Point of View August 19, 2026 – Hour 1 : Can You Hear Me Now?

[00:00:04] Across America, live, this is Point of View, Kerby Anderson. Thank you for joining me. It is a Wednesday edition of Point of View, so grateful you could join us. Going to spend a little bit of time talking about the primaries last night, and we'll get more into that as the week unfolds, because there are some very significant elements unfolding in that regard.

[00:00:34] We'll get into some issues in the news at the bottom of the hour. I really want you to be aware of this new film coming out, Can You Hear Me Now?, and it includes one of the last interviews that Charlie Kirk did for that film. A good friend of ours, of course, Kelly Shackelford is in the film. We'll talk more about that with the director of that documentary at the bottom of the hour.

[00:00:57] Next hour, we're going to talk with a pilot who actually has a lot of lessons that apply to the Christian life that I think you will appreciate, and also just which is part of his new book. And then we'll get into some other topics in the news. So a lot to cover today. And of course, if we don't get to all of it, I might just as a program note say that our good friend Robert Knight, who I quoted yesterday, is going to be on with us tomorrow.

[00:01:21] We're going to look at a couple of his books and resources there as well. And of course, we have our Friday weekend edition. But we'll start out in Florida. And that is the very interesting Democratic issue there in terms of the U.S. Senate is one in which you now have somebody who is even more leftist, even more progressive than the current individual Alex Vindman running.

[00:01:47] And that is Angie Nixon. So in some respects, the Republicans are now saying that given the fact that she is so radical and probably easy to tie her to some of the other rather unbelievably radical things being said by some Democratic candidates around the country, that this will probably make it a little bit easier for the current individual who was actually appointed to the seat by Ron DeSantis.

[00:02:13] That's Ashley Moody, who was actually in the seat, which was vacated by, of course, Senator Marco Rubio. So in Florida, that looks like it's even more likely that Florida went from being kind of a swing state to a pretty solid red state. I think you can probably assume unless some major scandal or issue surfaces that she will be then elected in the fall. But of course, you will have to wait to find that out as well. Most of the incumbents won.

[00:02:43] One that lost a Republican, Corey Mills, not too much of a surprise there, faced a number of scandals, including allegations of domestic violence and a number of others. It began to be abandoned by Governor Ron DeSantis, other state officials in the case. So that is certainly something we've been watching. And I just thought we'll probably get back into some of this tomorrow because we're going to have a guest, interestingly enough,

[00:03:09] who has lived both in Florida and Alaska to talk a little bit more about what we mentioned yesterday in terms of some of these energy policies coming out of both Florida and Alaska. But when you go to Alaska, you at least have to mention in passing the fact that there's a little bit of a confusion, which everybody says, oh, it's just an accident.

[00:03:30] No, I think it was intended because if you're not familiar, the representative or actually the senator who's a Republican from Alaska is Senator Dan Sullivan. But in the primary, you had another Dan Sullivan. Now, he's, I guess, technically listed in the ballot as Daniel J. Sullivan Jr. But a lot of people said, come on, this is almost like a sham candidate.

[00:03:53] An individual is a retired teacher but has the same name as the individual who is the U.S. senator. I don't think that confused too many people in Alaska. But, of course, you just never know. And I could spend some time talking about how that was used effectively by Democrats in the state of Texas. But that's another story for another day because I wanted to get into a couple of these articles that I have posted. And one kind of fits a theme.

[00:04:21] If you were listening yesterday at all, we talked about Robert Knight and his piece about woke two is really going to be no different than woke one. And I thought it would be good to put this piece by Beckett Adams there because some of you might say, okay, what's this woke one, woke two stuff?

[00:04:39] Well, it goes back to AOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the representative from New York, a Democrat, who said, well, woke one was really crazy when she had an appearance on ABC News. Woke one was crazy, she said. And, of course, then Jonathan Carl said, well, that's the truth. And they're both laughing at the whole time because, you know, back then, you know, we didn't know what we were talking about. We talked about defund the police.

