Point of View August 17, 2026 – Hour 1 : New Biblical Curriculum For Students

[00:00:04] Across America, live, this is Point of View. And now, Kerby Anderson.

[00:00:20] Okay, happy Monday and welcome to Point of View. I'm so excited to be with you today. We have a lot lined up. It's going to be a great show. A special guest in studio that we're going to talk to you in a few minutes. But before we get to that, let me go over just a little bit of news of the day. And as you know, it's back to school season.

[00:00:37] I know my kids are jumping into the school routine with our homeschool situation this week. Lots of friends of mine who are teachers have been going back to school over the last couple of weeks, but maybe that describes you or someone in your family. And so I thought it would be good to just talk about the public school situation for a minute. I thought this was a really insightful article in the Wall Street Journal. You can follow along with all of our topics and guest information at pointofview.net.

[00:01:02] But how we got fewer and worse schools. So as you know, because we've talked about it on Point of View multiple times, the national report card, as they call it, but analytics from National Assessment of Educational Progress, that organization show that really our proficiency rates in the United States are declining. So this is from 2024's assessment, but just 31% of eighth grade students are proficient in science.

[00:01:29] Just 22% of high school seniors are proficient in math and just 35% of high school seniors are proficient in reading. Now we've talked about ed tech a lot. I've talked about that and the importance of, I believe, human involvement in teaching and education. And so we know that that has contributed. We know that the COVID pandemic and kids being kept home from schools also accelerated the decline in some of those scores. But this is something that I think is also really interesting to look at.

[00:01:59] And that is how many school districts have been consolidated throughout U.S. history. So this is from Howard Houssack. He is with the American Enterprise Institute. But he notes that, of course, teachers unions emerged really as a powerful force in the 1960s. But there were some changes that began even before that.

[00:02:20] So go back in time to circa 1940. OK, so the 1939 to 1940 school year, there were almost 120,000 local school districts in the United States, a little over 117,000 local school districts.

[00:02:37] But then between 1930s and about 1970, you started consolidating in the local school districts and actually eliminated 90% of local school districts and two thirds of schools. So today there are only 13,318 local school districts in the United States. And that includes school districts that span huge cities like New York, Los Angeles and Chicago.

[00:03:02] So think about that going from over 120,000 local school districts to then just 13,000. So what that means is a lot less community involvement in local public schools and local school districts. I grew up in a pretty rural area. So even though I was homeschooled, a lot of my friends went to public schools and their mom was the administrator. Their dad was the coach. They were involved in the local church family and everybody knew everybody.

[00:03:28] And people were pulling together to support the local school. But that kind of stuff is a lot more rare today. It's become much more bureaucratic with the authorities further and further removed from the actual families and students and communities. I don't know how common it is for the average parent who has a child in public school to actually know their school board on a personal level. But that's a lot more common in smaller districts and smaller areas.

[00:03:54] In fact, when you look at school districts that are higher performing in terms of academic achievement, they are small districts usually in suburban areas. So this is important. One, I think it reminds us of just the beauties of federalism in general and localism. So the more local control you have over a community, the better, because you can actually address the needs of specific students in your area, specific families.

[00:04:21] We live in such a diverse and large nation. And the founders knew this. They knew how big the United States of America was going to be even before it was as big as it is now. They wrote about this in the Federalist Papers. And so you really do need local control because one size fits all solutions just aren't going to cut it. So I think that's important context when we look at the state of public education today to realize just how big our school districts have gotten.

[00:04:48] And here's another thing, though, for Christians, how do we respond to this? You know, I've really become more and more convinced in my adulthood of education being discipleship. I really do believe that it is a Christian endeavor. We're going to be talking about that with my guest, who's actually here in just a minute when we get back from the break. But obviously there are a lot of ways that you can disciple in education through homeschooling or through Christian school settings.

[00:05:15] But I think so many Christians have adopted a mindset that really is a secular mindset, that schooling is just to check the box so you can get your diploma or eventually get a degree and then provide for your family by having a job. But it's so much more than that. And we may not be able to change the school system completely the way that it is today, but we can get involved as Christians, even if you're homeschooling, even if your kids are grown, you can still say, how can I motivate my church to get involved?

