[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Hour 2
[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_00]: the fourth and final night for the Democratic National Convention out of Chicago. And you
[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: would hope, I think, if you were a Democrat that they do a little better of organizing
[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_00]: and controlling their program. On Monday, as we pointed out before, they had all sorts
[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_00]: of things happening before even Hillary Clinton came on the stage. And then it took
[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_00]: a long time then to eventually get first Joe Biden and then of course Joe Biden on.
[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I know for those of you listening in the West Coast or Alaska,
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: you're going that wasn't that late. Well yes, but it was nearly midnight East Coast time.
[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And I suspect there were a lot of people in bed when the current president of the United States
[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: was given a time to speak when I don't think there were just a whole lot of people watching.
[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And given the fact that the estimates are that viewership in the Democratic
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_00]: conventions down about 22%, which surprises me, I thought there'd probably be more people tuning
[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: in because they want to know a little bit more about Tim Walsy spoke last night or
[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris he's speaking tonight. But nevertheless, so Monday was not real successful
[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_00]: if for no other reason than, I don't think they treated the president that well,
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_00]: but you can have your own opinion on that Tuesday. Many think that meant a little better.
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's where you had, of course, Barack Obama and Michelle Obama. You had Governor Pritzker
[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_00]: and a number of others and overall probably a little better. And then last night here we go again.
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You had Bill Clinton who was supposed to give a short message and instead went on twice
[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_00]: as long as he was supposed to go. Nancy Pelosi speaks transportation secretary Pete
[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Buttigieg says, and again we're getting close to what 1130 almost midnight East Coast time
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: when you finally have the opportunity for the vice presidential nominee, Governor Tim Walsy,
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: to explain who he is. And again, I can say a lot about the substance. The amount of just,
[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what, sometimes you don't want to call it line. I think some of these people
[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_00]: actually believe what they say is true. I don't know how they could actually believe
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: that. But one example, which we've talked about this week is the secretary of transportation,
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Pete Buttigieg came out a week or two ago and argued that the crime rate was higher under
[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Donald Trump than it is under Joe Biden. And I just knew that would come up in the convention
[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and he did talk about it last night. And if you find yourself saying, well, what's the answer
[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_00]: to that? That's one of the reasons I do these viewpoints commentaries, because my viewpoints
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: commentary really was an attempt to address that issue. And so two days ago on August 20th,
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I have a commentary on crime explosion in which I point out that yes, there are two
[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: ways we sometimes measure crime. One is the FBI's national incident based reporting system.
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But it only counts the individuals that report to the police a crime. But at a time when
[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_00]: you've had the defunding of police movement and there are fewer cops on the beat. And then
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_00]: first of all, they don't catch as many crimes. Number two, the individuals who actually have
[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: a crime perpetrated against them are less likely to report that. And so the other way
[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: in which we measure that is through the national crime victimization survey. When
[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: you look at that, it shows what you all know. And that is every survey that I've
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: seen, the latest Gallup survey says 92% of Republicans are convinced that crime is increasing.
[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: A majority of Democrats 58% also believe that. And of course last night said with complete
[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: certainty that indeed crime is going down. And as I said before, that doesn't even
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_00]: fit your own personal experiences. If you go into a CVS or a Walgreens, you see everything
[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_00]: behind glass, you hear everybody talking about crime in their neighborhood. You
[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: know that crime rate has gone up. But that's not what you heard last night. Tim
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Walser, of course, spends a fair amount of time saying, for example, that the future
[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump administration, if they are elected Donald Trump and certainly the other individuals
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: that are part of his administration actually are going to, for example, gut
[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: social security when the president didn't do anything of the sort in the four years
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: when he was president. And certainly has said that he doesn't want anyone to touch
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_00]: social security. So whether it's JD Vance or Donald Trump, all of them have said that
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: isn't even something that is being seriously considered. And again, I think for a
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_00]: person with a little bit of discernment has to recognize the first time we
[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: started hearing Democrats accusing Republicans of trying to gut social
[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_00]: security goes back to when Jimmy Carter was running against Ronald Reagan. Now
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: that goes back 42 years. Okay, in the last 42 years, do you have any evidence of
[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Republicans trying to gut social security? You have lots of evidence of people
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: claiming that. Do you have any evidence of it actually being done? And of course,
[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: the answer to that is no. Another one is that this administration, if indeed
[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the Trump administration would actually want to actually hurt the middle
[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_00]: class. Well, again, if you want to talk about who benefited from the Trump
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: tax cuts, a very high percentage of people in the middle class benefited
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: from that and the position of certainly Joe Biden. And of course, we don't
[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_00]: know where her position is, but I'm pretty sure the position of Kamala
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris has been that they do not want to renew those tax cuts. So the
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: taxes will go up for the middle class. The taxes will go up for all sorts
[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_00]: of individuals. You can go from point after point after point and these
[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: things are said and then occasionally somebody does a fact check on him, but
[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: most of the time, the average American just says, Oh, well, that's another
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: reason why I need to vote against Donald Trump and JD Vance and all the
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: rest. And of course, that's what unfolded right before your very
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: eyes tonight. Of course, you're going to have Kamala Harris speak. And I
[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: think the question you have to ask is the one I asked yesterday. And that
[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: is, you have been in charge for three and a half years, almost four years.
