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[00:00:46] now being used to perpetrate a hate crime hoax. And as one person said, maybe

[00:00:51] we've crossed the Rubicon even more so. You can't trust what you see.

[00:00:55] Penedextre has a piece on Deep State lock-in and as we talked about just the

[00:00:59] other day with Don Fetter, the fertility rate hits record low. So I

[00:01:03] think we have more than two hours worth to cover but we will do our

[00:01:07] best. Penedextre in studio and of course Kelly Shackelford. Well you

[00:01:11] know we get the show down and we kind of figure out the schedule and

[00:01:14] then all these things start happening and one of those of course is some

[00:01:20] developments in First Liberty cases which we'll be talking about in a few

[00:01:24] minutes. Well Kelly here we go. We thought we were going to start out with

[00:01:28] the Lifewise Academy, that's our second one, but what we just posted and this

[00:01:32] just came up a couple minutes ago press release, Brian Ohio resumes

[00:01:36] harassment of Dad's Place Church and I thought this thing was over. What's

[00:01:41] going on? That's a great question. You know it's I mean you just can't help but

[00:01:47] be really frustrated if not angry. I mean what is wrong with these people?

[00:01:52] This is a ministry that was trying, I mean it all started during the

[00:01:58] winter when it was very cold when the homeless shelter was full and there

[00:02:04] were people out in the street freezing and so a church that's right

[00:02:07] there refused to lock their doors to people who were freezing and again it

[00:02:13] says a lot about the city I think to know how this started. They went in on

[00:02:21] a Sunday morning and served them with the pastor with 16 criminal charges. I

[00:02:30] mean who does that right? The pastor had reached out to him in numerous

[00:02:33] times saying hey if there's anything I can do you know I'm going to meet

[00:02:36] with the they refused to meet with him. When we got involved representing him

[00:02:41] they refused to meet with us, they won't talk about anything, they won't try to

[00:02:46] work on it see if we can work it out and so we had to go to federal court

[00:02:50] to finally get them to stop and the agreement made and this there's a

[00:02:56] court order says that there will be no more action taken because you

[00:03:02] guys worked this out. Well they just said well evidently we don't need to

[00:03:08] follow court orders or federal judges we're gonna go in at 5 a.m. in the

[00:03:14] morning and raid the church. Now think about this, this is like communist

[00:03:19] China or something and then we're gonna do a bunch of investigation

[00:03:22] we're gonna say that they meet they don't meet the you know the fire

[00:03:26] and safety codes. Well they had been working with those people and saying

[00:03:31] we'll fix anything you need us to fix they fixed everything so they just

[00:03:34] decided they would just raid violate the what the court said and go in and

[00:03:39] now created a bunch of new criminal charges and so you're like what is

[00:03:43] wrong with you people? I mean how hard would it have been if they really had

[00:03:47] an issue I think it shows they really don't have an issue they've got

[00:03:50] another issue it has nothing to do with the church or with health and

[00:03:55] safety codes. If there was one all they'd have to do is call and say

[00:03:58] hey I think there's something you need to fix and they'd have fixed it.

[00:04:03] Instead it's like you're in some communist country if you live in

[00:04:07] Bryan Ohio and so we'll be in court Monday the judge is called an

[00:04:13] immediate hearing and I mean I can't imagine what the judge is going to do.

[00:04:21] I can get an idea. I mean that basically just spit in the face of

[00:04:25] the judge. Yes. And so I you know while I agree with Grace as a Christian in

[00:04:33] this case I don't think Grace is warranted. I mean I think they obviously

[00:04:37] need they need a wake-up call because what they're doing is horrible. So I

[00:04:44] just want to go to the motivation for a minute because you said you

[00:04:49] know the reasons that they gave like coming in at 530 in the morning on a

[00:04:53] fire code violation when Chris Avell the pastor is willing to fix anything and

[00:04:58] has accommodated all really addressed all the city's concerns up to now.

[00:05:05] They don't want the church open 24 hours. Homeless people people in need

[00:05:11] go in and that's that's who they're serving. It's the church being the

[00:05:15] church. So what is the and it's also alleviating a problem that the city

[00:05:21] would be facing if the church weren't weren't doing it. So why why why are

[00:05:27] they so upset. Well we've seen this a lot through the years with cities that

[00:05:33] do things against homeless ministries churches that are serving people in

[00:05:37] need because they think if you do this if you allow this type of

[00:05:42] service then you will attract more of those type of people to the city.

[00:05:48] So so it's like well you know you're going to it's going to lead to crime

[00:05:52] and all this kind of stuff if you meet these people's needs. And so so

[00:05:58] they've just determined that the church is a bad thing. And so they're

[00:06:02] going after the church in whatever way they can. And again remember how

[00:06:07] this all started in the first place. It was a church that refused to lock

[00:06:11] its doors to people who were freezing on the streets. And so so you know

[00:06:17] that this is as Pastor O'Vell said Jesus doesn't lock the doors of the

[00:06:22] church but in their world they would. Well you know we have a First

[00:06:29] Amendment. We have religious freedom. I mean I can't think of you know the

[00:06:34] right to assembly the right to association the right of free exercise

[00:06:40] the religion you know the right of free speech. I mean how many of the

[00:06:45] most fundamental constitutional rights can you violate. But when you're

[00:06:50] arrogant and you think you have all the power which this city and this

[00:06:55] fire marshal and this I mean they're all it's all a cabal. This

[00:06:58] is why they won't even sit down and talk and they refuse to do that in

[00:07:03] the beginning. Their agenda is not to work anything out. It's to get

[00:07:07] rid of the church. And you know I hope the judge you know doesn't appreciate

[00:07:14] what they just did. It's wrong on a lot of levels but it's also wrong

[00:07:17] because you you had an order from a court a federal judge and you just

[00:07:22] decided you didn't need to follow it that we go in at 5 a.m.

[00:07:26] and some sort of you know raid like like you're in some communist

[00:07:30] country or something. Let me just mention that we have the press

[00:07:33] release here. It's the first article you can click through and find the

[00:07:36] actual order from the northern district of Ohio Toledo division. So

[00:07:42] you can find out about that. I would encourage you to pray for Pastor

[00:07:46] Chris Savelle. Please. And certainly if you are not already receiving

[00:07:49] some of the newsletters that come from First Liberty there's a first

[00:07:52] liberty insider and as you go to the press release you might also

[00:07:56] look to the right. There's a section here in which they're

[00:07:57] praising the speaker of the House Mike Johnson for denouncing

[00:08:01] anti-semitism on campus which we'll get to in just a minute. But

[00:08:05] when we come back from the break the article we thought we were going to

[00:08:08] talk about is the second article and that is more good news. Yes. And

[00:08:13] we take that one and that is LifeWise Academy bringing the Bible

[00:08:18] to students. You know we've talked about the importance of teaching

[00:08:21] the Bible in Christian schools but also there is release time so you

[00:08:25] could teach that in the public schools and this is a great

[00:08:28] organization that has I know this will surprise you been attacked by

[00:08:32] the Freedom from Religion Foundation and a number of others

[00:08:36] but again they've been supported by First Liberty. So we'll come back

[00:08:39] with then a Dexter and Kelly Shackelford right after this.

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[00:11:04] Weekend edition in studio with us today

[00:11:06] Benedictor Kelly Shackelford. Second article is about

[00:11:10] the LifeWise Academy. What a great organization and as

[00:11:14] you might have already gathered from what I said a

[00:11:16] moment ago under some kind of controversy. Yes the

[00:11:20] LifeWise Academy brings religious education to public

[00:11:23] school students but it's sent off campus so it's

[00:11:26] perfectly fine except not with the Freedom From Religion

[00:11:29] Foundation. They are attacking this and you know

[00:11:34] that's really it's just par for the course I guess

[00:11:37] when you see these kinds of sort of atheist

[00:11:42] organizations they they just can't stand it when

[00:11:45] somebody's learning about Jesus. It's a great story.

[00:11:50] Yeah you know we don't hear a lot of good news and

[00:11:53] there's a lot of good news and if people want to

[00:11:55] know what we're saying it's LifeWise Academy so you

[00:11:59] can look it up online and we have a link to your

[00:12:01] website. Yeah good. And Joel Pinton is the guy who

[00:12:05] started it and one of the things I like is Joel

[00:12:09] Pinton is not exactly the kind of guy that you

[00:12:11] would want to try to intimidate. Joel Pinton is

[00:12:13] a large guy. He was the defensive tackle for the

[00:12:18] national champion Ohio State Buccaneers big guy

[00:12:24] but and you can see the picture in the video

[00:12:26] there wanted to be wanted to do something with his

[00:12:29] fame different from everybody else he wanted to

[00:12:32] do something for the Lord. And so they found out

[00:12:37] something that I of course knew but most people

[00:12:40] don't know and that is back in the 1950s

[00:12:42] there's a Supreme Court case that said and this is

[00:12:46] even when the law was very hostile to religious

[00:12:48] freedom before we won the Coach Kennedy case and

[00:12:50] all that. See been easier now but they said you

[00:12:53] can have what's called release time

[00:12:55] instruction during the school day if parents

[00:12:58] approve and their their kids can be taken like

[00:13:03] off campus to a place and get Bible

[00:13:06] instruction. And it's been legal it's been

[00:13:10] legal for you know 70 years and but very few

[00:13:14] people were doing it. Why. Well because nobody

[00:13:18] had done what he calls kind of a plug and play.

[00:13:20] In other words how do you do this. We've got

[00:13:23] to have a bus and there are all these things

[00:13:26] you kind of need to put in motion and nobody

[00:13:29] had ever sort of lined it all out where

[00:13:30] people in each community could could have

[00:13:33] this. And he did. And boy it's exploding. I

[00:13:38] mean I mean so many parents would love this

[00:13:41] for their kids as part of the school day. And

[00:13:44] so I mean and it's not it's across the board

[00:13:48] different types like is it in my school district.

[00:13:52] Sure but it's also in the most inner city

[00:13:55] schools. And I remember talking to him about

[00:13:59] I don't know if his L.A. or one of these

[00:14:00] big cities. The particular school area in that

[00:14:04] he was talking about was very poor. Ninety five

[00:14:08] percent of the parents said I want that for my

[00:14:11] kids. And these kids were of course being taken

[00:14:15] in this nice bus to this place to get Bible

[00:14:18] instruction and have these wonderful teachers.

[00:14:20] And they all got a Bible and they said it

[00:14:23] was like gold. They had never been given

[00:14:25] anything like that before. And they were they

[00:14:28] so treasured their Bible. And what's

[00:14:31] interesting is how do you get it in there

[00:14:33] because you know principals are going to be kind

[00:14:36] of scared and they're going to be. Well number

[00:14:38] one you show them the letter from First

[00:14:40] Liberty that says hey this has been the law

[00:14:42] for 70 years. This is a non this is not a

[00:14:45] question. OK you can do this. But secondly

[00:14:49] again brilliant. They they started tracking

[00:14:53] they had the schools track what happens

[00:14:56] when you put this in. Well because you know

[00:14:59] I mean obviously there's going to be

[00:15:01] principals and schools and school districts

[00:15:04] that think well you know I think religious

[00:15:06] freedom is great. Let's provide this for the

[00:15:08] kids. But most of them you know maybe that's

[00:15:11] not going to be their motivation. So what is

[00:15:12] the motivation for somebody running schools.

[00:15:15] How about the fact that your disruptions

[00:15:18] that your problems with students can that

[00:15:20] all these things start to dramatically go

[00:15:23] down. The number of reports I mean they've

[00:15:25] got all these reports. And sure enough

[00:15:28] everywhere you put this in the conduct

[00:15:30] begins to change and the kids start acting

[00:15:32] better. And there's less problems in the

[00:15:35] school. Every principal every you know

[00:15:39] school district leader wants that. And so

[00:15:42] it's starting to spread. I think it was I

[00:15:44] don't know how many they're up to now. I

[00:15:46] mean but their goal is to have this in

[00:15:49] every school. Is it nationwide. It is

[00:15:51] it's nationwide. And some states are even

[00:15:54] beginning to pass laws to make it easier

[00:15:57] like Indiana did so because you know in a

[00:16:00] lot of states are like I don't know if we

[00:16:02] can do this you know and until somebody

[00:16:05] starts doing it. But in Indiana they pass

[00:16:08] the law to make it you know almost

[00:16:10] automatic that is just really easy to do

[00:16:13] if you want to do it. And so I would

[00:16:16] highly encourage if it's not something in

[00:16:17] your school district you know to look up

[00:16:20] at life wise. And I think they're going

[00:16:22] to have the whole country pretty soon

[00:16:24] because parents want this for their kids.

