Point of View August 23, 2024 – Hour 1 : Weekend Edition

[00:00:02] [SPEAKER_04]: News, Point of View Weekend Edition Hour 1 the Weekend Edition Hour 1

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_02]: We're so grateful that you can join with us today. We have in the studio with us first

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_02]: of all Jeff Matthier, Executive Vice President, Chief Legal Counsel for First Liberty Institute

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and Dr. Merrill Matthews who of course has been a co-host many times before. We've posted

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_02]: many of his articles here today from The Hill. And, guys, why is it every time

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I go somewhere somebody says, Do you think you've got anything to talk about today?

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah! I think you even said it in the studio before

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_02]: before I get started. Everybody knows I'm going to do this program. We have a lot and we're

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_02]: going to talk about the Supreme Court. We're going to talk about the fact that right now

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_02]: press conference being held by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., going to probably end his campaign.

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_02]: He already has filed paperwork to remove himself from the Arizona ballot very soon

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot of others and perhaps he will also be endorsed or will endorse the Trump

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_02]: campaign. We'll talk about what that might mean. Dr. Merrill Matthews asks, are

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_02]: you ready for Cumbulomics or a Cumbulomics? It depends on where you put the L in there.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Cumbulomics, I like the Cumbulomics way you have better. We also have an

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: individual by the name of Daniel LeCalle who says, you know, this sounds familiar

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and it sounds like Argentina a little bit. We're going to talk about the issue of

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: immigration and there is some issues about whether or not this

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_02]: investigation in the House does point out a Biden family scandal and just

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_02]: because I always like to have something that just drives Jeff crazy one of these

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_02]: individuals talking about querying nuclear weapons. You thought I was making

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_02]: this up but this is dead serious. I don't it can't be true. It just can't be true.

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_02]: So anyway we're gonna have a lot of fun. Dr. Matthews again you've written

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_02]: quite a number of these articles including one voters will have to elect

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Cumbulot to find out what you'll do are you channeling Nancy Pelosi? Remember

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_02]: when she said we have to pass the bill to find what's in it? Indeed and that and

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_05]: that was what I saw in there in Politico was reporting on this was the fact that

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_05]: they were going to Politico was going around to several Democratic leaders

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_05]: and saying what do you think about the fact that Kamala Harris is not

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_05]: really giving any messages is not giving any detail. They said we're fine with

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_05]: that it's working for her. We would prefer that she wait till after the

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_05]: election before she decides to go out and explain what she's going to do

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_05]: and how she's going to do it. And I thought what doesn't that sound like

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Nancy Pelosi saying in 2010 you have to you have to pass this legislation Obamacare

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_05]: in order to find out what's in it and and it's essentially you've got to

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_05]: vote for we've got to elect her in order to find out what she really wants

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_05]: to do and more importantly how she wants to do it. Well again you know

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Steve Moore we've been on the program with us before he was reading

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: this article in the New York Times and it's all about how Kamala Harris will

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: spend her five trillion dollar tax plan and Stephen Moore said I had to read it

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_02]: twice because I said no no this can't be right and it turns out it is so you're

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: going to hear a fair number of things today that you would not have actually

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_02]: heard by watching the convention and I might just mention the first article

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: we're going to get to I think is something that relates to First Liberty

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_02]: because there is a poll that you did and of course there are a lot of people if

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: you go and read through the Democratic platform and I've read parts of it in

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: matter of fact yesterday we interacted on some of those with one of my guests you

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: will see that one of things they want to do is change the Supreme Court and

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: this article actually has a picture of an individual and we mentioned her

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: earlier in the week for our listeners up there in Michigan that is

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_02]: state senator in Michigan Mallory McMoroll represents the 8th district she

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: actually dragged up to the podium copy of project 2025 I don't think it really

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: looks like that but I think she did it for effect and then said that Donald

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Trump using this project would then weaponize the Department of Justice to

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_02]: go after his political opponents and could even turn the FBI into his own

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_02]: personal police force and I some of somebody on X said should we tell her that

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_02]: that's already happening on the other side but nevertheless let's get back to

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_02]: this so when you see this article if you go it's the first article on a point

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_02]: of view we see that if you are going to actually deal with the Supreme Court

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_02]: the most Americans it seems Jeff say we kind of like the Supreme Court just

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: the way it is. I mean that's the good news I mean this the Mason Dixon

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: poll that first Liberty had commissioned demonstrates that Americans continue to

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: continue to oppose changing the structure of the Supreme Court. That's the

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: good news. The bad news is when we did it a year ago the numbers were stronger

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and so there is a trend at least that more Americans are becoming more

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: skeptical now that's not surprising right because the left-wing media and

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: so many politicians over and over again I mean attacking unfairly attacking

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: justice as Thomas and Alito I mean we couldn't you know women every day we

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: got a story from the mainstream media about those type of containing those

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_01]: type of attacks but I think when they're educated and people realize if

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: you tinker with the Supreme Court what you're really doing is you're

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: threatening the independence of the judiciary if you threaten the independence