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And when Kamala Harris has a phrase she uses quite often that on day one,
[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do. Well, you've had since day one started in January of
[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: 2001. And so you have had three and a half years. And when
[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Democrats like, of course, we've had a chance to hear Bill Clinton, Barack
[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Obama and others say that we are going to do this. Democrats have been in
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: control of the White House from basically the start of 2009 January 2009
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_00]: till now with the exception of four years of Donald Trump. So essentially
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_00]: if you want to make that 16 years about 15 and a half years, 16 years
[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_00]: just rounded up 12 of the 16 years Democrats have been in control of the
[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: White House and have always had at least one in sometimes under Barack
[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Obama, two of the branches of government, the House and the Senate
[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: that are Democrat. And you did not do some of these things. What makes
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_00]: you think that you're going to do them now? So those are going to be, I
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_00]: think some of the questions that I think a wise and discerning person
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: might ask as he or she watches what is going to be said tonight. Of course,
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: we'll have a great opportunity to evaluate some of that tomorrow. We'll
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: have Kelly Shackleford with us and Dr. Merrill Matthews. But when we come
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: back, what about the threat to democracy? This very good piece that
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: came out from the editors of the Wall Street Journal. We'll talk
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: about next right after this. This is Viewpoints with Kirby
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Anderson. Revenge porn and publishing of deep fake abuse are a
[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: growing problem on social media. That is why US senators from both
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: parties have sponsored a bill known as Take It Down Act. It would
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_00]: criminalize the publication of non consensual intimate image
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: abuse and require social media platforms to remove such items
[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: immediately. On my radio program, we've encouraged listeners to
[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_00]: contact their two senators about the legislation. Recently I had the
[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: bill's author, Senator Ted Cruz on my program to explain why such
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: legislation was necessary. He said in recent years we witnessed a
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: stunning increase in exploitative sexual material
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: online largely due to bad actors taking advantage of newer
[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_00]: technologies like generative artificial intelligence. Many
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: women and girls are forever harmed by these crimes having
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: to live with being victimized again and again. Democratic
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Senator Jackie Rosen further explained as artificial
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: intelligence continues to grow and become more prevalent in
[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: daily life, we must prevent it from being used to produce
[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_00]: non consensual intimate images. Republican Senator Cynthia
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Loomis acknowledged the benefits and dangers of AI but said
[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: artificial intelligence is the future and provides an infinite
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_00]: number of possibilities of how this new technology can be used
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_00]: to improve lives around not only in this country but across the
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: entire globe. With any new industry comes the need to
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_00]: ensure that it's not being used by bad actors and AI is no
[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_00]: different. We need this bipartisan legislation to deal with this
[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: growing problem on social media. I'm Kirby Anderson and
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[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_02]: listening to Point of View your listener supported source
[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: for truth. Mac once again, let me just if I can point you to
[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: our second article on the website here, which is actually
[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_00]: written by the editors of the Wall Street Journal and it's
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: entitled Democrats and Democratic Norms but the subtitle is I
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_00]: think very interesting. The editors say there's a reason
[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: voters don't see Trump as a unique threat to democracy.
[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Now to understand some of this, you have to come back to
[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: a psychological term that we've talked about from time to
[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: time and that is projection. You've seen a situation
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_00]: sometimes where people will accuse you of something that
[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: actually they're doing and I think there is a possibility
[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: that that has been taking place because one of the themes
[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_00]: running this week through the Democratic National
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Convention is democracy and that we have a great threat
[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: to democracy. Lest you wonder about that Monday night,
[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_00]: we heard President Joe Biden say, we saved democracy in
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_00]: 2020 and now we must save it again in 2025, 24. And so again,
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you have to realize that the argument is, is that
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: by not allowing Donald Trump to be the president, we've
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: saved democracy. Okay, let's set aside the fact that
[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: we're not a democracy, we're a republic, but I get what
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: they're trying to get at here. And yet interestingly
[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: enough, they've been hammering this for some time. And the
[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_00]: press has gone along with this Washington Post, for
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: example, democracy dies in darkness. You've heard those
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: phrases as well. And yet the polls so far show that
[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: voters are kind of split on that about half think
[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: that the Democrats are the threat to democracy, half
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: think the Republicans are and the editors say, well,
[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_00]: part of that is partnership partisanship. You know,
[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_00]: you tend to think your people are good and the other
[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: party is bad. But that's not really the case, because
[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_00]: over the last eight years, Democrats have themselves
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: used the imperative of defeating Donald Trump as an
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: excuse they say to break democratic norms. Hence
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: the title Democrats and democratic norms. They give
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_00]: you lots of examples. I'm going to just give you
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the highlights. But I would encourage you maybe to
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_00]: take the time to read these three pages which go
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_00]: into pretty good detail. And the first is, of course,
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: the suspicion in the 2016 election that Donald
[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump was winning because of Russia, Russian
[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_00]: collusion. And they give you a quote from Adam Schiff.
[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You can remember all the things that we had to
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: endure for the better part of the four years that
[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Donald Trump was president, all arguing that
[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_00]: indeed that was due to Russian a collusion at
[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_00]: the same period of time. There was also this
[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_00]: persistent democratic claim of voter suppression.
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: In this case, they don't quote from Adam Schiff.
