Point of View August 22, 2024 – Hour 2 : Latest and Upcoming Issues

Point of View August 22, 2024 – Hour 2 : Latest and Upcoming Issues

Thursday, August 22, 2024

In the second hour, Kerby shares his thoughts on the presidential race as well as national revival, and coming problems.

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[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Hour 2

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_00]: the fourth and final night for the Democratic National Convention out of Chicago. And you

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: would hope, I think, if you were a Democrat that they do a little better of organizing

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_00]: and controlling their program. On Monday, as we pointed out before, they had all sorts

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_00]: of things happening before even Hillary Clinton came on the stage. And then it took

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_00]: a long time then to eventually get first Joe Biden and then of course Joe Biden on.

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I know for those of you listening in the West Coast or Alaska,

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: you're going that wasn't that late. Well yes, but it was nearly midnight East Coast time.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And I suspect there were a lot of people in bed when the current president of the United States

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: was given a time to speak when I don't think there were just a whole lot of people watching.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And given the fact that the estimates are that viewership in the Democratic

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_00]: conventions down about 22%, which surprises me, I thought there'd probably be more people tuning

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: in because they want to know a little bit more about Tim Walsy spoke last night or

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris he's speaking tonight. But nevertheless, so Monday was not real successful

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_00]: if for no other reason than, I don't think they treated the president that well,

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_00]: but you can have your own opinion on that Tuesday. Many think that meant a little better.

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's where you had, of course, Barack Obama and Michelle Obama. You had Governor Pritzker

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_00]: and a number of others and overall probably a little better. And then last night here we go again.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You had Bill Clinton who was supposed to give a short message and instead went on twice

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_00]: as long as he was supposed to go. Nancy Pelosi speaks transportation secretary Pete

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Buttigieg says, and again we're getting close to what 1130 almost midnight East Coast time

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: when you finally have the opportunity for the vice presidential nominee, Governor Tim Walsy,

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: to explain who he is. And again, I can say a lot about the substance. The amount of just,

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what, sometimes you don't want to call it line. I think some of these people

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_00]: actually believe what they say is true. I don't know how they could actually believe

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: that. But one example, which we've talked about this week is the secretary of transportation,

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Pete Buttigieg came out a week or two ago and argued that the crime rate was higher under

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Donald Trump than it is under Joe Biden. And I just knew that would come up in the convention

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and he did talk about it last night. And if you find yourself saying, well, what's the answer

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_00]: to that? That's one of the reasons I do these viewpoints commentaries, because my viewpoints

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: commentary really was an attempt to address that issue. And so two days ago on August 20th,

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I have a commentary on crime explosion in which I point out that yes, there are two

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: ways we sometimes measure crime. One is the FBI's national incident based reporting system.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But it only counts the individuals that report to the police a crime. But at a time when

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_00]: you've had the defunding of police movement and there are fewer cops on the beat. And then

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_00]: first of all, they don't catch as many crimes. Number two, the individuals who actually have

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: a crime perpetrated against them are less likely to report that. And so the other way

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: in which we measure that is through the national crime victimization survey. When

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: you look at that, it shows what you all know. And that is every survey that I've

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: seen, the latest Gallup survey says 92% of Republicans are convinced that crime is increasing.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: A majority of Democrats 58% also believe that. And of course last night said with complete

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: certainty that indeed crime is going down. And as I said before, that doesn't even

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_00]: fit your own personal experiences. If you go into a CVS or a Walgreens, you see everything

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_00]: behind glass, you hear everybody talking about crime in their neighborhood. You

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: know that crime rate has gone up. But that's not what you heard last night. Tim

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Walser, of course, spends a fair amount of time saying, for example, that the future

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump administration, if they are elected Donald Trump and certainly the other individuals

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: that are part of his administration actually are going to, for example, gut

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: social security when the president didn't do anything of the sort in the four years

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: when he was president. And certainly has said that he doesn't want anyone to touch

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_00]: social security. So whether it's JD Vance or Donald Trump, all of them have said that

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: isn't even something that is being seriously considered. And again, I think for a

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_00]: person with a little bit of discernment has to recognize the first time we

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: started hearing Democrats accusing Republicans of trying to gut social

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_00]: security goes back to when Jimmy Carter was running against Ronald Reagan. Now

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: that goes back 42 years. Okay, in the last 42 years, do you have any evidence of

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Republicans trying to gut social security? You have lots of evidence of people

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: claiming that. Do you have any evidence of it actually being done? And of course,

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: the answer to that is no. Another one is that this administration, if indeed

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the Trump administration would actually want to actually hurt the middle

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_00]: class. Well, again, if you want to talk about who benefited from the Trump

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: tax cuts, a very high percentage of people in the middle class benefited

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: from that and the position of certainly Joe Biden. And of course, we don't

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_00]: know where her position is, but I'm pretty sure the position of Kamala

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris has been that they do not want to renew those tax cuts. So the

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: taxes will go up for the middle class. The taxes will go up for all sorts

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_00]: of individuals. You can go from point after point after point and these

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: things are said and then occasionally somebody does a fact check on him, but

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: most of the time, the average American just says, Oh, well, that's another