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_01]: of the judiciary there is no check on the other branches of government and it

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: really goes to I mean it's just fundamental and we were joking the

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: other day at the offices I mean we need to bring back the Saturday morning

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: cartoon about the branches of government so that we can explain how our

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: constitutional republic is supposed to work so I mean the way we look at

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: First Liberty I mean we think I mean this is a we will lose our country I mean I

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: can't overstate it because I really believe if the Supreme Court becomes a

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_01]: political football and and whether it's through term limits or adding justices

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_01]: or kicking justices off the court limiting the Supreme Court's jurisdiction

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_01]: any of those things if politicians tinker with the court then you know we

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_05]: won't have a Supreme Court Jeff mentioned the good news and the bad news the

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_05]: worst news is Chuck Schumer Senate Majority Leader right now has indicated

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_05]: that he wants to have some carve out votes that don't that eliminate the

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_05]: filibuster so they can do exactly what Jeff is concerned about here let's

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_02]: if we can also you it may have not read the article by Dr. Merrill

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Matthews but Biden's plan to Venezuela is the US Supreme Court you and all these

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of verbs that you create but nevertheless we have examples in history

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_02]: right now of what happens when you start packing the court Hugo Chavez ran

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_05]: for president in Venezuela in 1999 I believe it was when the promise that

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_05]: the court would be a part they would not be messing with the court it would

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_05]: be an independent judiciary he then later came in and packed the court

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_05]: they had already term limits on the court I think there's are 18 years if I

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_05]: remember correctly so you only serve for 18 years but he packed the court and

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_05]: added a bunch of other justices sort of in reserve so if they kick somebody off

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_05]: real quickly they can put somebody else on and the court has essentially

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_05]: become a tool of the Venezuelan government yes so I mean you can

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: imagine let's say you know now I mean worst case scenario the the

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Democrats take the presidency they they take back the house keep the Senate

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_01]: they do away with the filibuster and they and they do tinkering with with the

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Supreme Court well then what happens in because it'll be a disaster what happens

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: in four years well then the Republicans will come and they'll add more

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: members of the Supreme Court then the demo I mean we'll have a Supreme Court

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_01]: the sitting like a legislative body which is exactly what happened in

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Venezuela well again when we come back from the break one of the things in

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_02]: this article is the claim again from I don't want to keep beating up on Senator

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Mallory McMoroll but she's basically said and last night I think I heard

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Kamala Harris say that may all the Supreme Court has ruled that Donald

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Trump is completely immune because he has total immunity when at least address

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_04]: that issue right after this this is viewpoints with Kirby Anderson at a

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_02]: conference last month two presidential candidates talked about

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_02]: establishing a strategic reserve for America's finances both Donald Trump and

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Robert Kennedy Jr. spoke to the Bitcoin conference and called for the

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_02]: establishment of a Bitcoin strategic reserve in addition senator Cynthia

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Lummis explained her Bitcoin reserve legislation to the audience that also

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: included other members of Congress and CEOs of companies and billionaire

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_02]: investors not so long ago conversations about Bitcoin were taking

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: place on the periphery of society no longer two presidential candidates spoke

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_02]: at the conference and even the presidential campaign for Kamala Harris

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: has been talking about cryptocurrency consider just a few of the comments by

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: the two candidates Kennedy referred to the Bitcoin strategic reserve as a

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_02]: corruption's greatest foe he also said Bitcoin is anti-war Trump promised

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_02]: to make America a nation that leads in Bitcoin but he also called for an end

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_02]: to operation chokepoint 2.0 and for an end to the development of a CBDC one

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_02]: of the other speakers Michael Saylor who is the former CEO of MicroStrategy

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_02]: refers to this idea as the Louisiana purchase of our generation he reminds

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_02]: people that Thomas Jefferson purchased the Louisiana territory for $15

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_02]: million back in 1803 and nearly doubled the size of the United States

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_02]: William Seward paid $7 million for Alaska that has a trillion dollars

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_02]: of oil underneath it will a strategic reserve be implemented in the next

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_02]: few years I think it deserves attention and should be debated in Congress

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_02]: after the November election I'm Kirby Anderson and that's my point of view

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_04]: for a free booklet on a biblical view of anti-semitism go to viewpoints dot

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_04]: info slash anti-semitism viewpoints dot info slash anti-semitism

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_04]: you're listening to point of view your listener supported source for truth

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_02]: back once again Dr. Merrill Matthews as well as Jeff Matier in studio I

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_02]: recognize this is a radio program but at the same time we do have cameras in

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_02]: here from time to time we hold up things for you to see and even if you can't

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_02]: see them right now you might want to go back a little bit later I'll hold up

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: for example the cover of the New York Post and if you have not seen that

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's easy to find out there on Google it looks like the idea of

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_02]: the Oscars and so here it says the Oscar goes to DNC 2024 Douglas Murray awards

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_02]: the Democrats for their and he calls it lying fake Hollywood convention and