[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: They quote from Stacey Abrams who claimed, for
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: example, that the 2018 loss in Georgia was stolen
[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: and I won and all of the rest. And of course,
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: you even have Kamala Harris who was arguing
[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_00]: that that is indeed the case. And so that's
[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: why interestingly enough, the Democrats picked
[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Stacey Abrams to give the State of the Union
[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: response in 2019. And then it was even floated
[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: as a possible presidential candidate or at least
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: a running mate with Joe Biden. And of course,
[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris made a point of let me say this
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_00]: loud and clear without voter suppression.
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Stacey Abrams would be the governor of Georgia.
[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So the question that I think the press would
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_00]: ask and they will never ask is do you still
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: believe that? But it's again another
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: illustration of that. Then, of course,
[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_00]: he goes into the editors go into a whole discussion
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_00]: of the fact that Democrats want to pass HR
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: one. We've talked about this before.
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_00]: This would be an attempt to basically
[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: nationalize various state laws
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: and state requirements about voting.
[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: First of all, I think it at its face is
[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: unconstitutional, but that's not the case
[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: because the goal would be then to allow
[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_00]: mail in ballots to eliminate any kind of
[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_00]: deadlines, possibly for mail in ballots or to
[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_00]: radically change them to allow even more
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: ballot harvesting and the rest.
[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And when somebody raises some questions about
[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: whether or not that even is wise, constitutional
[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_00]: or whether that would lead to more voters
[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_00]: integrity issues and the rest, you have Joe
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Biden saying, well, do you want to be on the
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: side of John Lewis or on the side of
[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Bill Connor? Do you want to be on the side of
[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis?
[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So again, not even a fair response to
[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_00]: this is something we need to do for these
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_00]: reasons. And HR one so important
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_00]: that as Kelly Shackleford has pointed out
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: before, if indeed Democrats get a clear
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: control of the United States Senate,
[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_00]: they're even worth willing to get rid of
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: this 60 vote filibuster rule in order
[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_00]: to pass that.
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, since I mentioned Kelly
[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Shackleford, there's one more that comes to
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: mind and that is all of a sudden now,
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want to reform
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_00]: the Supreme Court.
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: In all of a sudden they're talking about it.
[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_00]: They've been talking about or implying it
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_00]: for some time now both Joe Biden
[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: and Kamala Harris are calling for term limits
[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_00]: on justices.
[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Chuck Schumer wants to restrict the court's
[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: jurisdiction, wants to impose
[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_00]: an ethic set of rules that Congress will
[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: oversee over the judiciary
[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and on and on and on.
[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And so again, the point that the editors
[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: are making is that Democrats have broken
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: norms so many times.
[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And one last one, of course, is obvious
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: one, and that is even willing to have
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: the first former president to be
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_00]: criminally indicted and then some of
[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: the actions by special counsel Jack
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Smith and the rest.
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And so again, the conclusion that they
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: come to is look, Americans
[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_00]: who are going to vote for Donald Trump
[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_00]: aren't aching for dictatorship, they
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_00]: say. They're looking for the alternative
[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and they don't see Democrats as
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: sinless guardians of US institutions.
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And so again, when Democrats lose,
[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_00]: they want to escalate their demands
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and the filibuster override voting
[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_00]: laws in 50 states abolish the
[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: electoral college restructure the
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Supreme Court grant DC statehood
[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00]: by trying to add at least two more
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: safe democratic seats and on and on
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and on. The list goes on.
[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a good piece to remind us
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: that even though this week there's
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: been an attempt to kind of sell the
[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_00]: American people on the fact that if
[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_00]: you elect Donald Trump, you're going
[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_00]: to ruin the country as we know it.
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And this would be a danger to
[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: democracy. That message doesn't seem
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: to be sticking at least yet.
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: One other piece is our first article
[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: that I've posted here and that one
[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_00]: comes from Rich Lowry.
[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris is way for thin
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and he does an interesting statement
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: because he says, you know, it's
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_00]: appropriate that Kamala Harris is
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: from the town of Oakland, California,
[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_00]: which is famously been said there's
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_00]: no there there having grown up in
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_00]: the Bay Area. I can remember that
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: story. But nevertheless, he says
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: it's hard to think of another
[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_00]: presidential nominee who felt so
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: superficial, not just campaign
[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_00]: tactic, but a reality.
[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he talks about on the
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Democratic side, Barack Obama on
[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_00]: the Republican side, Donald Trump.
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we think about those
[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_00]: individuals, they were instigators
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: of a movement, whether it's the
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: rise of hope and change or whether
[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_00]: it's MAGA. That's not something
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_00]: that fits Kamala Harris.
[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no real distinct mode of
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_00]: politics, whereas both Barack
[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Obama and Donald Trump had a feel
[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_00]: of something we hadn't seen before.
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_00]: There aren't any signature issues
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_00]: which with, of course, Barack
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Obama was everything from the
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Affordable Care Act to ending
[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the Iraq war, Donald Trump
[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_00]: building the wall and a variety
[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_00]: of others. And he says both
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Barack Obama in 2008 and Donald
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump in 2016 toppled
[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_00]: establishment candidates in epic
[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: nomination battles. Harris had
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: her nomination handed to her.
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And so the point is, who is
[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_00]: this woman? He says she's woke,
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_00]: but she doesn't embrace being
[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: woke. Her policies are
[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_00]: socialistic, although she's not
[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: a self declared socialist.