[00:05:03] And we really didn't mean it, which is exactly why I'm going to bring on Robert Knight tomorrow because he has a piece about the Trojan horse of the Democrats. And also, woke two is certainly the same as woke one. And this idea that, well, these are taken out of context or something else. The other argument was, well, and this is, again, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez saying, I think that during this time and during, especially during COVID, there was a huge opening of the Overton window.

[00:05:33] That is, considered more ideas than had been considered before. We were shut down. There were some of the highest unemployment rates that we had seen. I think the doors really opened in trying to entertain. And every policy was going to get to us a better place. And I actually think the discussions at that time were quite fruitful. So she's kind of laughing about it and saying, you know, when we talk about crime, you know, of course, we have to recognize that we need the police.

[00:05:59] And, of course, defunding the police really didn't mean what we said it meant at the time. And, of course, that's where Beckett Adams says, this is total nonsense. She's simply trying to rewrite the record. And it's as dishonest, he says, as it is brazen. It's also glaringly obvious what this is, a cleanup attempt by someone with aspirations for higher office. And then he goes through this very long list, and I'll just touch a few in the interest of time.

[00:06:26] We had the cancel culture in existence long before we had anything like the pandemic and the lockdown. That really was mentioned quite often in 2018, long before we had anything that happened in 2020. Also, Woke One was far worse than just cabin fever rhetoric. He points out that you go all the way back to 2014.

[00:06:52] Which somebody we mentioned before, Brandon Eich, was forced out of Mozilla simply because he'd made a donation to California's Proposition 8. That campus lectures around the country were being canceled. Or even abruptly ended because of the threat of violence from radicalized students. Of course, we had all the drag shows for children developing. You have the accusations he talked about of West Point cadets to firemen being covert racist.

[00:07:19] Efforts to cancel everything from Laura Ingalls Wilder to Mark Twain. Not to forget toppling down not just the monuments of, like, Civil War generals, but Theodore Roosevelt and Franciscan missionary Junipero Serra. The Smithsonian Institution, as we've talked about before, talks about the assumptions of whiteness and white culture. You had Ryan T. Anderson's book, When Harry Became Sally, responding to the transgender moment,

[00:07:48] actually removed by Amazon. Well, it's still published, by the way, Mein Kampf. And then just even attempts to reopen the schools were rooted in so-called sexism, racism, misogyny. And he says all of this was before or during COVID-19. You can remember the microaggressions, cultural appropriation, all these kinds of things. And so Woke One was not just COVID-19 hysteria.

[00:08:17] Lives were ruined. Businesses destroyed. Industries cowed. Sectarian violence applauded. And social justice charlots and junk scientists were given free expression. It's a very good piece to remind us that there is a very definite attempt to rewrite history. We're going to spend more time on that tomorrow with our friend Robert Knight. But I encourage you to read this first article by Beckett Adams,

[00:08:44] because there's really a deliberate attempt to rewrite history. We'll be right back. This is Viewpoints with Kerby Anderson. Already two Democratic Senate candidates are promoting the idea of having the government cancel medical debt.

[00:09:12] If this campaign promise gains any attention, expect other candidates to also propose the same government promise. The problem of medical debt is a major problem for Americans. Over 100,000 Americans carry a total of $220 billion in medical debt. Until a few days ago, I was one of those people. I may not have been in the total since I was paying off my debt to a hospital just over a two-month period. But some of these people with medical debt have significant obligations.

[00:09:38] About 14 million adults owe more than $1,000, with 3 million with a debt over $10,000. This is a level of debt that also affects their credit scores. Although medical debt is a problem, these proposals ignore the reason for them in the first place. As we often explain on my radio program, patients are disconnected from medical cost. I suggest that if my guests and I go out to dinner, their menu decisions would be influenced by whether I was paying for the dinner or each person was paying for the meal.

