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure that was true, but he thought

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_03]: so and that was the case.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And there are some people obviously you

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_03]: don't go into politics with a small ego.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_03]: You obviously have a big ego.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_03]: You're probably somewhat of a narcissist

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_03]: assistant, the rest.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But there is a sense in which so far you

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_03]: watched J. D. Vance, even though he has a

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yale degree, which apparently is now

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_03]: a liability according to Tim Walsh.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you pick that up in the campaign?

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's odd.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_03]: That is really odd.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But nevertheless, as an individual that

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_03]: has self assurance, but it doesn't

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_03]: really seem to come off as arrogance.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that explains why originally

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_03]: when people heard about him, they

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_03]: may be only heard the negatives and

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_03]: maybe over time he will help.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_03]: We recognize that vice presidents don't

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: help kid tickets too much as long as

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_03]: they don't hurt him.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think in this case, you might

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_03]: actually provide a help.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_03]: What's your thought?

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's he does a very good job on

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_00]: that and in arguably a better job than

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump because the point what any

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: campaign will tell you if we want our

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_00]: we want our candidates to stay focused

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_00]: and on message answer questions.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes answer the questions you want

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_00]: to answer rather than the way

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_00]: what the media actually tells you.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And then make sure you get past this

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_00]: without creating any real damage

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and occasionally do something really

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: well.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's that's not Donald Trump

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and it is JD.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And so far it's been common sense.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_00]: She's taken the taking the presidential

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: nomination.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_00]: She's been very focused and on target

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and not wandering off in all kinds

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_00]: of ways because that creates problems

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_00]: for you.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_04]: One of the things I love about JD

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Vance is his emphasis on the family.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know he came from a background

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_04]: where his family was broken and he

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_04]: had to deal with a lot of that.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And then it was just beautiful when

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_04]: he introduced his mother who had had

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_04]: so many problems with drugs and

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_04]: it's 10 years free now.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know then you could the

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_04]: story comes through that he lived

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_04]: with that as a child.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And so you know he's very

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_04]: interested in I think encouraging

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_04]: strong families, families to stay

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_04]: together, people to have children.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is not the world we're in

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_04]: right now.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_04]: The problem that you just mentioned

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_04]: that you mentioned earlier about

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_04]: not being able to get good employees

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_04]: to do jobs that are there

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_04]: that can be solved.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_04]: One of the solutions is for people

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_04]: just to have more children and raise

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_04]: them well.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So that is such a positive.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Now do people recognize that that's

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_04]: a good quality in a candidate?

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Well those on the right do.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_04]: But those independent voters, you

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_04]: know I don't know how much they

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_04]: they think about that type of thing.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_04]: But that is a true solution for many

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_04]: of the problems that face us.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know the discussion was had

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_00]: about Trump reaching out in advance,

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_00]: reaching out to other people, people

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_00]: that the Republicans haven't

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_00]: typically reached out to.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And I believe Trump went to the

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_00]: NAACP wasn't it and sat down with

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_00]: him.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Black journalists take NAACP in

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_03]: number places.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's very important

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_00]: to do that.

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I would be very surprised if we see

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris go to the NRA.

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not a chance.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Go to the National Association of

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Religious Broadcasters.

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Some of these groups I would be

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_00]: surprised if she were to show up

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_00]: at just because they might ask

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_00]: questions that would be hard for

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: her to answer.

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Well and again there are not too

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_03]: many Republicans that are willing

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_03]: to go on to enemy territory.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Jack Kemp tried to do that

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_03]: sometimes better or worse than

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_03]: JD Vance seems to be and again

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Paul does that.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Rand Paul certainly has done

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_03]: that.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And if you think about that

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_03]: there have been some vice

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_03]: presidential candidates whether

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_03]: it's Jair Lin for O'Rourke or

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_03]: whether it was a variety of

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_03]: other individuals in the

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Republican side even Sarah

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Palin that probably didn't help

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_03]: much.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I think in some respects he

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_03]: might actually help the Trump

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_03]: ticket.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_03]: If we're no other reason then

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_03]: he is focused and as we pointed

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_03]: out that isn't necessarily what

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_03]: you always expect from Donald

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Trump.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: But when we come back a very

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_03]: good piece by Dr. Omero

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Matthews about freedom.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_03]: That was a word we heard a

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_03]: lot at the Democratic National

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Convention and he's asking I

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_03]: think a good question.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, freedom to do what?

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Or freedom not to do something.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And we'll talk about that with

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Dr. Matthews right after this.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Part of sanctuary cities.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_04]: These are municipalities that

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_04]: refuse to cooperate with the

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_04]: federal government in enforcing

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_04]: immigration law.