[00:16:26] It's a good thing for the schools. It's

[00:16:29] free it's freedom right. Nobody's saying

[00:16:32] you have to go to some off campus deal

[00:16:34] to study the Bible. But for those who

[00:16:36] want to I mean what a great thing in

[00:16:38] the public schools where you're not

[00:16:40] getting that at any other time. So

[00:16:42] it's a great program. It's a great idea

[00:16:45] the communities are the ones who are

[00:16:46] really having to back it. I mean part

[00:16:48] of the deal is they have to have a

[00:16:49] certain number of people sign up online

[00:16:52] in that community to say I want this

[00:16:55] and I'm committed to this. And when they

[00:16:57] get a certain number of people who sort

[00:16:59] of you know sign the petition then

[00:17:01] they know they're ready to go and those

[00:17:03] people are doing this for their own

[00:17:04] communities. Let me just mention that

[00:17:06] if you would like to know more

[00:17:07] information about that we had Joel

[00:17:09] Penton on June 5th of last year on

[00:17:12] his book during school hours. So as

[00:17:15] Kelly said you could go to their

[00:17:17] website I would recommend that you

[00:17:18] get the book because the subtitle is

[00:17:20] The Why and How of Life Wise Academy

[00:17:23] and the idea of reinstalling religious

[00:17:26] education in public schools. And so that

[00:17:29] book or if you'd like to hear the

[00:17:31] interview we still have it online you

[00:17:33] can just type in Life Wise and you

[00:17:34] can see and listen to the entire

[00:17:36] interview at June 5th and he as you

[00:17:38] said is an OSU lineman pretty big

[00:17:41] guy and yet has been very

[00:17:43] successful in getting this all over

[00:17:45] the nation. So are these done during

[00:17:47] school? Are they an afterschool

[00:17:49] program? No during school hours.

[00:17:51] That's the great thing. Release time

[00:17:53] yeah it's release time so you know

[00:17:55] they have a maybe they have a time

[00:17:58] where people can go to study hall

[00:18:00] or they can go to you know they

[00:18:02] give them choices but one of the

[00:18:04] choices is they can go do this and

[00:18:06] here's what happens. You know 80

[00:18:08] percent 90 percent of the parents

[00:18:10] say that's what I want. And so so

[00:18:15] obviously you know what part of

[00:18:16] what like freedom from religion

[00:18:17] those groups don't like is is you

[00:18:20] know what when things are popular

[00:18:21] people want to go do it. So there's

[00:18:23] other kids that are like hey you

[00:18:26] know I'd like to go do that and

[00:18:28] they don't like that. Well you

[00:18:30] know welcome to a free country

[00:18:31] where people get to consider

[00:18:34] other things some good and some

[00:18:35] bad but boy would this I mean this

[00:18:38] moves us back more to who we were

[00:18:40] as a country. You want to talk

[00:18:42] about a change. Everybody says we

[00:18:43] got to change our young people.

[00:18:45] And we have to change our schools

[00:18:47] and to offer this I think would

[00:18:49] just be it would make a change.

[00:18:51] It is. It's a great thing. I mean

[00:18:53] and especially when you think of

[00:18:55] right now the kind of horrible

[00:18:57] stuff that's being pumped in to

[00:18:59] many of our public schools. I

[00:19:01] mean to be honest in some

[00:19:03] Christian schools some of these

[00:19:04] horrible ideologies that are

[00:19:07] coming in and things that

[00:19:08] violate scripture. So this is

[00:19:12] you know it's a great thing

[00:19:14] that very few people know about

[00:19:15] and they're just really I mean

[00:19:17] it's only been what three years

[00:19:18] or however many years they've

[00:19:19] been really moving with this.

[00:19:21] And I don't know how many

[00:19:22] people there are many schools.

[00:19:23] I think there may be up to

[00:19:24] three thousand schools. That

[00:19:27] sounds right. But it's I mean

[00:19:29] that's if you look at the

[00:19:30] growth rate I mean this is

[00:19:32] going to be millions pretty

[00:19:34] pretty soon. So again go to

[00:19:36] First Liberty and you can see

[00:19:37] the video which I think has

[00:19:39] been very well. Stuart

[00:19:40] Shepherd did an interview with

[00:19:41] him or you can go to ours as

[00:19:42] well. June 5th is when we

[00:19:45] did the interview and the

[00:19:46] book which I would highly

[00:19:47] recommend because as you say

[00:19:49] Kelly you give this to an

[00:19:51] administrator. OK we found that

[00:19:53] the grades go up disruption goes

[00:19:55] down. The kids are more

[00:19:57] obedient. What wouldn't you

[00:19:58] like about this. While we also

[00:20:02] take them off campus teach

[00:20:03] them some Bible principles and

[00:20:04] they come back and they're

[00:20:05] better kids. So it's amazing

[00:20:07] how your how your life

[00:20:09] changes when you're either

[00:20:11] reminded or you learn that

[00:20:13] there's somebody higher than

[00:20:15] you. That's so great created

[00:20:18] you that your response which

[00:20:20] is mainly how your conduct

[00:20:21] starts to improve. So this is

[00:20:24] not a huge mystery as to why

[00:20:27] but it's a great thing great

[00:20:29] opportunity and it's something

[00:20:31] that you know people are

[00:20:32] always wondering what can I

[00:20:32] do in my community what can I

[00:20:34] bring to my community that's

[00:20:35] good. I mean here's an easy

[00:20:37] one. Got a school near you.

[00:20:40] How would you like to affect

[00:20:41] a lot of kids lives. I mean

[00:20:43] for their whole life I mean

[00:20:44] just by getting them into

[00:20:46] the Bible at an early age.

[00:20:48] I mean what a what a neat

[00:20:49] thing you could do for your

[00:20:50] own community. Again I

[00:20:52] appreciate the first liberty

[00:20:54] element as well because that

[00:20:55] just sets aside this idea

[00:20:56] that it's not unconstitutional

[00:20:59] which we know better. But

[00:21:01] let's get back to the big

[00:21:03] issue and that is the

[00:21:04] protest on campus. I've

[00:21:06] posted a piece here by Noah

[00:21:08] Rothman on Tom Cotton was

[00:21:09] right. And of course that's

[00:21:11] just a way to get into the

[00:21:13] conversation we've kind of

[00:21:14] had all week but we've

[00:21:16] learned a little bit more

[00:21:17] about some of the individuals

[00:21:19] that are involved with this.

[00:21:20] We've learned a little bit

[00:21:21] more about some of the

[00:21:21] professors that have been

[00:21:23] fomenting this. So we'll

[00:21:25] come back and talk about

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[00:23:11] and now here again is

[00:23:13] Kirby Anderson

[00:23:14] Benedicta Kelly

[00:23:15] Shackleford in studio

[00:23:16] by the way if you'd

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[00:23:17] 351-1212 everywhere ago

[00:23:20] and I was on a zoom

[00:23:21] last night people were

[00:23:22] talking about what was

[00:23:23] happening on the

[00:23:24] campuses that affect

[00:23:25] some of the people on

[00:23:26] the zoom had been with

[00:23:27] us in Israel and when I

[00:23:28] back in September

[00:23:29] talked about anti

[00:23:30] Semitism some of them

[00:23:32] said you know I didn't

[00:23:33] even think that was an

[00:23:34] issue and of course

[00:23:35] since then we've

[00:23:36] created a new edition

[00:23:37] of that because it's

[00:23:38] gotten so bad. It's

[00:23:40] just unbelievable how

[00:23:41] much worse it has been

[00:23:42] and so the article I

[00:23:43] have just to get you

[00:23:44] started on this is

[00:23:45] where they say Senator

[00:23:46] Tom Cotton is right

[00:23:48] again. We'll get into

[00:23:49] that in just a minute

[00:23:49] but the thing that

[00:23:50] started the controversy

[00:23:52] is he says what's going

[00:23:53] on the campus right now

[00:23:54] is a nascent pogrom.

[00:23:57] Okay when a guy goes

[00:23:58] to Harvard Law School

[00:23:58] you have to define some

[00:23:59] terms nascent mean is

[00:24:00] developing in a pogrom

[00:24:02] basically is a Russian

[00:24:04] word about an organized

[00:24:06] effort to displace

[00:24:08] Jewish populations

[00:24:10] eventually even to kill

[00:24:11] them and of course

[00:24:12] people have been

[00:24:12] reacting to that but

[00:24:14] Penn Dexter when we

[00:24:15] sit here and hear

[00:24:16] people say praising

[00:24:18] Hamas when individuals

[00:24:20] are actually saying from

[00:24:22] the river to the sea

[00:24:24] when they're actually

[00:24:26] talking about all of

[00:24:27] the various actions

[00:24:29] there are some that

[00:24:30] have been talking about

[00:24:31] the fact that we need

[00:24:32] to finish the

[00:24:33] Intifada and go back

[00:24:35] to Poland.

[00:24:36] I think what Senator

[00:24:38] Tom Cotton said is

[00:24:39] pretty accurate indeed.

[00:24:40] Well I think the

[00:24:41] word pogrom and he

[00:24:43] said a nascent pogrom

[00:24:45] which actually kind of

[00:24:46] softened it a little

[00:24:47] bit because it's just

[00:24:49] burgeoning but you

[00:24:50] know every day we hear

[00:24:51] of another school or

[00:24:52] a couple of more schools

[00:24:54] that I think you

[00:24:57] could really say it is

[00:24:58] a pogrom because students

[00:25:01] it's not the ones

[00:25:02] that are protesting

[00:25:03] that are being that

[00:25:06] are having to suffer

[00:25:06] here. It's the Jews

[00:25:08] who either can't go

[00:25:09] to school they're being

[00:25:11] told to have a hybrid

[00:25:12] education for the

[00:25:13] rest of the year which

[00:25:14] means virtual education

[00:25:17] for the rest of the

[00:25:18] year. It's not safe

[00:25:19] for you to be on

[00:25:19] campus. Don't go

[00:25:21] into these buildings

[00:25:22] at one school.

[00:25:23] I forget which one it

[00:25:24] is stuck in the library.

[00:25:26] Yeah.

[00:25:27] And you know it's

[00:25:29] it's the Jews that

[00:25:30] are suffering and

[00:25:32] they are losing their

[00:25:33] right to an education

[00:25:34] because of these

[00:25:35] protesters. So Tom

[00:25:37] Cotton and the reason

[00:25:39] this article it's by

[00:25:40] Noah Rothman National

[00:25:42] Review and he says

[00:25:45] Tom Cotton is right

[00:25:46] again is because Tom

[00:25:48] Cotton wrote an editorial

[00:25:50] for the New York Times

[00:25:51] in 2020 about the

[00:25:54] deployment of the

[00:25:54] National Guard in the

[00:25:56] cities. Remember what

[00:25:57] was happening in our

[00:25:58] cities and it caused

[00:26:02] Barry Weiss who was

[00:26:05] an editor at the

[00:26:05] New York Times to quit

[00:26:07] and start her own very

[00:26:09] very successful

[00:26:09] publication because

[00:26:11] she's Jewish and she's

[00:26:12] also she may be a

[00:26:14] liberal on something

[00:26:15] but she's very much

[00:26:17] pro freedom and pro

[00:26:19] free speech and first

[00:26:20] amendment. And so she

[00:26:22] quit started free press

[00:26:24] and you know of course

[00:26:26] all that's going on now

[00:26:27] is she's talking about

[00:26:29] it and even went over

[00:26:29] to Israel. But that's

[00:26:31] why he was right again

[00:26:32] because now he's

[00:26:34] talking about what's

[00:26:35] happening on the

[00:26:35] campuses. And he said

[00:26:38] for instance that

[00:26:39] they're indulging

[00:26:40] hyperbole. He said

[00:26:42] that if the mayor Eric

[00:26:44] Adams won't send the

[00:26:46] NYPD to Columbia which

[00:26:47] I think he's now finally

[00:26:48] done finally and if

[00:26:50] the governor won't send

[00:26:51] the National Guard then

[00:26:52] Biden should protect the

[00:26:53] Jewish students. Right.