[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_00]: She's a tough law and order
[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_00]: prosecutor, except when she's
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_00]: not. She's not a party
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: institutionalist like say Bob
[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Dole was or later John McCain
[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and she's not a Bill Clinton
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_00]: who rose from as he said,
[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_00]: relative obscurity based on his
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_00]: unbelievable verbal acuity
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: charm and ability to really
[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: survive every particular
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: scandal. Her signature phrases
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: are banal. Are you just falling
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_00]: out of a coconut tree or
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: vacuous unburdened by what has
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: been? And so he says at the
[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: end, can Camilla Harris win?
[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the whole point of
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the exercise. Just like Joe
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Biden before she's merely a
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_00]: vehicle. She could be seen as
[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: a default candidate. Biden was
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: not Bernie Sanders and Harris
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_00]: is not Joe Biden at a time when
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: she happened to be the only
[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_00]: plausible alternative to Joe
[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Biden. She could be the next
[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_00]: president. What happens tonight
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: will be part of what people
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_00]: will know for her how well she
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: does or does not do. I think
[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: we'll depend on the most
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: important speech maybe she
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_00]: will ever give there will be
[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: probably more people watching
[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: tonight than have watched the
[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_00]: last three nights and we'll
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_00]: see where it goes. And of
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: course, we'll be talking about
[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: it on our Friday weekend
[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: edition. We come back though.
[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_00]: There's some other issues we
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: need to put on the table. A
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: little bit of fact checking at
[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: least on the issue of
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration, which was a word
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: mentioned very rarely this
[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: week. And yet it's something
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: that certainly is very
[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_00]: significant in the minds of
[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: many voters. Inflation,
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration, Israel, the three
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_00]: eyes still are very
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_00]: significant. And we'll talk
[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_00]: about especially the immigration
[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_00]: issue right after these
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: important messages. Where does
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_01]: moral truth come from?
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: According to 58 percent of
[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Americans, individuals
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: determine moral truth. A
[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_01]: quarter of generation Z says
[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: society determines moral
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: truth and morality can even
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: change over time. Only 42
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_01]: percent of Americans believe
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_01]: that truth comes from God.
[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about you, but I
[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: find these numbers extremely
[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_01]: troubling. It really is a
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_01]: crisis of truth. And that
[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_01]: crisis has consequences. Look
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: at society. Evil is called
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: good, good, called evil.
[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: People with biblical beliefs
[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: are called bigots or worse.
[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: They're canceled, but there is
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[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_01]: here again is Kirby Anderson.
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Back once again, let's if we
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_00]: can maybe just think about
[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: some of the real challenges
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: that the Harris
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: waltz of campaign really is
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: going to have to address.
[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_00]: These are significant
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_00]: challenges and of course one
[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: that I mentioned just a
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: minute ago would be the
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_00]: economy and inflation and
[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: that whole concern. And so
[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: in some respects, I think
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris believes she's
[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: dealt with it by last
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Friday giving a speech about
[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_00]: price gouging and calling for
[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_00]: price control. We may not
[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: think that's a very good
[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_00]: idea. I give you in one of
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_00]: my viewpoints commentaries
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: this week some very good
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_00]: reasons why that is a
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: really bad idea. But
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: nevertheless, you will have
[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_00]: a chance to read that.
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe that actually is
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_00]: coming up tomorrow so you
[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: can read that. But again,
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_00]: those are some concerns
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_00]: that we can obviously
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: feel that she needs to
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_00]: address. But what about
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_00]: this issue of immigration,
[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: which oftentimes has been
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the number one issue or
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: other times the number two
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_00]: issue? What can you do
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_00]: about that? And you can
[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_00]: certainly deny that you
[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_00]: were not the borders are.
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think most people
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: sort of know what that's
[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_00]: about. And you can
[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: certainly recognize that
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe they would be a
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_00]: possibility, especially if
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_00]: you're in the mainstream
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_00]: press and you want to make
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: sure that Donald Trump is
[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_00]: not elected and you want to
[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: make sure that whoever the
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Democratic nominee is,
[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_00]: whether it's Joe Biden or
[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris is elected,
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: what could you possibly do?
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And the answer is you can
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_00]: refer to anybody who believes
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: that we have a problem at
[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: the border as a conspiracy
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: theory. Now I'm sure there
[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: are a few of you that
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: roll in your eyes saying
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: you can't believe that.
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, again, look at what
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_00]: they were able to do for
[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: months to try to assure
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: us that there was no
[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: problem with the mental
[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_00]: acuity of Joe Biden.
[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I think if you could
[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_00]: an opportunity, at least
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: for the low information
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: voter to say, really, all
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: these things about migrants
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: are nothing more than a
[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_00]: conspiracy theory.
[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't think so. OK, this is
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: a headline from New York Times
[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: in JD Vance's backyard
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: conspiracy theories about
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: migrants and voting
[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: abound. OK, now what
[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: they're going to try to do is
[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: say, well, yes, maybe there
[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: was a problem at the border,
[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: but this isn't going to
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: lead to people that are
[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_00]: actually going to go and
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: vote. And so again, the
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: press has actually tried.
[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the Washington Post
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Republicans flood TV with
[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: misleading ads about
[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration and the border.
[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And so they actually have
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_00]: gone out of their way to
[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: dismiss the claim by
[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Donald Trump that
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_00]: immigrate immigrants are
[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_00]: having an impact on jobs
[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and that immigrants are
[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_00]: being brought here so
[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_00]: that they can ultimately
[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: vote in the time story
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: about these conspiracy
[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_00]: theories. The paper takes
[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: aim according to Richard
[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Lowry's article that I'm
[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: reading right now says they
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: take aim that Democrats are
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: bringing undocumented
[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_00]: immigrants into the country
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_00]: to vote for their party.