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: reason why I need to vote against Donald Trump and JD Vance and all the

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: rest. And of course, that's what unfolded right before your very

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: eyes tonight. Of course, you're going to have Kamala Harris speak. And I

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: think the question you have to ask is the one I asked yesterday. And that

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: is, you have been in charge for three and a half years, almost four years.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And when Kamala Harris has a phrase she uses quite often that on day one,

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do. Well, you've had since day one started in January of

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: 2001. And so you have had three and a half years. And when

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Democrats like, of course, we've had a chance to hear Bill Clinton, Barack

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Obama and others say that we are going to do this. Democrats have been in

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: control of the White House from basically the start of 2009 January 2009

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_00]: till now with the exception of four years of Donald Trump. So essentially

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_00]: if you want to make that 16 years about 15 and a half years, 16 years

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_00]: just rounded up 12 of the 16 years Democrats have been in control of the

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: White House and have always had at least one in sometimes under Barack

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Obama, two of the branches of government, the House and the Senate

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: that are Democrat. And you did not do some of these things. What makes

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_00]: you think that you're going to do them now? So those are going to be, I

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_00]: think some of the questions that I think a wise and discerning person

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: might ask as he or she watches what is going to be said tonight. Of course,

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: we'll have a great opportunity to evaluate some of that tomorrow. We'll

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: have Kelly Shackleford with us and Dr. Merrill Matthews. But when we come

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: back, what about the threat to democracy? This very good piece that

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: came out from the editors of the Wall Street Journal. We'll talk

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: about next right after this. This is Viewpoints with Kirby

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Anderson. Revenge porn and publishing of deep fake abuse are a

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: growing problem on social media. That is why US senators from both

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: parties have sponsored a bill known as Take It Down Act. It would

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_00]: criminalize the publication of non consensual intimate image

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: abuse and require social media platforms to remove such items

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: immediately. On my radio program, we've encouraged listeners to

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_00]: contact their two senators about the legislation. Recently I had the

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: bill's author, Senator Ted Cruz on my program to explain why such

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: legislation was necessary. He said in recent years we witnessed a

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: stunning increase in exploitative sexual material

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: online largely due to bad actors taking advantage of newer

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_00]: technologies like generative artificial intelligence. Many

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: women and girls are forever harmed by these crimes having

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: to live with being victimized again and again. Democratic

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Senator Jackie Rosen further explained as artificial

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: intelligence continues to grow and become more prevalent in

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: daily life, we must prevent it from being used to produce

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_00]: non consensual intimate images. Republican Senator Cynthia

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Loomis acknowledged the benefits and dangers of AI but said

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: artificial intelligence is the future and provides an infinite

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_00]: number of possibilities of how this new technology can be used

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_00]: to improve lives around not only in this country but across the

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: entire globe. With any new industry comes the need to

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_00]: ensure that it's not being used by bad actors and AI is no

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_00]: different. We need this bipartisan legislation to deal with this

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: growing problem on social media. I'm Kirby Anderson and

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[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_02]: listening to Point of View your listener supported source

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: for truth. Mac once again, let me just if I can point you to

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: our second article on the website here, which is actually

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_00]: written by the editors of the Wall Street Journal and it's

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: entitled Democrats and Democratic Norms but the subtitle is I

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_00]: think very interesting. The editors say there's a reason

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: voters don't see Trump as a unique threat to democracy.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Now to understand some of this, you have to come back to

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: a psychological term that we've talked about from time to

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: time and that is projection. You've seen a situation

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_00]: sometimes where people will accuse you of something that

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: actually they're doing and I think there is a possibility

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: that that has been taking place because one of the themes

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_00]: running this week through the Democratic National

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Convention is democracy and that we have a great threat

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: to democracy. Lest you wonder about that Monday night,

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_00]: we heard President Joe Biden say, we saved democracy in

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_00]: 2020 and now we must save it again in 2025, 24. And so again,

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you have to realize that the argument is, is that

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: by not allowing Donald Trump to be the president, we've

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: saved democracy. Okay, let's set aside the fact that

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: we're not a democracy, we're a republic, but I get what

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: they're trying to get at here. And yet interestingly

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: enough, they've been hammering this for some time. And the

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_00]: press has gone along with this Washington Post, for

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: example, democracy dies in darkness. You've heard those

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: phrases as well. And yet the polls so far show that

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: voters are kind of split on that about half think

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: that the Democrats are the threat to democracy, half

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: think the Republicans are and the editors say, well,

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_00]: part of that is partnership partisanship. You know,

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_00]: you tend to think your people are good and the other

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: party is bad. But that's not really the case, because

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_00]: over the last eight years, Democrats have themselves

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: used the imperative of defeating Donald Trump as an

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: excuse they say to break democratic norms. Hence

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: the title Democrats and democratic norms. They give

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_00]: you lots of examples. I'm going to just give you

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the highlights. But I would encourage you maybe to

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_00]: take the time to read these three pages which go

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_00]: into pretty good detail. And the first is, of course,

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: the suspicion in the 2016 election that Donald

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump was winning because of Russia, Russian

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_00]: collusion. And they give you a quote from Adam Schiff.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You can remember all the things that we had to