[00:05:43] So that's why I have another article posted from the Gospel Coalition called Mobilize Your Church to Serve Local Schools. I think this is such a great ministry opportunity. Point of view is all about equipping listeners to take action and make a difference. I know in the past we've had listeners who are motivated to run for their local school board and they got elected or to talk with librarians about concerns they had that about books that were in their school library and different things like that. So maybe you're asking God, what can I do to make a difference in my community?

[00:06:12] Maybe you have that time and the resources to do that. Well, think about encouraging your church, talking to your pastor or ministry leaders about getting involved. So this goes through some really great practical ways. One is an example of a church who decided that they were going to feed the football team every Friday night. So they were feeding hundreds of people. They were creating hundreds of hot meals for coaches and players and their families.

[00:06:35] What's really neat is that there is actually a retired gentleman in the community who saw what the church was doing every Friday and was so blown away by that kind of generosity that he came up to the church to ask questions about it. So that's super neat to just the witness that you can have in your community.

[00:07:00] But think about other things. A lot of times schools really need volunteers to read books to kids. They need volunteers to come up and and talk about their careers. There is actually a pastor in here mentioned who came to a career day and talked about being involved in ministry to kids. So what are other examples of how your local school might need help? This is a really insightful question. If your church were to close down or relocate with the schools nearby suffer from your absence.

[00:07:30] And does your local school think of your church as a resource? Think about what ministries your church have. Do you have a single mother's ministry? Do you have a food pantry? Does the school guidance counselor nearby know about that? Are they able to refer people to things that you were able to do to help?

[00:07:48] Another option is LifeWise Academy, which we featured on point of view before, where you can actually start a LifeWise group in your area where students with their parents permission are able to go off campus for a portion of the school day and receive biblical instruction during the school day. And it is constitutional. And if you have any questions about the mixture of religion and school and education, just go to FirstLiberty.org.

[00:08:14] Our friends have all the resources there, because a lot of times what people believe is constitutional, they think that you need separation of church and state isn't actually constitutional and you have a lot of freedom. But I want to encourage you with that, because as Christians, I do think we should be the hands and feet of Jesus, including in our public schools. We may not like the way they're performing, but the truth is the majority of kids in America go there. So let's step up. Let's minister. And if you're concerned about the worldview instruction that they might be receiving, I have a resource to tell you about.

[00:08:44] So stay with us. We'll be right back. This is Viewpoints with Kerby Anderson. Flock cameras may be even more controversial than data centers.

[00:09:09] These cameras have been set up around the country and use AI-enhanced surveillance systems that include automatic license plate readers. Representative Keith Self was on my radio program recently to talk about his bill, the Privacy Act, that addresses this issue. Now there are advantages. If your truck is stolen, police typically take a report and hope it is recovered. With this technology, law enforcement could spot the thieves on camera before you even return home. It would help with amber alerts or silver alerts.

[00:09:36] However, the camera doesn't just read the plates of a stolen truck or car carrying a passenger who needs to be found. It reads your license plate every day as you go to work, to the store, to church, to rally, to a gun store. In fact, the new camera reads more than a license plate and stays on searchable databases for an extended period. Here's the problem. One camera is a tool. More than 100,000 of them are another layer of digital surveillance.

[00:10:02] The Privacy Act would require federal law enforcement to obtain a warrant before accessing data collected. It would also limit retention of the data to 30 days unless it includes evidence for prosecution or court orders and extension. We supposedly have Fourth Amendment protections against unlawful searches, but many of those protections are fading because of surveillance technology.

[00:10:24] Congressman Self reminded us that Americans' right to be secure in their privacy does not disappear just because of new technology or artificial intelligence. This is a common sense legislation that allows the benefits but protects us from potential abuses. I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my point of view.

[00:10:49] Go deeper on topics like you just heard by visiting pointofview.net. That's pointofview.net. You're listening to Point of View, your listener-supported source for truth. Okay, in studio with me, Andrea Crum. She is a biblical worldview apologetics and family discipleship leader. She equips families with biblical truth for navigating today's cultural chaos.