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_02]: says first of all that Nancy Pelosi should get the best actress award for

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_02]: pretending that she didn't just shiv Joe Biden and there are all sorts of

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_02]: things that we could do fact checks forever but one that I mentioned just

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_02]: a minute ago goes back to first on Monday you had of course the state

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: senator Mallory McMorro saying basically that Donald Trump is completely

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: immune from prosecution because of the recent Supreme Court ruling now this

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: article that we have posted here which comes from the Wall Street Journal then

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_02]: it takes that on but in case you would like to know about how to

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_02]: respond to that statement because it's interesting she said it on Monday I

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: heard it again on Tuesday heard again on Wednesday and I heard Kamala Harris

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_02]: say it last night right and it's just simply not true is it it's absolutely

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: false I mean and it really I mean someone needs to hold people accountable

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: when they say things that are just I mean it is just I get it's a talking

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: point I guess is Democrat talking point but it's just it's just absolutely

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: false and we take two minutes reading the Supreme Court's decision that's

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: not what they said what what what they said actually they sent it back down to

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_01]: determine if that were true then the case that the case is over right right the

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_01]: case is done because he's completely completely immune from anything that

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: he did that's not what they said what what what the Supreme Court said he's

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_01]: immune from official acts and it's the issue is determining what is what

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: is and what is not an official act of the presidency and anything that's

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: not an official act he is not immune from that but that I guess is those adding

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_01]: those two sentences to that explanation doesn't work for the Democrats and

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_05]: their talking point and furthermore that's exactly what they want Democrats

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_05]: would want exactly a ruling like this they would want the president whether

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_05]: it's Joe Biden or perhaps Kamala Harris in the future to be immune from

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_05]: something that she might decide in her official acts to do whether it's

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_05]: bombing somebody or whatever else I mean she you won't hurry and official acts to

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_05]: be immune but if Joe Biden was actually colluding with Hunter Biden to to take

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_05]: money that's not an official act you would want him to be able to be prosecuted

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_05]: for that this is that this it is the most sensible decision by the Supreme

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Court I mean that's exactly what you would want yeah well again I'll just

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: give you two sentences he's come from the Chief Justice John Roberts and

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_02]: sentence number one the president enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts and

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: not everything the president does is official sentence number two the

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_02]: president is not above the law well that's the kind of thing we've been

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_02]: here in the Democrats say for some time and I hope that we get a good clear

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_02]: ruling on that because frankly there are many people that have said many times

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_02]: presidents do get away with certain kinds of military actions and you can

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_02]: think of individuals like that and some of whom are Democrats Lyndon Johnson

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Barack Obama as well as Republicans and so again I think back to what you're

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_02]: saying Dr. Maromar-Athews that's exactly what the Democrats would want you don't

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_02]: want a situation where you're addressing an issue at the border or you're

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: taking out a terrorist even in this country and then actually having the

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_02]: president of the United States be drug into court over that issue right

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah no exactly or let's let's take maybe let's take a hypothetical maybe

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: weaponizing the the DOJ to go out well enemies you know maybe a president

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: directing the DOJ to go after enemies I mean is that an official act or is

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: that outside the scope I would suggest that that it's outside the scope if

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: if a president is directing an attorney general to go after one of his or her

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_05]: political enemies this and things like checking on the election when Donald

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Trump called in Georgia after the 2020 election and wanted to say I need you

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_05]: to find me some votes is he doing that as a president who is trying to ensure the

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_05]: safety and security of the elections or is he's doing that as a candidate who

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_05]: wants to try to come up with some extra votes and some so some of the

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_05]: questions of whether or not it's official or not official that's where

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_05]: it gets gray and they send it back to the lower courts to try to determine

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_02]: make sense or a phone call to an individual over there in Ukraine you

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_02]: know oh yeah led to an impeachment so that's a question that we'll come back

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_02]: to but again the bottom line is on this article as I'm holding up right now is

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: the surveys show that yes maybe there's been a little bit of a movement over

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: the last year because the pounding that has been taken place on the Supreme

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Court by the Democratic leaders that didn't like some of the decisions or

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_02]: by the mainstream media have seen some changes but by and large most Americans

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: are not excited about court packing and as we had Kelly Shackleford in here the

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_02]: other day he reminded us that back in 1983 a man by the name of Joe Biden said

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_02]: that court packing was a really bad idea it was a crazy idea phone head

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_02]: bone head I wasn't sure I want to use that phrase but why not well yes

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a head idea and I think Kelly said that I think he was right in 1983 and

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_02]: wrong now so again that is a piece that you might want but just before we go to

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_02]: the break our second article this comes from the New York Times but I have a

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_02]: new one that just came out more recently right about now and I haven't

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_02]: heard what all the individual has said but Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is has been

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_02]: an independent candidate turns out he's in Phoenix today and of course

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_02]: so is Donald Trump now Donald Trump was at the border yesterday they closed it

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: down because of a threat of assassination which some of you may or may not

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_02]: have heard that tells whether or not you're listening to certain kind of

