Point of View August 29, 2024 – Hour 1 : The Numbers Don’t Lie, Except When They Do

[00:00:01] [SPEAKER_01]: The Thursday edition of Point of View and we're going to spend some time today kind of looking

[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_00]: at the campaign and a variety of other issues out there.

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And of course tonight we will be able to watch the first interview with Kamala Harris and

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Walsh.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: That is being taped and we'll be airing tonight.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll get some perspective on that as well.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But also throughout the program today, I want to try to bring some facts and information

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_00]: that has not been well covered by the mainstream press.

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And so certainly one way to get into this is to take a very good piece that Robert Knight

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_00]: has written recently, a new way forward one lie at a time and maybe document some of that.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Robert Knight of course is no stranger to the listeners of Point of View.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_00]: He is an author and regular weekly columnist for the Washington Times, individual that

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_00]: graduated both with a bachelor's and master's degree from American University, former news

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_00]: editor with the Los Angeles Times, also a media fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: University and worked with many other Christian organizations.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So Robert Knight, welcome back to Point of View.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Always good to be on with you Kirby.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Well I know that you wrote this right after the Democratic National Convention and of course

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_00]: we've moved past that but I thought it would be helpful to recognize as we tried

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: to do in this roundtable discussion and we'll do more of it tomorrow with Dr. Murrell Matthews

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and Penn and Dexter to point out that often times statements are made during a campaign.

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_00]: We recognize that.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a great deal of lying in hyperbole and all sorts of other things but if the mainstream

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: press doesn't cover it or there aren't any good fact checks and more and more the

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_00]: fact checkers need to be fact checked, that is the case.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So the piece that you started out with reminded us that we had comments being made by the Democratic

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: presidential nominee Kamala Harris that Donald Trump wants to cut Social Security and Medicare.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_00]: He obviously does not and has made very strong statements about that.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Has been weak on border enforcement.

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I was hard to even take that one seriously and is the one that sent an armed mob,

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_00]: meaning they had guns, I don't think so, to the Capitol on January 6th.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_00]: The list goes on for quite some time but it's a good illustration of the fact that just because

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: you hear it said on television or see it in an ad doesn't necessarily make it true.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the things you mentioned Kirby are all the lies they told about President Trump

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_02]: but they also told lies about Kamala Harris and her real policies over the years.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_02]: They've been hard left.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_02]: She was the hardest left senator even to the left is Senator Bernie Sanders who is a

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_02]: vowed socialist by several accounts.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think the way she's trying to do a 180 on these issues is stunning

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm not surprised the media aren't holding her accountable but the border

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_02]: issue in particular, she actually said she's tougher on the borders than President Trump was

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: she's now for fracking, she's been talking about how she's all for that now and

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_02]: there are clips of her saying you know we're going to get rid of fracking once and for all,

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: we're going to get rid of it.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_02]: How she can live that down, well I'd say it's anybody's guess except the answer is that the

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_02]: media aren't holding her accountable.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: She also said she's going to have economic policies that benefit the middle class.

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Well if you're middle class or working class you're getting hammered by the

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Biden-Harris policies that have brought ruinous inflation.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean I just went to McDonald's the other day and I couldn't believe how much it cost.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I bought three sandwiches and it was like 15 bucks.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought surely people see this that the economy isn't rosy as she

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_02]: is fond of saying and then finally so you can ask another question Kirby,

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's amazing that she's proclaiming a new way forward and she and Biden have been in

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: charge for the last three and a half years. A new way forward from what? Her own policies?

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah again the word forward of course has a Marxist tone, the idea of being unburdened

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_00]: by the past. I have actually had to read Karl Marx when I was in graduate school and I

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_00]: remember that phrase that we should be unburdened from the past and of course most Americans probably

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_00]: don't know but maybe they'll discover as time goes on that she had a father who was a Marxist

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_00]: professor at Stanford. And so these ideas certainly do have a root to them and I again we will see

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: what happens tonight. The editors, the national review came up with 25 questions that really

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: should be asked of Kamala Harris and Tim Walsh. Will tomorrow kind of do an estimate on whether

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_00]: not even five or ten of those were asked and I suspect they were not but nevertheless you have

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_00]: also the problem that you illustrated just a minute ago and that is she said one thing but

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: now they say she doesn't believe that but I was thinking about this interview that Tom Cotton,

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Senator Tom Cotton did with Jonathan Karl where he would make those statements