[00:10:08] If someone else is paying for the dinner, you pay less attention to price. Another problem is the sad fact that many government policies limit or even eliminate competition in the medical marketplace. Some government rules even grant insurance companies wider latitude to overcharge patients. This is a case where the government makes medical expenses higher, so the solution from these senatorial candidates is to deal with the symptom rather than the problem. If canceling medical debt becomes a fashionable campaign promise,

[00:10:37] perhaps we should ask the candidates to address the problem and not the symptom. I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view. Go deeper on topics like you just heard by visiting pointofview.net. That's pointofview.net. You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth.

[00:11:06] Back once again, if we can, let's go to our second article, which I've posted by Mark Lewis. And I think you will find that helpful as well because it has the very obvious conclusion that they have no stopping point. And I think that is something to pay attention to. And as we so often talk about discernment, we're really going to get into that tomorrow with Robert Knight. Sometimes people think, well, if we just go this far, then that will be the end.

[00:11:34] But if you have any sense of history, especially with socialists, communists, and right now we're talking about democratic socialists who in many cases I think do qualify as communists, you can see that they have no stopping point. And he just gives us a bit of a history lesson. And I think from time to time it's good to do that. I think those of us who are older know this, but I recognize that some of my younger listeners have said, I really never studied this in school.

[00:12:02] We never talked about Lenin and Stalin and Mao. And we never really looked at what happened when you've had socialist revolutions in other countries. So if you'll allow me to pull up a blackboard here and conduct a very short class, let's talk about there is no stopping point. Because Mark Lewis starts with a quote from a historian who said, Lenin did not make the mistake of revealing what communist society would be like.

[00:12:30] He says, a recent Breitbart headline says, Democratic Socialists of America lawmaker declares stealing should not be illegal. By the way, if you watch some of the talking head shows, they've now had some people going out on the streets and saying, do you think stealing should be illegal? And of course the argument is as well, given the fact that this is an unjust society, and that many of these corporations make a lot of money, stealing shouldn't be illegal.

[00:12:58] Matter of fact, it shouldn't even be considered immoral. I'm just waiting for the first person who's holding the microphone to grab the iPhone out of their hand and walk down the street and say, wait, wait, you can't do that. Well, you look like you'd afford to get another iPhone, so I think stealing is just fine. They don't really believe that, but that's what they say. And the point that Mark Lewis is, is that here the headline did not surprise him. He says, these people have no conscience. Their only moral standard is what they say it is.

[00:13:26] I guarantee you that her meaning actually is, stealing will be wrong for you, but it won't be wrong for us. And I will prove to you in this article that the left's definition of stealing is, of course, very different than yours. And he said, look, first of all, no, Lenin did not make the mistake of telling people what he was going to bring to them. Now, I sort of agree with that and sort of disagree with that. One of the things that I was required to do when I was in graduate school

[00:13:55] the second time in taking classes in political theory was to read Marx and Lenin and Stalin and Mao. Now, I'll be the first to say that if you ever took the time to read Lenin, and I don't recommend it for the faint-hearted, you do get some inklings that he's going to take a lot of the property away from individuals. And for those of you that are less likely to read a book, how about I recommend a movie, Dr. Zhivago.

[00:14:25] If you, if nothing else, don't have the time to even watch Dr. Zhivago, just type in maybe on a YouTube, Dr. Zhivago loses his house. Because Boris Pasternak, who wrote that, has Dr. Zhivago coming back to this beautiful home, and it's been taken over by the government, and 12 families are living in his home. I mean, because everything is now a commune. And if nothing else, as he points out,

[00:14:55] it's very probable that even if Lenin had told his people what to expect, they wouldn't have believed him. And that, I think, is the real point of the rest of this. Because he goes on to say, look, common people, and in particular even American Democrats, simply decline to believe what the left will really do, or what they have done or doing elsewhere in the world. And yet, we can recognize that there were probably people that denied that this would happen,

[00:15:23] and yet they were some of the people that were killed in Russia, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, you know the list if you've been around any kind of history. And he says these people, the left, simply have no stopping point. They do not believe in God, so they do not believe in an absolute, final, fixed moral code that applies to all people everywhere, and especially that applies to them. They don't believe it applies to them at all.