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_02]: news programs or others but nevertheless and we also know that late

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_02]: yesterday Robert F. Kennedy Jr. filed paperwork to remove himself from the

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Arizona ballot and as least possibly going to endorse Donald Trump's

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_02]: campaign now I'd love to get your thoughts of Dr. Merrill Matthews first

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_02]: we've always thought that at first it was thinking that Robert F. Kennedy

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_02]: might be pulling more votes from Joe Biden course now we're talking about

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Kamala Harris but it looked like that maybe Robert F. Kennedy was pulling

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_02]: a fair number of votes from Donald Trump's right there was a time when

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_05]: he was polling 15 to 20% and it looked like he could actually sway the

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_05]: election that has declined especially now that Kamala Harris is in there and

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_05]: plus some of the things that Robert Kennedy has done including the bear

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I did cover that one David so maybe they don't know the bear in Central Park

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_05]: and his confession that he said there's other things in my past I've

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_05]: not been a saint over my life this is another one where we get Jeff's head

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_02]: exploding can you believe that a presidential candidate they hit a bear

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and he drags it to the Central Park to make it look like it got hit by

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_02]: somebody riding a bicycle.

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So he only had Kennedy only a candidate and he had to admit it because

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: again the New York Post was going to run with a story about that I assume

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: his uncle Teddy told him how Teddy bear how you take care of issues.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_05]: So anyway he had been a Democrat he changed an independent.

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_05]: He's now apparently during the Republican convention floating

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_05]: discussions with perhaps he could end up getting a secretary slot cabinet

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_05]: slot or something in the Trump administration.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_05]: His fight his vice president running mate Shanahan is very liberal but she

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_05]: seems to be on board with this so we may find out that he's making a deal

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_05]: and is going to support Trump and he if his voters do go over there that

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_05]: gives Trump but not a huge bump but something of a bump.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And again Shanahan was on a program the other day explaining that and what

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_02]: she was saying basically is at least we want to go on the side

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_02]: that promotes freedom and that I thought was kind of interesting.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_02]: She recognizes I'm sure that she's pro-abortion so she doesn't

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe think about the issue of freedom of choice but they recognize

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_02]: that if you are right now concerned about the future of democracy

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: which was the theme all week at DNC you know democracy and Washington

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: post democracy dies in darkness and all that but it seems to me that

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: the place if you really believe in freedom of speech you saw the

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: interview with Elon Musk with Donald Trump you see the willingness

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_02]: of Donald Trump to consider other ideas at least have the

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_02]: administration is not going to close that down or work with social

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: media so in some respects if you have to pick one side or the other

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: there she felt like it was pretty easy pick even if she would

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_02]: disagree with some of the social issues.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I think that's right and so you could have Robert F. Kennedy

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Jr. going over and endorsing Trump if some of his followers go

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_05]: that direction that could end up as I said being a little bit

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_05]: of a bump for him and what may end up being a very tight

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_05]: race because I think some of the shine is going to go off the

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Democratic candidate pretty soon here now that we're actually

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_05]: sort of entering the official time of the election it could be

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_05]: those extra votes could be essential.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah well we're going to take a break and when we come back

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Merrill Matthews are you ready for commonomics I like

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_02]: that better get it commonomics either way you want to say it

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and it is I think a very interesting look at what the

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_02]: economic impact would be now that we have a little better

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_02]: idea of what Kamala Harris wants to implement and

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_02]: of course we also need to get into the idea of price

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_02]: controls and a lot to cover be right back.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It almost seems like we live in a different world from many

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_04]: people in positions of authority they say men can be women

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_04]: and women men people are prosecuted differently or not at

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_04]: all depending on their politics criminals are more valued

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and rewarded than law abiding citizens it's so overwhelming

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_04]: so demoralizing you feel like giving up but we can't we

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_04]: shouldn't we must not as Winston Churchill said to Britain in

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_04]: the darkest days of World War two never give in never give

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_04]: in never never never never yield to force never yield to

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_04]: the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy and that's

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_04]: what we say to you today this is not a time to give

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_04]: in but to step up and join point of view in providing

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_04]: clarity in the chaos we can't do it alone but together with

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[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_04]: clarity today at point of view dot net or call one eight

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_04]: hundred three four seven fifty one fifty one point of view

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[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_04]: fifty one point of view will continue after this you are

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[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_04]: management or staff of this station and now here again is

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Kirby Anderson Jeff material in studio Dr. Merrill Matthews if

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_02]: you'd like to join us one eight hundred three five one

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_02]: one two one two we've been waiting to hear a little bit

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_02]: more about what Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would have to say but

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_02]: he has yet to step to the microphone they're now saying

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_02]: in about 10 minutes for those of you hearing this live and

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_02]: then we'll see what he has to say but I thought Dr. Matthews

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_02]: for just a minute we before we get on to commonomics or

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_02]: common dynamics whatever one you want to call it there are

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: some very important lessons maybe even a teaching moment

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_02]: for how difficult it was for even somebody of the