[00:11:18] She is a wife and mom of two, and she combines her passion for the Word of God and the family by leading genuine family ministries with her husband, Matt, and hosting the Raising Christian Kids Conference. Andrea has been on Point of View before and on the Know Why podcast, and I have been keeping an eye on a special project that she's been working on for a while, and it's here and it's available, and it is going to be an awesome resource for families.

[00:11:43] So I'm so excited to talk to her about Worldview Prepared, which is a biblical curriculum designed to equip your students to respond to the most influential ideas shaping their generation. Andrea, thanks for joining Point of View again. Thank you for having me. It's good to be here with you, Liberty. Yeah, I'm so excited. So let's talk about Worldview Prepared. You sent me a PDF version, so I was looking through it before our interview, and then you've got the physical book here.

[00:12:12] Man, I can just tell by looking at it, there's a lot there. So first of all, before we go through the different sections and talk about some of the things that people can expect to find in the curriculum, tell us about how this idea came about and why it was on your heart. Yeah, it's been on my heart for quite a while, actually about four to five years, because I've just been seeing how students are so affected by worldview decisions and the consequences of different worldviews in culture today and just realizing how important it is for them to understand worldview.

[00:12:42] I feel like I didn't even know what worldview was until the last six or seven years, and so it's been an important learning for myself, but also just to realize how many ideas are bombarding our kids, and they don't know how to filter them. They all come to them at, like, truth. And so being able to give them a framework for how they can filter, spot ideas, filter them, categorize them, and then discern what's biblical or not has been a passion project. And so that's what this curriculum is really aiming to do. I love that. And I know just from other research that I've read or interviews we've done,

[00:13:12] for instance, Dr. George Barna does a lot of research on worldview, and I think it was just I had him on the podcast, the Know Why podcast, a couple of years ago, and he was saying that 1% of teens today have a biblical worldview. And even when you look in the church and Christian families, so many people who are raised in the church, they leave home or they go through their adulthood still not having a biblical worldview, meaning they might say that they're a Christian,

[00:13:39] but when you ask certain questions about how do you apply God's word to these different cultural questions, they don't know how to answer. They don't answer in a way that aligns with biblical truth. And so, I don't know, was that part of your motivation too to just equip families to say, hey, be intentional in creating this worldview in your family? Yeah, absolutely. Because what we're seeing and what really I think God prompted my heart for and my husband's heart for is so many progressive ideas coming into the church,

[00:14:07] so many anti-biblical ideas coming into the church, and people are not. They don't have a biblical worldview. They don't know how to defend the ideas. So many things sound Christian-y, like justice and compassion and love and goodness and kindness. And so, they don't know how to tell the difference. And I think George Barna says that kids' worldview is decided by the time they're 13. They have already formed their worldview. So, those early years are very formative to what they'll end up believing about what is good,

[00:14:36] what is moral, what is right. Does God exist? Does He not? Like all of those questions, they are forming their worldview prior to that. So, it's really important. And when you look at those stats, the kind of the sad stats of who has a biblical worldview, the questions they ask if they're doing a survey on a biblical worldview, these are not hard questions. You know, it's questions like, do you believe the Bible is true and inspired by God? Do you believe that Jesus is, you know, came to be our Savior? Do you believe that people are naturally sinful?

[00:15:06] Just some of these kind of very basic Christian questions. And so, when you hear that these stats are low, it is alarming, I think, because the questions aren't that hard. It is very basic Christian understanding that forms the biblical worldview. Yeah, absolutely. So, give us an idea of who this is for. I mean, honestly, I think it'd be great for anybody to go through after looking at it. But what's the ideal age or family situation where you think this curriculum is going to be helpful?

[00:15:36] So, Worldview Prepared is really a teen resource. So, I'd say 13 and up. And it is for kids who are homeschooled, who can maybe homeschool co-ops. So, it can also be done in a group setting, private schools. I would love to see kids in public schools do it even as like an after school or in the summer. That's my oldest son. He's in public school. And so, he did it this summer and went through it. My youngest were going through it this year as part of his homeschool program.