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: endure for the better part of the four years that

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Donald Trump was president, all arguing that

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_00]: indeed that was due to Russian a collusion at

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_00]: the same period of time. There was also this

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_00]: persistent democratic claim of voter suppression.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: In this case, they don't quote from Adam Schiff.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: They quote from Stacey Abrams who claimed, for

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: example, that the 2018 loss in Georgia was stolen

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: and I won and all of the rest. And of course,

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: you even have Kamala Harris who was arguing

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_00]: that that is indeed the case. And so that's

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: why interestingly enough, the Democrats picked

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Stacey Abrams to give the State of the Union

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: response in 2019. And then it was even floated

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: as a possible presidential candidate or at least

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: a running mate with Joe Biden. And of course,

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris made a point of let me say this

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_00]: loud and clear without voter suppression.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Stacey Abrams would be the governor of Georgia.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So the question that I think the press would

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_00]: ask and they will never ask is do you still

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: believe that? But it's again another

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: illustration of that. Then, of course,

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_00]: he goes into the editors go into a whole discussion

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_00]: of the fact that Democrats want to pass HR

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: one. We've talked about this before.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_00]: This would be an attempt to basically

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: nationalize various state laws

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: and state requirements about voting.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: First of all, I think it at its face is

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: unconstitutional, but that's not the case

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: because the goal would be then to allow

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_00]: mail in ballots to eliminate any kind of

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_00]: deadlines, possibly for mail in ballots or to

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_00]: radically change them to allow even more

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: ballot harvesting and the rest.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And when somebody raises some questions about

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: whether or not that even is wise, constitutional

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_00]: or whether that would lead to more voters

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_00]: integrity issues and the rest, you have Joe

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Biden saying, well, do you want to be on the

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: side of John Lewis or on the side of

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Bill Connor? Do you want to be on the side of

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis?

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So again, not even a fair response to

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_00]: this is something we need to do for these

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_00]: reasons. And HR one so important

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_00]: that as Kelly Shackleford has pointed out

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: before, if indeed Democrats get a clear

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: control of the United States Senate,

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_00]: they're even worth willing to get rid of

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: this 60 vote filibuster rule in order

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_00]: to pass that.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, since I mentioned Kelly

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Shackleford, there's one more that comes to

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: mind and that is all of a sudden now,

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want to reform

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_00]: the Supreme Court.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: In all of a sudden they're talking about it.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_00]: They've been talking about or implying it

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_00]: for some time now both Joe Biden

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: and Kamala Harris are calling for term limits

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_00]: on justices.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Chuck Schumer wants to restrict the court's

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: jurisdiction, wants to impose

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_00]: an ethic set of rules that Congress will

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: oversee over the judiciary

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and on and on and on.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And so again, the point that the editors

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: are making is that Democrats have broken

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: norms so many times.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And one last one, of course, is obvious

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: one, and that is even willing to have

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: the first former president to be

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_00]: criminally indicted and then some of

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: the actions by special counsel Jack

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Smith and the rest.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And so again, the conclusion that they

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: come to is look, Americans

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_00]: who are going to vote for Donald Trump

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_00]: aren't aching for dictatorship, they

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_00]: say. They're looking for the alternative

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and they don't see Democrats as

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: sinless guardians of US institutions.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And so again, when Democrats lose,

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_00]: they want to escalate their demands

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and the filibuster override voting

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_00]: laws in 50 states abolish the

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: electoral college restructure the

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Supreme Court grant DC statehood

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00]: by trying to add at least two more

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: safe democratic seats and on and on

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and on. The list goes on.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a good piece to remind us

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: that even though this week there's

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: been an attempt to kind of sell the

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_00]: American people on the fact that if

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_00]: you elect Donald Trump, you're going

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_00]: to ruin the country as we know it.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And this would be a danger to

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: democracy. That message doesn't seem

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: to be sticking at least yet.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: One other piece is our first article

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: that I've posted here and that one

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_00]: comes from Rich Lowry.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris is way for thin

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and he does an interesting statement

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: because he says, you know, it's

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_00]: appropriate that Kamala Harris is

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: from the town of Oakland, California,

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_00]: which is famously been said there's

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_00]: no there there having grown up in

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_00]: the Bay Area. I can remember that

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: story. But nevertheless, he says

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: it's hard to think of another

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_00]: presidential nominee who felt so

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: superficial, not just campaign

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_00]: tactic, but a reality.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he talks about on the

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Democratic side, Barack Obama on

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_00]: the Republican side, Donald Trump.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we think about those

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_00]: individuals, they were instigators

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: of a movement, whether it's the

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: rise of hope and change or whether

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_00]: it's MAGA. That's not something

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_00]: that fits Kamala Harris.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no real distinct mode of

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_00]: politics, whereas both Barack

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Obama and Donald Trump had a feel

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_00]: of something we hadn't seen before.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_00]: There aren't any signature issues

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_00]: which with, of course, Barack

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Obama was everything from the

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Affordable Care Act to ending

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the Iraq war, Donald Trump

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_00]: building the wall and a variety

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_00]: of others. And he says both

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Barack Obama in 2008 and Donald

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump in 2016 toppled

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_00]: establishment candidates in epic

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: nomination battles. Harris had

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: her nomination handed to her.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And so the point is, who is

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_00]: this woman? He says she's woke,

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_00]: but she doesn't embrace being

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: woke. Her policies are

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_00]: socialistic, although she's not

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: a self declared socialist.