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: and then Jonathan Karl would say no she's changed her mind on that and Tom Cotton wisely pointed out

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: that well she hasn't said that, she hasn't sat down for an interview number one and number two

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: she's had that from some anonymous staffer which you've been in the political realm enough

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Robert to know that she could later on then say well that was somebody in my staff but I

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_00]: didn't really believe that so you can kind of play the game both ways and if the press

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: refuses to ask questions or if indeed Kamala Harris and Tim Walsh refuse to do more than one or two

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: interviews it's hard to really clarify some of that isn't it? Yeah and you mentioned that the

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: interview tonight is taped. That means they can edit out any gaps any mistakes they make

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_02]: it'll be a perfectly orchestrated performance like the January 6th hearings on Capitol Hill

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_02]: they brought in a TV producer to do it they used edited footage I mean this is like a Soviet

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_02]: show trial and this is how they operate they can't have a freewheeling open discussion because

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_02]: there are too many embarrassing questions she has to pretend to be a moderate Democrat and

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_02]: she's anything but same with Tim Walsh the vice presidential candidate who's governor of Minnesota

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean he presided over the horrible riots that sprung out of the George Floyd death

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and let it go for a couple days in Minneapolis while the city burned down including a police

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: station and yet and he exaggerated his military service in the National Guard

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_02]: and he did serve as faculty advisor for the Gay Straight Alliance in a school in which he taught

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the media are going to explore any of those issues because then people will realize

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_02]: wait a minute this guy isn't the moderate Andy Griffith type that they're presenting us

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and he gave a great speech at the Democratic Convention coming across as a vuncular and

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_02]: folksy and you know kind of America's uncle but he's a hardcore leftist and some of us were surprised

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_02]: when Kamala Harris or whoever's handling Kamala Harris decided he would be the candidate because

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_02]: he doesn't add a thing to the ticket they're both way over on the left side of the spectrum

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: well again I'm going to a break we'll talk about this after the break but

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_00]: that's when you had people like Van Jones and others raising some questions about that and

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe when we come back we might even talk about the number of individuals whether it's Mark Penn

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: or even more recently John Stewart making fun of the Democratic National Convention they all

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: recognize that if they want to have any semblance of credibility even if they're Democrats even

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_00]: if they're going to vote for Kamala Harris they are pointing out some of the kinds of things

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: you've been pointing out but we'll talk about that right after these important messages

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_01]: this is viewpoints with Kirby Anderson

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_00]: James Lindsay knows what the next big woke trend will be because he knows how the left thinks

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: he calls it critical immigration theory which is not to be confused with critical race theory

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: he says that critical theory is so flexible that you can stick any word between critical and

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_00]: theory and you have a new way of seeing the world for example critical colonial theory argues

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: that colonial exploitation by Europeans allowed them to get rich by taking advantage of weaker

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: countries in other parts of the world when critical theory is applied to mass illegal immigration

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_00]: it uses a human rights perspective by talking about having compassion for the poor and oppressed

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: people of the world he warns that what it is really about is targeting national citizenship

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and national sovereignty using mass illegal immigration as a wedge he observes that

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: we're already hearing some of the language changing from the mainstream media the descriptions have

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_00]: migrated from illegal aliens to illegal immigrants to undocumented migrants to just migrants

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_00]: he predicts that what comes next will be no adjective at all in other words people who

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_00]: enter the united states illegally are just as american as any american citizen he then provides

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: several examples illustrating his prediction and then concludes by explaining that the

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_00]: goal isn't merely to water down the idea of national citizenship the real goal is to eliminate it

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_00]: instead we'll be hearing about global citizenship that allows migration from anywhere to anywhere

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_00]: as a human right this will be a world where borders are just meaningless lines on a map

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: you know we need to be ready for the next political trend based on the plight of migrants

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_00]: and illegal immigration i'm kirby anderson and that's my point of view

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[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: for truth everyone's again continue your conversation with robert night we of course have one of

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_00]: his columns a new way forward and of course a link to his website so you can read any of

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_00]: if you aren't already subscribing let me encourage you to do so or maybe even

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: consider getting a subscription to the washington times what a great resource that you can have

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_00]: but let me come back to that for just a minute because you know you're in trouble

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: when your friends are oftentimes criticizing you as much as your enemies you know when

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: you end the dnc the democratic national convention and john steward best known for the daily show