[00:16:07] So, I think there's a lot of opportunities for how parents can use it. It is designed as a self-study so that there's not a lot of preparation needed. They can just kind of open the book and go. And then we also have versions that are available for kids 10 to 13 as well to learn some of the subjects like worldview and theology. So, there's options for more than just the teenagers. Okay. Awesome.

[00:16:28] So, really, this is no matter what school your kids are in, if you are wanting to make sure that they have a good worldview foundation, then this is the resource for them. Absolutely. Yeah. And the lessons are only like two pages. So, it's very short and sweet and easy and just keeps building on each other on each page after each lesson. Wonderful. Okay. So, let's go through what you actually cover. You have it divided up into four quarters. And so, you talk about worldview, God's design, culture, and theology.

[00:16:56] So, I'd love to hear how did you decide on that breakdown for those overarching topics that are discussed in each section of the curriculum. So, that's actually interesting because in the beginning when I first started writing it, I was almost doing it like a problem solution. Like, here's the problem we're seeing in culture. We're seeing these ideas, LGBTQ ideology, critical race theory, progressive Christianity, whatever the topic was. And then I was writing it almost like, well, here's the biblical response. And as I was writing it, it wasn't working. It wasn't fluid.

[00:17:26] It just didn't flow right. And as I was in prayer and other people were praying for the curriculum as well, God really showed me what I needed to be doing was actually building the case for God's plan first. We need to show what God says, his design, and all of those different pieces. And then talk about the ideas that are out there and then compare those ideas to the biblical perspective. So, that is how it was designed. That's how it came to be. So, now it's much more of a foundational education of God's design.

[00:17:57] And then how do you respond to the cultural ideas based on how God created things to be? I think that is so great. I think that's so relevant because so often Christians, I think we find ourselves in a reactionary position. And even when you're talking about something as simple as marriage or sexuality according to the Bible, we often, you know, maybe don't bring it up to our kids. We don't think about it until you see that standard from the Bible being violated.

[00:18:26] And then you're backtracking. But in reality, and then you, and then it does seem, and I can seem to maybe a teenager or something, well, why are you saying that, you know, what my friend said is wrong or bad? Now it just seems judgy. Now it seems harsh. Instead of introducing it as this is the beautiful way that God created us and designed us to flourish. So, I think that's so important to start there with that foundation. Absolutely. And I think that kids, a lot of times they believe what they hear first.

[00:18:53] And so, if we can give them a standard of what God said first before they're hearing, you know, about their neighbors who are in a lesbian marriage or whatever that is, then it helps them to be able to discern what is right and wrong from the get-go. Yeah, absolutely. So, we're going to keep talking about this. We have a break in a few minutes. But you mentioned this when we started talking, that you didn't even know what a worldview was until more recently in your adulthood. And I think a lot of people may be in the same situation where we throw that word around.

[00:19:23] I know we talk about it on point of view, but you do define it in the curriculum. So, tell us what is a worldview? So, worldview is how you see the world. It's the lens through which you see it. I think just if you put on a pair of glasses and all of a sudden you see a clearer, the worldview is the lens through which you see everything. So, how do you see money? How do you see death? How do you see all these different things? How do you see conflict? So, a worldview is going to inform how you see all of these different ideas.

[00:19:53] And so, for example, one of the biggest ways you can tell the difference between, like, a biblical worldview and the postmodern worldview. So, the postmodern worldview is the worldview of LGBTQ ideology, critical race theory, all those things. But the biggest way you can tell the difference is the lens or the view of evil. So, what is evil? So, for example, when I was teaching some students at a church, I would ask them, what does God define as evil?

[00:20:22] And they would say things like lying, greed, pride, sexual immorality, murder, right? These are all things that come from a biblical worldview of evil. But if you ask somebody with a postmodern worldview, what is evil? They're going to say oppression and injustice. And so, it's a very different view of even topics like evil or goodness or morality, things like that. Yeah. So fascinating. Well, we're going to a break. I want to dig into worldview a little bit more when we get back. And specifically, four major worldviews.

