[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Hour 1
[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_06]: do a little better for Kamala Harris tonight, but we will be talking about that quite a bit,
[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_06]: especially in the second hour.
[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_06]: But we are privileged to have in studio here a good friend, an individual that is the host
[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_06]: of the Jackie Dailer show because it's Jackie Deeson.
[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And she is an individual that you can watch on Blaze Media.
[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Matter of fact, she just finished doing her program there also on the dial of the
[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Texas podcast and all the rest.
[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_06]: We have some links there on the website.
[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_06]: My mention the first article is actually an interview she did with Kevin Freeman on
[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_06]: energy politics and the petrodollar.
[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_06]: We'll get into that.
[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Also have spread out in front of me here some of the things that are in the Democratic
[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_06]: National platform on the issue of energy.
[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_06]: She is also a former counsel to the chairman of subcommittee on Constitution of the
[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_06]: U.S. House Judiciary Committee and a talk show host and it's great to have you in studio.
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much.
[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It's great to be back with you and it's been too long.
[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I feel like I see you at least once a year but always enjoy coming back to
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_03]: you right here in our hometown.
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, and again, I appreciate what you do on radio and I also on video.
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And so that's why I put up that first article there with Kevin Freeman before I
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_06]: get into some of the Democratic National Convention.
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_06]: One of the first things you started talking about with him was the fact
[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_06]: that even though there has been a real attempt on the part of the Biden
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Harris campaign and the administration to really close down oil production because
[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_06]: so much of that is in private hands, they haven't been able to accomplish that.
[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Can you speak to that issue?
[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the many wonders of America.
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_03]: There are so many things that make us great and I mean we could do endless shows.
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But in this country, private individuals own the oil and gas.
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_03]: In other countries, it's owned by the king.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It's owned by the royal family.
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It's owned by the government.
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_03]: So that means that our government can't just decide what the policy is going to be.
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_03]: We actually have our oil and gas regulated primarily by the states, not the feds.
[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_03]: That's wonder number one.
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Federalism federalism.
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you founding fathers.
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Unbelievable that they could foresee so many problems and they wanted
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_03]: to make sure that the people of the states had the ability to decide their own policy.
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_03]: So there's not only the feds not controlling the states, they don't control the individuals,
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_03]: which is beautiful.
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So in Texas, for example, just Texas, there are 600,000 families that own our oil and gas.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_03]: 600,000 families getting royalties off of the production of oil and gas.
[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So they get to decide and then as you know, pension funds own our oil and gas.
[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Right? If you're invested in a pension fund or a 401k, you probably own our oil and gas.
[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_03]: You just don't know it.
[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_03]: There are literally millions and millions of Americans who own it, not the federal government.
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_03]: They do regulate and they find every way possible and conceivable.
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they've got these agencies like 17 different agencies that regulate oil and gas production,
[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_03]: which is crazy first of all.
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're constantly coming up with ways to try to recap the industry because they don't like fossil fuels.
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And so far, despite all of that, as of today, 2024, we are producing more oil than ever before,
[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_03]: more natural gas than ever before.
[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_03]: We're the number one producer of oil, the number one producer of natural gas,
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_03]: more than Canada, Qatar, which is a granddaddy production and all these countries combined.
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and we're the number one group in coal as far as reserves and our ability to produce.
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: We're number one in nuclear.
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_03]: There's not much we don't win, Kirby.
[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's tough to screw this country up.
[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It's really tough to knock us down.
[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_03]: You can you can you can deal some blows to us.
[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no question Washington can do some major damage and it has.
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_03]: We're surviving despite the thousand cuts.
[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, I could go in for a long time, but that's the basics of it.
[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I think it's a good point because a lot of people say, well,
[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_06]: this is what you've done under an administration that has been very hostile to fossil fuels.
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Just imagine what it would be like if you had an administration that is not.
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_06]: And isn't it fair to say, Jackie, that there was a time when we could honestly refer
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_06]: to ourselves as energy independent?
[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what you would say so people debate this and what they're debating is this.
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_03]: No question.
[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_03]: We were energy secure.
[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_03]: We absolutely had everything we needed to to provide for ourselves and others.
[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_03]: In that sense, we are independent.
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_03]: The people who dispute that would say, well, oil is a world market.
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It is.
[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a commodity.
[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we'll never be free of the pressures of what other countries do or don't
[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_03]: do if OPEC decides they're going to produce more, produce less.
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to hit the price.
[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And so our producers will feel the effects of that.
[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll never quite be independent of the world on a world commodity.
[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_03]: But what they mean is we can provide for ourselves and we can provide for
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_03]: others abundantly.
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_03]: We've got hundreds of years of supply.
[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So everything's OK.
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_03]: We've still got the fundamentals under us in place.
[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_06]: The other part of that that people often wonder is if we are relatively secure,
[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_06]: independent, whatever phrase you want to use, that means we're not sending
[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_06]: money to countries that don't like us.
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Some of whom are not only ones that don't like us, but actually are state
[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_06]: sponsored areas of terrorism.
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's a good thing too, isn't it?
[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_03]: It's huge.
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It's huge.