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: According to this report,
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: according to Rich Lowry, the
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_00]: notion quote and this is a
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_00]: quote now from the Times
[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_00]: strains even the
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_00]: imagination envisioning
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Democrats in Washington
[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_00]: circumventing border rules,
[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: officials and infrastructure
[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: to allow undocumented
[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_00]: immigrants into the country
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_00]: help them settle and then
[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: cast ballots legally or not.
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, as Rich Lowry says, three
[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: fourths of that sentence
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: doesn't strain the
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: imagination. It accurately
[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: describes what has been
[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_00]: happening every day at the
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: border under the Biden
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_00]: administration. And yet
[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_00]: there is always this idea
[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_00]: that well, yes, but this
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_00]: isn't so that they can
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: cast votes. But if you read
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: a little bit further in the
[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_00]: article, it also then says,
[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_00]: again, this is a quote, more
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_00]: than a dozen cities and
[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_00]: towns mostly in deep blue
[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: areas allow foreign
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_00]: nationals that would be
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_00]: illegal immigrants to vote
[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_00]: in local elections,
[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_00]: regardless of their
[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration status, which
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: state and local leaders say
[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_00]: as warranted because un
[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: authorized immigrants pay
[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: taxes at levels comparable
[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_00]: to those of citizens and
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: strengthen their economies.
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: That is the argument I tell
[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: you, you're going to be
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: hearing. That is, these are
[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: individuals, even if
[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_00]: they're here illegally,
[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: they're paying taxes so
[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_00]: they should be allowed to
[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_00]: vote to figure out where
[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_00]: their taxes are going to go.
[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's how you're
[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: going to eventually have
[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_00]: the opportunity for all
[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_00]: these individuals who are
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_00]: here illegally to
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_00]: eventually be on the
[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: voter rolls. Of course,
[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_00]: many of them are on
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_00]: there right now because
[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_00]: guess what? Many states,
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: if you're here illegally,
[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00]: you can still get a
[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: driver's license. And what
[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_00]: does it take in most states
[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: to actually register to
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: vote? Well, driver's license
[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_00]: is usually all that you
[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: really need in this
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_00]: particular place.
[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So again, the argument
[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: that is being made about
[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_00]: the fact that these people
[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_00]: are being brought in and
[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_00]: they're having an impact on
[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_00]: jobs, I don't think has
[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_00]: been debunked. I don't
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: think it's a conspiracy
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: theory. I think it's easy
[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_00]: to prove in terms of supply
[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and demand. And a lot
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_00]: of people know that the
[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_00]: argument that they're
[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_00]: also being brought in here
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: with the idea that
[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_00]: eventually they could vote
[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: seems to be verified if
[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_00]: nothing else by what you're
[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: starting to see in some of
[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: the blue states. Now, this
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_00]: is one place where Donald
[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump doesn't do himself
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_00]: any favor, because then
[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_00]: oftentimes he'll make the
[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_00]: claim that immigrant voters,
[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_00]: illegal immigrant voters
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: are stealing his elections
[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and stealing rightful
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: victories. And sometimes
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_00]: even makes the statement
[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: that they're taking 100
[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: percent of the jobs. Okay,
[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_00]: that's where again, his
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: hyperbole does not suit
[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: him well. But first of all,
[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_00]: let's recognize that if
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: you even go to something
[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_00]: like the 2013 left wing
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Center for American
[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Progress, it issued this
[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: report, quote, supporting
[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: real immigration reform
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_00]: that contains a pathway
[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: to citizenship for our
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: nation's 11 million
[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_00]: undocumented immigrants is
[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_00]: the only way to maintain
[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: electoral strength in the
[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: future. So a left of center
[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: group says, first of all, it's
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: not 11 million, you know
[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_00]: that and I know that. But
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: nevertheless, that is the
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: case. But then again to say
[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: that some of these
[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: individuals are taking all
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: the jobs, probably is a
[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_00]: little bit of an extreme.
[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But there are still some
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: pretty good pieces of
[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00]: evidence to actually
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: suggest that they're
[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_00]: taking many of those, but
[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_00]: they may not all be
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_00]: immigrants. Donald Trump
[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_00]: again argues that
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: migrants are stealing jobs
[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and even says that 100% of
[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_00]: the total jobs created are
[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_00]: going to those people that
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: are here illegally. Again,
[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_00]: this is not where his
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: hyperbole serves him well.
[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But he's partially right
[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_00]: if you go and look at
[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the Bureau of Labor
[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Statistics. By the way, I've
[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_00]: got to just give you a
[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_00]: disclaimer here. Last night
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_00]: there was an interview with
[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_00]: the Secretary of Commerce.
[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And at one point they
[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: quoted some statistics from
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_00]: the Bureau of Labor
[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Statistics. She said,
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what that is.
[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, you have
[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_00]: got to be kidding me.
[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You are in the Commerce
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Department. You are the
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Secretary of Commerce
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and you don't know what
[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: the BLS is. I mean, I know
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: some of you don't, but
[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_00]: you're not actually on a
[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_00]: cabinet level position
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_00]: in the Commerce
[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Department anyway. But again
[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: if you go and look at
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: the Bureau of Labor
[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Statistics and again,
[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Rich Lawry does you
[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: the work. If you look
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_00]: at the BLS table 7A,
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_00]: you will see that a very
[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: large share of the jobs
[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: since the pandemic have
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: gone to people who are
[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_00]: foreign born.