[00:20:50] So, this is something that Andrea wrote about in her book, Christ Over Culture, which we talked about last time she was on Point of View. But she really dives in deeply in the curriculum to help students understand these different worldview categories. So, when they encounter somebody who might believe differently than them, they can understand where they're coming from and understand those beliefs. So, you may already be interested in getting yourself a copy. You can go to GenuineFamilyMinistries.com or also find worldview prepared on Amazon.

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[00:23:00] You are listening to Point of View. The opinions expressed on Point of View do not necessarily reflect the views of the management or staff of this station. And now here again is Kerby Anderson. Okay, we're back with Andrea Crum talking about her new curriculum that is out and available for you to get worldview prepared.

[00:23:23] So this is for your teen who you want to equip with a biblical worldview and a biblical foundation of God's design. So we just talked about what a worldview is. It's how you see the world. But then, Andrea, you go through in the curriculum and you talk about the four major worldviews. And I know you also wrote about this in Christ Over Culture. And I thought it was such a great way to understand the different belief systems that we see today. So can you take us through those? Absolutely.

[00:23:51] So the four major worldviews are going to be the science worldview, which would be the naturalism worldview. That's just basically that everything you see is based on nature. And it's only what you can see and touch and feel. There is no supernatural element in the world. So that's the naturalism or the scientific worldview. Then you've got the transcendental worldview. I also call that the spirituality worldview. It's easier to say.

[00:24:20] And this is going to be your worldview, your Hinduism, your Buddhism. So the idea that pretty much the supernatural is the most important thing, not the natural world. And so that's another worldview, a new age, Wicca, all of those different religions come out of that. Then you've got the theism worldview, which we call the submitted worldview. We try to have everything with an S label. So that makes it easier for the kids to understand. This is a submitted worldview because it's really about religions that fall under a belief system that there is a God and that he does.

[00:24:49] He is sovereign over creation. He's also accessible to his creation. So religions like Christianity and Judaism and Islam all fall under the theistic worldview or the submitted worldview. And then the last worldview we talk about is the postmodern worldview, which is the what we also call the social justice worldview. And that is the worldview of radical feminism and LGBTQ ideology and all of those different things.

[00:25:14] So being able to help kids understand what those different worldviews are, their background, the belief systems, even some of the players or the religions that were heavily influenced. Those particular worldviews all helps them to be able to categorize them and also understand why they're different than the biblical worldview. And so one of the things that you said earlier was that depending on your worldview, it really does give you a framework for understanding the world.

[00:25:40] And so everybody will look at what's happening and then they'll try to make sense of it according to their worldview. And so you mentioned the example of whenever you define evil in a postmodern worldview, which you call the social justice worldview, then you might say, well, evil is oppression and injustice, which those are bad things. But it's for it's in the biblical worldview.

[00:26:02] We understand because it's the same root of sin and mistreating other people, which is a sin rather than kind of these class differences or inequality being the original sin. So I would love for you to dive into that more. And you also talk about five major postmodern worldview movements.

[00:26:19] And this is so relevant today because I think everything from the kind of socialism wave that we're seeing again, where so many young people are voting for like these very extreme democratic socialists of America or many of the cultural movements, they kind of all have the same root. So I would love for you to talk about those. Absolutely. So when we talk about the worldview and worldview in that in that first quarter of the curriculum, we're really laying out, first of all, the biblical worldview. So we want that to be very clear.

[00:26:49] So we talk about four parts of the biblical worldview, which is creation, fall, redemption and restoration. And that allows it to be kind of a filter of how they can compare and contrast to the other worldviews. And you're mentioning like the social justice worldview. They're talking about oppression and injustice and all these things that, yeah, Christians are also we don't like any of those things either. But what you start to find as you peel back the onion, so to speak, on those particular worldviews is how are they defining those words? Is it real? Is it perceived?

[00:27:17] Is it based on a certain ideology and belief system that then makes certain things an injustice or not? And so we really are trying to help students understand the differences in that way so that some of these shades that seem like subtle differences, they can really start to pinpoint and understand what is biblical and what is not. Because God has a way to deal with injustice. There is a biblical way of doing justice. So what does that look like versus kind of the man-made way of the social justice worldview?