[00:26:59] He's worried about

[00:26:59] Michigan we've said that

[00:27:00] before but go in

[00:27:02] motivation and protect

[00:27:03] them from what is he

[00:27:05] says a nascent pogrom

[00:27:06] on these campuses.

[00:27:07] He's being blasted for

[00:27:08] saying that now and you

[00:27:11] know I say kudos to Tom

[00:27:12] Cotton for telling it

[00:27:14] like it is. He says

[00:27:16] there are scenes like

[00:27:18] you've seen in the

[00:27:19] 1930s in Germany.

[00:27:21] He's comparing this to

[00:27:23] that. It should never

[00:27:24] be tolerated.

[00:27:25] And then there's just

[00:27:26] this growing list of

[00:27:28] schools where these

[00:27:29] things are happening.

[00:27:30] And it's not just

[00:27:31] schools to its other

[00:27:32] public places bridges

[00:27:33] being blocked right now.

[00:27:35] People can't even get

[00:27:36] to work. So the whole

[00:27:37] country is basically on

[00:27:40] fire or you know

[00:27:42] it's lighting up and

[00:27:45] you know something could

[00:27:46] be done. We could

[00:27:47] have National Guards

[00:27:48] out there police forces

[00:27:50] out there and we could

[00:27:51] have a word from the

[00:27:52] president and that

[00:27:53] would help.

[00:27:54] You know you mentioned

[00:27:55] Barry Weiss and I've

[00:27:55] held this book up

[00:27:56] before in my booklet on

[00:27:58] anti-Semitism.

[00:27:59] I recommend it.

[00:28:00] She is liberal and

[00:28:01] she's very fair because

[00:28:02] she does have a chapter

[00:28:03] on anti-Semitism on

[00:28:05] the right.

[00:28:06] I mean let's remind

[00:28:07] ourselves Tiki torches

[00:28:08] in Charlottesville but

[00:28:10] it's a really small

[00:28:11] chapter.

[00:28:12] And I would say if she

[00:28:13] revised this book the

[00:28:15] chapter on the left

[00:28:16] anti-Semitism on the

[00:28:17] left would dominate

[00:28:19] the book because it's

[00:28:20] gone from bad to worse

[00:28:22] since she's written this

[00:28:22] book. And again she

[00:28:24] was the one that left

[00:28:25] because she actually had

[00:28:26] run that Tom Cotton

[00:28:28] editorial before.

[00:28:28] So the connection between

[00:28:30] all that is pretty

[00:28:31] significant.

[00:28:32] Kelly.

[00:28:32] Yeah it's there's so

[00:28:33] much to talk about in

[00:28:35] this.

[00:28:36] I mean I think the

[00:28:38] interesting thing about

[00:28:41] this is is number one

[00:28:42] seeing the different

[00:28:43] responses.

[00:28:44] It really shows you

[00:28:47] that it's easy to

[00:28:48] control if you actually

[00:28:49] follow your rules and

[00:28:51] you enforce your rules

[00:28:53] which is what you

[00:28:53] should do.

[00:28:55] You know freedom doesn't

[00:28:56] work if there's chaos

[00:28:57] and lawlessness.

[00:28:59] So in order to have

[00:29:00] freedom you have to

[00:29:02] have lawfulness and

[00:29:04] you can't have you

[00:29:05] got to have order.

[00:29:07] And so should people

[00:29:09] be allowed to protest.

[00:29:10] Sure they should.

[00:29:11] People want to protest

[00:29:12] like that doesn't mean

[00:29:13] they have a right to

[00:29:14] to put tents up on

[00:29:16] somebody else's property.

[00:29:18] It doesn't mean they

[00:29:19] have a right to

[00:29:21] threaten people to

[00:29:23] refuse to follow.

[00:29:25] So it's kind of simple.

[00:29:26] It's like you can

[00:29:27] express your opinion

[00:29:28] and have a different

[00:29:29] opinion if you want to.

[00:29:31] But I think the way

[00:29:33] Texas handle things

[00:29:35] versus you know

[00:29:36] Columbia is a stark

[00:29:38] contrast right.

[00:29:39] And the interesting thing

[00:29:40] is they arrested 52

[00:29:41] people in the

[00:29:44] University of Texas

[00:29:44] situation and evidently

[00:29:47] some of the charging

[00:29:48] materials weren't

[00:29:49] drawn up very well.

[00:29:50] So they let I mean

[00:29:52] a bunch of those people

[00:29:53] go maybe everybody

[00:29:54] but 20 or something.

[00:29:55] But the interesting

[00:29:57] thing is almost 50

[00:29:58] percent of those

[00:29:59] people that they

[00:30:01] arrested weren't

[00:30:02] students.

[00:30:03] That's right.

[00:30:03] There you go.

[00:30:04] I mean so this is

[00:30:05] not this is fake

[00:30:06] right. This is this

[00:30:08] is what you know

[00:30:09] you know very

[00:30:11] naive and a

[00:30:13] foolish students

[00:30:15] you know gathered in

[00:30:16] with professional

[00:30:17] people and people

[00:30:19] who want to cause

[00:30:20] disruption.

[00:30:21] And you know if you

[00:30:23] let them have control

[00:30:24] they'll have they'll

[00:30:25] take control and it

[00:30:26] won't get any better.

[00:30:28] And they should I mean

[00:30:29] you know people are there

[00:30:30] for an education

[00:30:31] that you know again

[00:30:33] there's a right for

[00:30:33] people they want to go

[00:30:34] and have free speech

[00:30:36] even about something

[00:30:36] that is wrong.

[00:30:38] They can.

[00:30:38] They don't have a right

[00:30:39] to disrupt other

[00:30:40] people's education.

[00:30:41] They don't have a right

[00:30:42] for people to

[00:30:43] feel in fear

[00:30:45] of them of their

[00:30:46] own lives.

[00:30:47] And I just you know

[00:30:48] I think the

[00:30:49] counter to a lot of

[00:30:50] this stuff is

[00:30:53] bullies work

[00:30:55] when people kind

[00:30:56] of you know don't

[00:30:58] respond

[00:31:00] and you know how

[00:31:00] you're going to

[00:31:00] escalate.

[00:31:01] It's like no people

[00:31:02] and you've seen this

[00:31:04] yesterday you started

[00:31:04] to see pro-Israel

[00:31:06] rallies you know

[00:31:08] with not only

[00:31:09] Jewish people but

[00:31:10] Christians all together

[00:31:12] saying we're you're

[00:31:13] not going to intimidate us.

[00:31:15] You know what you're

[00:31:16] doing is evil.

[00:31:18] I mean you're siding

[00:31:19] with a terrorist

[00:31:20] organization

[00:31:21] that murdered

[00:31:22] innocent children

[00:31:23] and women

[00:31:24] and had rape squads

[00:31:25] and all kinds of

[00:31:26] just horrific.

[00:31:28] You know how dare you.

[00:31:30] You know what what kind

[00:31:31] of human being are you.

[00:31:33] I mean that you know

[00:31:35] it's what we've

[00:31:35] talked about often.

[00:31:36] Silence in the face

[00:31:38] of evil as Bonhoeffer

[00:31:39] said is itself evil.

[00:31:42] And it's what

[00:31:43] Alexander Sultanidze said.

[00:31:45] Right. You can't live

[00:31:46] by lies you have to

[00:31:47] you have to speak truth

[00:31:49] into the lies

[00:31:50] because the lies will

[00:31:51] never win.

[00:31:52] But you can't just sit

[00:31:53] back and I mean

[00:31:55] you know what should happen

[00:31:56] at Columbia is that

[00:31:58] the head of Columbia

[00:31:59] should be gone.

[00:32:01] But unfortunately the board

[00:32:02] is like minded

[00:32:04] and it's just horrible

[00:32:06] what what is happening

[00:32:07] to Jewish students.

[00:32:08] So I hope every person

[00:32:10] of Jewish descent will

[00:32:12] strip their money away

[00:32:13] from there. I hope

[00:32:14] every person who believes

[00:32:15] in decency will strip

[00:32:17] their money away from there.

[00:32:18] I you know I think

[00:32:20] we need to start having places

[00:32:21] where people can go

[00:32:23] and actually get an education

[00:32:25] and not be a part

[00:32:26] of some sort of

[00:32:27] you know Hamas

[00:32:28] education camp.

[00:32:30] And it's it's really

[00:32:31] disgraceful the way

[00:32:32] that they're handling

[00:32:33] these situations.

[00:32:34] Sometimes it depends on

[00:32:35] who the president is

[00:32:36] because let's pick

[00:32:38] California Pomona College.

[00:32:39] They actually arrested

[00:32:41] a couple of dozen students

[00:32:42] in a sit in.

[00:32:43] And that's part of the Claremont

[00:32:45] Men's organization.

[00:32:47] So there's one in California.

[00:32:49] But they're apart

[00:32:50] from that exception.

[00:32:51] It's been very true

[00:32:53] that the blue states

[00:32:55] have been much more

[00:32:56] permissive and have had

[00:32:57] a bigger problem

[00:32:58] than the red states.

[00:32:59] And of course Kelly

[00:33:00] made a contrast between New York

[00:33:02] and Texas.

[00:33:03] But you can see some of those

[00:33:04] all over the country.

[00:33:05] Can't you know I'm just looking

[00:33:06] that some of the ones

[00:33:08] mentioned in the Tom

[00:33:08] Cotton article in the Noah

[00:33:10] Rothman article about Tom

[00:33:11] Cotton Cooper Union.

[00:33:13] This is where they

[00:33:15] they went into the library

[00:33:16] and the students

[00:33:18] and they took refuge

[00:33:19] in there and they were

[00:33:21] compelled to leave under guard.

[00:33:24] At least they took them out.

[00:33:25] Cornell it was so bad

[00:33:27] the school advised

[00:33:28] the Jewish students

[00:33:28] to avoid the dining hall

[00:33:30] at Rutgers.

[00:33:31] The Jews were escorted by police

[00:33:33] out of a town hall

[00:33:35] rather than

[00:33:36] escorting the protesters away.

[00:33:38] And there's more, but we're

[00:33:40] we're out of time.

[00:33:41] We'll come back and talk about that.

[00:33:42] They're forcing Jews into hiding.

[00:33:44] We'll get to the other issues

[00:33:45] right after this.

[00:33:56] A rule has been added

[00:33:57] to the Federal Register

[00:33:58] that will make it

[00:33:59] nearly impossible

[00:34:00] for an incoming president

[00:34:01] to fire certain federal employees.

[00:34:03] The Office of Personnel

[00:34:04] Management issued the new rule,

[00:34:06] which will shield employees

[00:34:07] appointed by the executive branch

[00:34:09] from being terminated

[00:34:10] for opposing the policies

[00:34:12] and agenda of a president.

[00:34:13] The rule is to go into effect

[00:34:15] next month.

[00:34:16] It concerns employment protections

[00:34:18] in place for career

[00:34:19] civil servants that do not apply

[00:34:21] to political appointees.

[00:34:22] The rule is based upon the idea

[00:34:24] that career bureaucrats,

[00:34:25] often lifelong federal employees,

[00:34:27] should not be subject

[00:34:28] to termination because they are not

[00:34:30] classified as policymaking

[00:34:32] executive branch employees.

[00:34:33] But as past presidents have learned,

[00:34:35] career civil servants often fill

[00:34:37] policymaking and policy

[00:34:39] influencing roles.

[00:34:40] They can form part of the deep state

[00:34:42] that plagues incoming presidents

[00:34:44] when they try to implement

[00:34:45] conservative policies.

[00:34:46] National Review's James Lynch

[00:34:48] explains former President

[00:34:49] Donald Trump issued an executive order

[00:34:51] creating a new category,

[00:34:53] Schedule F, for policymaking employees.

[00:34:55] These employees would not be shielded

[00:34:57] for termination for perceived

[00:34:59] disloyalty to the president

[00:35:01] and his agenda.