[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So if somebody could get
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: to Donald Trump and say
[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: don't say illegal immigrants
[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: but just say a very high
[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: percentage of people
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_00]: getting these jobs
[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: are actually people that
[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_00]: are foreign born,
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: some of whom probably
[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_00]: are here illegally.
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it shows very
[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: quickly that again
[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_00]: what we are dealing with
[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_00]: is something that is
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_00]: affecting jobs and could
[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_00]: eventually affect all sorts
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: of other aspects.
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably right now affecting
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: the economy, affecting
[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_00]: job creation and all of
[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_00]: the rest, but nevertheless
[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and certainly wages are
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_00]: being affected there.
[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: One last point we've been
[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_00]: picking on The New York
[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Times about time to pick
[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_00]: on The Washington Post as
[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: well. The New York Post
[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_00]: also takes on some of
[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: these Republican ads on
[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration in which
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_00]: The Washington Post says
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_00]: taken as a whole, the ads
[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_00]: convey an unrealistic
[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_00]: portrait of the border as
[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_00]: being overrun and
[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_00]: inaccurately characterizing
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: immigrants generally is a
[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_00]: threat of which there is
[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_00]: no evidence.
[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Now given the influx of
[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_00]: people over the last
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_00]: three and a half years,
[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the word influx
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_00]: probably is pretty good.
[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But again it goes on to
[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: say that these ads
[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_00]: create what they call
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_00]: a false impression
[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_00]: that migrants are flooding
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_00]: unchecked into the United
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: States.
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I love
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Rich Lowry.
[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_00]: A false impression.
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_00]: What would it take you
[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_00]: editors at The Washington
[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Post when you see
[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_00]: pictures and numbers
[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and diagrams and I've
[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: shown charts on this program
[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_00]: of people flooding into
[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_00]: this country, how much
[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_00]: would it have to be
[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_00]: an influx before you
[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_00]: would finally say,
[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: well that's maybe not
[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: a false impression,
[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_00]: that's probably an
[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_00]: accurate impression of
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_00]: what is happening.
[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think what you're
[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_00]: going to see over the next
[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_00]: a few weeks,
[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe even two months
[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: is an attempt to address
[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_00]: the immigration issue by
[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_00]: simply saying it's a
[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_00]: conspiracy theory.
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't believe what you see
[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_00]: on television.
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't believe all the
[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: images.
[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't believe all the
[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_00]: statistics.
[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't even think that
[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_00]: this is a problem that
[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_00]: has anything to do with
[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris because
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: this is one of the
[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_00]: vulnerabilities.
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I would have to say that
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_00]: she and the administration
[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_00]: have the Biden-Harris
[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_00]: administration, now the
[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris-Wall's campaign
[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_00]: and it seems to me that
[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_00]: the media strategy
[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_00]: pretty simple.
[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just all a conspiracy
[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_00]: theory and you don't need
[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_00]: to believe it and you
[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: don't need to pay attention
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_00]: to it.
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see the word
[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration was hardly
[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_00]: mentioned over the last
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_00]: three nights.
[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I doubt it will be
[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_00]: mentioned much tonight
[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: but we'll see.
[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll take a break.
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Come back with some final
[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_00]: comments right after this.
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You're listening to
[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Point of View.
[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Your listener-supported
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_02]: source for truth.
[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: That goes again, let me
[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_00]: just mention that tomorrow
[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_00]: is our weekend edition.
[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll have Kelly Shackleford,
[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Dr. Murrow Matthews, one
[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_00]: of the articles that we're
[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: ready to post right after
[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the program closes today
[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_00]: is on the changing
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: of the Supreme Court
[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and it has to do with
[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the survey which was
[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_00]: commissioned actually by
[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_00]: First Liberty Institute
[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: but also reported by
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_00]: the Wall Street Journal
[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_00]: that after now weeks
[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_00]: of talking about the need
[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_00]: to change the Supreme Court
[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_00]: and after weeks of talking
[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_00]: about wanting to have term
[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_00]: limits and talking about
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: having all of the various
[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_00]: kinds of changes being
[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_00]: proposed by Chuck Schumer
[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and Joe Biden
[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_00]: and of course even tonight
[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_00]: by Kamala Harris,
[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Americans still oppose
[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_00]: making those kinds of
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_00]: changes.
[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: One of the other articles
[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_00]: we will be posting is
[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: about Robert F. Kennedy
[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Jr. Looks like he is
[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_00]: going to end his campaign.
[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Well fundraising has
[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: certainly not gone
[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_00]: the way he would hope
[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_00]: nor has he been able
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: to really connect.
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And what does that mean
[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_00]: for the election?
[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like he might
[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_00]: endorse Donald Trump
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: but we will see where
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: that takes us.
[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_00]: We also have a very good
[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: piece by Dr. Merrill Matthews
[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_00]: that was in the Hill.
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you ready for
[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Nalix?
[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Nalix
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess that's how
[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_00]: you would say it.
[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And again that really
[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_00]: gets into another piece
[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_00]: that he wrote in terms
[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_00]: of some of the economic
[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_00]: plans being proposed.