[00:27:45] And then the five that you talk about, yeah, we go through radical feminism. We go through in the four waves of feminism and really talk about what those things are. That is like that first big issue that really starts to untangle a lot of or lead to a lot of other of the worldview or some of these ideologies that we have out there. We talk about the new sexual immorality. So just the idea of there's a new way that people are looking at sex and what that's all about.

[00:28:15] And they're not looking at it from a biblical perspective. They're looking at it from a personal perspective and experimentation, satisfaction, all those kind of things. So we talk about that. We talk about, of course, gender and sexual ideology. We talk about critical race theory. And then the fifth one, we talk about a progressive Christianity, which is basically all these cultural ideas that now come into the church and start to get justified or people start changing scripture in order to justify them, that sort of thing.

[00:28:42] You said something a minute ago that I wanted to ask you about, and that was kind of four ways or four questions that you asked to understand the biblical worldview. And then you say, really, every different worldview is trying to answer those same questions. And I think this is so helpful to make sense of why people of different beliefs advocate for certain movements or certain things. And so help us understand what those questions are again.

[00:29:09] And then maybe an example of how one of these other worldviews might try to answer those questions. Absolutely. So Chuck Colson and Nancy Piercy wrote a book, How Now Shall We Live? And in that, he talks about these four worldview questions. So I went to the Colson Center for Christian Worldview. So that's a lot of where I got my specific training from. And he outlines these four questions, which is that every worldview is really trying to answer some very similar questions about reality and about who we are and why we exist.

[00:29:37] So the first question is, who created us and why are we here? So this is a question of the origin of the world. It's the origin of humanity. What's our purpose? Why do we live here? The second question is, like, why is there evil in the world? Why are things not great? Why is there not a utopia? Why are we in the state that we are? Because we can see people do evil things. We can see that there's suffering in the world. So why is that? The third question is, what can we do to fix it?

[00:30:06] What can we do to fix this world that is broken? And then the fourth question is, okay, now that we know those things, how do we live our lives accordingly? So those are, what does it mean to me personally? Now that I've answered some of these bigger worldview questions. So you can go through each of those worldviews and start to answer some of those questions. And you start to figure out where these worldviews, what they truly believe. So if you were to say, take somebody from kind of this postmodern or what you call the social justice worldview.

[00:30:34] And so let's imagine maybe a young college student and socialism sounds really nice. It's making a lot of sense. They are untethered from a biblical worldview. And so if they're receiving some of this messaging that is trying to pull them a certain direction, then how might they be answering those questions? Maybe they're not even explicitly, like, they don't even realize they're answering those questions. But how is something like that postmodern ideology fitting into those different categories of questions? Yeah.

[00:31:04] So for that particular worldview, if you were to ask somebody in a social justice worldview, you know, why are we here? What's our purpose? Who created us? They'd be less worried about who created us. They're not as worried about that particular issue. But why we're here, they would definitely say it's to make sure that we have a more just society, that we are a society that works for every person every single time.

[00:31:26] Talking about evil, it would be that there's injustice and there's oppression specifically to what they would consider marginalized people or people who are minority populations, especially in America. How do you fix it? They would say you do a number of things to fix that. You might have DEI programs in your in your schools and in your businesses and even in your churches.

[00:31:49] You might be doing some things to make sure that we have not just equality, having equal opportunities for everybody, but we also need to have equal outcomes from everybody for everybody. So that means that there needs to be a proportionate number of people from this minority as there is from the white population, for example, attending a school or getting into management positions in a business. So they're looking at these ways to like, how do you make a system more just further than that?

[00:32:18] If you're looking at some of the programs like our some of the movements like Black Lives Matter, they're going even beyond that. And they're saying, well, we want to make a more just society. We need to abolish prison systems. Right. We need to get rid of our justice system. Like so, so many different things they're looking to do and deconstruct in order to fix, quote unquote, fix this oppression and justice they say exists in the world. And there is injustice and oppression in the world.

[00:32:46] So as Christians, we don't want to like say that that never happens, but we want to look at how are we defining it? And then how do we look at it from a biblical perspective? And then the way that they would say you live to answer the fourth question. So what do we do now that we know that these are the problems? This is the evil. This is how we fix it. They would say you go out and activate. You go out and you protest. You go out and you change legislation. So Ibram X.