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: spend some time first of all showing a clip of bernie sanders railing against a billionaire

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and then shows a clip of a billionaire actually speaking at the convention or talks about

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_00]: comal harris going after sexual predators and then showing a picture of bill clinton

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: who by the way at one point as you point out claimed that he was still younger than

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_00]: donald trump okay technically yes donald trump was born in june in 1946 clinton was born

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: in august in 1946 two months difference but the kind of attack that's coming there or

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: mark penn who again has worked with the democrats and i mentioned van jones again for people not

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_00]: knowing who these are these are people that have worked in the clinton administration

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_00]: these people have worked on the obama administration and yet they are starting to see

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: so many things being said and done that if they want to keep any kind of respectability

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: they're actually starting to speak out against some of the things that are happening

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: and of course for some time you know robert that we've had all sorts of individuals like jonathan

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: turley uh who again is a democrat but also a professor george washington university and

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: a variety of others that have been for some time saying the press hasn't been doing their job

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: it's not covering these issues and there are some really serious concerns that we should

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: have that isn't being pointed out by the press and so in some respects we're back to

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of the issue of media malfeasance or media if you will miscalculation or malpractice what's

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_02]: your thoughts yeah i think these folks who are on the far left not not jonathan turley

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_02]: certainly he's a moderate uh but the other ones van jones he was a marxist self-proclaimed

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_02]: marxist right they're doing damage control they know that uh that the lies aren't sustainable

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and that kamala harris and tim welts's radical records are going to come out uh even a really

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_02]: bad messenger could could make a lot out of their years long records so they should probably

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_02]: stop lying about them and be who they are uh i'm afraid for their sake um either way i think

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: they're in trouble because they're so radical they're out of step on all the issues that matter

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_02]: over the americans border enforcement and ruinous inflation uh even foreign policy i mean they're

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_02]: she's out there defending the afghanistan withdrawal i know um she actually said it was

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_02]: a courageous and right decision the way they they did it the cut and run that left the bagram

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_02]: air base and our 13 dead soldiers and you know that's uh i don't know what you say about that

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_02]: other than boy uh if that's what she thinks is good military strategy we could be in for it

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_00]: well that's and we can also get to one of your areas of expertise you've been watching

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: the lgbtq issue for some time and is it the best thing to have the transportation secretary pete

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: budgej who as a male spouse a husband uh then criticizing jade vance because jade vance believes

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: in a traditional father and mother married family and refers to that as darkness uh that doesn't

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: seem to me to be the best kind of message that you want to present especially as people begin to

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: find out that tim wall so of course was the faculty advisor to the gay straight alliance and of course

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: you had all sorts of really bizarre things happening there at the convention what are your

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_02]: thoughts yeah i was i i mentioned it was like a star wars bar the convention floor because

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_02]: there's so many people who were uh openly trumpeting the fact that they don't want to live

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_02]: by uh traditional standards of any kind i mean there's a sexual anarchy that permeates the democratic

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: party now and everybody knows it they're the ones behind not letting parents know what kids

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: are checking out of the school library they're the ones pushing the lgbtq agenda in schools

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and and in corporations and of course i don't know if you've just done a program on this curbie

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_02]: but you know lots of the corporations are backing off now lows just announced they're

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: not going to fill out the human rights campaigns equality index anymore you just read my and deere

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: backed off yeah yeah let me just mention that i was gonna that was my next question i you know low

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_00]: lows released an internal memo saying that it was reversing course on many of its policies

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_00]: stated it would no longer support lgbtq pride events they're going to discontinue its dei

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: programs and no longer participate in surveys for the human rights campaign now you've been talking

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: about this for some time but one of my favorite lines around here is common sense is breaking out

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: all over the place and you now have a lot of corporations saying i think we headed down

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: the wrong road and we're going to reverse course tell us more yeah i you know this really

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02]: started when the ls angeles dodgers actually honored the sisters of perpetual indulgence

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: at a game and they're a group of gay men who mock the church mock christianity they have all sorts

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: of profane and sometimes it's seen signs and and there are the dodgers honoring them

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_02]: alienating baseball fans all over the country and i think there was a sense in corporate

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_02]: boardrooms that oh my goodness we've gone too far people are going to start

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: backing off supporting us and are buying our products the boycott of target had an impact

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and of course the bud wiser light mistake where they embrace transgenderism is still costing bud light

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_02]: they've dropped to fourth place i think they used to be the top settling beer in the country