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_00]: She's a tough law and order

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_00]: prosecutor, except when she's

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_00]: not. She's not a party

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: institutionalist like say Bob

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Dole was or later John McCain

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and she's not a Bill Clinton

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_00]: who rose from as he said,

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_00]: relative obscurity based on his

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_00]: unbelievable verbal acuity

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: charm and ability to really

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: survive every particular

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: scandal. Her signature phrases

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: are banal. Are you just falling

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_00]: out of a coconut tree or

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: vacuous unburdened by what has

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: been? And so he says at the

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: end, can Camilla Harris win?

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the whole point of

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the exercise. Just like Joe

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Biden before she's merely a

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_00]: vehicle. She could be seen as

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: a default candidate. Biden was

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: not Bernie Sanders and Harris

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_00]: is not Joe Biden at a time when

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: she happened to be the only

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_00]: plausible alternative to Joe

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Biden. She could be the next

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_00]: president. What happens tonight

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: will be part of what people

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_00]: will know for her how well she

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: does or does not do. I think

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: we'll depend on the most

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: important speech maybe she

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_00]: will ever give there will be

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: probably more people watching

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: tonight than have watched the

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_00]: last three nights and we'll

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_00]: see where it goes. And of

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: course, we'll be talking about

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: it on our Friday weekend

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: edition. We come back though.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_00]: There's some other issues we

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: need to put on the table. A

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: little bit of fact checking at

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: least on the issue of

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration, which was a word

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: mentioned very rarely this

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: week. And yet it's something

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: that certainly is very

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_00]: significant in the minds of

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: many voters. Inflation,

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration, Israel, the three

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_00]: eyes still are very

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_00]: significant. And we'll talk

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_00]: about especially the immigration

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_00]: issue right after these

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: important messages. Where does

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_01]: moral truth come from?

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: According to 58 percent of

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Americans, individuals

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: determine moral truth. A

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_01]: quarter of generation Z says

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: society determines moral

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: truth and morality can even

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: change over time. Only 42

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_01]: percent of Americans believe

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_01]: that truth comes from God.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about you, but I

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: find these numbers extremely

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[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_01]: crisis of truth. And that

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_01]: crisis has consequences. Look

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: at society. Evil is called

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[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: People with biblical beliefs

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: are called bigots or worse.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: They're canceled, but there is

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[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_01]: here again is Kirby Anderson.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Back once again, let's if we

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_00]: can maybe just think about

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: some of the real challenges

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: that the Harris

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: waltz of campaign really is

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: going to have to address.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_00]: These are significant

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_00]: challenges and of course one

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: that I mentioned just a

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: minute ago would be the

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_00]: economy and inflation and

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: that whole concern. And so

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: in some respects, I think

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris believes she's

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: dealt with it by last

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Friday giving a speech about

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_00]: price gouging and calling for

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_00]: price control. We may not

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: think that's a very good

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_00]: idea. I give you in one of

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_00]: my viewpoints commentaries

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: this week some very good

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_00]: reasons why that is a

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: really bad idea. But

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: nevertheless, you will have

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_00]: a chance to read that.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe that actually is

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_00]: coming up tomorrow so you

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: can read that. But again,

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_00]: those are some concerns

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_00]: that we can obviously

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: feel that she needs to

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_00]: address. But what about

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_00]: this issue of immigration,

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: which oftentimes has been

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the number one issue or

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: other times the number two

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_00]: issue? What can you do

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_00]: about that? And you can

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_00]: certainly deny that you

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_00]: were not the borders are.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think most people

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: sort of know what that's

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_00]: about. And you can

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: certainly recognize that

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe they would be a

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_00]: possibility, especially if

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_00]: you're in the mainstream

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_00]: press and you want to make

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: sure that Donald Trump is

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_00]: not elected and you want to

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: make sure that whoever the

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Democratic nominee is,

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_00]: whether it's Joe Biden or

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris is elected,

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: what could you possibly do?

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And the answer is you can

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_00]: refer to anybody who believes

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: that we have a problem at

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: the border as a conspiracy

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: theory. Now I'm sure there

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: are a few of you that

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: roll in your eyes saying

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: you can't believe that.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, again, look at what

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_00]: they were able to do for

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: months to try to assure

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: us that there was no

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: problem with the mental

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_00]: acuity of Joe Biden.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I think if you could

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_00]: an opportunity, at least

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: for the low information

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: voter to say, really, all

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: these things about migrants

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: are nothing more than a

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_00]: conspiracy theory.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't think so. OK, this is

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: a headline from New York Times

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: in JD Vance's backyard

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: conspiracy theories about

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: migrants and voting

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: abound. OK, now what

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: they're going to try to do is

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: say, well, yes, maybe there

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: was a problem at the border,

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: but this isn't going to

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: lead to people that are

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_00]: actually going to go and

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: vote. And so again, the

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: press has actually tried.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the Washington Post

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Republicans flood TV with

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: misleading ads about

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration and the border.