[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, what you that's what I'm trying to point out with my show
[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_03]: really almost one of the overarching missions of the show is to say, listen,
[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_03]: do you want to empower the good guys in the world or the bad guys?
[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_03]: So your view on fossil fuels and who should be producing or not
[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_03]: should really be about that because if we actually shut down
[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_03]: most of our fossil fuel production, you would immediately spike
[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_03]: the price of all of those commodities and the only guys left producing
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_03]: are the bad guys.
[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_03]: What some of the worst actors are in OPEC.
[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously Russia is not part of OPEC, but major
[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_03]: oil and gas producer, you would line the pockets of Putin's war machine
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: so hard if you knock down US oil and gas production.
[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a really bad idea.
[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's empower us.
[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Empower good guys like Canada, like Australia, like the UK, like Norway.
[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_03]: There are some good actors who produce fossil fuels in a big way.
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Why seed all that market share?
[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Because do we really think we're going to stop using oil
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_03]: and that they're going to stop producing it?
[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's a dream world.
[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, no, it's about it's about making the world a better place
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_03]: and preventing World War three, by the way.
[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I would think so.
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, when we come back from the break, I've got a couple of things here.
[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_06]: We've got some of the platform of the Democratic National Party here,
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_06]: one about combating climate crisis and pursuing
[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_06]: and even funding environmental justice.
[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe you can explain what that means and then the whole idea
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_06]: or clean energy and the rest.
[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And then interesting enough, the back and forth as to whether
[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_06]: or not Democrats are for or against the what are called oil and gas subsidies.
[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_06]: And so they've kind of been a mixed perspective on that.
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_06]: And of course, trying to nail Kamala Harris down on any of those issues
[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_06]: is going to be difficult, but I want you to try to educate us on those.
[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_06]: And then we'll get into this whole idea of the petrodollar
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_06]: and what is happening there.
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_06]: We've you've heard about BRICS.
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_06]: You've heard us talk about reserve currency.
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_06]: We'll get into that.
[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And most importantly in the first hour,
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_06]: since we're so privileged to have Jackie Deeson in studio,
[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_06]: we'll open up the phones.
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_06]: 1-800-351-1212 if you'd like to ask a question or if not,
[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_06]: and sit back and take some notes.
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Let me encourage you to do so.
[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Also, don't forget, we also have all sorts of booklets.
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_06]: There's the one I did on climate change a while back.
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Here's the one on energy and the environment
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_06]: and others coming in the future.
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_06]: So we think that these are resources you need to have.
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Number one, as you evaluate who you're going to vote for.
[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Number two, what should be maybe the policy in America for the future?
[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Because after all, this country does still run on fossil fuels.
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_06]: We'll talk about that and come back with some more comments
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_06]: right after these important messages.
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[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Revenge porn and publishing of deep fake abuse
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_06]: are a growing problem on social media.
[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_06]: That is why U.S. senators from both parties
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_06]: have sponsored a bill known as Take It Down Act.
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_06]: It would criminalize the publication
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_06]: of non-consensual intimate image abuse
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_06]: and require social media platforms
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_06]: to remove such items immediately.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_06]: On my radio program, we've encouraged listeners
[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_06]: to contact their two senators about the legislation.
[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Recently, I have the bill's author,
[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Senator Ted Cruz, on my program
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_06]: to explain why such legislation was necessary.
[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_06]: He said in recent years,
[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_06]: we witnessed a stunning increase
[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_06]: in exploitative sexual material online
[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_06]: largely due to bad actors taking advantage
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_06]: of newer technologies
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_06]: like generative artificial intelligence.
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Many women and girls are forever harmed by these crimes,
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_06]: having to live with being victimized again and again.
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Democratic Senator Jackie Rosen further explained,
[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_06]: as artificial intelligence continues to grow
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_06]: and become more prevalent in daily life,
[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_06]: we must prevent it from being used
[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_06]: to produce non-consensual intimate images.
[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Republican Senator Cynthia Lumis
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_06]: acknowledged the benefits and dangers of AI
[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_06]: but said artificial intelligence is the future
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_06]: and provides an infinite number of possibilities
[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_06]: of how this new technology can be used
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_06]: to improve lives around not only in this country
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_06]: but across the entire globe.
[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_06]: With any new industry, comes the need to ensure
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_06]: that it's not being used by bad actors
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_06]: and AI is no different.
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_06]: We need this bipartisan legislation
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_06]: to deal with this growing problem on social media.
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[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Back right again in studio with us today, Jackie Deeson
[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_06]: and she is with the Jackie Daily Show.
[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_06]: We have a link to that on the website.
[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Also have an interview that she did with Kevin Freeman
[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_06]: on energy politics and the petrodollar
[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_06]: but I thought with the Democratic Convention unfolding
[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_06]: and now that we have a platform,
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_06]: let me just read a clip or two from one section
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_06]: of the platform.
[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_06]: They start out by saying, Jackie,
[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_06]: that climate change is a global emergency.
[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Last four years have seen record breaking storms,
[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_06]: devastating wildfires, historic floods,
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_06]: urban and rural communities have suffered tens of billions
[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_06]: of dollars in economic losses.