[00:15:51] And he goes, well, where are they stopping? He goes and gives us a list. Well, they aren't stopping at murdering unborn babies. They aren't stopping at butchering children for their sexual purposes. They aren't stopping at denying the distinction between man and woman. They're stopping at redefining what true marriage is. They're not stopping at destroying the nuclear family. You can kind of get the point. I mean, so why are they going to stop at just stealing? You can see this. And then he gives us some of the history.

[00:16:18] And since some of you probably would be a little offended by his history, he just reminds us, and I'll read the things that are less graphic, that Stalin stole the land of the peasants and the rich farmers, although in most cases Lenin and Stalin just killed them. But, again, you can take the example in Dr. Zhivago if you want. Miu Tzai-Jung, of course, you know, began stealing the land of the peasants, and he goes through all the things that happened there.

[00:16:46] And just, again, take a moment to type in genocide from Marxists, genocide from communists, and you will read the very sad history of what has happened once the assumption is that you are making too much and all of us need to benefit, and so we're going to take away those things that you thought were private property. And he says, of course, the biggest problem is

[00:17:14] that this philosophy of community, if you will, and communism isn't traditional America, and so that's why he says a lot of Americans are kind of confused because they really can't really believe that people will go to that extreme. And yet we've seen it before, not only in other countries, but even occasionally in our own. It brings us back to, you remember all the things that happened on what is now called

[00:17:44] WOKE 1.0? And we're supposedly at WOKE 2.0 now. And so he says this is the problem. Many will say, surely it won't happen here in America. And he says, tell me one reason why it won't. They murder babies, they mutilate children, they destroy families, allow barbarian criminals to roam our streets, prey upon and kill the innocent, and all of a sudden you're going to draw the line at

[00:18:11] stealing is legal and should be illegal. I think it's about time to recognize that if you begin to give away each particular point and eventually draw a red line, but retreat behind it because they cross that red line and draw another red line and retreat behind it again, eventually you're going to end up with a world that is very different than the world you grew up in,

[00:18:40] the world your parents and grandparents grew up in. And so that's why there is a real concern. Do I think, honestly, that even if we elect a half a dozen more socialists into Congress, that they're going to turn the country around? No. Do I think that they will spend the next two years using Congress as a bully pulpit to talk about this and do all they can to win more people over, recognizing that the younger you are,

[00:19:09] the more likely you are to believe that socialism is preferable to capitalism? I think that's the real issue. And again, providing that brings us back to, of course, the booklet that we're just now mailing out called Woke Christianity. And that is you're seeing more and more candidates, some of whom have theological degrees, making cases for socialism and all sorts of ideas

[00:19:34] that wouldn't even have been discussed in political realm not so long ago. So this is another very good piece by Mark Lewis. It's the kind of thing that you might want to print out, maybe read around the dinner table. It's a little bit overwhelming sometimes, but it's a good way, especially if you have some children and grandchildren that say, well, what's wrong? We'll just all hold hands, sing Kumbaya, and everything will turn out just fine.

[00:20:02] Well, I think we recognize that that probably is not the trajectory we want to go on. And just as we go to our break, let me just mention my commentary today is about medical debt. And we do have a number of Democratic senatorial candidates suggesting, hey, maybe we could just wave a wand and get rid of medical debt. And I do recognize that is a problem. But they are not addressing the reason we have the debt. And so they're simply wanting to just say,

[00:20:31] at a time when we're only $40 trillion in debt, let's just have the government erase all sorts of medical debt and, as a result, make people even more beholding to the state and usher in this socialist utopia. So, again, you might want to read my commentary. But most importantly, when we come back from the break, this new film is one that I think you're going to be very interested in. It's a documentary. Can You Hear Me Now?