[00:35:01] The rule states faithful execution

[00:35:03] of the law requires that

[00:35:05] the president have appropriate

[00:35:06] management oversight regarding

[00:35:08] this select cadre of professionals.

[00:35:10] President Joe Biden repealed

[00:35:11] the Trump executive order,

[00:35:13] according to Family Research

[00:35:14] Council's Washington Stand.

[00:35:16] The new rule protects those

[00:35:17] that the Biden administration

[00:35:19] has entrenched in the federal government

[00:35:21] from a possible Trump presidency.

[00:35:23] FRC's senior director

[00:35:24] of government affairs,

[00:35:25] Kina Gonzalez, says this new rule

[00:35:28] undermines the authority

[00:35:29] of the American people by tying

[00:35:31] the hands of an elected president.

[00:35:32] He says it undermines

[00:35:34] presidential elections.

[00:35:35] The issue goes beyond

[00:35:36] dueling executive orders.

[00:35:38] Though employees with experience

[00:35:39] and expertise are valuable

[00:35:41] to a federal workforce,

[00:35:42] their role is not to undermine

[00:35:44] a president or impede his effectiveness.

[00:35:46] Any rule that perpetuates

[00:35:48] a permanent ruling class

[00:35:49] should be jettisoned.

[00:35:50] For Point of View, I'm Penna Dexter.

[00:35:56] You're listening to Point of View,

[00:35:58] your listener supported source for truth.

[00:36:01] Backgrounds again, let me just mention

[00:36:02] we have so many other articles

[00:36:04] we're going to get to,

[00:36:04] but we suspected that

[00:36:06] you might want to hear

[00:36:07] a little bit more about this whole issue

[00:36:09] of what is happening on campus.

[00:36:11] And, Penna, you did mention

[00:36:13] a fairly long list,

[00:36:14] whether you look at Rutgers,

[00:36:16] which is in New Jersey,

[00:36:17] or Cooper Union,

[00:36:19] or Columbia Cornell,

[00:36:20] which is in New York.

[00:36:21] That tends to be kind of the phenomena.

[00:36:24] Of course, there are Hensel

[00:36:25] and I believe graduation

[00:36:27] services for USC,

[00:36:28] your alma mater in California

[00:36:29] and all that.

[00:36:30] And when you have individuals

[00:36:32] doing that level of disruption,

[00:36:34] that's different than free speech.

[00:36:36] That is more than just

[00:36:38] allowing individuals

[00:36:40] to express their point of view.

[00:36:41] That is deliberately disruptive.

[00:36:44] And it's also becoming

[00:36:46] what you might call the heckler's veto.

[00:36:48] That is, if somebody is going to heckle you,

[00:36:51] well, we have to close it down.

[00:36:52] And I'm seeing more and more

[00:36:53] of that happening.

[00:36:54] Another tactic of the left is

[00:36:57] if I can't win the argument,

[00:36:58] I will certainly try to censor you.

[00:37:01] But if you want to come

[00:37:03] and speak on a campus

[00:37:04] or you want to have day-to-day affairs,

[00:37:06] I'm going to create so much disruption

[00:37:09] that we're going to cancel

[00:37:10] in-person classes.

[00:37:11] We're going to cancel graduation.

[00:37:14] We're going to cancel

[00:37:15] any conservative speaker

[00:37:16] that comes on campus

[00:37:17] because after all,

[00:37:18] it would be too dangerous.

[00:37:20] And the example there in Redkirch

[00:37:22] is a good example.

[00:37:23] When you have the activists

[00:37:24] causing the disruption,

[00:37:26] who did they take out?

[00:37:27] Well, they took the Jewish students out,

[00:37:28] not the ones causing the disruption.

[00:37:30] Yes.

[00:37:31] And you mentioned,

[00:37:32] I think it was maybe during the break

[00:37:34] that it was blue states

[00:37:35] that were not doing the right thing.

[00:37:38] A lot of redder states,

[00:37:39] like for instance, Texas,

[00:37:40] I mean, they really clamped down

[00:37:42] at University of Texas

[00:37:43] when this came up.

[00:37:45] But you have this attitude

[00:37:47] about law enforcement,

[00:37:49] about controlling mobs

[00:37:51] that has gotten so lenient

[00:37:53] that they're almost afraid to do it.

[00:37:55] They don't do it.

[00:37:57] And so you have that.

[00:37:58] And it reminds...

[00:38:01] So you were saying blue states

[00:38:02] like New York, New Jersey, California,

[00:38:05] with the exception of Claremont.

[00:38:06] And at USC,

[00:38:08] it was sad for me as my alma mater.

[00:38:09] And when I was deciding

[00:38:11] where to go to college,

[00:38:13] it was the late 60s.

[00:38:15] And the campuses in California,

[00:38:18] my natural schools

[00:38:19] that I might've gone to,

[00:38:21] UC Santa Barbara, UCLA,

[00:38:24] well, they were having riots on campus.

[00:38:27] It was over the Vietnam War.

[00:38:28] And it was also just anti-establishment.

[00:38:31] And there was a lot of violence being done.

[00:38:35] And so of course, my dad said,

[00:38:37] no, you're not going to any of those schools.

[00:38:39] You're going to USC.

[00:38:41] Didn't help that he went there too.

[00:38:44] But USC now is just as bad.

[00:38:47] Yes.

[00:38:48] It's so sad.

[00:38:49] It's sad.

[00:38:50] Kelly, just for a second,

[00:38:51] I want to get your comments,

[00:38:52] but I've had some people say,

[00:38:54] where is this coming from?

[00:38:55] And so for those of you watching online,

[00:38:57] I'm gonna hold up a picture.

[00:38:58] This is Joseph Massad.

[00:39:00] Now you might say,

[00:39:01] well, I don't know who he is.

[00:39:02] Alan Dershowitz,

[00:39:03] who's been on the program with us many times.

[00:39:06] He's not a Christian either,

[00:39:07] obviously very liberal.

[00:39:09] Even when Massad was being up for tenure

[00:39:12] at Columbia University,

[00:39:15] he expressed some concerns

[00:39:16] because he had these deep kind of radical roots.

[00:39:20] And as a result said,

[00:39:21] he was also just kind of a mediocre scholar.

[00:39:24] And yet he is the individual that after October 7th

[00:39:27] came out and said that this attack by Hamas

[00:39:30] was awesome and insightful.

[00:39:34] And the other day in a hearing

[00:39:36] that was held in the House of Representatives,

[00:39:39] one of the representatives asked

[00:39:41] the president of Columbia,

[00:39:43] what are you doing about this individual?

[00:39:45] And she said, well, we've talked to him.

[00:39:47] Later on, we found out nobody even talked to him.

[00:39:50] But he said, you just talked to him?

[00:39:52] You mean you haven't suspended him?

[00:39:54] Oh no, well,

[00:39:55] and he's the chairman of one of these departments.

[00:39:57] You haven't removed him?

[00:39:58] No, we haven't removed him.

[00:40:01] You just begin to see the fear on her eyes

[00:40:04] about I don't dare challenge him.

[00:40:08] You might say, well, is he a one-off?

[00:40:09] Well, here's Mohammed Abdo.

[00:40:11] Again, I want people to see

[00:40:13] what these individuals look like.

[00:40:14] This one you can even say he endorsed Hamas,

[00:40:16] Hezbollah, Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

[00:40:20] And the question you've got to be asking Kelly

[00:40:22] I would think is why do they have,

[00:40:24] and I just mentioned too,

[00:40:26] the other day I mentioned a couple of others.

[00:40:27] These are all individuals, tenured professors,

[00:40:30] all pro Hamas organizers.

[00:40:33] And the reason they're there, many people say,

[00:40:36] this according to Alan Dershowitz,

[00:40:37] so he probably knows,

[00:40:39] is because they were getting money from Arab countries

[00:40:42] and they wanted to look very pro Arab.

[00:40:45] And remember Marlon Matich used to say,

[00:40:47] follow the money.

[00:40:48] And you start following the money.

[00:40:50] This is why we have such an Arab presence.

[00:40:53] And in this case, a very radical Muslim presence

[00:40:57] on many of these college campuses today.

[00:41:00] So when people say, where do these ideas come from?

[00:41:02] Right from the classroom.

[00:41:03] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:41:04] And of course, when you have leadership,

[00:41:07] what does it take?

[00:41:08] Columbia especially,

[00:41:10] it's probably the worst example right now.

[00:41:13] Look at what's going on there.

[00:41:15] You got to, they've attacked a Jewish student,

[00:41:18] stabbed a Jewish student in the eye with a-

[00:41:22] That was a Yale.

[00:41:23] Yeah, a Yale.

[00:41:24] They've got this, and then the weak response,

[00:41:30] it's really sad,

[00:41:32] but it's because behind those presidents is a board

[00:41:37] and their board is evidently as feckless

[00:41:41] and as supportive of the ideology

[00:41:45] ultimately as the president.

[00:41:46] I mean, again, if in this congressional hearing,

[00:41:51] if Professor Massad,

[00:41:54] instead of thinking that it was just wonderful

[00:41:58] that Hamas killed a bunch of innocent women and children,

[00:42:03] if he had said, kill the blacks,

[00:42:07] I mean, do you think that they would have talked to him?

[00:42:10] You know, I mean, this is so ridiculous

[00:42:13] and it's a matter of what people put up with.

[00:42:16] And again, I mean, you've got to,

[00:42:20] what's going to get their attention?

[00:42:22] And this is one of the reasons why

[00:42:24] I think it's a really bad idea

[00:42:26] to endow at these big universities.

[00:42:29] And I include Harvard and all the,

[00:42:30] well they got multi-billion dollar endowment.

[00:42:33] I mean, you don't know who's going to be in control

[00:42:35] of that later.

[00:42:36] I mean, that's a crazy thing to do with your money.

[00:42:39] But we end up with these kinds of horrible people

[00:42:43] in charge of children.

[00:42:45] And it's also why so many people

[00:42:47] are telling their kids either not to go to college

[00:42:52] or to certainly not to go to any of these type

[00:42:54] of colleges, which is a lot of the-

[00:42:56] Go to Liberty, go to Hillsdale, go to something.

[00:42:58] I mean, it's amazing how many people,

[00:43:00] because I mean, the colleges are like,

[00:43:02] I mean, I don't know what they teach.

[00:43:04] They don't necessarily teach very well

[00:43:06] except a lot of radicalism and maybe to hate your parents.

[00:43:09] And so there are a lot of parents now that are like,

[00:43:13] I don't think that's good for my kids

[00:43:14] to go to that college.

[00:43:16] So, I mean, I wonder, I really do wonder.

[00:43:20] I think the free market system

[00:43:22] is already starting to work.

[00:43:25] And I think you're gonna see a lot of these places

[00:43:27] that are so quote prestigious,

[00:43:31] losing their prestigiousness

[00:43:32] when people don't wanna go there.

[00:43:34] So at Columbia and some other places around the country,

[00:43:39] it's been six months

[00:43:40] that these demonstrations have been going on.

[00:43:42] It's not just recently,

[00:43:44] but just it's blown up all over the country recently.

[00:43:48] I just wanted to mention a couple things

[00:43:50] that can be done.

[00:43:51] For instance, I mentioned Greg Abbott from Texas,

[00:43:55] down in Austin, in Texas,

[00:43:57] the capitals right by the University of Texas.

[00:44:00] He acted very quickly and arrested people, okay?

[00:44:03] You can do that.

[00:44:04] That's one thing that should be done.

[00:44:05] Here's some other things Gary Bauer says.

[00:44:07] What can the administration really do?

[00:44:09] This is the question.

[00:44:11] One would be deport anyone involved

[00:44:13] who is here on a student visa.

[00:44:14] Amen.

[00:44:15] If you are not a US citizen and you're doing this,

[00:44:18] you just need to go home.

[00:44:20] Start arresting any agitators on campus

[00:44:22] who are not students or staff.

[00:44:23] And we're finding out there are a lot of them

[00:44:25] and they're being paid.

[00:44:27] A lot of dark money is going into this.

[00:44:29] I heard Rockefeller and Soros money

[00:44:31] and all these small organizations

[00:44:34] are funding some of this we're finding now

[00:44:36] and people going in and it's their job to demonstrate.