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to get on 50 ballots around the country

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and I remember decades ago one of the people that Marlon Maddox

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: oftentimes had was on was a guy by the name of Howard

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Phillips who started the Constitution Party and said

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_02]: when the problems is there's so many of these state laws

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and most of the election although the Democrats

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: won't change that but the elections are basically run

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: by the states are so tied to a two-party system that

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: whether you're the reform party the Constitution Party

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: the Libertarian Party the Green Party it is just really

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_02]: difficult to come up with a really viable third party

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: because there was so much bias against anything other than

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_05]: the two parties that's right and Robert Kennedy mentioned

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_05]: this several times so he started out as a Democrat when

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_05]: it looked like he was not going to get that nomination he

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_05]: shifted to an independent and was trying to get on in

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_05]: every state and there had been discussion back in April

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_05]: and May as to whether or not he might be the Libertarian

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Party candidate who seemed a little bit of an odd mix but

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_05]: he went and spoke to them but they just they rejected him

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_05]: being their candidate but the Libertarian Party the Green

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Party are generally on on every state but every state has

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_05]: different rules some are easy to get in some are very

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_05]: difficult to get in sometimes you've got to get

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_05]: thousands of signatures in some of them just pay a

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_05]: little money and you're on the ballot so that's the

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_05]: struggle that they have and he had managed Robert

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Kennedy had managed to get on several states but if he

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_05]: was wasn't going to get on you know a huge number it was

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_05]: just pointless to continue the the campaign but it does

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_05]: make it there and I'll mention this he he argued that

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Democrats were working to keep him off very true it's not

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_05]: just me trying to get on these these uh uh mistake

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_05]: ballots but it's other parties trying to keep me

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_05]: that is Robert Kennedy off of them and working to try

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_05]: to convince them to not let me on and it makes it

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_05]: there's very costly and it's very time consuming and you've

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_05]: got to have a big campaign organization to be able to do

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_05]: this in all 50 states that's for sure yeah which which I

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_01]: think makes remarkable that pro was able to was able to

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: but then he had he had the finances and and the

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: campaign to do so you know watching a little bit and

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: watch a lot because I couldn't stomach it but

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_01]: watching the Democratic National Convention and really

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: watching the reports of what was occurring outside

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_01]: the the DNC and I know I know you've talked about this but

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: the the abortion and I mean just I mean the culture of

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_02]: death yeah um that except for me is in free abortions yeah

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and just in celebrating it and I and this is an original

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: to me but but I heard someone describe I mean you know

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_01]: the Democratic Party has really moved from pro-choice

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: to now it's just I mean it's just pro-abortion it's

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: just pro-death it's the abortion party yeah that was

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: a major thing of the yeah because Bill Clinton

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_01]: would talk about we want to make abortion safe safe even

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: rare yeah and that's not that is not this Democratic

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Party and then the discouraging thing is the

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Republican Party which I'm a member of um um seems to

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: be softening because it used to say the Republican

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Party is clearly pro-life well is it is it still pro-life

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and so I bring that up in this discussion because let's

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: say that the that the Republican Party goes the

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_01]: way of the conservative party in in in Britain yeah or the

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Whig Party or the Whig or moves I mean moves to a more

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah you know moderate and not and backs away from issues

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_01]: like abortion um well what's left for people of faith

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and because of the system you know well we just start

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_01]: our own party well okay um ask Howard Phillips ask

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_01]: now Robert Kennedy Jr. not that he's a conservative by

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_01]: any stretch of the imagination but I mean I worry about that I

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: mean because I you know I think it's probably we need to

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: take back the Republican Party but I'm not sure you know how

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_05]: that how we do that and just point I think is it reflects

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_05]: my own sort of internal struggle here because on the one

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_05]: hand I feel like in an open society you ought to be able

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_05]: to run and we ought to be able to choose somebody else on

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_05]: the other hand the two-party system really forces it to

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_05]: concentrate and you get two options and you don't have the

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_05]: kind of problems that you have in Great Britain and some of

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_05]: the parliamentarian societies where Israel right? Israel

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: where you have how many different parties and so it's

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_05]: it's uh I had that struggle because on the one hand I'd

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_05]: like somebody to be able if this is a good candidate and

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_05]: wants to be able to run I'd like to be able to have a

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_05]: chance to vote for him but it's very hard to do it on

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_05]: the other hand having a lot of candidates out there sort of

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_05]: loots and really obstructs the sort of the two-party

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_05]: system which has worked pretty well for us. Yes and again I've

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_02]: had people say why can't we be like at Italy? Why can't we be

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: like Israel and have multi-parties? I said we can

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_02]: because if we could and of course that is hypothetical

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_02]: because of all the problems we just mentioned then you

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_02]: prevent that situation where let's say somebody is

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_02]: really strongly environmental but also pro-life and yet it

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_02]: says to the Democratic Party we need to at least open the

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_02]: possibility for being pro-life and go no and where are you

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_02]: going to go? You're concerned about climate change that's