[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And then since we did
[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_00]: mention immigration,
[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: a very good piece
[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_00]: that's come out from
[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: of our friends at ABC News
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: of all places.
[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_00]: They were saying that
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_00]: really we do have an
[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_00]: urgent issue at the
[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration issues
[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and in particular
[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: at the border
[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_00]: because we've lost track
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_00]: of all these
[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: unaccompanied minors.
[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_00]: What a surprise.
[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Would never have
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_00]: guessed that, right?
[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And so we really
[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_00]: have a lot to cover
[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_00]: tomorrow.
[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll also be talking
[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_00]: about Penedexia's
[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_00]: commentary on school choice.
[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Some of those are
[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_00]: issues that will
[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: come up tonight
[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: in the speech
[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_00]: by Kamala Harris
[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_00]: so we will see
[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_00]: where that takes us then.
[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But I thought it
[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: ended with a piece
[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_00]: by Star Parker
[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and a good friend
[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_00]: of this ministry
[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_00]: for many years
[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_00]: in which it reminds us
[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_00]: that this nation,
[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_00]: she says, needs
[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_00]: a great reawakening.
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Now let me encourage
[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_00]: you as you go
[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_00]: to our website today
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: to find some of the
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: material.
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you want to
[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: connect up with Jackie
[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Deeson.
[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: If you go
[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and go further down,
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_00]: you'll see my
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_00]: viewpoints commentary
[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_00]: on the Take It Down
[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Act, which we've
[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_00]: talked about before.
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_00]: There's elections central
[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_00]: and then there's the
[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Pray for America
[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and one of the things
[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_00]: we posted last week
[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: was about the need
[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_00]: for revival.
[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_00]: The one we posted
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: in Centurion Box
[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_00]: this week
[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_00]: was about the need
[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_00]: for really a
[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_00]: reformation
[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and in some respects
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_00]: it fits very well
[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_00]: with some of the things
[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_00]: that Star Parker
[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_00]: is talking about
[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and she reminds us
[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_00]: that over the years
[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_00]: 1934 to 1961
[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_00]: the British historian
[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Arnold Toinby
[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_00]: published his
[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_00]: 12 volume
[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: A Study of History.
[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just really
[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_00]: an encyclopedic history
[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_00]: of that
[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and he studied
[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_00]: the rise and fall
[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_00]: of 23 different
[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_00]: civilizations
[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_00]: and his conclusions
[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_00]: are something we've
[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: talked about on this
[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_00]: program so many times
[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: before
[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: was that great
[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: civilizations die
[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_00]: not from external causes
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_00]: but from internal ones.
[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Now sometimes they
[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_00]: commit suicide
[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_00]: and die.
[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Other times
[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: they just get so weak
[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_00]: that they get taken over
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: but a strong civilization
[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: does actually
[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_00]: last for a long time.
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_00]: A weak civilization
[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: either
[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: dissembles itself
[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_00]: collapses
[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: crumbles on itself
[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: or is taken over
[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: and so Toinby
[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_00]: concluded in the words
[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_00]: of one journalist
[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_00]: that civilizations
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_00]: start to decay
[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_00]: when they lose
[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: their moral fiber
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and if there's
[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_00]: one thing we recognize
[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_00]: that the civilizations
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: don't continue forever
[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and you might want to
[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_00]: find the commentaries
[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_00]: are wrote about two weeks ago
[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: on the various cycles
[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_00]: that we've talked about.
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_00]: We are actually going
[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: to have a booklet
[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: for those of you that
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_00]: have joined with us
[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_00]: at the truth team level
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_00]: for a dollar day
[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_00]: thirty dollars a month
[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_00]: you receive the outlook
[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_00]: magazine
[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_00]: you'll also receive
[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: the booklets
[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and the one that will
[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_00]: be coming out
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: in about another month
[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_00]: it isn't printed yet
[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_00]: is on the cycles
[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: of history
[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and we can see that
[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and she's talking
[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_00]: about that today.
[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Well
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: star park goes on to say
[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_00]: it is the business
[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_00]: of politicians
[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_00]: to aspire to power
[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_00]: to tell us that our problems
[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_00]: are because of the other party
[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and to divert our attention
[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_00]: from where we should be
[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: that is on ourselves.
[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_00]: She said if we so focus
[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe I believe
[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: we would conclude
[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_00]: that it is hard
[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: to see a future for a nation
[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_00]: with fewer and fewer children
[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_00]: greater and greater
[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_00]: government
[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and greater and greater debt
[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and less and less
[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: economic growth
[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_00]: that I think
[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_00]: is a very accurate
[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_00]: illustration.
[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: She gives you some
[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: of the population
[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_00]: statistics
[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and you've heard them before
[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: of course we
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: spent some time
[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_00]: just recently
[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_00]: even talking about that
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: in terms of
[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_00]: the need to have more children
[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_00]: but she says for a population
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: to hold steady
[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and not to shrink
[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_00]: the average fertility rate
[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_00]: must be two point
[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_00]: eight children
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_00]: per woman
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: we've fallen well
[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: below that
[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_00]: to one point six seven
[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and probably will never
[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_00]: increase past that.