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_04]: That's providing a sanctuary or

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_04]: safe haven for illegal aliens

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_04]: helping them to break U.S.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_04]: law.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Now a California coastal town

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_04]: has declared itself a

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_04]: sanctuary city for parental

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_04]: rights.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Huntington Beach is a great

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_04]: surfing spot in Wallet Hubs

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Pole of best places to raise

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_04]: a family.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_04]: It ranks number 10.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_04]: The city's school district is

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_04]: highly rated.

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Huntington Beach Mayor Gracie

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Vandermark is hoping to keep

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_04]: it that way.

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_04]: She has introduced an ordinance

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_04]: to make Huntington Beach a

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_04]: parents right to know city.

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_04]: She wants to protect parents

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_04]: rights to be informed when

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_04]: their child is going through a

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_04]: gender transition.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Mayor Vandermark told the

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Daily Signal California is one

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_04]: of the most dangerous states

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_04]: to raise a child.

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_04]: This summer Governor Gavin

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Newsom signed AB 1955, which

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_04]: prevents school districts from

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_04]: enforcing any policy that

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_04]: requires schools to disclose

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_04]: information related to a

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_04]: student's sexual orientation,

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_04]: gender identity or gender

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_04]: expression without the

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_04]: pupil's consent.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_04]: AB 1955 requires schools to

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_04]: conceal gender transitions from

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_04]: parents overriding school board

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_04]: policies that mandate

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_04]: transparency.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Some school boards have

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_04]: complied by enacting policies

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_04]: forbidding transparency.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_04]: In Northern California, the

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Chico Unified School Board's

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_04]: parental secrecy policy

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_04]: requires schools to socially

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_04]: transition students upon

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_04]: their request and states that

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_04]: school staff should not reveal

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_04]: a transgender student's

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_04]: gender identity to parents.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_04]: A lawsuit against this policy

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_04]: is pending at the 9th U.S.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Circuit Court of Appeals.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_04]: State law currently violates

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_04]: parents constitutional rights

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_04]: by giving perfect strangers

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_04]: discretion to facilitate a

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_04]: child's gender transition.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Huntington Beach's Mayor hopes

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_04]: that her right to no

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_04]: ordinance will pave the way

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_04]: for parents to sue the state

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_04]: to overturn AB 1955.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_04]: May God raise up courageous

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_04]: parents to oppose this arrogant

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_04]: godless government.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_04]: For Point of View, I'm

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Penodexter.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: You're listening to Point of

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_02]: View, your listener-supported

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_02]: source for truth.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Back once again, one of the

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_03]: articles we've posted here is

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_03]: by Dr. Merrill Matthews

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_03]: and you can find it at The

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Hill, which is a great

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_03]: place to go for information

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_03]: on all sorts of issues.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But this one, for Democrats,

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_03]: freedom is just another word

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_03]: for mandate.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_03]: All through the Democratic

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_03]: National Convention, Dr.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Matthews, we heard the word

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_03]: freedom, but you start digging

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_03]: in and begin to help us

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_03]: understand a little bit more

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_03]: about what that means and even

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_03]: where the idea of freedom came

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_03]: from.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, back in the January,

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_00]: actually December 31st I think

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_00]: it was this year, the Wall

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Street Journal of last year

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_00]: carried a story.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And the Democrats had had a

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_00]: fairly good run with abortion

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_00]: when abortion was on a state

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_00]: ballot somewhere and they were

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_00]: winning those things.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And the reporter from the

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Wall Street Journal was

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_00]: talking to some of the

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Democratic status strategies

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and they said, well, what we

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_00]: found out is the way we

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_00]: talked about this in the past

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_00]: using terms like pro-choice,

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_00]: that just wasn't selling.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_00]: What we found from our

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_00]: marketing was that the term

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_00]: freedom sells and it even

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_00]: reaches out to people that

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_00]: don't normally talk to

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_00]: or are that interested

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_00]: seniors and others.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So we have changed to the

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_00]: term freedom so we use a

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_00]: term like freedom of choice

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and use freedom in various

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_00]: things and it worked really

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_00]: well for us.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a marketing strategy

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_00]: and so you could tell it

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: was going to come into the

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_00]: convention and it did

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: heavily.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean they couldn't get

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_00]: through a speech without two

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_00]: or three references to

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: freedom, but it is all

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_00]: because it's not because

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: they've changed anything.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a marketing strategy,

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_00]: a way to present their ideas.