[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Thousands of Americans have died,
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_06]: skipped down to like the third paragraph
[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_06]: and we need global competitive clean energy
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_06]: and we reject the false choice between growing our economy
[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_06]: and combating climate change.
[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_06]: But what about this?
[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_06]: We are told that this is an emergency,
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_06]: there's a place where they say we only have a few years left
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_06]: and as I point out in my biblical Point of View
[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_06]: on climate change, since I'm the old guy around the table,
[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_06]: they were talking about this in the 1970s
[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_06]: when I was in high school and they're still
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_06]: talking about it.
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_03]: We always only have a few years left.
[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that that was said a few years ago
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_03]: and if years before that and if years before that
[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_03]: is undaunting for any of them.
[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So the first thing is, yes, climate change is happening
[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_03]: since the beginning of time.
[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very natural and yes, we're contributing.
[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_03]: We're part of the environment.
[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, we have an impact on the environment.
[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So there's no such thing as a climate change denier.
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know anyone who denies those two facts.
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone knows the climate changes and we're part of it.
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Where the disagreement comes in
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_03]: is this a crisis or an emergency?
[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_03]: The answer is no.
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Emphatically, no.
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing happening that we can't meet the challenge.
[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Coastlines have been changing and eroding
[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_03]: and continents changing and islands coming up
[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_03]: and going up since the beginning of time.
[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Storms, floods, droughts have been happening
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_03]: since the beginning of time.
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_03]: If there had been big, beautiful, expensive cities
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_03]: and expensive homes built at that time,
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_03]: there would have been billions of dollars of damage back then.
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_03]: So we have to take this in a proper context
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_03]: and I've done many, many segments on my show
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_03]: and I do break them out by segment,
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_03]: laying out exactly the truth about these facts
[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_03]: from authoritative sources.
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_03]: They are not entitled to their own facts.
[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And I will lay it out for you piece by piece on my show.
[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_03]: For example, climate change activists used to dress
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_03]: in polar bear outfits.
[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Notice they don't do that anymore.
[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You know why?
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Because the population's increasing.
[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Because the population's increasing.
[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_03]: That's exactly right.
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And increasing beautifully actually.
[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_03]: They're doing great.
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And so that does not at all square with the narrative
[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_03]: that the polar ice caps would be gone
[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: by this time as Al Gore told us.
[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_03]: According to him, they should have been gone years ago.
[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_03]: There should be no ice right now at the poles.
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And for some reason it's like there's nothing
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: these doomsday prophets can say to ever just credit them.
[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It just swept under the rug.
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_03]: No amount of, I do shows on that.
[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You entire segments on, let me make you feel better
[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_03]: about our world.
[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Let me tell you all the devastating consequences.
[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_03]: A billion people were supposed to have starved by now
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_03]: because of climate change.
[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And I used to be afraid when I was a teenager
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_03]: of disappearing ozone layer, acid rain.
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I was a strident environmentalist
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_03]: when I was young and vulnerable and gullible.
[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And you live a little while and you're like,
[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: wait a minute, why is no one talking about that anymore?
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they didn't need the policy anymore.
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_03]: The vendor who would have been paid to fix that problem
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_03]: laid off that or found something better to do
[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: or a new drift.
[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't think there's an emergency.
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_03]: That is a scare tactic that is meant to persuade us
[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_03]: to part with our money through our tax bill
[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_03]: and our electric bill.
[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And guess what?
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_03]: All of your money to go to the Green New Deal programs
[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_03]: goes straight into the pockets of people
[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_03]: who are donors to big time politicians.
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It goes to the politically connected
[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_03]: to solve a crisis that is not there.
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_03]: As I said, absolutely they're environmental challenges
[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_03]: for sure and we have ways to solve this.
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Like mankind has got this where we do not,
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: your children should not be foregoing having children
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_03]: because of any kind of perceived crisis.
[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's my first reaction.
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And what was the last part of their...
[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, again, the idea of the idea
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_06]: that we have a false choice between growing our economy
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_06]: and combating climate change.
[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And it does seem to me that we recognize
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_06]: that you can do some things that would be helpful.
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_06]: But again, if the goal, and one of the places here
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_06]: is the goal to go back to the Paris Climate Agreement.
[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_06]: And I always ask individuals that are somewhat skeptical
[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_06]: about whether or not we have a future here
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_06]: in this planet to say, well,
[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_06]: if indeed you wanted to actually achieve
[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_06]: the Paris Climate Agreement,
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_06]: do you know which country has actually been able
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_06]: to reduce carbon more than any other country?
[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_03]: That would be ours.
[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and that's why.
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_06]: The United States who did not even sign the agreement.
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It happened more than once
[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_03]: that we're the only country that abstains
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: and we're also the only country that meets the goals.
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So no one at the UN should be lecturing us
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_03]: about clean air, about carbon emissions,
[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_03]: which by the way are not the same thing as pollution.
[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_03]: But in any event, whether it's clean water,
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_03]: or clean air, or carbon emissions,
[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_03]: we're the best among the advanced countries,
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_03]: the industrialized advanced countries.