[00:20:59] And we are privileged to bring to the conversation today the director, an award-winning filmmaker and creative director, Matthew Thayer. And so after the break, we're going to spend some time talking about a film. And in that film, one of the last interviews Charlie Kirk did before he was killed on September 10, 2025. We'll come back and talk about that film and how you can watch it, show it to your family, to your church. All that coming up right after this.

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[00:22:59] You are listening to Point of View. The opinions expressed on Point of View do not necessarily reflect the views of the management or staff of this station. And now, here again, is Kerby Anderson. Back once again to spend some time now talking about this film that I'm very excited about, Can You Hear Me Now? And I might just mention that it's not out yet, but there's a way in which you can preorder it. So if you go to our website, pointofview.net, you can scroll down.

[00:23:29] You'll see a place where it says, Can You Hear Me Now? The Share button is something where you click on that, and then it allows you to copy the information, and then you can send it by email to someone or post it on your Facebook page or X or whatever you might want to do. If you click on the button that says, Learn More, or you can go just to CanYouHearMeNowFilm.com, you will see the information that we have there.

[00:23:54] And we also, of course, have an opportunity for you to watch a very short trailer. Actually, there's two trailers that you can watch. And you will, of course, notice, first of all, that this was an interview that was done just really two weeks before the tragic death, the assassination of Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025. You will recognize someone else as you watch the trailer. That would be Kelly Shackelford, who oftentimes is with us on Friday.

[00:24:21] He won't be with us this Friday, but one of his staff will be there. But many times Kelly's in here talking about the importance of religious liberty and the rest. And so I thought you would like to know more about this film before it comes out. And the documentary film is premiering on Salem now on September 10. But, again, there's information that you can find there as well.

[00:24:44] And we are privileged to have with us Matthew Thayer, who is the award-winning filmmaker and creative director, who has a video branding agency. Individuals worked on all sorts of different films. So, Matthew, thank you for joining us today here on Point of View. Hey, Gary. How are you? Thanks for having me on. Well, glad to have you on.

[00:25:07] This is something that I wanted to expose our audience to and recognize that it isn't out yet, but it will be. And that gives a chance for people to preorder it if they would like to do so, to check it out, to watch some of the videos that are available, the trailers and the rest. But, really, the question is, does God still speak to us? And, more importantly, since many of the people you're interviewing were politically active,

[00:25:34] I've just mentioned two of those individuals, does that have an influence and has that had an influence in our culture? But give us a little bit of the background, because I think as people click on there, they will be able to learn about the film, the cast, and see some of the trailers. But perhaps you can do the best job of explaining what the direction was. Yeah, so, you know, we set out to kind of explore.

[00:26:00] There was kind of a fissure that happened in the prophetic movement around the 2020 election. A lot of people came out saying, like, oh, Trump's going to win. And then when Biden was crowned victorious, a lot of people backed off from that word. But then there were other people that kind of doubled down. And so it was like, that's interesting. And the people that doubled down were saying, like, well, no, actually he did win. And that the election was stolen.

[00:26:29] And having done a couple documentaries on election fraud, I have seen the evidence of it. And that evidence is now starting to come out with drifts and drabs showing that, you know, we probably don't have all of the people that we actually elected in places of positions of authority in our nation. And so, you know, we set out to kind of interview prophets that, you know, had had, you know, had a dream or, you know,

[00:26:57] had declared that Trump was going to be a winner but then held to their guns afterwards. And and then as we were, you know, kind of creating this, we were like, you know, this is going to come out before the elections. And, you know, how do we mobilize Christians to be a part of the national conversation? And, you know, what are some of the challenges that people have to overcome cognitively to get to that?

[00:27:20] And some of that is just like the misunderstandings of separation of church and state and Christian nationalism being thrown around and labeled on people. And so we reached out to Charlie Kirk to to speak into that. And what was crazy was that our team reached out to them and TPSA says, you know, we actually asked for a September interview because it was better for our schedule. And they said, oh, his September's packed. You know, we've got some openings in October. And we were like, oh, that's going to be too late for our schedule.