[00:44:39] Okay, here's another one of Gary Bauer's recommendations.

[00:44:42] Announce that any student found repeating calls

[00:44:45] for genocide and intimidating other students

[00:44:48] will have that flagged on their transcripts

[00:44:50] and official records.

[00:44:51] This will help any prospective employer know

[00:44:54] about the character of a job applicant.

[00:44:56] That would be really smart.

[00:44:58] And also the education department

[00:45:00] and justice department should find any university

[00:45:03] that cannot maintain safety for all students on the campus.

[00:45:07] Some good action items and we'll take a break.

[00:45:09] We have a lot more to cover right after this.

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[00:46:58] There's some time and attention on Title IX.

[00:47:00] Now you may not know what that is

[00:47:01] but it comes out of course of the civil rights movement

[00:47:04] and of course Title IX was an attempt

[00:47:05] to really provide an opportunity for equality

[00:47:09] and to prevent discrimination.

[00:47:12] But Penedexter, as you well know

[00:47:13] and of course Kelly's gonna weigh in with this as well,

[00:47:16] they've now decided to add a regulation to Title IX

[00:47:19] that prohibits discrimination and harassment

[00:47:22] based on, until you get to this list, it's pretty good.

[00:47:25] Then the list, sexual orientation, gender identity,

[00:47:28] sex characteristics and federally funded

[00:47:30] education programs.

[00:47:32] This is not what was intended when it was passed.

[00:47:35] And of course, as we've talked on this program

[00:47:37] many times before, this is an attempt to go back

[00:47:39] and find a law and modify it, reinterpret it

[00:47:43] because there's no way that this would actually

[00:47:45] pass Congress but if indeed that particular regulation

[00:47:49] goes through, it gets implemented I believe by August.

[00:47:53] School year.

[00:47:53] August 1st, by the school year.

[00:47:55] They say that this is not supposed to affect

[00:47:58] the women's sports programs but that is such a joke

[00:48:01] especially the fact that it's going to actually

[00:48:03] go into effect August 1st.

[00:48:05] And you said the civil rights movement,

[00:48:08] also the feminist movement because this sports agenda

[00:48:12] for bringing boys into women's sports,

[00:48:15] men into women's sports, it really erases women

[00:48:18] and it was kind of funny today,

[00:48:19] I was looking at the Babylon Bee,

[00:48:22] they had a piece about Title IX

[00:48:24] and one of the things it said was that,

[00:48:27] well the federal government would have to come in

[00:48:31] and make a requirement that there would be

[00:48:32] at least one real woman on these women's teams.

[00:48:38] I thought, you know, talk about the opposite

[00:48:41] of what the feminist movement was going for.

[00:48:44] The one thing that I could agree with,

[00:48:47] giving opportunities for women in sports,

[00:48:49] I saw that, I lived through that

[00:48:52] and I saw that really do a lot for a lot of women

[00:48:55] but that is, if they have their way,

[00:48:58] that's gonna go away.

[00:48:59] Yeah, I mean it's basically gone with this, right?

[00:49:04] I mean just what Riley Gaines went through,

[00:49:09] what so many young ladies are going through

[00:49:12] that have given their whole life to some

[00:49:15] particular athletic endeavor where they've given

[00:49:20] sweat, blood, tears through the years

[00:49:22] and then all of a sudden some guy

[00:49:24] who's not even in the top 50 can come in

[00:49:27] and take away all the records, all the championships,

[00:49:31] all the scholarships that that person would get

[00:49:35] and this is just so dishonest is the thing.

[00:49:39] They don't care, I mean it's just about an agenda

[00:49:43] instead of what is right or what the law says.

[00:49:46] The Title VII, I mean the word in the law is sex.

[00:49:52] Right.

[00:49:53] Okay, back when we did Title VII,

[00:49:57] the definition of sex was male and female.

[00:50:02] It was not sexual orientation,

[00:50:04] it was not gender identity,

[00:50:06] it was not any of these new things

[00:50:08] that have been pushed out.

[00:50:09] To go back and reinterpret and change the meaning

[00:50:14] of words is just, it's dishonest

[00:50:18] and so that's, so they're being dishonest

[00:50:21] and in the process to push something they wanna push.

[00:50:24] Now, the other problem with this is

[00:50:26] this will directly attack religious freedom.

[00:50:28] There you go, that's where we need to be.

[00:50:29] Because people have their beliefs about human sexuality

[00:50:35] out of their faith or their lack of faith.

[00:50:38] God couldn't have been clearer

[00:50:40] right in the beginning with Genesis,

[00:50:42] he made them male and female

[00:50:45] and I mean, it didn't make them transgender

[00:50:50] and all the other lists, LGBTQI, whatever.

[00:50:56] That's not male and female.

[00:51:00] And so people have religious beliefs about that

[00:51:03] and there are a lot of religious schools

[00:51:05] that will be impacted by this

[00:51:08] and every competition will be,

[00:51:10] I mean, because there's lots of people

[00:51:12] who are people of faith

[00:51:14] and there'll be schools,

[00:51:16] I mean, it's gonna create all kinds of litigation

[00:51:20] and my prediction is that they will lose

[00:51:25] because this is not what the law says,

[00:51:30] it's not what the word means

[00:51:32] and it is absolute foolishness

[00:51:36] to say that a man, a created male

[00:51:41] can participate in a competition with the females

[00:51:45] and that they're really a female

[00:51:48] because they think they're a female.

[00:51:50] I mean, that's what gender identity is.

[00:51:52] Well, my identity is,

[00:51:53] well, I don't really care what your brain says,

[00:51:56] that's a mental issue.

[00:51:59] We're talking about the physical makeup

[00:52:01] of males and females

[00:52:02] and this would destroy Title IX also

[00:52:06] and not only is an attack on religious freedom,

[00:52:09] I mean, women, what good is it to have, be given,

[00:52:13] you can't give something a chance

[00:52:16] and an equal chance to women

[00:52:18] if you won't define what women are,

[00:52:21] if you're giving it to men who say they're women,

[00:52:24] I mean, it just destroys Title IX

[00:52:27] but that's part when people vote

[00:52:29] like when they voted for Joe Biden,

[00:52:32] this is what those people were voting for

[00:52:34] whether they realized it or not.

[00:52:35] Whether they realized it or not.

[00:52:37] Well, what's happening in,

[00:52:38] I don't know how successful ultimately this will be

[00:52:41] but there's this effort to separate sex

[00:52:45] and that definition and gender.

[00:52:49] Yes.

[00:52:50] So, you know, I was born

[00:52:52] with these physical characteristics

[00:52:53] but that is my sex

[00:52:56] but my gender is something different.

[00:52:59] It's what I feel, what I think,

[00:53:02] what the doctors did to me when they castrated me

[00:53:05] or gave me a mastectomy, whatever.

[00:53:09] But this is just, it's horrible for religious liberty.

[00:53:15] I don't know, Kelly,

[00:53:16] do you know if there's a religious exemption

[00:53:19] in this new rule?

[00:53:20] Well, not in the rule

[00:53:22] but there is in a lot of law.

[00:53:25] So, when they try to apply it

[00:53:28] but it still is gonna run into it

[00:53:31] because even if an organization that's religious

[00:53:34] has extra rights to argue,

[00:53:37] individuals will still run into the situations

[00:53:41] over and over throughout,

[00:53:44] especially at all these public schools, right?

[00:53:46] Yes.

[00:53:47] Those aren't religious organizations

[00:53:48] but boy, there's a lot of people of faith

[00:53:49] who are now having to go in the same restrooms

[00:53:53] and bathrooms and everything else that comes with this.

[00:53:57] And they, you know,

[00:53:58] I mean, we've seen some of the competitions

[00:54:00] where the guy slash girl

[00:54:03] is like a hundred yards ahead of all the other runners.

[00:54:05] Oh, I know, some one the other day

[00:54:06] that was embarrassing for the girls.

[00:54:08] And it's, I mean, here's the thing,

[00:54:12] 90%, I don't know if it's 90, maybe 85%

[00:54:15] of people in the country look at this

[00:54:17] and they say, this is stupid, okay?

[00:54:19] We know this is not true.

[00:54:21] It's a very small percentage of people

[00:54:24] that think this is a good idea.

[00:54:26] It's just that they're counting on those people

[00:54:29] to not speak up, to go,

[00:54:31] well, you know, I don't wanna get in trouble

[00:54:32] or I don't wanna, you know what?

[00:54:34] This is what we talked about earlier.

[00:54:35] This is Alexander Soltz and Eatson's

[00:54:38] live not by lies.

[00:54:40] I mean, this is how Marxism works.

[00:54:42] You know, they say crazy stuff

[00:54:43] and everybody's supposed to go along.

[00:54:45] Well, that is not the DNA of America.

[00:54:49] We speak the truth.

[00:54:50] We have an exchange of ideas

[00:54:52] and enough people in this country know

[00:54:53] that this is not only biblically wrong

[00:54:56] and is spitting in the face of God

[00:54:59] but it's just, it's wrong from anybody

[00:55:02] with a brain that's being honest.

[00:55:05] And again, look at what we just talked about here.

[00:55:08] It's the word sex that's being interpreted

[00:55:10] and they're saying gender identity.

[00:55:13] That what does that have to do with sex?

[00:55:15] Sex is male and female.

[00:55:16] So they just make these things up.

[00:55:18] Right, they certainly do.

[00:55:19] We come back and wanna talk about maybe

[00:55:21] what that might mean in this upcoming election.

[00:55:23] And as we talked about with Marjorie Dannenfelser

[00:55:25] some of them may show up in these platforms.

[00:55:27] And since Kelly's written one of those platforms

[00:55:29] we'll talk about that next.

[00:55:35] This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.

[00:55:39] Summer is months away, but there's already news

[00:55:41] of an energy shortage on the Texas power grid.

[00:55:44] Most people would not think Texas

[00:55:45] would have an energy scare

[00:55:47] but officials already asked power generators

[00:55:49] to postpone scheduled maintenance

[00:55:51] to help alleviate potential tight conditions.

[00:55:53] Usually the grid has excess power generation capacity

[00:55:56] in the spring, especially given

[00:55:58] that the temperatures are in the eighties.

[00:55:59] One reason for the shortage is population growth

[00:56:02] but others have to do with the electricity needed

[00:56:04] for new data centers.

[00:56:06] Data centers need power 24 seven

[00:56:08] and cannot be shut off in a way that manufacturing plants

[00:56:11] or even Bitcoin mining can be shut down

[00:56:13] when there are peak energy demand.

[00:56:15] Although we need data servers in the cyber age

[00:56:18] it is worth mentioning that one significant amount

[00:56:20] of energy is merely used for pornography.

[00:56:22] Internet usage accounts for 10%

[00:56:24] of the world's total energy consumption

[00:56:26] and is estimated to reach 20% in a few years.

[00:56:29] One study estimated that 35%

[00:56:32] of the internet bandwidth is pornography.

[00:56:34] Data centers also account for about 2.5%

[00:56:37] of the US electricity, but are expected to use more

[00:56:40] than 20% by the end of the decade.

[00:56:42] That reason is artificial intelligence.

[00:56:45] A typical web search uses less than one watt of power

[00:56:49] an AI powered search requires 100 Watts training

[00:56:52] in AI search uses 1,000 Watts.

[00:56:55] A decade ago, the guardian warned

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[00:57:40] In fact, once again, let's if we can talk

[00:57:42] about the implications of some of this

[00:57:44] Cal Thomas in his piece

[00:57:45] which we've posted for you to read

[00:57:47] sort of raises the question, why at a time

[00:57:49] when the president's dealing with everything

[00:57:50] from inflation and the border and immigration

[00:57:53] and all that you would raise this issue as well

[00:57:55] but it brings us back to a conversation

[00:57:57] we had a few days ago with Marjorie Danenfelser

[00:57:59] because she's concerned that there might be

[00:58:02] some changes in the Republican party platform

[00:58:06] on terms of abortion.

[00:58:07] And since Kelly has been on some

[00:58:09] of those platform committees, I thought maybe

[00:58:11] you can talk about how it comes together

[00:58:13] but I think Penda you're gonna see differences

[00:58:15] like never before one platform talking

[00:58:18] about the fact that we need to have a secure border

[00:58:21] another platform that ignores it

[00:58:23] implies we should have an open border.