[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_03]: You would have to go to countries that are islands
[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_03]: in the middle of the ocean
[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_03]: to find better conditions oftentimes
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_03]: than what we have on the average in America,
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_03]: especially for particulate matter pollution,
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_03]: which is a dangerous type.
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_03]: It gets into your heart and lungs
[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_03]: that causes cardiopulmonary problems.
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a real problem.
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_03]: This country is amazingly clean.
[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Europe can't hold a candle to us.
[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_03]: How dare they lecture us on cleaning up our environment?
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I would say to the Democrats,
[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_03]: they should consider some very compelling facts
[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_03]: that mirror what they're saying.
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_03]: This country has boomed in population since 1970.
[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_03]: We have doubled, more than doubled the GDP.
[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have these stats that they're ready.
[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Basically, exploded the population,
[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_03]: exploded the GDP, exploded our growth,
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_03]: tripled the number of miles driven in this country,
[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_03]: and at the same time, we've reduced our pollution
[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: to six federally regulated pollutants
[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: by more than 70%, each one of them.
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I think lead is down 90%.
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_03]: We know how to do that.
[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: The use of fossil fuels is not usually exclusive
[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_03]: with a clean environment.
[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: That's my reaction to that.
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And the reason we do this well
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_03]: is because we're Americans and we innovate.
[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_03]: If we identify a problem, we can fix that problem.
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And so that has always been the answer for humankind.
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the US is still the best as far as patents
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_03]: and solving problems.
[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_03]: We have like the overwhelming number of Nobel laureates.
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, a third of them are immigrants
[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_03]: who come to this country.
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Why?
[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Because they're not rewarded for their innovation
[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_03]: or for their hard work
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and for what they contribute in their home country.
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's a communist country where any wealth you make
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_03]: will be confiscated.
[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So what is your incentive to invent?
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's no market there, right?
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Because there's no freedom.
[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing for them to sell into.
[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no great institution for them to ascend through.
[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_04]: No private property rights.
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_03]: They come here because merit is still rewarded.
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_03]: To some degree in this country,
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_03]: hard work is still rewarded.
[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Innovation is still rewarded.
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_03]: We have to keep it that way
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: if we want the best people coming here from elsewhere.
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And so what I have to say is we can do it.
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Number one, don't be afraid.
[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Please don't be afraid.
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_03]: We can dispel fear with facts.
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what, especially say that to the younger kids.
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I just reject these parts of the platform.
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's very misguided.
[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I think they need to listen to the Jackie Daly show.
[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, again, that issue of fear,
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll talk about more of this the second hour,
[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_06]: but Oprah Winfrey is up there saying,
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_06]: well, these other people,
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_06]: meaning Republicans and everything,
[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_06]: are playing on your fears.
[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_06]: And I thought, well, first of all,
[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_06]: the fear I'm hearing here is about the fact
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_06]: that we're on the edge of a global climate apocalypse.
[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_06]: And the fear of the fact that there might be
[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_06]: another party that would actually do something
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_06]: that we would disagree with.
[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_06]: But I thought it was interesting
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_06]: because that issue of fear is something
[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_06]: that is really, as you said before, affecting kids.
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_06]: And so we need to take a break
[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_06]: and maybe spend some time, if we can,
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_06]: getting into some other issues.
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_06]: We already have some phone calls,
[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_06]: and of course I figured Jackie would create those.
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_06]: So let me open up the phones 800-351-1212.
[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_06]: We'll do those after the break.
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_06]: But just as we're going to a break,
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_06]: let me just mention, you heard us talk about the fact
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_06]: that there have been record breaking storms and wildfires.
[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, you're familiar with Bjorn Lomberg
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_06]: in which he points out if you plot that over time,
[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_06]: no, actually not so much.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_06]: But there have been very significant costs,
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_06]: tens of billions of dollars in economic losses.
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_06]: If you only look at that,
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_06]: you think things were getting worse.
[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_06]: But you know, a lot of people are building their homes
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_06]: next to the seacoast.
[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Including a few of those that were speaking this week.
[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_06]: For example, like Barack Obama and others.
[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And so yes, there are more things
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_06]: as you alluded to just a minute ago
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_06]: they could be destroyed.
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_06]: So if you only look at the statistic
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_06]: on the economic devastation of weather,
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_06]: you'd say, well, we're in really bad way.
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_06]: If you look at it in other ways,
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_06]: you recognize that really we're actually a bit of an aloh
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_06]: in terms of some of these weather disasters.
[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_06]: And in terms of the number of people killed
[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_06]: by these weather related environmental issues is going down.
[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's because we figured out ways to protect people.
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_06]: So anyway, just a couple of facts
[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_06]: that you need to keep track of
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_06]: because even as we pointed out yesterday,
[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Pete Budashev is gonna tell you crime went up
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_06]: and he did last night.
[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Say crime went up under Trump
[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_06]: and it's went down under Biden.
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_06]: I gave you the answer for the fact that
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I think all of us know that crime is up right now.
[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_06]: After all, if you say defund the police,
[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_06]: guess what's gonna happen?
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[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And now here again is Kirby Anderson.
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[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Jackie Deeson, unless we can go out to California
[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_06]: listening on KNLB.
[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Kathy, thank you for joining us today here on Point of View.