[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_00]: One measure of this picture
[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_00]: she says is the ratio
[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_00]: of the size
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_00]: of the working age
[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_00]: population
[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_00]: 25 to 64
[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_00]: to the size
[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_00]: of the population
[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_00]: 65 and older
[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and back in the 1950s
[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_00]: the ratio was six
[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_00]: to one
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_00]: in 2004
[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_00]: it was four to one
[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and now the estimates
[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_00]: are that it is
[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_00]: probably two point nine
[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_00]: to one
[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and really by the middle
[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_00]: of this
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: century
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: could be two point
[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_00]: two to one
[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: that is not good
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_00]: when you are trying to support
[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_00]: that many people
[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and you don't have that many
[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_00]: people beneath them
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_00]: doing work
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and of course also
[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_00]: interesting enough
[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_00]: in nineteen eighty
[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_00]: six percent
[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_00]: of forty year olds
[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_00]: had never been married
[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_00]: last time we
[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_00]: have been able to get a number
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_00]: for that twenty twenty one
[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_00]: was twenty five percent
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and so then of course
[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_00]: we get to those numbers
[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_00]: we have a national debt
[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_00]: of thirty five trillion
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_00]: dollars
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_00]: the federal debt held
[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_00]: by the public back in nineteen
[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: eighty was only twenty five
[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_00]: percent of GDP
[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_00]: now it's almost a hundred
[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_00]: percent or though if you
[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_00]: go look at the dead clock
[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_00]: it's more than a hundred
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_00]: percent depends on
[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_00]: which number you use
[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and also if you want
[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_00]: economic growth
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_00]: in the economy
[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_00]: in the past
[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_00]: it was at least three
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_00]: to four percent
[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_00]: we're going to be lucky
[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_00]: if it's two percent
[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think it just
[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_00]: illustrates again
[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_00]: that we are a nation
[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_00]: without children
[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_00]: without marriage
[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_00]: with expanding government
[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and debt
[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and in a sense
[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_00]: a nation
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_00]: if we want to paraphrase
[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_00]: the historian Arnold Toinby
[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_00]: committing suicide
[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_00]: so she says pray for a
[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_00]: reawakening
[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_00]: more and more this
[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_00]: next couple of weeks
[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_00]: we're going to be
[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_00]: trying to focus on
[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_00]: both in the broadcast
[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and even in some of the
[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_00]: outlook magazine articles
[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and some of my commentaries
[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: on the kind of challenges
[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_00]: this country faces
[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_00]: no matter who we elect
[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_00]: to the presidency
[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_00]: no matter who we elect
[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_00]: to Congress
[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_00]: now there is an importance
[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_00]: to who you elect
[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: because some
[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_00]: congressmen
[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_00]: some presidents
[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_00]: can do more harm than good
[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_00]: so certainly you would want
[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_00]: to have some that could
[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_00]: do no harm to use
[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_00]: one of the phrases out of
[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_00]: medicine
[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_00]: but I also recognize
[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_00]: that some of these are
[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_00]: almost intractable
[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_00]: intractable problems
[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think Star Parker
[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_00]: has reminded us
[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_00]: of a few of those
[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_00]: so again the nation needs
[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_00]: a great reawakening
[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_00]: by and large what we're
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_00]: really trying to say is
[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_00]: the nation needs God
[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: and more importantly
[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_00]: it needs a revival
[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_00]: it needs a reformation
[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_00]: it needs a great awakening
[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: if indeed
[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_00]: this is not the end
[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_00]: of the empire known
[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_00]: as America
[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_00]: it's a somber way to end
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_00]: but it is a reminder
[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_00]: that no matter what you hear
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_00]: tonight
[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_00]: no matter what you hear
[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_00]: on the campaign trail
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_00]: over the next couple of months
[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_00]: the real issues
[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_00]: as we've said before
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_00]: are more cultural
[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_00]: than political
[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_00]: culture is upstream
[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_00]: of politics
[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_00]: politics is downstream
[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_00]: from culture
[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_00]: we certainly need to be
[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_00]: paying attention to who we vote for
[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_00]: but at the same time
[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_00]: the biggest issues
[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_00]: are more spiritual and cultural
[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's why we're going to be addressing those
[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_00]: over the next few weeks as well
[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_00]: first of all I want to thank Megan
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_00]: for help
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_00]: actually producing the program
[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and engineering the program
[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and making sure everything
[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_00]: came in on time
[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Steve thank you
[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: for producing the program
[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I hope that if you'd like to know more
[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_00]: about what we've been talking about today
[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_00]: you visit the website
[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_00]: pointofview.net
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and see you back here tomorrow
[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_00]: right here on point of view
[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_01]: the Bible tells us
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: not to worry
[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and yet there is
[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of worrying stuff
[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_01]: in our world today
[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_01]: thankfully the Bible doesn't stop
[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_01]: at telling us
[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: not to worry
[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_01]: God gives us
[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_01]: a next step
[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_01]: he says we need to pray
[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_01]: but sometimes
[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_01]: even knowing what to pray
[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_01]: can be difficult
[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and that is why Point of View
[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_01]: has relaunched
[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_01]: our Pray for America movement
[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_01]: a series of weekly emails
[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: to guide you in prayer
[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_01]: for our nation
[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_01]: each week you'll receive a
[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_01]: brief update about a current issue
[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: affecting Americans
[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: along with a written prayer
[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_01]: that you can easily share
[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_01]: with others
[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_01]: we'll also include a short
[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_01]: free resource for you
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[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_01]: so you can learn more
[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: about the issue at hand
[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: will you commit
[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: to pray for America
[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: go to pointofview.com
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[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_01]: let's pray together
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