[00:27:49] And they said, well, but we have this window of opportunity on August 27th. And if you can make it down to Phoenix, we'll make it happen. And so we said, all right, done, let's do it. And so we got our team and flew down there and got to spend 45 minutes with him. TPSA is great. You know, all of the people there are just fantastic people. And we and then all of a sudden two weeks later, I'm I'm actually in the mood. I was actually just bought a house and I was in the middle of moving sweaty boxes.

[00:28:19] I live in Nashville, California. It's, you know, humid as all get out. And all of a sudden my phone starts blowing up and Charlie's been shot. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, I was just with him. You know, like what is going on? And so, you know, my wife's crying. I'm processing going like, what is it that we have? You know, why did why why was it important for us to actually get in front of him two weeks ago? And I'm asking the Lord why that's going on.

[00:28:47] And and and so, you know, my team and I worked on it and we changed a little bit of the trajectory of where we were going with the film. But we're really proud of the results. And I've never seen I've done seven documentaries in six years and I've never seen the response like I've seen with the response with this film. It's really incredible. It's creating a lot of amazing conversations, people talking and gaining a lot of attention and a lot of positive, a lot of positive feedback.

[00:29:17] So I'm really excited to see to have the world see it and have your audience see it. Well, first of all, again, people continue in September 10th and there's a link to that. But since you are making the DVD available, that I think gives you a chance to use this in other formats. Because, first of all, you say Charlie Kirk. Everybody wakes up almost instantaneously. We had him when we had our 50th anniversary banquet.

[00:29:45] We had Ben Carson and we had Michelle Bachman. But we also gave what was called the Marlon Maddox Award to Charlie Kirk. So you can imagine we had those three people in the same room at the same time. That was pretty good. And that was, of course, the last time I saw Charlie Kirk. But nevertheless, we are certainly well aware of the impact that he has made both in his life and now since then, since his death.

[00:30:08] But we also, as I mentioned just a few minutes ago, spend a fair amount of time all the time talking with people like Kelly Shackelford. He oftentimes joins us on our Friday weekend edition. And that all gets us back to some of the misinformation that people have about Christian nationalism, separation of church and state, whether Christians should even be involved in the political process. And that's really where you take it, even though, of course, you talk about whether or not we can hear from God.

[00:30:36] A lot of it gets into if we as Christians are supposed to be salt and light, how can we be salt and light if we only keep that in our churches? And so that's a second theme that comes through your film. And so I just think it's something that I wanted people to know about, if for no other reason than because it is very well produced. And you've got kind of a who's who of individuals that you've had a chance to talk to. Well, thank you.

[00:31:04] Yeah, I know William Federer is in the film as well. He's been on with us for decades. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that guy is like a historical savant. You know what I mean? I mean, it's like I sat there for three hours and interviewed him and he didn't refer to a note. I mean, he's just pulling up names and dates. It's incredible. My entire team was just mouth in a gape like, who is this guy? And but he had an amazing story as well.

[00:31:30] He shared about Thomas Hooker and the origins of Hartford, Connecticut that we put into the film that, you know, a lot of people don't realize that the Thomas Hooker, when establishing the Hartford of Connecticut, you know, his church parishioners were the only people in that town. And they came to him saying, hey, how do we set up a government? And he preached a sermon and that sermon was transcribed and used as the as the Constitution of Connecticut until the early 1800s.

[00:31:56] And so it's pretty hard for, you know, when you you know, I've shared that story with people and it's really hard for them to argue with, you know, how can you say pastors don't be involved in politics when his sermon is the one that's being used as their constitution? How can you say church, you know, churchgoers don't be involved in politics when there was nobody in Hartford except for the churchgoers? And so, you know, our our our country was actually founded by Christians.