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And so they actually have

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_00]: gone out of their way to

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: dismiss the claim by

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Donald Trump that

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_00]: immigrate immigrants are

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_00]: having an impact on jobs

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and that immigrants are

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_00]: being brought here so

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_00]: that they can ultimately

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: vote in the time story

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: about these conspiracy

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_00]: theories. The paper takes

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: aim according to Richard

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Lowry's article that I'm

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: reading right now says they

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: take aim that Democrats are

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: bringing undocumented

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_00]: immigrants into the country

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_00]: to vote for their party.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: According to this report,

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: according to Rich Lowry, the

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_00]: notion quote and this is a

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_00]: quote now from the Times

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_00]: strains even the

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_00]: imagination envisioning

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Democrats in Washington

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_00]: circumventing border rules,

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: officials and infrastructure

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: to allow undocumented

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_00]: immigrants into the country

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_00]: help them settle and then

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: cast ballots legally or not.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, as Rich Lowry says, three

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: fourths of that sentence

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: doesn't strain the

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: imagination. It accurately

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: describes what has been

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_00]: happening every day at the

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: border under the Biden

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_00]: administration. And yet

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_00]: there is always this idea

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_00]: that well, yes, but this

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_00]: isn't so that they can

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: cast votes. But if you read

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: a little bit further in the

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_00]: article, it also then says,

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_00]: again, this is a quote, more

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_00]: than a dozen cities and

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_00]: towns mostly in deep blue

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: areas allow foreign

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_00]: nationals that would be

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_00]: illegal immigrants to vote

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_00]: in local elections,

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_00]: regardless of their

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration status, which

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: state and local leaders say

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_00]: as warranted because un

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: authorized immigrants pay

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: taxes at levels comparable

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_00]: to those of citizens and

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: strengthen their economies.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: That is the argument I tell

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: you, you're going to be

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: hearing. That is, these are

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: individuals, even if

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_00]: they're here illegally,

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: they're paying taxes so

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_00]: they should be allowed to

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_00]: vote to figure out where

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_00]: their taxes are going to go.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's how you're

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: going to eventually have

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_00]: the opportunity for all

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_00]: these individuals who are

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_00]: here illegally to

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_00]: eventually be on the

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: voter rolls. Of course,

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_00]: many of them are on

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_00]: there right now because

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_00]: guess what? Many states,

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: if you're here illegally,

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00]: you can still get a

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: driver's license. And what

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_00]: does it take in most states

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: to actually register to

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: vote? Well, driver's license

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_00]: is usually all that you

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: really need in this

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_00]: particular place.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So again, the argument

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: that is being made about

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_00]: the fact that these people

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_00]: are being brought in and

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_00]: they're having an impact on

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_00]: jobs, I don't think has

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_00]: been debunked. I don't

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: think it's a conspiracy

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: theory. I think it's easy

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_00]: to prove in terms of supply

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and demand. And a lot

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_00]: of people know that the

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_00]: argument that they're

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_00]: also being brought in here

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: with the idea that

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_00]: eventually they could vote

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: seems to be verified if

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_00]: nothing else by what you're

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: starting to see in some of

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: the blue states. Now, this

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_00]: is one place where Donald

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump doesn't do himself

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_00]: any favor, because then

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_00]: oftentimes he'll make the

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_00]: claim that immigrant voters,

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_00]: illegal immigrant voters

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: are stealing his elections

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and stealing rightful

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: victories. And sometimes

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_00]: even makes the statement

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: that they're taking 100

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: percent of the jobs. Okay,

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_00]: that's where again, his

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: hyperbole does not suit

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: him well. But first of all,

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_00]: let's recognize that if

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: you even go to something

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_00]: like the 2013 left wing

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Center for American

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Progress, it issued this

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: report, quote, supporting

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: real immigration reform

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_00]: that contains a pathway

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: to citizenship for our

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: nation's 11 million

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_00]: undocumented immigrants is

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_00]: the only way to maintain

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: electoral strength in the

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: future. So a left of center

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: group says, first of all, it's

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: not 11 million, you know

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_00]: that and I know that. But

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: nevertheless, that is the

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: case. But then again to say

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: that some of these

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: individuals are taking all

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: the jobs, probably is a

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_00]: little bit of an extreme.

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But there are still some

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_00]: pretty good pieces of

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00]: evidence to actually

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: suggest that they're

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_00]: taking many of those, but

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_00]: they may not all be

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_00]: immigrants. Donald Trump

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_00]: again argues that

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: migrants are stealing jobs

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and even says that 100% of

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_00]: the total jobs created are

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_00]: going to those people that

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: are here illegally. Again,

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_00]: this is not where his

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: hyperbole serves him well.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But he's partially right

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_00]: if you go and look at

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the Bureau of Labor

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Statistics. By the way, I've

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_00]: got to just give you a

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_00]: disclaimer here. Last night

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_00]: there was an interview with

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_00]: the Secretary of Commerce.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And at one point they

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: quoted some statistics from

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_00]: the Bureau of Labor

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Statistics. She said,

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what that is.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, you have

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_00]: got to be kidding me.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You are in the Commerce

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Department. You are the

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Secretary of Commerce

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and you don't know what

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: the BLS is. I mean, I know

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: some of you don't, but

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_00]: you're not actually on a

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_00]: cabinet level position

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_00]: in the Commerce

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Department anyway. But again

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: if you go and look at

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: the Bureau of Labor

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Statistics and again,

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Rich Lawry does you

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: the work. If you look

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_00]: at the BLS table 7A,

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_00]: you will see that a very

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: large share of the jobs

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: since the pandemic have

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: gone to people who are

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_00]: foreign born.