[00:33:11] Kendi, who wrote How to Be an Antiracist, he has a book for how to make an anti how to raise an antiracist baby, how to raise an antiracist teen. So he's in that really, I would say, is more like how to be an activist, how they then they go out and they start to share these ideas with others and they start to make changes in education systems and the government. And all of those different things that they would that they feel like they is necessary in order to get their end result. So fascinating.

[00:33:39] And it kind of explains the religious zeal behind a lot of the activism that we see today. OK, we'll keep talking about worldview when we get back on point of view. You're listening to point of view, your listener supported source for truth. Time flies when you're having fun. But we do have Andrea Crum in studio for a few more minutes.

[00:34:09] And so I'm going to continue to ask her questions about her curriculum, Worldview Prepared, which is a biblical curriculum for families geared toward teenagers to help build a biblical worldview. And so we have talked a lot about worldview and understanding that and understanding the prevalent worldviews today. But that's only kind of scratching the surface of one of the sections in your curriculum. And so you have a whole section on God's design as well.

[00:34:35] And I really appreciated how you really give a lot of time to what I think is super foundational in that. And that is understanding the image of God, which kind of that really does set the foundation for everything about God's design and regard to our lives. So I'd love to hear you talk about the image of God, understanding that other things we need to understand about God's design. Absolutely. So the God's design quarter, it's the second quarter.

[00:35:00] So after you kind of figure out how to like categorize ideas, now we go into let's talk about how God wanted the world to work and flourish, because that's one of the things I think is beautiful about God's design. He is actually created a way for us to flourish as a society, as a humanity. And so what we talk about there is the seven principles of God's design. The first is that God is the creator. He's the one who made it all. The second is that we're made in his image.

[00:35:26] The third principle is that he made it the binary of male and female, the two categories of male and female. The fourth is that he made the family, which includes marriage, sex and kids. The fifth is that he created the nations. And the sixth is that he designed work. He designed us to work. And he also designed the church. And then the seventh is that he created us to go out and represent him.

[00:35:53] And so when we talk about the image of God, there are three categories that I think a lot of scholars really say it means to be made in the image of God. And the first is that we are made. We have value. We have worth because we're made in his image. I think that's one of the primary things of the pro-life movement is that we are made in his image. And so we're valuable. And he even says in Genesis 9, you know, if you kill somebody, then you're going to be killed because now you're married. You've killed somebody in my image.

[00:36:23] And so the idea being that we are so valuable that we shouldn't murder one another because we're made in his image, not just because we want to be kind or nice. It's really because of the value of who we are based on his image. The second is that we also get some of his qualities. We get some of his qualities being made in his image. We get maybe artistry, maybe analytical thinking, maybe compassion. All of these different things are from God, and he has bestowed that on his creation.

[00:36:54] And then the third thing that a lot of scholars will talk about, too, is that we are made to reflect him. As an image bearer, we are made to image him to the rest of society. And that's where that seventh principle of God's design comes in. It's like, OK, so we're made in his image. Now what do we do? How do we respond in culture? What is our life supposed to look like as a result of that? Yeah, I think that's so important because when you do encounter different lifestyles that are not operating in accordance with God's design in the world,

[00:37:24] as anybody in the world will, I mean, any kid is going to encounter that at some point. If you just point to a Bible verse, which I mean, you should always point to a Bible verse. But if you just do that and say, well, here, God says this is wrong, then it's kind of you're approaching it in a negative way, I guess, instead of saying, no, like this is this is really good. Like this is how human beings flourish. And so I love that that's articulated and then kind of digging into identity a little bit more.

[00:37:54] You talk how there are three different aspects of identity. And I think this, again, is so relevant for kids because so many of the questions that we see represented in our culture and the issues, they really boil down to people, I think, trying to understand themselves. Yeah. And I think so many times we'll say to children, especially Christian children, you're a child of God. Right. Right. And it's kind of like, OK, what does that mean or what is made in his image mean? Like, what does that really mean to me personally and how should I process that? And so, yeah.