[00:32:23] And and that's the other thing, too, is it's like I tell people, I'm like, so what you're saying when you say that we're not supposed to be involved in government, you're saying that, you know, 54 out of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were actually going against what God wants. And and, you know, and that just doesn't stand to reason. And so we have to start looking at this this this this misunderstanding. We have to realize that we've been propagandized against, you know, the principalities and the powers that be with we'd fight not against flesh and blood,

[00:32:53] although there's flesh and blood characters that we have to deal with. But ultimately, there's the principalities and powers of the air. They're very good with messaging and propaganda and human psychology better than, you know, than than than we do. And have known about all of that for centuries before it was discovered by us. Yes. And so, you know, they understand messaging and they understand how to get you to buy into a narrative that keeps you from the battlefield.

[00:33:21] Let's take a break. And when we come back, we will continue with Matthew Thayer for a little bit longer. Can you hear me now during the break? Be a great time to go to point of view dot net and check that out. And that is a great resource that we have. Of course, you can also simply go to can you hear me now film dot com. We have a link to either and both on the Web site. We'll come back and talk a little bit more about the significance of this film right after this.

[00:33:58] You're listening to point of view, your listener supported source for truth. Good evening conversation today with Matthew Thayer again, award winning filmmaker and creative director. And of course, the director behind. Can you hear me now? If you'd like to know more about that, you can certainly go to the Web site point of view dot net. Or of course, you can go directly to can you hear me now film. But we were talking about, of course, Matthew, as you well know, 250th anniversary of America.

[00:34:25] So hold up our booklet here, a biblical point of view on one nation under God, which is kind of like the cliff notes version of David Gibbs and Jerry Newcomb's book by that title. You mentioned some of the Patriot preachers. Well, here's one booklet I did on a biblical point of view on the Patriot preachers. Here's one of the declaration talking about the signers of the declaration and then one here, a biblical view on America's founding, which is really, again, almost like a cliff notes version of a very good book by Mark David Hall.

[00:34:55] Did America have a Christian founding? So we here at point of view have really tried to work even during this year and over these many years to educate the next generation about some of these issues. And I think your film provides an opportunity to educate people. So I'd like to get your thoughts about how to use it. Obviously, everybody could gather together on September 10th and watch it. There's a link there where you can watch it.

[00:35:23] But I think a number of people might say, well, this has more use. I could get a copy of this DVD, preorder it. And as a result, that would give me a chance to show that at any particular gathering and maybe educate people in the church or in the community. But you've probably been thinking about now that you produce this film, how can people use it? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[00:35:52] I mean, all of the things that you just described is exactly what I've been telling people. It's like, you know, you can't really hand somebody a digital copy of something, but you can hand somebody a physical copy of something. So, you know, preordering it and getting that free DVD if you wanted to hand it to your pastor or to, you know, a family member. You know, absolutely. That's what we're encouraging people to do. We are actually also going to be providing church screenings. Good. My wife is working on that package right now.

[00:36:19] And if anybody is listening to this and wants to contact her for that, you can just contact her at joy at spiropictures.com. That's S-P-E-R-O pictures dot com. And she can walk you through, you know, what we're going to be doing for that process. But absolutely, we really wanted this to be – I mean, we had no idea, of course, that Charlie was going to be assassinated. And, you know, I mean, it was just like crazy to be right in the middle of all of that.

[00:36:49] And we want people to hear his message and to hear, you know, the fact that God does speak. I mean, that's really what the whole film is about. But it's also – we knew this was going to be an election year. We knew that this was going to be a very contested election and probably one of the most important of our lifetime, if not the country – in the history of the country. Yeah, sorry, history of the country.

[00:37:14] But, you know, I really am challenging, you know, our brothers and sisters in Christ to do whatever we can to be a part of that, not only just the voting process, but the – you know, because – and our role doesn't just end at voting. You know, I mean, it would be stupid to say that an employer's job ends at hiring somebody. You know, it's like we still have to hold these people to account. We have to be a part of the process.

[00:37:39] We have to make sure that they're actually doing what it is that we outlined for them to do in the Constitution and holding their feet to the fire. And that's really on us because if we don't do it, somebody else will because nature does pour a vacuum and somebody's going to fill that space. And I think that that's what we're seeing. We're seeing a lot of other ideologies coming in because – simply because Christians have forgotten the heritage that was given to us by our founders. Well, again, some of the booklets we've had are things like socialism.