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I know this is gonna be a long,
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_02]: hopefully I'm gonna try to shorten it down.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_02]: In the last six years,
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_02]: California has shut down 29%
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: of our in-state oil and gas production,
[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_02]: but can't build alternative quick...
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Quickly enough to replace it.
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: California spent 25 billion a year importing costly oil.
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_02]: California's energy policies
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_02]: are the reason California paid an average of $1.47 more
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: per gallon.
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Now my question is, if Kamala Harris got in,
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: because they're not answering anything,
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and Buddha judge was a mayor, or I guess he was governor,
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and he got into the position he's in,
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: is it possible that they could appoint somebody
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: like Gavin Newsen into the EPA,
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_02]: or whatever it would be on the oil
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and implement their alternative energy
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and impose that on the state?
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Yep, and again, part of it is, as we've said before,
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_06]: you've always heard what happens in Las Vegas,
[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_06]: stays in Las Vegas, but unfortunately,
[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_06]: what happens in California sometimes spreads
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_06]: to the rest of the country.
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_06]: What about that?
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_03]: That's true, a state's policy can be metastatic
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_03]: and metastasized to other states,
[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_03]: or in a good way, it can also travel when it's good.
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I would say it's absolutely possible
[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_03]: that Gavin Newsen could be EPA administrator.
[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_03]: They hold up California like it's the gold standard
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_03]: for environmental policy, and I've done segment after segment
[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_03]: after segment on just how poor they are
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_03]: in environmental standards, despite what you've heard,
[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_03]: whether it's preventing forest fires and forest management,
[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_03]: endangered species, water conservation,
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_03]: they're one of the worst states in everything.
[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Poverty, energy prices as you just mentioned,
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_03]: they pay 61% more on average the last time I checked
[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_03]: than the rest of the country because of outrageous policy.
[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_03]: The good news is that Gavin Newsen or anyone
[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_03]: who takes the EPA helm would be just as restrained
[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_03]: as the person who's there right now.
[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_03]: So there is a limit, thank God, because of federalism,
[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_03]: the states do have a say in this,
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_03]: individuals do have a say in this.
[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately we have to litigate,
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_03]: so their approach has been in the past
[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_03]: to either break the law in my opinion,
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_03]: or maybe it would be more accurate to say,
[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_03]: they read the law in such an incredulous way,
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_03]: stretching any possible definition
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_03]: to be able to expand their power,
[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and then it's up to you, the violated state
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_03]: or individual to go in and fight them in court,
[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_03]: which is extremely expensive
[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_03]: and few people can afford to do it.
[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not afraid that a really bad EPA administrator
[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_03]: could be much worse than the one we have now
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_03]: or others that we've had in the past,
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_03]: we still have the constitution for now to protect us.
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So I wouldn't lose too much sleep over Gavin Newsen
[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_03]: attempting to bring the bad California policy
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_03]: to the federal level because frankly,
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_03]: they're already doing it,
[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_03]: they may have been as hard as they can,
[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_03]: and so far we've been able to hold off that onslaught.
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, again, let's talk about that for a minute
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_06]: because sometimes by re-defining terms,
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_06]: what it means to be a man or a woman,
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_06]: we've seen that, for example, the whole transgender issue,
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_06]: or I know of individuals that have a pawn
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_06]: that somehow is considered navigable water.
[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And so you see all sorts of private property rights
[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_06]: just flying out the window,
[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_06]: and as you point out,
[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_06]: maybe you will eventually win in court, but at what cost?
[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Isn't that the problem?
[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Very few people have the ability to fight.
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_03]: They almost have to have a public policy legal interest
[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_03]: or a public interest legal foundation
[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_03]: to be able to come in and fight their battle for them
[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_03]: because they can't afford it.
[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_03]: The feds know they can just steamroll
[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_03]: over the individuals and ranchers and farmers.
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_03]: As you just mentioned,
[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_03]: waters of the United States
[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_03]: was a very highly controversial concept.
[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_03]: If there was so much as a puddle
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_03]: that would form in your backyard after a storm,
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_03]: they would call that a navigable water.
[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And therefore they could regulate it
[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_03]: as the federal government
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_03]: because of their interpretation
[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_03]: of what a navigable water is.
[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a perfect example
[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_03]: of how they try to expand their power
[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_03]: that's very dangerous.
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It's totally unprincipled, totally dishonest.
[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_03]: What it amounts to is a power grab
[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_03]: because think about how much more physical land
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_03]: they have jurisdiction over
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_03]: by behaving that way and laying down those regs
[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_03]: than they did before.
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean they have endless creativity.
[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And again, these are all these bureaucrats,
[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_03]: unelected, you don't even know their name.
[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't get rid of them
[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_03]: in those basements in Washington along the mall
[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_03]: and all those agencies making up all of these ways
[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_03]: to take your land and money and freedom.
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Let's see if we can for just a minute,
[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_06]: talk about the Green New Deal.
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_06]: That's one of the things I have in one of my booklets
[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_06]: here because if indeed you have
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_06]: the Kamala Harris administration,
[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_06]: and again we asked if that would be the case
[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_06]: with Kathy, what might that be?