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_02]: so corporation after corporation is saying you know if you go woke you go broke

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and the messages is loud and clear now one of the things i think it's so interesting is you actually

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_00]: not only have evidence of that being so controversial but you're actually getting more

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and more evidence of the fact that indeed people are recognizing how dangerous that can possibly be

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: because you actually do have this idea of go woke broke that's a gasparino's new book and again

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: you know whether it's a bud light or target now of course lows changing their mind in a variety of

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_00]: others this has become i think a reality that whether you're looking at the human rights campaign

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_00]: index whether you're looking at dei esg or a variety of others what a few years ago look

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_00]: like an unstoppable movement actually is changing course and that's one of the reasons why we'd

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_00]: like to talk about this on point of view because i don't think you're going to hear much of that

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_02]: on the mainstream press hey you're not and there have been other hopeful signs out there i mean

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_02]: look at the rfk jr joining donald trump in the campaign now they don't share views on everything

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: but they do share the view that the government shouldn't interfere with free speech that the

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: government shouldn't force vaccines on people that they don't want uh that the government

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: of security agencies are out of control there really is a deep state and having a kennedy clan

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_02]: member of that prominence join the trump campaign is a huge blow to the democrats and then talsy

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: gabard just this week former democrat congresswoman from hawaii and a very articulate lady who again

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_02]: i don't think we'd agree with all her views but she is a patriot she served in the military

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: herself and she feels the democrats have become so radical that the party left her i just can't

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_02]: help imagining that around the country people are saying that as well you know if the republicans

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: want to win this election they have to bring out two things one how radical the democrats really

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_02]: are not don't let them get away with all the lies about how they're moderate but they have to present

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: a positive vision too that's right what they can do for the country and all they have to do is look

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_02]: at the blueprint from the first trump administration and also i've been very impressed we're going

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: to talk about this tomorrow on our round table very good piece came out today by rich laury of

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the adept mr vance you know when first jg vance came out i thought okay 39 years of age

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_00]: never been on a national platform best known for talking about cat ladies i'm in

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and yet he has as rich laury said has not had a misstep and really is willing to go to places

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: that kamala harris and tim waltz would never go to he goes into interviews all the time he actually

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: oftentimes in a typical one will have a kind of a mini rally and then take questions from the

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: press he has handled himself very well and that's another aspect of the campaign as well so again

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: just some great illustrations but let me just before i let you go mention that again we do have a link

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: to robert h night dot com i don't have to remember all that you can simply go to our website point

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: of view dot net you can read your columns there of course you can find out about some of the

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: books you've published and uh people can contact you because they might say you know i'd like

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: to have a speaker for our event and certainly an individual that has written all these years about

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: these topics would be a great individual to contact so robert night always great to have

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_00]: you in the program and i would encourage people to go to your website and look forward to the

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_02]: next opportunity thanks for having me on curbie it's always blessing we will be right back

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[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_00]: spending a few more minutes at least talking about the campaigns and a couple other issues

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_00]: there as well might hold up my booklet on the importance of voting that booklet has

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: been very popular just had somebody wanted to get a whole slew of commentaries and booklets

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_00]: and hand those out to various groups and of course if you are wondering whether or not we

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_00]: have the possibility of a close election just look at the polls now again you've heard me say

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: many times and i'll say it again the only poll that really matters happens in november but if

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: you take some of these polls at least somewhat seriously let me give you three different

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: polls to show you where we are if you look for example at the latest emerson the hill poll and

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_00]: i'm going to be quoting from something it comes from the hill in just a minute that finds donald

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_00]: trump ahead in arizona 50 to 47 harris ahead in georgia 49 to 48 harris ahead in michigan

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: 50 to 47 harris ahead in nevada 49 to 48 trump ahead in north carolina 49 to 48

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_00]: a tie in philadelphia or pennsylvania basically 48 and trump ahead in wisconsin 49 to 48

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_00]: sounds pretty close to me those are of course the swing states if you take the latest fox news poll

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_00]: little different there shows uh come la harris narrowly ahead of donald trump in arizona 50 to 49

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_00]: harris ahead in georgia nevada 50 to 48 and trump narrowly ahead in north carolina 50 to 49

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_00]: somewhat similar and of course if you look at the national polls again this is again one of those

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: 48 to 43 in terms of the popular vote now the problem with any of the polls is many fold number one

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: so many of these polls are of registered voters i hate to break it to you but registered voters