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_02]: going to be something that's kind of the warp and

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_02]: woof of the Democratic Party. Oh you might get some

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_02]: comments about it in the Republican Party. On the

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_02]: other hand you have Republicans sometimes that say

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_02]: you know I really am concerned about poverty and I

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_02]: think there's some things we could do that would be

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_02]: better. I don't like Donald Trump and yet I am pro-life

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_02]: where are you going to go? You know and so you just

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_02]: have a situation where in some respects the party's

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_02]: control back to Jeff's comment since I'm a candidate

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_02]: at least if you will a delegate to various state

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_02]: conventions what is so striking is the difference

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_02]: in the grassroots. It is hard to find anybody that's

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_02]: pro-life even in the grassroots today of the

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Democratic Party. Yes. And it was the last time you

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_02]: had a pro-life candidate who was a Democrat run that

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_02]: would be the governor Casey for example from

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Pennsylvania by contrast. I mean it is hard to find

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_02]: among the grassroots of the Republican Party people

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_02]: that aren't much stronger in terms of the pro-life

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_02]: conviction and are deeply disturbed about the fact

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that Trump in this latest iteration watered down

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_02]: a few aspects of the platform so that may not

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_02]: last too long but we'll see. Well on that look

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'll just show you so a colleague of mine sent

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_01]: earlier today and this purports to be from

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Donald J. Trump and it says my administration will be

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: great for women in their reproductive rights and that

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: supposedly was tweeted this morning at 11.39 am

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: that scares me. That is not the party of Ronald

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Reagan and I don't know who's advising him.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know who has access to that and again

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_02]: whether those are tweets that are put out by somebody

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_02]: that gets changed later on. But back to the point.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know maybe this could be Russian for I know.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Back to your point though the Democrats

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_05]: repeatedly said if Donald Trump is elected he will

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_05]: eliminate he'll pass federal legislation to eliminate abortion

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_05]: and that is not Donald Trump's position. No that is not.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It should be his position but it's not. Yeah they also said

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_02]: that he would gut social security and I just said

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_02]: the other day on the air. OK I first heard that being used

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_02]: by Democrats against Ronald Reagan in 1980. So let's figure

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_02]: this out. That is what 44 years and over those 44 years

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Democrats have said that in every election about Republicans

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_02]: have we seen anybody gutting social security to have any

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_02]: evidence that that Donald Trump wants to gut social security

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_05]: and add Medicare in there because they said he will

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Donald Trump will gut Medicare and Trump came out right off the

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_05]: bat and when he first came out said we're not doing anything

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_05]: about social security or Medicare. I don't think that's a good

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_05]: position. Should be good but that's what he said.

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And so ironically it's the Democrats who took money out

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_05]: of Medicare for other things not the Republicans.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And again that's something only a few people would know

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_02]: but again get back to the whole issue that you can

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_02]: say that and if indeed the people you're trying to convince

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_02]: or the people that tuned in because I wanted to hear last

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_02]: night maybe they say I really don't know exactly what Kamala Harris

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_02]: believes. And we're going to talk about that after the

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_02]: break because still some people are trying to figure that out.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're a low information voter you go huh OK I have

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah that would be terrible but this claim that a Republican

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_02]: candidate whether it was Dole or you know certainly

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Reagan or Bush or anybody else would actually be

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_02]: guiding social security that has been something that has

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: been used for almost a half a century and have we seen

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_02]: any evidence of it. And yet it was said last night and

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: where are the fact checkers. We need to fact check some of

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: the fact checkers don't we. Anyway let's take a break and

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_02]: when we come back we'll get back to the economic issues

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and by then maybe we'll know a little bit more about

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: what Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has to say but are you ready

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_02]: for the economic plan that has been put forward now by Kamala

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Harris and Tim Walsh. And we do have a little more

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_02]: specificity and if you want to find out what those are

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_02]: we have a couple of articles by Dr. Merrill Matthews. The

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_02]: first one that came out on the 13th of August the other

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_02]: one came out on the 20th of August and we have those

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_02]: on the website. Of course you can go to the Hill

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and read those as well. Let's take a break. We'll come

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: back and begin to get into what that might mean for your

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_02]: family and your finances right after this. School choice is

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_00]: a 2024 election issue and we need to hear more about it

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: from candidates seeking public office. Gaining

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_00]: educational freedom is an important goal for families

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_00]: who live in neighborhoods with subpar public schools.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: This is why black voters more than any other race

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_00]: support school choice. In a Wall Street Journal op

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_00]: ed Joshua Robertson senior pastor of the Rock Church

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: in Harrisburg Pennsylvania encourages the

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_00]: presidential candidates in both major political parties

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_00]: to quote listen to these constituents when it comes

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_00]: to educational freedom. Pastor Robertson who is also

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_00]: CEO of Black Pastors United for Education points to

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_00]: morning consult survey data which states that nearly

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_00]: 80 percent of black voters endorse policies like

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_00]: education savings accounts and vouchers. These plans

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_00]: allow public education funds to follow students