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So if somebody could get

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: to Donald Trump and say

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: don't say illegal immigrants

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: but just say a very high

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: percentage of people

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_00]: getting these jobs

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: are actually people that

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_00]: are foreign born,

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: some of whom probably

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_00]: are here illegally.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it shows very

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: quickly that again

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_00]: what we are dealing with

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_00]: is something that is

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_00]: affecting jobs and could

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_00]: eventually affect all sorts

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: of other aspects.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably right now affecting

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: the economy, affecting

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_00]: job creation and all of

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_00]: the rest, but nevertheless

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and certainly wages are

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_00]: being affected there.

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: One last point we've been

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_00]: picking on The New York

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Times about time to pick

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_00]: on The Washington Post as

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_00]: well. The New York Post

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_00]: also takes on some of

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: these Republican ads on

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration in which

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_00]: The Washington Post says

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_00]: taken as a whole, the ads

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_00]: convey an unrealistic

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_00]: portrait of the border as

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_00]: being overrun and

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_00]: inaccurately characterizing

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: immigrants generally is a

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_00]: threat of which there is

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_00]: no evidence.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Now given the influx of

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_00]: people over the last

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_00]: three and a half years,

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the word influx

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_00]: probably is pretty good.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But again it goes on to

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: say that these ads

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_00]: create what they call

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_00]: a false impression

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_00]: that migrants are flooding

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_00]: unchecked into the United

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: States.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I love

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Rich Lowry.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_00]: A false impression.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_00]: What would it take you

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_00]: editors at The Washington

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Post when you see

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_00]: pictures and numbers

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and diagrams and I've

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: shown charts on this program

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_00]: of people flooding into

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_00]: this country, how much

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_00]: would it have to be

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_00]: an influx before you

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_00]: would finally say,

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: well that's maybe not

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: a false impression,

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_00]: that's probably an

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_00]: accurate impression of

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_00]: what is happening.

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think what you're

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_00]: going to see over the next

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_00]: a few weeks,

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe even two months

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: is an attempt to address

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_00]: the immigration issue by

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_00]: simply saying it's a

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_00]: conspiracy theory.

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't believe what you see

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_00]: on television.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't believe all the

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: images.

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't believe all the

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_00]: statistics.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't even think that

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_00]: this is a problem that

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_00]: has anything to do with

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris because

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: this is one of the

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_00]: vulnerabilities.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I would have to say that

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_00]: she and the administration

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_00]: have the Biden-Harris

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_00]: administration, now the

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris-Wall's campaign

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_00]: and it seems to me that

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_00]: the media strategy

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_00]: pretty simple.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just all a conspiracy

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_00]: theory and you don't need

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_00]: to believe it and you

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: don't need to pay attention

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_00]: to it.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see the word

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration was hardly

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_00]: mentioned over the last

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_00]: three nights.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I doubt it will be

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_00]: mentioned much tonight

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: but we'll see.

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll take a break.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Come back with some final

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_00]: comments right after this.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You're listening to

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Point of View.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Your listener-supported

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_02]: source for truth.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: That goes again, let me

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_00]: just mention that tomorrow

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_00]: is our weekend edition.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll have Kelly Shackleford,

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Dr. Murrow Matthews, one

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_00]: of the articles that we're

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: ready to post right after

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the program closes today

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_00]: is on the changing

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: of the Supreme Court

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and it has to do with

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the survey which was

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_00]: commissioned actually by

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_00]: First Liberty Institute

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: but also reported by

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_00]: the Wall Street Journal

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_00]: that after now weeks

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_00]: of talking about the need

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_00]: to change the Supreme Court

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_00]: and after weeks of talking

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_00]: about wanting to have term

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_00]: limits and talking about

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: having all of the various

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_00]: kinds of changes being

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_00]: proposed by Chuck Schumer

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and Joe Biden

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_00]: and of course even tonight

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_00]: by Kamala Harris,

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Americans still oppose

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_00]: making those kinds of

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_00]: changes.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: One of the other articles

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_00]: we will be posting is

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: about Robert F. Kennedy

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Jr. Looks like he is

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_00]: going to end his campaign.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Why?

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Well fundraising has

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: certainly not gone

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_00]: the way he would hope

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_00]: nor has he been able

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: to really connect.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And what does that mean

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_00]: for the election?

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like he might

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_00]: endorse Donald Trump

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: but we will see where

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: that takes us.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_00]: We also have a very good

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: piece by Dr. Merrill Matthews

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_00]: that was in the Hill.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you ready for

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Nalix?