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: don't vote and again you if you want some of the facts and figures this book that i'm holding

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: up right now those of you watching online or this book that we just sent out called the importance

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: of voting is significant because it reminds you first of all that not everybody who has registered

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: votes as a matter of fact as i point out in a typical church possibly up to 15 percent

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: of your church members are not even registered to vote that varies sometimes that is in the

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_00]: single digit sometimes it's even larger so it depends on which church which denomination

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: but that's the case and then of those registered to vote sometimes only two-thirds of them vote

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and so again one of the keys to any election is turning out voters and so if you look at some

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: of the polls of likely voters that is one issue there's a second issue and that is a lot of

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: people just simply do not answer their phones i get calls all the time on my cell phone for

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: example and lots of times it will even alert me to the fact that it's spam or in some cases

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: it just does not give me who is calling so i don't necessarily answer them and if they leave a

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_00]: voicemail usually it's somebody trying to help me with taxes or something that i don't need

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and so that is the case then even if they make a contact of individuals there is i think what

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_00]: you might call trump hesitancy given the fact that a lot of polls polling organizations sometimes

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: seem by the questions are asking are necessarily a little bit more left of center not that fox news

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: is but certainly some of these others emerson and washington post and all the rest people might

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_00]: say well i'm just undecided when they're planning and going out and voting for donald trump and

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: we've seen that before it's known as the bradley effect and i do talk about that issue in the

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_00]: booklet as well because we certainly have a problem there so there are many reasons why

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_00]: when you see these polls you have to take them with at least a grain of salt maybe a whole bag

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_00]: of salt nevertheless but one of the things that robert knight mentioned as we were going to the

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: break are some of the people that i think you would not have expected to come out and support

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_00]: donald trump two fairly prominent democrats one robert f kennedy jr the other one uh telsa

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_00]: gabbert who ran as a democrat for the presidency and of course as we mentioned the other day

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: john solomon referred to those two plus a third person elon musk as the so-called democrat party

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_00]: of power rangers you know the idea that they might have an impact but there is another way

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_00]: to look at this and this is my first article the article is a quote and some information

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_00]: and an interview in part with representative jeff van dru now i've known of him for some time

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_00]: because he used to be as a democrat representing some friends and family that i knew in south

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_00]: nor new jersey as a result are then on 2020 changed from being a democrat to a republican

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and that has happened with some regularity i mean back in the deep south you had jesse helms

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: democrat becomes a republican trend law democrat becomes a republican a phil graham in texas democrat

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: actually ran again as a republican rather than just switching parties rick perry the governor of

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: state of texas uh really originally was a democrat and actually worked on a presidential campaign

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_00]: for a democrat then later became a republican so that's not necessarily unusual but it is i think

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_00]: helpful sometimes to hear from an individual who actually represented a very important district

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_00]: i think he was first in the state and then eventually as a member of congress

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: representing that as a democrat and now as a republican and what the things that jeff van

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: dru said is the democratic party he says is not the party it used to be he says that someone

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_00]: has spent nearly two decades in the new jersey state legislature as a democrat before moving

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_00]: to the united states congress he said i had a front row seat to the dramatic and drastic

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: changes within the party over the years he gives us some examples of that goes on a little

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: bit later he says that an elected representatives of the people of america it is our privilege

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: in our duty to serve in their interest and he argues that the democratic party he says has

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: failed to do this time and time again uh he recognizes that uh at what one time certainly

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: the democratic party was for the working class now the policies favor as he points out big

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: corporations at the expense of american workers in small business trade deals economic policies that

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: one aim to support local businesses now prioritize the interest of multinational companies and i

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_00]: think anybody that's been a democrat for some time and certainly has always voted for a democrat

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_00]: would be surprised at what he goes through because he's in some respect setting aside

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_00]: some of the assumptions i would imagine if i were to take my microphone out of the studio and go into

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_00]: the street just where we're broadcasting and ask some people are you a democrat fine what

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_00]: does the democrat party represent well it represents the little guy represents a working

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: class represents unions some of that's still true but a lot of it is not uh and when i'd say

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_00]: well which is the party of the rich they say oh of course that's a republican party no it

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_00]: really is the democratic party if you look at all the major donors in that regard now again the idea

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: of perpetuating that it's a party of the rich because they'll talk about the coke brothers when

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00]: they were actually more significant donors to the republican party than they are now