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And I raise a question was

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_00]: that if freedom is the big

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_00]: issue here, am I free not

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_00]: to have health insurance?

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: No, Barack Obama.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Barack Obama decided I had

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: to have health insurance

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_00]: and that that law is still

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_00]: on the books.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_00]: They zeroed out the penalty

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_00]: so I'm not penalized

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: if I don't have health

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: insurance.

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Am I free not to get a

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_00]: vaccine, COVID-19 vaccine

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: shot?

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, if you work for

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_00]: the government, if you work

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_00]: for if you're a contractor

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_00]: for the government,

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_00]: if you're in the military,

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_00]: if you were the hospital

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_00]: that took public funds,

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_00]: if you are, if you were

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_00]: worked for an employer who

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_00]: had more than 100 employees

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: now the Supreme Court weighed

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: in on some of these things.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But essentially they wanted

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_00]: to mandate the vaccine

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_00]: for everyone.

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_00]: As I say in there, I got

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_00]: the vaccine, I got the booster.

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I was happy to do that.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a different

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_00]: question as to whether or

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_00]: not we have the freedom

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: to make that decision.

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's a number of things

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_00]: out there just the issue of do

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I have the freedom to do this

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_00]: or that and they're going to

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_00]: step up and say, no, you don't

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_00]: have the freedom of EVs.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Am I going to in the near

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_00]: future am I going to have the

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: freedom to go out and buy a

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_00]: new fossil fuel car?

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And most some of the states

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and the new green green

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_00]: new dealers are pushing us so

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: that we don't have that

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: freedom.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And again, you've got some

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_03]: other ones here, you know,

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_03]: my free not to send my kids

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_03]: to the public school and

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_03]: church and all sorts of other

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_03]: issues, right?

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, do I have the freedom if

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a girl or a young lady to

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_04]: compete in sports only against

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_04]: biological females?

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, the Biden

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_04]: administration rewrote Title

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_04]: nine.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_04]: In order to redefine sex's

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_04]: gender identity, which that's

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_04]: being pushed back and there's

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_04]: lawsuits and all that.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_04]: But schools started and I

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_04]: wrote a commentary that will

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_04]: come out next week about

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_04]: this.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Half the half the states just

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_04]: about in half the state school

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_04]: is starting where they actually

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_04]: have to comply with that

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_04]: directive from the Biden

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_04]: administration, they have to

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_04]: allow all facilities to be

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_04]: open up to gender.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, how do you how do

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_04]: you see yourself today?

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, they deny

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_04]: that this will affect women's

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_04]: sports teams.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But the way the language is

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_04]: it will absolutely will

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_04]: affect women's sports team.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_04]: So those are these are

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_04]: lawsuits are pending now.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Many, many states have sued

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_04]: the federal government against

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_04]: this. So we'll see what happens.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_04]: But that's a freedom issue.

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And I, you know, I think that

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_04]: term reproductive freedom,

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_04]: that's been coming along for a

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_04]: while.

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think what happened was

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_04]: there was just this

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_04]: realization once the Dove's

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_04]: decision came down.

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_04]: In my state, because of the

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_04]: laws here, if I needed an

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_04]: abortion, I couldn't get one.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And so they really picked up

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_04]: on that emotion with the idea

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_04]: you've lost your freedom to get

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_04]: an abortion.

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's very sad that

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_04]: that's the case.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think that was

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_04]: that emotion caused all those

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_04]: referendums to go the wrong

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_04]: way, the very pro-abortion way.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And there's more of those to

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_04]: come.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, a couple of others I

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_03]: mentioned that.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Am I free not to send my

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_03]: children to the public school

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_03]: or governments choosing?

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, you very rarely

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_03]: hear school choice mentioned

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_03]: at the Democratic National

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Convention or when you do,

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_03]: it's always in the negative.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But, Penny, your commentary

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_03]: last week, you weren't here, but

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_03]: we talked about your school

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_03]: choice commentary.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And then another one, am I free

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_03]: to go to church or synagogue

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_03]: during the pandemic?

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, at least the governor of

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_03]: the state of Minnesota, Tim

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Waltz and the governor of

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_03]: California.

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I might be able to go

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_00]: to a liquor store in Minnesota,

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_00]: but I couldn't go to church.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And so again, if indeed

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_03]: freedom is an issue,

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_03]: we talk about freedom all the

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_03]: time.

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_03]: We talk about religious liberty.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_03]: We talk about freedom, the

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_03]: freedom to actually make wise

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_03]: choices, not freedom to choose

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_03]: abortion, but many other choices.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's amazing how this word

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_03]: has been co-opted.