[00:38:23] So one of the things we teach is that there's three aspects of our identity that that really scripture reveals of how he created us. One is the creation identity is one way we put it, which is basically made him made in his image. And it goes over the things I just mentioned. The second is if you're a Christian, then it's you also have salvation identity. You are now a child of God. So what does that mean? It means you're forgiven. It means you're made new. It means you're a precious daughter or son of our most holy God.

[00:38:52] It means you're now a brother and sister in Christ with other people as a believer. It also means you have a purpose and that he has given you a purpose and a way in which you are to live. And so and he gives you spiritual gifts. So there's so many things that's related to that in terms of our salvation identity. And then the third aspect is our personal identity, if you will. Just we have our own fingerprint. Right. We have our own DNA. We are uniquely made. And God says that we're uniquely made.

[00:39:18] And so that's about who we are and his place that he has us, the territory that he has us, the passions he's given us, the purpose he's given us. That's about what he wants us to do for his creation and for his kingdom, really. Yeah. Yeah. So good. So many people need to understand that. And if we can give kids that foundation, you know, before they ever leave the home, then how much better?

[00:39:42] So let's talk about your theology section, because, I mean, there's so much theology woven through the curriculum, but you have a whole section devoted to understanding that. So tell us why that was important for you to include. Yeah. So, so much of what we're seeing, and I think the reason God called us to this ministry, me and my husband, is because of all these ideas coming to the church and just seeing so many people being persuaded by the ideas of culture.

[00:40:06] And what really started seeing was that there is just a lack of biblical understanding and a lack of biblical literacy. I feel like myself, you know, I feel like I didn't really understand blood atonement until I was much older. I didn't really understand some of the things of scripture and some of the beliefs, reconciliation, all these big words. Right. And so it's really important that our kids understand the, I guess, meta narrative or the overarching narrative of scripture.

[00:40:33] A lot of times they know the gospel, but they don't know all the other parts of it that kind of make it all come together. And so being able to, in our theology section, really tie the Old Testament to the New Testament and show that you cannot separate these two things, because that's one of the ideas you'll see in progressive Christianity is that, hey, the Old Testament's not that, not important. That's the old, vengeful, wrathful God. Now you need to just follow this new, sweet Jesus. And so they really separate that.

[00:41:02] And in doing so, they take away the need for blood atonement. They take away the need for God's justice to see that we are made righteous before him, which is the whole reason Jesus came to begin with. So when you take away that, you start to really take away the impact, the power, the importance of Jesus and his sacrifice on the cross. And you just really water down the gospel and make it make it make Jesus unnecessary.

[00:41:27] And then what they start to do is they make him more like this martyr of like social justice, you know, speaking truth to power, you know, just being for the oppressed instead of no. He came to reconcile us to him as sinners and forgive us of our sins. So now we can be in relationship with him. So it's important for our kids to understand theology because they're going to start to hear these ideas and they need to be able to go. No, that is important. Here's why that's important. And here's where the connections are. Yeah, so good. So much wonderful information in here.

[00:41:56] Again, you can get a copy at GenuineFamilyMinistries.com. Find Worldview Prepared on Amazon or go to Pointofview.net and click on the link. But Andrea, it's been great talking with you. Before we go off air here in a minute, just one more time, your prayer for people who use this curriculum. My prayer is that they will be prepared and protected from these ideas.

[00:42:19] Being in this ministry, we have seen the results of the consequences of these ideas, and we've seen them really hurt and impact families. We've seen people lose the faith. We've seen kids estranged from their families. We've seen just a lot of division. And so our prayer is that kids would be protected from these ideas, but also prepared to have fruitful conversations and not be swayed by the ideas out there. Yeah, so good. What a great resource.

[00:42:47] And thank you again for being on Point of View today to tell us all about it. Thank you for having me. I appreciate you. So again, we've been discussing Worldview Prepared, a biblical worldview curriculum for your family. Go to Pointofview.net. Click on those links under Andrea's name so that you can get a copy. When we come back, we'll talk about how we can overcome during troubled times with Charles Kisheimer. I'm really looking forward to that interview as well. So don't go anywhere. We'll be right back on Point of View.

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