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_00]: certainly reinforces that but you think of any of the major prominent uh by uh

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_00]: millionaires with the exception of elon musk and you know that they're all pretty much

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: supporters of the democratic party but don't take my word for it here's an individual that has been a

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_00]: democrat for decades and then became a republican and representative jeff van druhe says uh internationally

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_00]: the democratic party's lack of decisive leadership is weakened our global standing emboldened our

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_00]: adversaries and the rest and then talked about the fact that he really has an understanding

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: why robert f kennedy juniors move to denounce the democratic party and endorse donald trump

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: is important and actually believes that it should be a wake-up call uh to their leadership and that

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: there's a need for a substantial change and then he goes on to remind us of some of the other

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_00]: facts that we know only so well look at our nation's current state rising illegal border

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: crossings that have led to a tragic loss of innocent life and economy struggling under the

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_00]: weight of rampant inflation now of course he's a republicans who would expect him to be critical

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_00]: of the democrats as well as supportive of the republican policies but i thought it was

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: also interesting because if you don't know the story of uh jeff van druhe when he talks about

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_00]: kennedy's he has some familiarity because interestingly enough in 2020 he actually ran against

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_00]: ted kennedy's daughter-in-law that would be amy kennedy and pointing out that uh he said even

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: despite having her family's substantial backing and of course the financial resources she couldn't

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_00]: overcome as he points out the growing frustration among voters people he says in south jersey

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: were fed up with the direction of the democratic party even back then that was four years ago

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and they were looking for a change a departure from the status quo that the party had come to

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_00]: represent so again he can certainly speak with some authority and i thought you might appreciate

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_00]: this this is an article that's about three pages long and if you have been a democrat if you

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_00]: know someone has been a democrat and said uh i do get the sense that the democratic party

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_00]: today is not the democratic party of my father or my grandfather it doesn't seem to even be the

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_00]: democratic party that existed when bill clinton ran for office a lot of people said it would be

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_00]: impossible for him today perhaps to run in the democratic party because of the positions he

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_00]: held back then which may be of change now but nevertheless it's just another way to look at

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_00]: what i think has become a fundamental realignment of political parties and we see that most in

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: the democratic party let's take a break we have more to cover right after this thing to point of view

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and let's say we can for just a few minutes talk about immigration and again help you to

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_00]: have some discernment when you begin to hear some of the comments perhaps that will surface

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_00]: tonight in the interview with kamala harris and tim will also even if you do not watch that

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_00]: because it is the first interview and because it was on cnn it's going to have a lot of press

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: coverage and we'll try to cover some of that tomorrow but my commentary today is about critical

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration theory and next week of course i have one on immigration as well that one on

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration conspiracy theories and you've got to understand that certainly there are a couple of

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_00]: obvious problems that a democratic candidate for the presidency has to address one is most

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: americans are very concerned about immigration and border security number two they're very

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_00]: concerned about the cost of goods inflation and the economy now the way kamala harris thought she

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_00]: could maybe dis her distance herself a little bit from the economy is to call for the idea of price

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: controls to deal with price gouging you will no doubt hear some things about that tonight

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_00]: we'll see how much she's pressed on whether or not that's a good idea and whether that really

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: would solve the problem but the bigger problem is the issue of immigration now you can deny that

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_00]: you were the border czar and technically she was not that was not a title but certainly she was

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: given that responsibility so there's a couple of ways to possibly deal with it and one is to

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: actually use the piece that i've given you that comes from james lindsay he's arguing

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_00]: that kind of the next big woke trend is going to be what he calls critical immigration theory

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_00]: not to be confused with critical race theory says basically critical theory is so malleable

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: that you can put anything in it and the argument is is that let's just recognize that if we are

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_00]: going to be a welcoming nation then he says that we all play the game about the fact that

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_00]: these are poor and oppressed people from the world and they're coming here to escape and in some cases

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: very true violence in other cases coming here just to have a better standard of living i don't

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_00]: blame them for coming but at the same time we need to have an orderly process by which

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_00]: we allow people to come into this country and so the argument he makes is that you already

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: are starting to see some of this happening we've seen this in the mainstream media he says

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_00]: we've migrated from illegal aliens to illegal immigrants to undocumented migrants to just migrants

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_00]: pretty soon you're just going to hear them saying look they're just as american as american citizens

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and so as a result there's going to be an attempt to kind of water down and even eliminate the

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_00]: idea of national citizenship and talk about global citizenship we've seen that for years but he i