[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Because she has been a sponsor of the Green New Deal.
[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Can you explain what that is and what that might mean
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_06]: if indeed she would be able to get that passed in Congress?
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, okay so it morphs over time.
[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Every time they think of some new giveaway
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_03]: to their donors, they throw that in too.
[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's very difficult to say exactly
[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_03]: what all it encompasses but let's put it this way.
[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_03]: It will be the most expansive growth or spike in their power
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_03]: over just about every facet of your life.
[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's about extracting more and more money
[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_03]: from the taxpayer to fund these boondoggles
[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_03]: like Selendra being the poster child
[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_03]: but there are so many, there are hundreds.
[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_03]: We talk about Selendra like,
[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_03]: oh that happened one time, one bad idea.
[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_03]: No, it happens all the time, a lot of bad ideas.
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And Trump is now fixated on one of them
[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_03]: where there is a program to build
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_03]: all these electric vehicle charging stations
[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_03]: and it was like a billion dollar price tag or more
[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_03]: and they built like nine.
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_03]: So, and again he's just pulling out the greatest hits.
[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_03]: He's not pulling out, we wouldn't have enough time
[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_03]: for all the giveaways.
[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So whatever they can conceivably call
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_03]: an environmental benefit with their bogus studies
[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: like I'm covering this week in my show, they're gonna try.
[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So they'll never run out of ideas
[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_03]: and the Green New Deal couldn't pass in Congress obviously
[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_03]: so what do they do?
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_03]: They tucked it into the Inflation Reduction Act,
[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_03]: so called Inflation Reduction Act
[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_03]: which was the opposite of an Inflation Reduction Act.
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever you throw a bunch of money at into the economy
[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_03]: and you had to print those dollars, you're inflating.
[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_03]: That's why when you were seeing it, right?
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Believe your lying eyes please.
[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So look at the price tag at the grocery store.
[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Let's take another phone call real quickly
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_06]: and we'll head out to North Carolina.
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_06]: William, thank you for joining us today.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, thank you for being on
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and thank you for our guests today.
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I am inspired and tremendously enlightened on your update.
[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to comment that we were arguing
[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: the responsibility to manage the resources on the planet.
[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what you're saying ma'am, that we're doing that.
[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: We have the ability to do that, that's our responsibility.
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And then when I keep right on hearing all this
[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_01]: climate stuff, the Bible says
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_01]: while the earth remains, the time the harvest,
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_01]: cold and heat, once on a summer day and night
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_01]: shall not cease.
[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So God not gonna let me happen to the planet
[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_01]: that He given us this is believable to manage.
[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, thank you, a blessing for what you do Kirby.
[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Let me just mention that one of my booklets here
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_06]: talks to you to, for example Psalm 24,
[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_06]: the earth is the Lord's in the fullness thereof.
[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_06]: If you go even into the Old Testament,
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_06]: there are all sorts of very wise management principles,
[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_06]: biblical principles.
[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And it just seems to me that sometimes
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_06]: one of the biggest concerns I have is that
[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_06]: right now we have evidence that suggests
[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_06]: that interest in the environment
[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_06]: is inversely related to church attendance.
[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_06]: In other words, the more dedicated you are as a Christian,
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_06]: the less likely you are to be concerned
[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_06]: about the environment.
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And I know why part of that is,
[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_06]: I used to be involved in some of the environmental issues
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_06]: just like you were.
[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And then I started seeing all these kind of new age people
[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_06]: and all the rest go into it.
[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think sometimes Christians back out,
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_06]: but we should be the best examples of people
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_06]: that want to wisely use and steward
[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_06]: the resources that we have.
[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I agree, I wanna be very clear.
[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that the duty to steward the earth is a duty.
[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not negotiable.
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not maybe kind of if it's not even last priority.
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_03]: We have to care about the earth.
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And what we want is honesty.
[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_03]: What we want is authenticity in the debate
[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_03]: and in our goals and what we're doing here.
[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't mean redistribute wealth
[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_03]: to the federal government and let them run your life.
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It means care about the real issues.
[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I remember, as I said,
[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I was a strident environmentalist when I was a teenager
[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_03]: and I was raised in the church.
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_03]: We were every Sunday people.
[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And I remember I went to the summer enrichment course
[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_03]: and the professor had a video for us to watch
[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_03]: and he explained that humans are the cancer of the earth.
[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yes, for sure.
[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And why we're the problem.
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_03]: If only humans would go extinct, the earth would be fine.
[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the day I realized, wait a minute,
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_03]: what am I doing here?
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that guy's not representative of everyone
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_03]: but that is brazenly false and anti-human
[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_03]: and dangerous if taken to its logical conclusion.
[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's part of what I'm fighting here, right?
[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw David Rockefeller give a speech in Washington
[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_03]: and he said that he, we're almost out of time
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_03]: but said the same thing and I strongly disagree.
[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_06]: We'll get to that comment after the break
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_06]: and if you'd like to join us, 1-800-351-1212,
[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_06]: we'll be back right after this.