[00:58:26] One that talks about freedom of speech

[00:58:28] and another one that seems to endorse the idea

[00:58:31] that we have to censor misinformation.

[00:58:35] One party platform that says we want to protect

[00:58:38] the life of the unborn, the other

[00:58:39] that wants unrestricted abortion to the moment of birth.

[00:58:43] One that talks about the fact

[00:58:45] that we recognize two genders, two sexes

[00:58:49] another one that and you go down that list

[00:58:52] and I think we could Kelly tell me

[00:58:54] but maybe I'm wrong, we could have the most

[00:58:56] dramatically different two party platforms

[00:58:59] we have ever seen in American history.

[00:59:01] Oh, we probably will right?

[00:59:02] And I mean that's kind of the

[00:59:03] I know one of the articles I think you linked

[00:59:05] on pointofview.net is the article

[00:59:09] about this whole title nine

[00:59:12] and how it's like it's Cal Thomas

[00:59:14] like saying well, so like Biden needed something else

[00:59:20] to add to his list of what everybody

[00:59:22] is gonna be just totally against

[00:59:24] because most that's the great thing

[00:59:27] is at first people were wondering

[00:59:29] about this whole attempt to have

[00:59:32] this women's sports and women's locker rooms

[00:59:35] and all that they weren't sure what to say.

[00:59:37] It was, this was such a shock to people

[00:59:39] but I think you can see now the momentum shifting.

[00:59:43] A lot of states are passing laws,

[00:59:47] I mean there's lawsuits against the NCAA,

[00:59:49] a lot of the even professional ranks have said

[00:59:54] we're not allowing men in the women's sports.

[00:59:58] So there's I think the people are

[01:00:00] they know what's right, what common sense is

[01:00:02] and they're not gonna allow this.

[01:00:03] So I think this is gonna turn around.

[01:00:05] So for Biden, Cal Thomas is right

[01:00:07] for Biden to like lead the charge

[01:00:09] when they're about to fall off the cliff

[01:00:11] is just one more thing on his list

[01:00:14] that will not go very well with him.

[01:00:16] You know you were listing the issues

[01:00:18] and the immigration issue is another issue

[01:00:20] that's very unpopular or Biden's position on it

[01:00:24] is so unpopular and this is unpopular

[01:00:27] and so Kelly mentioned the states

[01:00:29] state after state now are passing laws

[01:00:31] to keep men out of women's sports

[01:00:34] and you also have states passing laws

[01:00:37] about the mutilation of young people

[01:00:40] and these are wacko practices.

[01:00:44] They really are and the people that support this stuff

[01:00:47] they are radical people.

[01:00:49] So when we get into politics

[01:00:52] and when people that go to conventions

[01:00:53] and do platforms and all of that,

[01:00:56] I mean even in the Democrat side

[01:00:59] you're really gonna get people

[01:01:00] that have to put this slashing of Title IX

[01:01:06] that used to be a Democrat issue

[01:01:09] because it was a feminist issue into the platform.

[01:01:13] Yeah, think of all that right.

[01:01:15] What was Trump's big weakness in the last election?

[01:01:18] It was suburban moms, right?

[01:01:21] I mean that was the big deal.

[01:01:22] Well, what does suburban moms think

[01:01:24] about taking away women's rights?

[01:01:27] What does suburban moms think about their children

[01:01:29] including their daughters

[01:01:31] who are denied educational opportunities and stuff

[01:01:34] because now guys can say they identify as a girl

[01:01:39] and they can now compete and take away scholarships

[01:01:41] and everything else.

[01:01:42] I mean, it's like let's find our best thing

[01:01:46] and let's try to damage it if we can't.

[01:01:50] That's how radical it is.

[01:01:52] Politically it's just,

[01:01:54] but it really shows something,

[01:01:57] Biden ran as somebody who was gonna be more moderate

[01:02:03] was gonna be in the middle.

[01:02:05] Really doesn't have a lot of things that you would say

[01:02:09] or Biden real core beliefs, right?

[01:02:11] I mean, he's just a lifetime.

[01:02:13] I don't know how many now it was 40 something.

[01:02:15] Is he in the 50s now, politicians?

[01:02:18] So close to 50 years in politics,

[01:02:22] riding off the government

[01:02:23] and just kind of doing whatever

[01:02:25] kind of would rise things for him.

[01:02:27] And so people thought he's kind of moderate

[01:02:29] but and I still think he probably is

[01:02:32] to the extent he still has his facilities

[01:02:35] but he has to do with the most radical part

[01:02:39] of his base wants him to do obviously, right?

[01:02:42] I mean, Ben had talked about the border.

[01:02:45] He can fix the border overnight.

[01:02:47] I mean, the only reason the border is out of control

[01:02:50] is because they took away all the things

[01:02:52] that Trump had in place that were executive orders.

[01:02:55] Those weren't laws passed,

[01:02:57] they were executive orders.

[01:02:58] He could put them back tomorrow

[01:03:00] but he can't because of the base.

[01:03:02] And that's the same thing with this Title IX.

[01:03:04] I mean, this is not something the country agrees with

[01:03:07] but his base would be very upset with him.

[01:03:10] And so he's got this radical part of his base

[01:03:14] that really leads him to do a lot of radical things.

[01:03:18] And the result is not good politically

[01:03:21] because that's not what people want.

[01:03:22] And I still think there's a shifting going on

[01:03:25] as we're watching.

[01:03:27] I think it used to be that the Democratic Party

[01:03:29] was seen more as the blue collar worker.

[01:03:33] And I think they're losing that.

[01:03:35] This kind of stuff is what pushes the average guy

[01:03:39] who goes to work and has dirt under his fingernails.

[01:03:43] He's like, what?

[01:03:45] He's like, that's not my party.

[01:03:47] And I think this is part of that whole shift

[01:03:53] especially with people of faith because they know.

[01:03:56] They know right from wrong

[01:03:57] and they're not going with any party

[01:03:59] that's going in that direction.

[01:04:00] So I think while that's going on,

[01:04:03] you got the elites who are moving over

[01:04:06] in the Democratic fold and some of the chamber commerce

[01:04:11] and all that.

[01:04:12] So it's an interesting sort of shifting in politics.

[01:04:16] And what that means is there's more people

[01:04:19] now available to the Republican side

[01:04:21] but there's a lot more money and power

[01:04:24] and media, microphones, et cetera for the Democrats.

[01:04:29] It's a real shift in the country.

[01:04:31] It's the transformation of the country

[01:04:33] which is what Obama said he would do.

[01:04:35] And the other part of it, I think of the equation

[01:04:39] politically is if you look across the country right now

[01:04:42] what's going on on the campuses

[01:04:43] there's a whole generation of people

[01:04:46] that they weren't educated well

[01:04:48] and they're not being educated well

[01:04:50] even at the most elite colleges.

[01:04:52] So they are radical.

[01:04:55] So they're voters too.

[01:04:56] And that's the scary part of all of this.

[01:04:59] That's why we have to have courage to speak out

[01:05:03] and not live by lies because if we even try

[01:05:08] to accommodate a little bit, we do tremendous damage.

[01:05:12] And I think we as believers especially

[01:05:16] because we have the power of the Holy Spirit

[01:05:20] to act correctly and we know the right ways to act.

[01:05:23] And so that power gave us a lot of action steps

[01:05:25] with regard to the antisemitic riots,

[01:05:29] but there's just, we also have to I think

[01:05:33] encourage our pastors who don't like

[01:05:36] to talk about these issues to do it.

[01:05:39] They need to.

[01:05:40] The word courage has come up a lot of times here.

[01:05:42] First of all, I stand corrected.

[01:05:44] I'd forgotten that Joe Biden was elected

[01:05:46] when he was 29 years of age.

[01:05:48] So that makes it 1972.

[01:05:50] So he's actually been in office 52 years.

[01:05:54] So it is more than 50 years since.

[01:05:56] Isn't that amazing?

[01:05:57] Just think back, think back.

[01:05:59] What is he known for?

[01:06:00] What substantive position that he's so-

[01:06:02] Pagerism and-

[01:06:03] Yeah.

[01:06:04] He's known for being bad on foreign policy.

[01:06:06] Yeah, he is.

[01:06:07] So it's interesting because it shows what a politician,

[01:06:11] and without an issue or a passion or a-

[01:06:13] He's also known for going back on his position

[01:06:17] support of the Hyde Amendment.

[01:06:18] Yeah.

[01:06:19] On the abortion.

[01:06:20] Funding of abortion.

[01:06:20] Yeah, we talked about that before.

[01:06:22] And it's-

[01:06:22] You know, a lot of good accomplishments.

[01:06:25] It's about-

[01:06:26] It's about-

[01:06:27] I mean this is what the problem is with Congress, right?

[01:06:29] How many of those people in the House and the Senate

[01:06:32] are not there because they care about the policies,

[01:06:35] but they're there because they want to advance themselves?

[01:06:38] No.

[01:06:38] I mean that's what most people think about,

[01:06:40] and I'm not saying they're wrong

[01:06:41] about most people in the House and the Senate.

[01:06:44] Yeah, we know there are people

[01:06:46] who really do believe in things and push-

[01:06:48] On the left and the right, right?

[01:06:50] I mean they have very strong beliefs

[01:06:51] and they're pushing for those policies,

[01:06:53] and people want them there to push for those policies,

[01:06:55] but you know, there's the old deal of the uniparty.

[01:06:58] Right?

[01:06:58] That's what people say right now.

[01:07:00] There's really no difference.

[01:07:00] They're all just there, you know,

[01:07:02] to kind of make sure that they all rise up in positions

[01:07:05] and power and money and influence.

[01:07:09] And I mean, you know, Joe Biden.

[01:07:12] I mean again, there's just-

[01:07:14] You can't nail it to say what his thing really is

[01:07:17] that's been his whole life

[01:07:19] because he's switched around on these things so often.

[01:07:22] It's not- it's hard to pick one.

[01:07:25] Well, again, we're talking about the turmoil

[01:07:27] that would happen inside the convention,

[01:07:29] but just remind you,

[01:07:30] the convention for the Democrats this year is in Chicago,

[01:07:33] and a lot of people have said

[01:07:35] there was a Democratic convention in 1968

[01:07:37] and there were riots outside about war,

[01:07:40] about anti-Vietnam War.

[01:07:42] Will there be riots outside about Israel?

[01:07:46] Some people have said what starts in Columbia

[01:07:48] ends in Chicago.

[01:07:49] So we may be in for a really tumultuous political campaign

[01:07:54] or on a very number of levels, but let's take a break.

[01:07:57] We have a lot more to cover.

[01:07:58] We'll do that right after this.

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[01:09:47] And now here again is Kirby Anderson.

[01:09:50] Final half hour we have in studio with us today,

[01:09:52] Benedictor and Kelly Shackelford.

[01:09:55] I'm gonna talk about an AI generated hate crime hoax.

[01:09:59] Now, if you have ever received my commentaries,

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[01:10:07] Penn is on Saturday.

[01:10:08] And over the years, almost every year

[01:10:11] I write a hate crime hoax

[01:10:13] because there are so many of them,

[01:10:15] not just a hoax but many of those.

[01:10:17] And as one individual jokingly said,

[01:10:20] oh, Jesse Smollett must have been devastated

[01:10:22] and didn't think of this first

[01:10:23] because now with AI,

[01:10:25] it is possible to get people

[01:10:27] to actually say things they've never said

[01:10:30] or to completely impersonate an individual.

[01:10:33] And that's exactly what has taken place.

[01:10:36] A high school principal, Eric Eiswert,

[01:10:39] was actually heard of actually making very racist

[01:10:43] anti-Semitic comments on a recording.

[01:10:47] Only problem with that Penn is it was generated

[01:10:50] by chat GBT.

[01:10:52] It was generated by artificial intelligence,

[01:10:55] which is one of the reasons why

[01:10:57] I'm always gonna be good friends with Megan

[01:10:59] who digitally edits me because after all,

[01:11:02] they could take out a word here,

[01:11:03] move a few other words and make me say things

[01:11:05] I've never said before.