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a joke going around that

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_03]: every time Donald Trump opens

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_03]: up his laptop, he actually puts

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_03]: a trapper keeper over it.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Remember, he used to do that so

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_03]: the kids next to you couldn't

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_03]: read off of your laptop?

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Because it seems like lately

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_03]: but Kamala Harris has been

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_03]: borrowing terms like freedom

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_03]: and no taxing of those tips

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_03]: and a variety of others that were

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_03]: actually first suggested by

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Donald Trump.

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, when you think about

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_04]: freedom, freedom only works

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_04]: if you have some sort

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_04]: of a something that brings

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_04]: order to the society,

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_04]: whether it be your moral values

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_04]: that you all agree on or most

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_04]: of you agree on, whether it

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_04]: be religion, you know, whether

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_04]: it be people's respect for

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_04]: governments, those things.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_04]: If you don't have those things,

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_04]: then you have anarchy and chaos.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, I just think

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_04]: of the issue of the trans agenda,

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_04]: for instance, because we've got

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_04]: all different states with

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_04]: different policies on that.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Some states like Minnesota and

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_04]: California where kids could go

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_04]: there and they could get the

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_04]: life altering body, altering

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_04]: surgery and their parents don't

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_04]: get to have anything to say

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_04]: about it.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_04]: So is that kind of freedom a

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_04]: good kind of freedom?

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's a bad freedom and

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_04]: it's actually not freedom for

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_04]: their parents.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_03]: We had a caller yesterday

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_03]: saying that he thought really

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_03]: this is a battle of worldviews.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_03]: This is an election about

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_03]: worldviews and I he went

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_03]: through some of this about

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_03]: the idea of freedom because

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_03]: freedom is based on the idea

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_03]: that we're created in God's

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_03]: image and that we have an

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_03]: alienable rights.

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I said, well, I hope

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_03]: you'll be listening today to

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Dr. Merrill Matthews, because

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_03]: if you think about this,

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_03]: freedom actually means

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_03]: something very different if you

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_03]: believe that those are

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_03]: unalienable rights and

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_03]: freedom is very different when

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_03]: you say no, the government

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_03]: will decide which freedoms

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_03]: you have.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I point out

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_00]: that Americans are very

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_00]: that they're very proud of

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_00]: their constitutional and God

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_00]: given rights and freedoms.

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you if you co-op the

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_00]: word and start using it in

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_00]: ways that has never been

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_00]: used before, then you

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_00]: you're tying into that and

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_00]: you're picking up on it.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, it is a

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_00]: marketing strategy.

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a ploy.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, again, we can quote

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_03]: George Orwell.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_03]: 1984, we can call it.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we talk about New

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Speak.

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_03]: We can talk about post

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_03]: modernism.

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_03]: They're all sorts of different

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_03]: ways.

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think this piece, which

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I would commend to many of

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_03]: our listeners, helps you

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_03]: understand that if you're

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_03]: talking to someone who says,

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_03]: well, I believe in freedom.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, am I really free to

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_03]: not have health insurance?

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Am I really free not to get

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_03]: vaccinated?

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Am I really free to not drive

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_03]: an electric vehicle?

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Am I really not free to

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_03]: actually have a school choice

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_03]: or am I not free to go to

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_03]: church or synagogue?

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Am I not free as a girl to

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_03]: actually compete with other

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_03]: girls?

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Freedom has been redefined.

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think this is a very

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_03]: good piece by Dr. Merrill

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Matthews.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_03]: So let me commend that to you.

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_03]: As you go there, you'll also

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_03]: find that we have our

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_03]: election central.

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And if you go there, you

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_03]: will see that the two most

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_03]: recent articles are the

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Democratic National Platform

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_03]: and the Republican National

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Platform.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_03]: In case you want to do a

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_03]: comparison, we also have

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_03]: voter guides, fact checks

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_03]: all sorts of other resources

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_03]: so that we are equipping you.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You probably already have made

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_03]: up your mind, but you know

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_03]: some individuals that may not

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_03]: even be registered to vote or

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_03]: a registered vote and may not

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_03]: vote.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And you need to get some of

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_03]: that material to them as

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_03]: quickly as possible.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be a short

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_03]: election and it'll be around

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_03]: here in no time.

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be right back.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_02]: The Bible tells us not

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_02]: to worry.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And yet there is a lot of

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_02]: worrying stuff in our world

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_02]: today.

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Thankfully the Bible doesn't

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_02]: stop at telling us not to

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_02]: worry.

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_02]: God gives us a next step.

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He says we need to pray.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But sometimes even knowing

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