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[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Meg Ronskin, if you would like to join the conversation
[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_06]: 1-800-351-1212, I was gonna leave the last segment
[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_06]: here to talk about the Petrodollar,
[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_06]: one of our callers wants to get into that as well
[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_06]: with bricks but first of all,
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_06]: you were talking about hearing Rockefeller talk about this
[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_06]: and even hearing people refer to human beings
[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_06]: as parasites and cancer and all the rest.
[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_06]: That's when you say,
[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_06]: that's not a biblical view of human nature is it?
[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_03]: That is an emphatically anti-biblical view of the world
[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_03]: and of God's, one of God's greatest creations
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_03]: of course being us and so yeah,
[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I rejected that wholesale
[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_03]: and that's when I really began to turn
[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_03]: on the environmental movement
[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_03]: and pay closer attention to maybe there's a bigger agenda here
[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_03]: than just I was the recycler,
[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't use a hair spray in an aerosol can,
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_03]: no chlorofluorocarbons.
[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I've always been an evangelizer about something,
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I've always got a cause and that was my cause at the time
[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_03]: and so I totally turned from that
[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_03]: and began really becoming suspicious
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_03]: of the people at the top.
[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I interviewed Patrick Green who's the founder
[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_03]: of Greenpeace, or Patrick Moore, excuse me.
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_03]: He's the founder of Greenpeace on my show multiple times
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_03]: and he's amazing, very strident environmentalist, PhD
[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_03]: and he said, listen,
[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_03]: the environmental movement has changed dramatically
[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_03]: since its founding in the 70s.
[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, we did amazing things,
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_03]: we saved whales, we saved baby seals,
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_03]: we did all these things that you heard about.
[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, but eventually when the money really gushed in,
[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_03]: priorities changed and be careful.
[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Look out for the foreign money that flows
[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_03]: into the Green movement because guess what?
[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_03]: If you are an OPEC country or you're Russia,
[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_03]: what you want more than anything
[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_03]: is for the environmental movement of the United States
[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_03]: to destroy the oil and gas production
[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_03]: in the United States,
[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_03]: that's their number one competitor,
[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_03]: it's driving down their revenues.
[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Think about this, there's nothing more they want
[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_03]: than to eliminate our fossil fuel production
[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_03]: so they're on board with the Green movement
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_03]: as long as it's not in their country.
[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_03]: The day that Greenpeace goes to Riyadh,
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_03]: it's out of Arabia or Tehran, then I'll be impressed.
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't see that day coming or to Moscow, please.
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Not happening.
[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, let's see if we can talk about the Petrodollar
[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_06]: because that's one of the things
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_06]: and of course one of our callers wants to talk
[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_06]: about BRICS but again for people that are not familiar
[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_06]: there was a decision long ago,
[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_06]: we can go into the details if we want
[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_06]: about the fact that if you were to purchase oil
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_06]: from Saudi Arabia, you would do use American dollars
[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_06]: and that's where the dollar became the reserve currency.
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_06]: You can go to Bretton Woods
[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_06]: in a variety of other decisions
[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_06]: but we are in a different kind of world now aren't we?
[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah so people need to understand
[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_03]: that that was so critically important
[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_03]: because oil is the most traded commodity on the planet
[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_03]: even today by miles, by miles.
[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Whoever told you that oil is yesterday
[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_03]: and we're moving beyond oil
[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_03]: and we're keeping it in the ground
[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_03]: and we're transitioning, please.
[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't find a source anywhere on earth
[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_03]: that will tell you otherwise
[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_03]: including US government sources run by very green advocates
[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_03]: so first of all, around World War I
[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_03]: it became obvious that if you're gonna be a superpower
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_03]: you'd better have a supply of oil
[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_03]: that you can rely on to run your country.
[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_03]: The BRICS were running on coal
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_03]: which was great because they had a lot of it
[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_03]: but wanted to transition to oil
[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_03]: so they were investing in Iran
[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_03]: with the Anglo-Iranian oil company
[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_03]: which eventually becomes BP, British petroleum.
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So the BRICS are locking up Iran
[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_03]: and at the same time, long afterwards
[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_03]: we start locking up Saudi Arabia.
[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be our store
[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_03]: so everybody's kind of rushing
[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_03]: to make sure that they've got locked up what they need
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_03]: and so our relationship with the House of Saud
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_03]: goes all the way back there.
[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_03]: That's like the 1930s, this is a long time ago
[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_03]: right.
[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And people cannot even dream of the world
[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_03]: that existed back then
[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_03]: that we're still in the same framework with the Saudis
[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_03]: which is the House of Saud conquered Saudi Arabia
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_03]: with 200 guys on camels.
[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and then this is in the 1900s
[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_03]: not knowing this gold mine that was under their feet.
[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So this weird bizarre history
[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_03]: and the Iranians didn't know what they had at the time.
[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_03]: So we formed this relationship.
[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_03]: It explains why we might be so cozy
[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_03]: with people who don't share our values
[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_03]: and in fact were the home country
[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_03]: for many of the hijackers for 9-11
[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_03]: and we have all these bizarre ironic relationships.
[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we agreed to provide them with defense.
[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_03]: They agreed to provide us with oil
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_03]: and that all made sense.
[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You can see why this made sense.