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Nalix

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess that's how

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_00]: you would say it.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And again that really

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_00]: gets into another piece

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_00]: that he wrote in terms

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_00]: of some of the economic

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_00]: plans being proposed.

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And then since we did

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_00]: mention immigration,

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: a very good piece

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_00]: that's come out from

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: of our friends at ABC News

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: of all places.

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_00]: They were saying that

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_00]: really we do have an

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_00]: urgent issue at the

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: immigration issues

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and in particular

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: at the border

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_00]: because we've lost track

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_00]: of all these

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: unaccompanied minors.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_00]: What a surprise.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Would never have

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_00]: guessed that, right?

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And so we really

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_00]: have a lot to cover

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_00]: tomorrow.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll also be talking

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_00]: about Penedexia's

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_00]: commentary on school choice.

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Some of those are

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_00]: issues that will

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: come up tonight

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: in the speech

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_00]: by Kamala Harris

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_00]: so we will see

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_00]: where that takes us then.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But I thought it

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: ended with a piece

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_00]: by Star Parker

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and a good friend

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_00]: of this ministry

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_00]: for many years

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_00]: in which it reminds us

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_00]: that this nation,

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_00]: she says, needs

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_00]: a great reawakening.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Now let me encourage

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_00]: you as you go

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_00]: to our website today

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: to find some of the

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: material.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you want to

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: connect up with Jackie

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Deeson.

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: If you go

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and go further down,

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_00]: you'll see my

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_00]: viewpoints commentary

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_00]: on the Take It Down

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Act, which we've

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_00]: talked about before.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_00]: There's elections central

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_00]: and then there's the

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Pray for America

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and one of the things

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_00]: we posted last week

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: was about the need

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_00]: for revival.

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_00]: The one we posted

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: in Centurion Box

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_00]: this week

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_00]: was about the need

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_00]: for really a

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_00]: reformation

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and in some respects

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_00]: it fits very well

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_00]: with some of the things

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_00]: that Star Parker

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_00]: is talking about

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and she reminds us

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_00]: that over the years

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_00]: 1934 to 1961

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_00]: the British historian

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Arnold Toinby

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_00]: published his

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_00]: 12 volume

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: A Study of History.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just really

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_00]: an encyclopedic history

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_00]: of that

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and he studied

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_00]: the rise and fall

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_00]: of 23 different

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_00]: civilizations

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_00]: and his conclusions

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_00]: are something we've

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: talked about on this

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_00]: program so many times

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: before

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: was that great

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: civilizations die

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_00]: not from external causes

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_00]: but from internal ones.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Now sometimes they

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_00]: commit suicide

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_00]: and die.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Other times

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: they just get so weak

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_00]: that they get taken over

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: but a strong civilization

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: does actually

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_00]: last for a long time.

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_00]: A weak civilization

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: either

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: dissembles itself

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_00]: collapses

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: crumbles on itself

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: or is taken over

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: and so Toinby

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_00]: concluded in the words

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_00]: of one journalist

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_00]: that civilizations

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_00]: start to decay

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_00]: when they lose

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_00]: their moral fiber

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and if there's

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_00]: one thing we recognize

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_00]: that the civilizations

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: don't continue forever

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and you might want to

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_00]: find the commentaries

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_00]: are wrote about two weeks ago

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: on the various cycles

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_00]: that we've talked about.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_00]: We are actually going

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: to have a booklet

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: for those of you that

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_00]: have joined with us

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_00]: at the truth team level

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_00]: for a dollar day

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_00]: thirty dollars a month

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_00]: you receive the outlook

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_00]: magazine

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_00]: you'll also receive

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: the booklets

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and the one that will

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_00]: be coming out

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: in about another month

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_00]: it isn't printed yet

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_00]: is on the cycles

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: of history

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and we can see that

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and she's talking

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_00]: about that today.

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Well

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: star park goes on to say

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_00]: it is the business

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_00]: of politicians

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_00]: to aspire to power

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_00]: to tell us that our problems

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_00]: are because of the other party

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and to divert our attention

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_00]: from where we should be

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: that is on ourselves.

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_00]: She said if we so focus

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe I believe

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: we would conclude

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_00]: that it is hard

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: to see a future for a nation

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_00]: with fewer and fewer children

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_00]: greater and greater

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_00]: government

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and greater and greater debt

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and less and less

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: economic growth

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_00]: that I think

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_00]: is a very accurate

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_00]: illustration.