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_00]: is really on to something and i don't know that you'll hear that tonight but i think you will hear

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_00]: one of a few other arguments number one is that all of this uh concern about cons about immigration

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_00]: are basically conspiracy theories and we've talked about this before and rich laury and his piece

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: actually says that what you're running into is not so much the press trying to do fact checking

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_00]: as really just narrative policing because they'll pick something where i don't know jd vance will

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_00]: say well so eventually these people are going to take jobs away from americans and they'll say

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_00]: well that's not there's no evidence of that actually there is or that they will vote well

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: now we have a lot of evidence that in least local elections they are voting even the new york

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_00]: times which is calling this a conspiracy theory has to admit that right now people that are here

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: illegally are voting in local elections mostly in the deep blue places but nevertheless that's

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_00]: happening and so they're talking about a false impression of conspiracy theory and the rest

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the other argument then we saw this used during the various speakers of the convention is that

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: well joe biden provided a comprehensive immigration policy he put forward a piece of legislation

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and donald trump told him not to vote on it course by the way you can read and colter anybody

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_00]: else point out that there are many other people that were against it long before donald trump

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: said a word about it and second of all it isn't anything close to something that you would

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_00]: consider it to be a comprehensive immigration reforms as a matter of fact none of it would

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: be triggered unless you had more than 5000 immigrants come across the border each day

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and you know after a while you just realize there's just no way that that was going to work

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: so those are some arguments i think you're going to hear at the same time i mentioned earlier jd

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_00]: vance and tomorrow we'll spend some time talking about how the campaign is going both with the

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_00]: comments and questions for kamala harris as well as the fact that jd vance to his credit

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and it surprised me has been willing to go into just about any venue that's you can imagine

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_00]: most of the time he's done what you might call a hybrid mini rally where he will speak

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_00]: to a smaller group and then actually take calls questions comments from anybody

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_00]: about those issues most of the time is just uh from individuals that are part of the press

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_00]: there but he's also been willing to go into some really hostile media outlets and one the other day

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: is where uh he was being told that since we now have since this executive order was signed by

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_00]: joe biden fewer people crossing the border are your administration still going to separate

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_00]: families now to his credit jd vance never accepts the premise and this is a good way

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_00]: to address these kind of hostile questions he said wait a minute you're making an assumption

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_00]: that people are not coming here yes and some of the people coming across the southern border

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: aren't coming in the same numbers they were before because they're being flown in by the

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_00]: biden administration we've talked about this before on the program so he begins to challenge

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: that whole premise of that in the first place and of course then when you get into the question

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_00]: will there actually be people put in cages oh you mean the cages that were built during the

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_00]: obama administration that only were of concern under the trump administration or the idea that we have

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_00]: to separate children from individuals that claim to be their parents because we may not know their

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_00]: parents they may be uh child traffickers and of course we've pointed out that we have tens of

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_00]: thousands of young children that across the border and we've completely lost track of them

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_00]: so these are going to be some real interesting conversations the kind of hostile questions

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_00]: that jd vance has received recently about immigration will have to see how many of them surface

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_00]: for kamala harris and tim waltz and again if you want to be a wise and discerning viewer

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_00]: and reader recognize that there is a very desperate attempt right now to try to make the

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_00]: issue of immigration and border security go away by simply saying we don't have as many people

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_00]: flooding the border as before which of course negates the fact that we've had at least 10

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_00]: million people across the border and then the washington post talks about one ad that creates

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_00]: as they said it this is their quote a false impression that migrants are flooding unchecked

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_00]: into the united states rich lary love that says uh false impression what would it take to convince

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: the washington post that migrants are flooding into the country i mean again the attempt to

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_00]: try to diminish the some enormous number of people that across the border i think is something to be

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_00]: concerning and we'll see whether or not the words conspiracy theory are thrown around over

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_00]: the next 24 hours as it relates to the 10 million or more individuals that have crossed into this country

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_00]: illegally and the fact that we don't know where many of them are supposedly they are seeking asylum

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_00]: but then when it comes time for them to show up in their court date we never can seem to find

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: them so again those are just a few things you need to be thinking about as you watch or

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_00]: listen some of the things that will be unfolding over the next couple of weeks and when we come back

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_00]: we have some more fact checking to do and also some conversation about what happens if indeed we

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_00]: have a different president in terms of our foreign policy we'll talk about all that right after this

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