[00:38:07] The one I'm holding up right now is the one coming out shortly. It's a September booklet on woke Christianity. And, again, Matthew, this is not an election where people should sit it out. But I do believe that sometimes the reason young people sit it out is because they have given up any kind of hope or they are, in some cases, maybe actually even voting against their best interests because of what they've learned on the university campus.

[00:38:35] You live in California, so I'm not telling you anything you don't know. We've got all sorts of listeners from California to New York, from Florida all the way to Alaska. But, again, some of those blue states and some of those very liberal campuses are producing young people. They're convinced socialism is better than capitalism, are convinced that we need to completely transform the country. Or, in some cases, they just simply have given up the opportunity to make a positive difference.

[00:39:02] So I see your film as another tool that we can use to educate and motivate individuals. And I know that's exactly why you produced it in the first place. Absolutely. I mean, that's really what it is. You know, it's like we're, you know, a lot of people would say that we are in an information war. And, you know, I've jokingly said that I'm a weapons manufacturer in that information war in the sense that, you know,

[00:39:29] I can create something that you can share with other people. But, you know, it really doesn't do any good if nobody else watches it. So, you know, I'm really asking the people that are listening to this to find it, to watch it. If you like it, if it ministers to you, then please share it out there because we do believe that's a really, really important message and it's an important message for this time. So, again, September 10th on Salem Now, that's one of the links.

[00:39:54] There's a way in which you can also preorder, get a free DVD as a result of that order and link that up. There is a way in which if your church wanted to do an event or something of that nature, there are different ways. And so we've given you a couple of weeks to prepare for this because right now we recognize that it's just the 19th of August. And so as a result, you've got some time to set into place how you could use this in a way that might maximize its impact.

[00:40:24] So, Matthew, thank you for giving us the tools. Thank you, as you said, giving us the weapons. Now we'll go out there and fight that intellectual battle with these weapons. And our weapons are, of course, divinely powered. And so, again, I see there's just a great opportunity, if we can, to educate the next generation. And I appreciate your work in doing that and look forward to future opportunities with you. Yeah, thank you very much. And any time, just let me know. And thank you for helping us spread the word. Really appreciate it.

[00:40:52] Well, again, we're going to take a break. And when we come back, we'll get into some other issues. But one last time, you can go to our website, which I would recommend, pointofview.net. There, of course, you can scroll down. You'll see one of the boxes that says, Can You Hear Me Now? Or if you get frustrated and you just want to jump right to it, it's canyouhearmenowfilm.com. Either way is a good way to get to that. And I think you're going to find that as a resource that you can use.

[00:41:21] And, again, we're all about educating people from time to time. Of course, you know that we spend some time wanting you to go to some of the films in the theater. This one is something that you can watch on your television set if you have a smart TV or on your computer. And on most of all, you have a computer. But if not, of course, you can order the DVD. There are just a lot of different ways you can get those resources. And I think you'll find that helpful. And if nothing else, as sad as it is, really one of the last interviews with Charlie Kirk.

[00:41:50] Just two weeks before his death on September 10th, 2025. So it is encouraging that they are going to have this come out on September 10th. Which, again, I just think is just helpful in a lot of ways. And if you would like to know more about that, you can simply go to the website, pointofview.net.

[00:42:10] As you go there, don't forget, the last couple of days I have mentioned that my take action item, I guess I should call it, is all about privacy and flock cameras. And if you have not contacted your representative, there's a great opportunity for you to do so. It is something that now, after we've been talking about it for almost two weeks, everybody else on the talk show circuit is now talking about it. So I guess we were just a little ahead of the game.

[00:42:38] But, again, as we've talked before, we had Representative Keith Self on the program to talk about his bill, the Privacy Act. And it's an opportunity for you to contact your representative and encourage him or her to become a co-sponsor and to move that particular piece forward. Let's take a break. We have a lot more to cover in the second hour right after this.

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