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: She gives you some

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: of the population

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_00]: statistics

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and you've heard them before

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: of course we

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: spent some time

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_00]: just recently

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_00]: even talking about that

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: in terms of

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_00]: the need to have more children

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_00]: but she says for a population

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: to hold steady

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and not to shrink

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_00]: the average fertility rate

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_00]: must be two point

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_00]: eight children

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_00]: per woman

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: we've fallen well

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: below that

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_00]: to one point six seven

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and probably will never

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_00]: increase past that.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_00]: One measure of this picture

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_00]: she says is the ratio

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_00]: of the size

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_00]: of the working age

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_00]: population

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_00]: 25 to 64

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_00]: to the size

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_00]: of the population

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_00]: 65 and older

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and back in the 1950s

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_00]: the ratio was six

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_00]: to one

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_00]: in 2004

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_00]: it was four to one

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and now the estimates

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_00]: are that it is

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_00]: probably two point nine

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_00]: to one

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and really by the middle

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_00]: of this

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: century

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: could be two point

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_00]: two to one

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_00]: that is not good

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_00]: when you are trying to support

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_00]: that many people

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and you don't have that many

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_00]: people beneath them

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_00]: doing work

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and of course also

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_00]: interesting enough

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_00]: in nineteen eighty

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_00]: six percent

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_00]: of forty year olds

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_00]: had never been married

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_00]: last time we

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_00]: have been able to get a number

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_00]: for that twenty twenty one

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_00]: was twenty five percent

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and so then of course

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_00]: we get to those numbers

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_00]: we have a national debt

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_00]: of thirty five trillion

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_00]: dollars

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_00]: the federal debt held

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_00]: by the public back in nineteen

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: eighty was only twenty five

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_00]: percent of GDP

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_00]: now it's almost a hundred

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_00]: percent or though if you

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_00]: go look at the dead clock

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_00]: it's more than a hundred

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_00]: percent depends on

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_00]: which number you use

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and also if you want

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_00]: economic growth

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_00]: in the economy

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_00]: in the past

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_00]: it was at least three

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_00]: to four percent

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_00]: we're going to be lucky

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_00]: if it's two percent

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think it just

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_00]: illustrates again

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_00]: that we are a nation

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_00]: without children

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_00]: without marriage

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_00]: with expanding government

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and debt

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and in a sense

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_00]: a nation

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_00]: if we want to paraphrase

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_00]: the historian Arnold Toinby

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_00]: committing suicide

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_00]: so she says pray for a

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_00]: reawakening

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_00]: more and more this

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_00]: next couple of weeks

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_00]: we're going to be

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_00]: trying to focus on

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_00]: both in the broadcast

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and even in some of the

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_00]: outlook magazine articles

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and some of my commentaries

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: on the kind of challenges

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_00]: this country faces

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_00]: no matter who we elect

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_00]: to the presidency

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_00]: no matter who we elect

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_00]: to Congress

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_00]: now there is an importance

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_00]: to who you elect

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: because some

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_00]: congressmen

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_00]: some presidents

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_00]: can do more harm than good

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_00]: so certainly you would want

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_00]: to have some that could

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_00]: do no harm to use

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_00]: one of the phrases out of

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_00]: medicine

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_00]: but I also recognize

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_00]: that some of these are

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_00]: almost intractable

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_00]: intractable problems

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think Star Parker

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_00]: has reminded us

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_00]: of a few of those

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_00]: so again the nation needs

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_00]: a great reawakening

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_00]: by and large what we're

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_00]: really trying to say is

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_00]: the nation needs God

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: and more importantly

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_00]: it needs a revival

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_00]: it needs a reformation

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_00]: it needs a great awakening

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: if indeed

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_00]: this is not the end

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_00]: of the empire known

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_00]: as America

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_00]: it's a somber way to end

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_00]: but it is a reminder

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_00]: that no matter what you hear

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_00]: tonight

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_00]: no matter what you hear

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_00]: on the campaign trail

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_00]: over the next couple of months

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_00]: the real issues

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_00]: as we've said before

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_00]: are more cultural

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_00]: than political

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_00]: culture is upstream

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_00]: of politics

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_00]: politics is downstream

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_00]: from culture

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_00]: we certainly need to be

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_00]: paying attention to who we vote for

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_00]: but at the same time

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_00]: the biggest issues

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_00]: are more spiritual and cultural

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's why we're going to be addressing those

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_00]: over the next few weeks as well

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_00]: first of all I want to thank Megan

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_00]: for help

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_00]: actually producing the program

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and engineering the program

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and making sure everything

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_00]: came in on time

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Steve thank you

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: for producing the program

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I hope that if you'd like to know more

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_00]: about what we've been talking about today

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_00]: you visit the website

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_00]: pointofview.net

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and see you back here tomorrow

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_00]: right here on point of view

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_01]: the Bible tells us

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: not to worry

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and yet there is

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of worrying stuff

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_01]: in our world today

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_01]: thankfully the Bible doesn't stop

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_01]: at telling us

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: not to worry

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_01]: God gives us

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_01]: a next step

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_01]: he says we need to pray

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_01]: but sometimes

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_01]: even knowing what to pray

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_01]: can be difficult

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and that is why Point of View

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_01]: has relaunched

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_01]: our Pray for America movement

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_01]: a series of weekly emails

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: to guide you in prayer

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_01]: for our nation

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_01]: each week you'll receive a

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_01]: brief update about a current issue

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: affecting Americans

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: along with a written prayer

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_01]: that you can easily share

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_01]: with others

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_01]: we'll also include a short

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_01]: free resource for you

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_01]: in each email

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_01]: so you can learn more

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: about the issue at hand

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: will you commit

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: to pray for America

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: go to pointofview.com

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[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_01]: let's pray together

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_01]: for God to make a difference

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