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Now we're reaching an era where
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_03]: maybe we're not the top dog for long militarily.
[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we're not the best, the strong horse
[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_03]: they want to pick to be with.
[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Our agreement is only as good
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_03]: as our ability to keep our half of it.
[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_03]: If we've got anyone who can align against us
[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_03]: and take us down, maybe they need to rethink what they're doing.
[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what you're seeing right now with the BRICS.
[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_03]: BRICS means other countries that have come together
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_03]: in an economic alliance, Brazil, Russia, India, China,
[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_03]: South Africa and now lots of other countries
[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_03]: are joining the BRICS and it's scary
[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_03]: because it means they're lining up
[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_03]: against a different currency than ours.
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Will, one of the calls wants to get into that.
[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_06]: So Roy in South Carolina, thank you for joining us today.
[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you Kirby.
[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It's an interesting topic.
[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I had a presentation read or listened to the other day.
[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I think Vladimir Putin is hosting a meeting in Russia,
[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_00]: forget the name of the city,
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_00]: with BRICS October 22nd or there about.
[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And their intent is pretty much to dethrone the dollar
[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_00]: for the reserve currency that it is,
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_00]: but what are they gonna replace it with?
[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Something backed by gold
[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_00]: and if you can trust these folks,
[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_00]: that's another big thing.
[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But where do we stand?
[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Is our national debt accumulating at a trillion dollars
[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_00]: every 100 days or so?
[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Any quick comments?
[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_06]: We're only almost out of time.
[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Sam, I mean, you hit all the key points
[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_03]: as far as the danger that we're in
[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_03]: and we're going quickly in the wrong direction,
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_03]: no country can print this much money
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_03]: or run up this much debt and survive it.
[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_03]: People see this coming,
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_03]: which is why they're anxious
[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_03]: to consider other alternatives.
[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_03]: BRICS is definitely stockpiling gold and silver
[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_03]: and other resources.
[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_03]: You might say some of these countries
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_03]: have an oil backed currency.
[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You might say the US has an oil backed currency,
[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_03]: frankly.
[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Any commodity, anything, any store of value
[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_03]: and obviously commodities are the ancient stores of value,
[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_03]: like gold and wheat and oil.
[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe not oil, okay.
[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But any of those things can help back them up
[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_03]: and then you have this whole idea
[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_03]: of the digital currencies, the crypto currencies.
[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_03]: They're not backed by anything
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_03]: except the trust people put in them.
[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Putin's even allowing Bitcoin mining,
[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_06]: so we'll see where all that goes.
[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and I have a lot of thoughts
[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_03]: about that that we don't have time for right now.
[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, they're gonna find a way to cobble together.
[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Something other than the dollar.
[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Correct, they just want somewhere to run to
[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_03]: when this dollar collapses as any honest person
[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_03]: would tell you if we don't correct course fast
[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_03]: and bring in our own commodities
[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_03]: to try to straighten this out
[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_03]: or fix the balance sheet a little,
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_03]: we're gonna have a lot of trouble.
[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I see kind of the winding down
[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_06]: of the American Empire a little bit.
[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Let me just mention that if you want more information,
[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_06]: we have a link to jackiedailey.com.
[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Jackie spelled with an I
[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_06]: and of course you don't have to remember how to spell it
[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_06]: because it's all there on the website.
[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Also I have that very interesting interview
[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_06]: she did with Kevin Freeman
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_06]: about energy politics and the petrodollar.
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_06]: We only mentioned it in passing
[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_06]: but the hour goes very fast when you're in studio.
[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_06]: So we're gonna have to get you back here
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_06]: a little more often
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_06]: and it has been a delight to have you here.
[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_06]: But again, if people go to Jackie daily,
[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_06]: they can hear you,
[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_06]: they wanna write and ask a question,
[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_06]: they can do that as well.
[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you come and speak?
[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_06]: That's all available, isn't it?
[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right, sure is.
[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so great to be with you
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_03]: and the guests had wonderful questions.
[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You have a smart audience.
[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I think we do.
[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_06]: We try to educate them
[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_06]: and second hour we're gonna get back
[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_06]: into the Democratic Convention
[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_06]: although we gave you a little bit of a look
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_06]: into the issue of climate change,
[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_06]: energy production, the petrodollar.
[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_06]: We have a lot more to cover
[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_06]: and of course, Kamala Harris will be speaking tonight.
[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Don't forget that tomorrow we'll have Dr. Merrill Matthews
[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_06]: and Kelly Shackleford in studio.
[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_06]: We'll have a round table discussion.
[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Let's take a break.
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_06]: We'll be back right after this.
[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_05]: In 19th century London,
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_05]: two towering historical figures did battle
[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_05]: not with guns and bombs,
[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_05]: but words and ideas.
[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_05]: London was home to Karl Marx,
[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_05]: the father of communism
[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_05]: and legendary Baptist preacher Charles Spurgeon.
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_05]: London was in many ways the center of the world,
[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_05]: economically, militarily and intellectually.
[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Marx sought to destroy religion, the family
[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_05]: and everything the Bible supports.
[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Spurgeon stood against him,
[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_05]: warning of socialism's dangers.
[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Spurgeon understood Christianity
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