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_00]: to the schools or services that best fit their needs.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_00]: He says black communities need courageous leadership

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: that will equip our students to thrive and yes Democrats

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: do need courage to face the opposition while 71 percent

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_00]: of all voters support greater access to better education

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: options. Teachers unions stand in the way claiming

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_00]: that choice harms public schools financially. Pastor

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Robertson responds to that concern stating we want

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: properly funded public schools and education freedom

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_00]: at the same time. It's possible if our leaders

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_00]: don't play politics in an interview before the

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: presidential debate this past June Donald Trump said

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a big fan of school choice. I think school choice is

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_00]: a great thing. He added school choice is a big deal

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: and we're going to get it actually we are getting

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_00]: choice in some states and the recently adopted

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Republican platform endorses universal school choice

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_00]: as Kamala Harris courts the votes of black Americans.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_00]: She hears the cries for educational freedom. Pastor

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Robertson says he'd like to see her party earn

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_00]: our votes by backing school choice. It's wise policy

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and smart election strategy for point of view. I'm

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Pena Dexter. You're listening to point of view. Your

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_04]: listener supported source for truth. Back once again

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_02]: let's if we can spend some time if we could looking at

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_02]: the economic issues and the first one Dr. Merrill

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Matthews is what are the economic policies being

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_02]: proposed by the vice president and so far as you

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_02]: point out we haven't seen quite a bit or very much of

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: anything on the campaign website but we did at least

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_02]: get a glimmer of that because this time last week

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_02]: she said we've got to deal with price gouging

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_02]: so let's actually see if we can come up with a way to

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_02]: actually implement price controls and my joke was maybe

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_02]: she should have given it in the original Russian

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_02]: because it didn't work very well in Soviet Union didn't

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_02]: work very well in Venezuela and it didn't work very

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_05]: well Richard Nixon Richard Nixon go ahead yeah remember Richard

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_05]: nixon said as long as I'm president nobody's going to pay

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_05]: my remember I had a dollar for a gallon of gas or a loaf of

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_05]: bread but so he had this is a it he had Dick Cheney was at

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_05]: the Justice Department and it was Dick Cheney's job to

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_05]: write the rules on this and he didn't want to do it but

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_05]: he had to write the rules on that one is at the

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Justice Department and of course after they remove

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_05]: those the price is shot up so you can sort of press

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_05]: these things down a little bit but you always get

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_05]: shortages and other things constraints when you when you

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_05]: do it so she was talking about that they kind of

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_05]: backed off this a little bit saying well we we probably

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_05]: only do it in the in an emergency but if emergencies

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_05]: happen usually the price controls are the any price

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_05]: hikes go away fairly quickly if it's on gasoline or

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_05]: water or supplies or things of that nature so she's

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_05]: still talking though about housing housing has gone up

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_05]: significantly under the Biden administration both

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_05]: because of the housing and because of the insurance

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_05]: and the taxes that are going in there as a result the

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_05]: price of the median price of a house monthly payments

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_05]: about twice what it was when Biden came into office

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_05]: and that's from a Harvard study and so it has become a

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_05]: real problem and they want to do this so she's

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_05]: suggesting giving people twenty five thousand dollars

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_05]: to help them start out by the house and what that

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_05]: would do in economics is it would raise the price of the

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_05]: house because you're putting this money out there

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_05]: people it doesn't have to come out of their pockets so they're

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_05]: able to afford twenty five thousand dollars more and so

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_05]: the the government gives them this money and you see

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_05]: prices starting to go up in relation to that so she's

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_05]: talked about that she's talked about tax increases

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_05]: she wants to do a tax cut on the middle class

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_05]: which primarily as far as we can tell means increasing

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_05]: the child tax credit from currently two thousand dollars

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_05]: scheduled to go down to one thousand dollars but the

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_05]: increase to what we did during the pandemic of thirty six

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_05]: hundred dollars per child and maybe up to six thousand

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_05]: dollars per family with a newborn so you're talking

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_05]: about a lot of extra money and when they ask her how you

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_05]: gonna pay for this she said she started talking

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_05]: rambling about return on investments well we're

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_05]: going to have education that provides return on investment

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_05]: and you looked at this and I didn't see the reporter's face

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_05]: but the reporter had to look like what?

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_05]: What are you talking about? I'm asking you how you're going

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_05]: to pay for these taxes are the spending you're going to do?