[01:11:07] And as Matt Walsh said,

[01:11:10] I think we've crossed the Rubicon.

[01:11:12] Now you will hear people saying things.

[01:11:14] You will even see on some of these videos,

[01:11:16] people saying things that they never said.

[01:11:19] And so here is a perfect example

[01:11:21] of how AI was used to create a hate crime.

[01:11:25] And it was a hoax from the start to beginning.

[01:11:27] And this was actually orchestrated by an employee.

[01:11:30] He was a disgruntled employee

[01:11:32] that worked in the athletic department

[01:11:34] at the high school where this guy was principal.

[01:11:37] And the principal was temporarily removed

[01:11:40] from his position and his reputation was destroyed

[01:11:44] for all these anti-Semitic

[01:11:46] and anti-black, quote unquote, comments on this recording.

[01:11:49] And it went out on social media,

[01:11:52] ranting about black students and Jewish families.

[01:11:55] And it was all very derogatory.

[01:11:57] And it turns out he said none of it.

[01:12:00] The police investigated.

[01:12:02] They concluded that it was AI generated.

[01:12:04] There were some people that looked at the audio

[01:12:06] and they suspected, apparently,

[01:12:09] the breasts in some of the AI generated audio

[01:12:14] is they're just wrong.

[01:12:16] There's a wrong rhythm or it's very flat sounding.

[01:12:20] So some people that are used to listening

[01:12:22] to this type of thing suspected that.

[01:12:25] And finally that got investigated.

[01:12:27] And so the guy who was like,

[01:12:30] I guess he was an associate athletic director

[01:12:32] at this high school or something,

[01:12:34] he was arrested for doing it.

[01:12:37] But it's really,

[01:12:41] it's horrible to think that this can be done.

[01:12:43] That words can literally be put in your mouth

[01:12:48] and go viral.

[01:12:51] What do you do about that?

[01:12:52] I mean, that could ruin your life.

[01:12:54] Yeah, it's, now at least you can figure out

[01:13:03] whether it was real or not.

[01:13:04] What's scary is they get better.

[01:13:06] Yeah.

[01:13:08] What about when we get to the point

[01:13:10] where you can't tell the difference?

[01:13:13] That's when it gets really difficult.

[01:13:15] Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be people,

[01:13:18] I mean, there are people out there thinking about a job.

[01:13:22] I mean, there's gonna be people

[01:13:23] that need to be an expert on this

[01:13:25] to point out whether it's real or not.

[01:13:28] And they'll probably always be people now doing that

[01:13:31] to make sure.

[01:13:33] So it just creates more complication.

[01:13:36] And it, but it's really scary

[01:13:38] what people can do to your lives.

[01:13:40] I remember Raymond Donovan,

[01:13:42] he was labor secretary under Ronald Reagan

[01:13:44] and he was accused of all sorts of things,

[01:13:46] none of which was true.

[01:13:48] And eventually he was vindicated,

[01:13:50] but then he asked a question that this kind of raises.

[01:13:53] Where do I go to get my reputation back?

[01:13:56] I mean, just think,

[01:13:57] if you wanted to ruin Kelly Shackelville's reputation,

[01:14:01] because after all, we don't like him

[01:14:03] and they're standing up for religious liberty.

[01:14:04] And I start circulating some things

[01:14:06] that Kelly supposedly said.

[01:14:08] And you could pull some of the audio from him

[01:14:12] and cut it in a way that would be inappropriate

[01:14:14] or you could actually have a voice

[01:14:17] that sounds a lot like him.

[01:14:19] And what bothers me about this

[01:14:20] is how quickly people jumped on this

[01:14:23] and wanted to get rid of him.

[01:14:25] And that has been my frustration

[01:14:27] with especially local media.

[01:14:29] When Jesse Smollett came out,

[01:14:31] again, many of you at least know who he is,

[01:14:34] he came out and made the statement.

[01:14:36] We were watching it on Channel 8 News,

[01:14:38] which was the local affiliate, WFAA.

[01:14:40] And I'm watching it and Suzanne's walking by

[01:14:42] and said, that's terrible.

[01:14:44] And I said to Suzanne,

[01:14:44] I bet you a hundred dollars it's false

[01:14:48] because it didn't register right.

[01:14:50] And you might say, well, why would I say that?

[01:14:52] Because I've been writing so many commentaries

[01:14:55] up until that time about fake hate crimes.

[01:14:58] And really did somebody think

[01:15:00] that somebody was walking at 2 a.m. in the morning

[01:15:03] when it was almost sub zero weather

[01:15:05] and two individuals that were wearing mega hats

[01:15:09] were trying to get, I mean, they did.

[01:15:11] I mean, there were times when you just said, please.

[01:15:14] And yet the local media covered it with a straight face

[01:15:17] and there were people outraged for days.

[01:15:20] And then even after you could prove that it was fake,

[01:15:23] there were still people that still believed it.

[01:15:25] And I mean, you just, after a while,

[01:15:26] you just say, what is wrong with people?

[01:15:28] Because I think you have to have

[01:15:30] a healthy level of skepticism.

[01:15:32] Are there racist?

[01:15:34] Yes.

[01:15:34] Are there people saying racist and anti-Semitic things?

[01:15:36] Yes.

[01:15:37] But sometimes it just goes so beyond the pale

[01:15:41] that to think that a principal would have said that

[01:15:43] is a little bit much.

[01:15:45] And at least to say,

[01:15:47] let's find out if that really is true.

[01:15:49] But people are just in this polarized culture

[01:15:52] just jump into it instantaneously.

[01:15:54] Well, and that's the thing.

[01:15:55] It's like, if there was any time

[01:15:58] in the history of our country

[01:15:59] where you might wanna question the media,

[01:16:03] and what they're saying.

[01:16:05] I mean, really?

[01:16:07] I mean, I don't care if you're left-wing or right-wing.

[01:16:09] I mean, everybody, I think right now

[01:16:11] kind of distrust the media

[01:16:14] because they're not really doing the...

[01:16:17] I mean, it used to be that objective journalism

[01:16:21] was kind of redundant.

[01:16:25] Journalism was supposed to be objective

[01:16:28] and you would read a paper

[01:16:29] and even if somebody was biased,

[01:16:31] you could at least read them.

[01:16:33] And you knew they were biased

[01:16:34] and you could read their bias in the article.

[01:16:36] They were trying not to be biased.

[01:16:39] And now everybody's like, I don't care.

[01:16:42] And then add to that

[01:16:43] that because of the money situation

[01:16:46] with journalistic enterprises,

[01:16:50] the New York Times, the Washington Post, et cetera

[01:16:52] having to be bought to save them basically,

[01:16:57] you have reporters

[01:16:58] and this is whether TV or radio or print,

[01:17:02] they don't really do the homework they used to do.

[01:17:06] They don't have time.

[01:17:08] Their job is to shoot out stories

[01:17:10] that get people excited.

[01:17:14] So they'll...

[01:17:15] Yeah, and so the result is they're not checking.

[01:17:18] So you got a loss of standards,

[01:17:21] you got a loss of manpower

[01:17:23] and the result is a lot of really bad journalism.

[01:17:27] The only thing in our favor is

[01:17:29] because of the capitalism and our system,

[01:17:33] there's all these other even small ones

[01:17:35] who will check on things.

[01:17:37] And so as something gets out there,

[01:17:39] usually there's enough other people

[01:17:41] on the internet and otherwise,

[01:17:42] some of which have some expertise

[01:17:44] in a particular area that'll check

[01:17:46] and it comes out.

[01:17:47] So I'm just shocked because people are all...

[01:17:50] I mean, everybody should be massively suspicious.

[01:17:54] I mean, I've said for years

[01:17:56] one of the reasons I think Point of View

[01:17:58] is such a treasure is because,

[01:18:03] as a biblical Christian in this country,

[01:18:06] I mean, what media do they listen to and think,

[01:18:10] oh yeah, I can trust them?

[01:18:13] Point of View is one of the only places

[01:18:15] because I mean, number one,

[01:18:17] because of the perspective of a biblical perspective

[01:18:20] but also because Kirby is like a computer Bible teacher

[01:18:26] and he's a guy, right?

[01:18:27] And so anything that's gonna be talked about

[01:18:29] is gonna be checked on.

[01:18:30] He's gonna have the facts.

[01:18:32] He's gonna have stacks of papers on it.

[01:18:34] And just through the years,

[01:18:35] they know that if they're on Point of View,

[01:18:37] they're not gonna be told something

[01:18:38] that some crazy conspiracy theory.

[01:18:40] They're gonna hear something

[01:18:42] and they're gonna hear the facts

[01:18:43] and the details behind it and everything.

[01:18:45] And they're gonna be able to make their own decision.

[01:18:47] That's the whole point with Point of View.

[01:18:48] You're gonna hear other people's opinions,

[01:18:50] mine, Pena's, everybody else's

[01:18:52] but Kirby is not going to mislead you about the facts.

[01:18:55] He's gonna have the facts.

[01:18:56] And, but there's almost nowhere you can go and get that.

[01:18:59] And so I just, I don't get that people buy

[01:19:02] what they see first, because it's crazy now.

[01:19:04] Yeah.

[01:19:05] And check it out because you can go out right now

[01:19:07] on Facebook, I don't encourage people to do that.

[01:19:09] And you will see other people

[01:19:10] with the name Kirby Anderson with my picture

[01:19:12] and it's not me.

[01:19:13] You know, so-

[01:19:14] Wow.

[01:19:15] And again, I'm just hoping

[01:19:16] that those individuals that have been doing that

[01:19:18] one the other day tried to friend Suzanne, my wife.

[01:19:21] She said, why am I getting a friend request?

[01:19:25] Because this is from one of those phony temps, you know.

[01:19:28] But again, somebody out there is probably gonna have me

[01:19:31] on that other Facebook page say something

[01:19:34] and I get in trouble for it when I didn't actually say it.

[01:19:36] Well, if they do a fake page of me

[01:19:37] I at least hope they make me better looking.

[01:19:39] Yeah.

[01:19:40] Why did I use my picture?

[01:19:42] I don't know.

[01:19:42] Anyway, we're gonna take a break.

[01:19:43] And this booklet that we've made available

[01:19:46] on Deep State is still available to you.

[01:19:49] And you're gonna want it after you hear right now

[01:19:51] Penedexter's commentary.

[01:19:53] It's called the Deep State Lock-In.

[01:19:56] Most of us, Kelly and I

[01:19:58] we all kind of learned some new things here.

[01:20:00] So you might want to listen to it right now.

[01:20:02] If not, we'll come back and talk about it with Penta

[01:20:04] because it's a piece which again is available.

[01:20:06] And if you of course sign up

[01:20:07] to get the various viewpoints commentaries

[01:20:10] this one is on the website right now

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[01:20:15] if you sign up for it tomorrow on Point of View.

[01:20:18] Let's take a break.

[01:20:19] We'll listen to Penedexter and talk about it

[01:20:20] right after this.

[01:20:32] A rule has been added to the federal register

[01:20:34] that will make it nearly impossible

[01:20:36] for an incoming president to fire certain federal employees.

[01:20:40] The office of personnel management issued the new rule

[01:20:42] which will shield employees appointed

[01:20:44] by the executive branch from being terminated

[01:20:47] for opposing the policies and agenda of a president.

[01:20:50] The rule is to go into effect next month.

[01:20:52] It concerns employment protections in place

[01:20:55] for career civil servants

[01:20:56] that do not apply to political appointees.

[01:20:59] The rule is based upon the idea

[01:21:00] that career bureaucrats, often lifelong federal employees

[01:21:04] should not be subject to termination

[01:21:06] because they are not classified

[01:21:07] as policymaking executive branch employees.

[01:21:10] But as past presidents have learned

[01:21:12] career civil servants often fill policymaking

[01:21:15] and policy influencing roles.

[01:21:16] They can form part of the deep state

[01:21:18] that plagues incoming presidents

[01:21:20] when they try to implement conservative policies.

[01:21:22] National reviews James Lynch explains

[01:21:25] former president Donald Trump issued an executive order

[01:21:28] creating a new category,

[01:21:29] schedule F for policymaking employees.

[01:21:32] These employees would not be shielded from termination

[01:21:35] for perceived disloyalty to the president and his agenda.

[01:21:38] The rule states

[01:21:46] President Joe Biden repealed the Trump executive order.

[01:21:49] According to family research councils Washington stand

[01:21:58] Trump presidency.

[01:21:59] FRC's senior director of government affairs,

[01:22:02] Kena Gonzalez says this new rule undermines

[01:22:05] the authority of the American people

[01:22:06] by tying the hands of an elected president.

[01:22:09] He says it undermines presidential elections.

[01:22:11] The issue goes beyond dueling executive orders.

[01:22:14] Though employees with experience and expertise

[01:22:17] are valuable to a federal workforce,

[01:22:19] their role is not to undermine a president

[01:22:21] or impede his effectiveness.

[01:22:23] Any rule that perpetuates permanent ruling class

[01:22:25] should be jettisoned.

[01:22:27] For Point of View, I'm Penedexter.

[01:22:32] You're listening to Point of View,

[01:22:35] your listener supported source for truth.

[01:22:38] Back once again we're talking about deep state

[01:22:39] for just a few minutes.

[01:22:40] I might just hold up my booklet

[01:22:41] which is available free of charge.

[01:22:43] Came out a couple of years ago

[01:22:45] and the idea of the deep state goes back to Turkey.

[01:22:48] I won't go into all the history

[01:22:49] but there was in some of these different countries

[01:22:52] groups where all the decisions were being made

[01:22:55] by bureaucrats and so the argument has always been

[01:22:57] if you go to Wikipedia is that this is just

[01:23:00] a conspiracy theory and it's funny

[01:23:03] because just about the time Donald Trump

[01:23:04] was about ready to leave office

[01:23:06] and Joe Biden was coming into office

[01:23:08] and you saw this article in The Washington Post saying,

[01:23:10] will the deep state of Donald Trump affect Joe Biden?

[01:23:13] Oh, now we found there's a deep state.

[01:23:16] But here Pena, you've got a very concerning issue

[01:23:19] because one of the things that Donald Trump wanted to do

[01:23:22] through an executive order

[01:23:23] is create a category called schedule F

[01:23:26] which then made it more likely

[01:23:29] that you could remove a civil servant.

[01:23:31] It's almost impossible to get rid

[01:23:33] of some government employees

[01:23:35] but if they're going to undermine the policies

[01:23:38] of the duly elected president of the United States

[01:23:41] and undermine even the laws passed by Congress,

[01:23:45] I think we've got a problem

[01:23:45] and so tell us what's going on here.

[01:23:48] Yes, we do have a problem.

[01:23:49] Donald Trump recognized it

[01:23:51] and he wanted more people to be able to serve

[01:23:55] the pleasure of the president in a sense

[01:23:57] because there was just a lot of civil servants

[01:24:01] who you could say, well, they're in here

[01:24:03] because of their expertise, their experience

[01:24:06] and so from administration to administration, they stay

[01:24:11] but we are just getting to the point now

[01:24:15] where people will, they could be in the government

[01:24:20] and they will oppose the president,

[01:24:22] the sitting president that they work for

[01:24:25] and so this is becoming a problem with Trump

[01:24:29] and so Trump said, and then there are the ones

[01:24:31] that are actually appointed as policy people.

[01:24:34] Those people, they can be removed immediately

[01:24:38] by the next president and probably will be

[01:24:39] but there's this whole contingent of people

[01:24:42] that were kind of in there

[01:24:45] and the next president's got to fight that deep state

[01:24:48] and Trump was fighting the deep state

[01:24:49] so he created this new category, schedule F

[01:24:53] for policymaking employees.

[01:24:55] These people really do make and influence policy

[01:24:58] but they weren't categorized that way

[01:25:00] so he categorized them.

[01:25:01] Well, when Biden got in, he immediately uncategorized them

[01:25:06] and now he's pushing through a rule

[01:25:09] that makes that even stronger

[01:25:11] so that because I think they're thinking

[01:25:14] if Trump is elected, they want to make sure

[01:25:17] that they still have a lot of their leftists

[01:25:19] in the government

[01:25:20] and they have a lot of their people entrenched

[01:25:23] and so this rule is out there

[01:25:26] and the rule has to be opposed

[01:25:30] because it will make it very difficult

[01:25:32] if Trump is elected.

[01:25:33] Family Research Council talked about it.

[01:25:36] Their Washington Stand publication says

[01:25:39] that the rule protects those

[01:25:40] that the Biden administration has entrenched

[01:25:43] in the federal government from a possible Trump presidency

[01:25:48] and really what it does is undermine the will

[01:25:51] of the people in electing a certain president.

[01:25:54] So really it's something that we all need to be aware of

[01:25:58] if you ever see the word schedule F,

[01:26:00] that's what it is.

[01:26:01] It's a category of people.

[01:26:03] It's a good category to have.

[01:26:05] We need to have it.

[01:26:06] Biden has thrown it out

[01:26:08] but we need to have and protect schedule F employees

[01:26:12] so that new presidents can have the employees

[01:26:15] that are more aligned with them philosophically

[01:26:18] so that they can do what they were elected to do.

[01:26:21] You know, I was thinking that Friedrich Hayek

[01:26:23] wrote a book called The Road to Serfdom.

[01:26:25] I even did a week of radio programs on it

[01:26:27] and a lot of people said

[01:26:28] but that's exactly what he was saying

[01:26:30] that at the end of World War II,

[01:26:32] he was recognizing that the bureaucracy

[01:26:34] was already starting to control so much in England

[01:26:38] and of course you have the course

[01:26:40] the National Health Service and the rest.

[01:26:42] But later you of course have Dwight Eisenhower

[01:26:45] talking about the military industrial complex.

[01:26:49] You have the influence today

[01:26:51] of the intelligence services.

[01:26:53] I mean, what is it?

[01:26:54] 50 different individuals that signed a letter saying,

[01:26:56] well, the Hunter Biden laptop itself

[01:27:00] was probably Russian disinformation.

[01:27:02] These are not people actually working

[01:27:04] on behalf of the American people.

[01:27:07] They're perpetuating their own situation, aren't they?

[01:27:09] Yeah, and it's, I mean, think of the bill we just passed.

[01:27:15] What was it?

[01:27:16] It was at 80 billion for Israel.

[01:27:17] 95 total.

[01:27:18] 95, so you've got Israel, Taiwan and Ukraine.

[01:27:24] And I think most people think the money goes over there.

[01:27:28] That's not where the money goes.

[01:27:30] The money goes into the United States

[01:27:32] to defense contractors who are making money

[01:27:35] sending this over there.

[01:27:36] So do you think there are any people

[01:27:39] in the defense industry that have some hooks

[01:27:41] into the people in Congress, the president?

[01:27:45] I mean, so that's how, I mean, I think people know that

[01:27:49] but they don't know that when they see the bill

[01:27:50] they tend to think, oh, you know, it's a...

[01:27:54] So there are people they wanna entrench

[01:27:57] in there for their interest.

[01:27:58] They want them not to be gone.

[01:28:00] And this is a huge, huge issue if Trump wins

[01:28:04] because most people who support Trump would say

[01:28:08] if he gets in, one of the first things he needs to do

[01:28:11] is clean out the DOJ, the FBI, the CIA

[01:28:18] all these people that were-

[01:28:19] The EPA.

[01:28:20] Yeah, that were and what's gonna be in their way.

[01:28:23] There's gonna be all these laws

[01:28:24] that protect those people from being moved

[01:28:28] out of their office.

[01:28:28] Now, I mean, Vivek Ramachami had an idea

[01:28:32] which was he'd say, we'll just do all the odd numbers.

[01:28:36] So it's like, you know, it's not,

[01:28:37] you can't say that you're doing-

[01:28:39] Shaking somebody out, yeah.

[01:28:40] Yeah, and so, I mean, but there are a lot of,

[01:28:43] but they have thought about this

[01:28:44] and this is gonna be, I think this is gonna be

[01:28:47] if Trump wins-

[01:28:48] This will be the issue.

[01:28:49] I think this will be the biggest issue

[01:28:52] because this will be the first time

[01:28:54] if it happens that there really is an attack

[01:28:57] on the deep state.

[01:28:58] They have always had control, no matter who is in there.

[01:29:02] And this is why people call it the Uniparty

[01:29:04] and if they ever gets done up there,

[01:29:05] it doesn't seem like.

[01:29:08] And they, you know, this is the real attack.

[01:29:12] And so because of that,

[01:29:14] they'll do everything in their power

[01:29:15] probably to try to make sure Trump is not elected.

[01:29:18] But this will be a fascinating battle

[01:29:21] if Trump were to win because that issue is a,

[01:29:26] it's the key to so much of what we see going on.

[01:29:29] And I think one of the things

[01:29:30] that's really gonna hurt the deep state

[01:29:32] or the bureaucracy is the decision,

[01:29:35] the Loper case that'll come down in June

[01:29:39] and that's gonna take away a lot of their power,

[01:29:42] I think, the Chevron deference issue.

[01:29:45] So that's gonna-

[01:29:46] So that's where the word of the agency

[01:29:49] has so much clout, right?

[01:29:51] There's too much clout.

[01:29:52] The court has to defer to the agency

[01:29:55] about what their ambiguous regulation really means.

[01:29:59] Well, you know, I mean,

[01:30:01] that's letting the fox guard the chicken coop, right?

[01:30:05] And so-

[01:30:06] Judges always have to defer.

[01:30:06] So that's gonna change.

[01:30:08] And when that changes, groups like the EPA,

[01:30:11] groups like, by the way,

[01:30:12] the EPA just issued new regulations

[01:30:15] to try to shut down oil and gas.

[01:30:18] And so these are big issues

[01:30:21] that a lot of people don't pay attention to

[01:30:22] but it's where all the power really is.

[01:30:24] And again, bureaucracy, their power is about to be

[01:30:28] whittled down pretty significantly, I think,

[01:30:31] from that Supreme Court case that'll come down in June.

[01:30:34] But the ultimate battle will be this

[01:30:36] about all of these,

[01:30:37] how many people can a new president move out

[01:30:39] and put new people in there?

[01:30:40] That's gonna be-

[01:30:42] And look, I understand there's a reason

[01:30:44] why we want some career employees.

[01:30:46] Of course.

[01:30:47] You have expertise.

[01:30:48] Yeah, you don't wanna lose

[01:30:49] all your expertise and everything.

[01:30:51] But when people are political

[01:30:53] and they kind of have their agenda,

[01:30:55] I mean, they have no business staying in there

[01:30:57] under a new president to misuse their office

[01:31:00] for a different political agenda,

[01:31:02] different philosophy than,

[01:31:05] I mean, that really does.

[01:31:06] As Pena said, that really is

[01:31:08] a disrespect of the electorate

[01:31:09] and who they put in office

[01:31:11] and what they wanted them to do.

[01:31:11] I think fewer and fewer civil servants

[01:31:14] see it that way.

[01:31:15] They see themselves as political

[01:31:17] even though they're not classified as political.

[01:31:20] They don't act as professionals anymore.

[01:31:23] So they should lose that privilege.

[01:31:26] And they sit here and say,

[01:31:26] even if you're here four years or eight years,

[01:31:28] I'm gonna be here longer.

[01:31:29] So we know what's best.

[01:31:31] So we'll decide for you.

[01:31:33] Well, we're out of time.

[01:31:34] Some other really good articles

[01:31:35] we might want to get to next week.

[01:31:37] But first of all, I wanna thank Megan.

[01:31:39] Thank you always Megan

[01:31:40] for digitally eduling this so well.

[01:31:42] And Steve, thank you for that as well

[01:31:44] in producing the program.

[01:31:46] We'll see you back here on Monday.

[01:31:48] Who can you trust?

[01:31:51] Years ago, many of us could probably

[01:31:53] have provided a fairly long list.

[01:31:56] But today, well today it seems

[01:31:58] we almost can't trust anyone.

[01:32:01] Educators don't even know what a woman is anymore.

[01:32:05] Many so-called public servants

[01:32:06] have shown all they care about is themselves.

[01:32:09] The FBI has been accused of bias,

[01:32:12] law breaking, betrayal and journalism.

[01:32:16] It's largely corrupt with no Clark Kent

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