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Well again the whole thing this was something that was in

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_02]: the top of my mind somewhat at the republican convention

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_02]: but it was always on my mind in the democratic convention

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_02]: because go to usdebtclock.com right now and you will see

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_02]: that the national debt is thirty five trillion dollars

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_02]: which breaks out to two hundred and sixty eight thousand

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_02]: dollars per taxpayer and that's only the tip of the iceberg

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_02]: because the unfunded liabilities are two hundred and

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_02]: eighteen trillion dollars and again people can't get their

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_02]: head around trillion so let's take some zeros off imagine

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah since we have the federal tax revenues about five

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_02]: trillion and spending about six point eight trillion imagine if

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_02]: you're making fifty thousand dollars a year but

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_02]: you're spending sixty eight thousand dollars a year and you

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_02]: have credit card debt of three hundred and fifty two thousand

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_02]: dollars a year that's where we are with the federal

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_02]: government and so then to then say we're going to give

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_02]: twenty five thousand dollars to every first time home buyer

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and forget about supply and demand for a minute what that's

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_02]: going to mean it's assuming that we actually have a

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_02]: balanced budget and we haven't seen a balanced budget in

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_05]: decades have we that's right yeah you have to go back to the

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Clinton administration when they had the the the dot com boom

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_05]: and some money was coming in so yes it's been quite a while

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_05]: but the she rolls these things out and this is this gets to

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_05]: one of the major points right now she has not had a press

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_05]: interview people have been pressing her the the media

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_05]: are getting a little more anxious and trying to press her

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_05]: a little bit not much but a little bit on having to have a

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_05]: down with her to say all right how are you going to pay for

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_05]: this and to get the answers off teleprompter so that she has

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_05]: to actually respond to these things because right now all

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_05]: she's come out with is platitudes about what we

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_05]: want to do without any way to actually cover them

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I mean there's a lot there that that that that that

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_01]: that you you just said Dr Matthews I mean first on on

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: price controls I mean I am old enough to remember

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_01]: not being able to go to the gasoline station on a certain

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_01]: day I said in the line I mean I remember that I remember

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_01]: that and and I assume under under and I can't even say it

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Kamala

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Kamala nox nomics yeah nomics I guess at the end Kamala

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_01]: nomics not only would we have that I guess we would have

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_01]: going to the grocery store not everyone could go to the

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_01]: grocery store the same day or we'd be like a Soviet

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: country in which some days there some days 40 people

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_01]: get bread and that's it when the bread's gone it's gone

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and if you don't line up in line so I mean it'd be like

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_01]: going to Walt Disney World I guess and standing in the

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_01]: line for the rides for economics but I mean I think

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_01]: what this is from look it's gonna be higher taxes we

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_01]: know that I mean they're just it's gonna be higher

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_01]: taxes and her definition of the middle class is no one

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_01]: else's definition of the middle class it's certainly

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_01]: gonna be more debt which means more inflation

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: it's almost as if and I was trying to figure out I

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know is she intelligent I mean does she really

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_01]: know what she's doing or saying and so is it really an

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_01]: attempt because this is gonna destroy the economy

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean even more I mean we thought Joe Biden was bad

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean this is even more so this is I think did you

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_01]: say steroids did someone say it was

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_05]: by steroids I said she would probably go with

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Biden nomics on steroids and Biden was already much

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_05]: further left than he had campaigned on and Kamala

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_05]: was considered left of Bernie Sanders on things so

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_05]: on the healthcare issue she had initially supported

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Medicare for all that's Bernie Sanders government

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_05]: run healthcare system she's implied that she's

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_05]: backed away from that don't you believe it you may

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_05]: not call it Medicare for all but her goal would be to

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_05]: put more people in a government run healthcare

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_05]: system either by expanding Medicare which is for

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_05]: seniors down raising Medicaid up and trying to

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_05]: go to the middle she'll she'll look for some

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_05]: way for the government to cover more people and

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that's in the platform so again it's not like

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_02]: some people might say well yeah platforms are full of

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_02]: platitudes and vague statements but both on the

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Republican side under Donald Trump as we just

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_02]: mentioned there have been a hands-on on the

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Republican platform and on the Democratic side

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_02]: there's also been a hands-on primarily more from

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Biden because if you read the platform you still

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_02]: assume that Biden is running interestingly enough

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_02]: but again how do you pay for it

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Brian Reddle would quoted him before at the

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Manhattan Institute said you know this idea of

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_02]: taxing the rich or need the rich to pay their fair

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_02]: share or something like that he says look if you

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_02]: were even seizing every dollar of income earned

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_02]: over five hundred thousand dollars it wouldn't

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_02]: balance the budget if you could liquidate every

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_02]: dollar of billionaire wealth it would fund the

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: federal government for only nine months and

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_05]: remember they don't necessarily want to pay for

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_05]: it excuse me under modern monetary theory

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_05]: you can just the government can print as much

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_05]: money as it wants to without there being any

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_05]: repercussions and we're not hearing as much about

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_05]: that because inflation did come in which they

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_05]: denied what happened but they essentially

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_05]: accept the modern monetary theory view of economics

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_02]: but again this idea of paying your fair share or

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_02]: attacks the rich even if you could and you're

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_02]: not going to get away with that even if you

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_02]: could take all of that wealth it turns out

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_02]: that that interestingly enough is a relatively

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_02]: small amount much more than you would think

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_02]: actually is in the hands of the middle class

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_02]: who are going to be transferring the wealth from baby

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_02]: boomers to others but that's where they're

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_02]: going to get it in terms of capital gains

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_02]: anyway we need to take a break and talk a little

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