Multitasking, AI Voice Clones, and Mobile Security Essentials

[00:00:19] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, happy to welcome you to all wow welcome to tech watch radio ladies and gentlemen happy to have you along

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what it's crazy

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: How much tech there is in the news never stop so much so that I got all derailed as I start

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Even started the show cuz I was looking at a tech thing and then a bunch of numbers gotten my story

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was trying to delete those out and talk at the same time and up the problem is people just don't multitask

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Very well Jay. No they don't I'm not good at it

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I used to be I feel like when I was younger I was better at it and maybe that was just kidding myself

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know but I'm I tend to be a do things in cereal when I wanted a time you lose a lot of time

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Unlike a PC that can just you know go round robin with a whole bunch of tasks

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You lose a lot of time in the transitions between things and a lot of focus so it's better

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I bring that up though because you know people don't multitask very well

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's true when you get older that you get less good at it

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's also true that females are better at it than males

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Human brains. That's that's true. You know a guy walks in he's like, hey man, this smells good

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Where's the pizza? You know a woman walks into the house and she's like I hear a baby crying and somebody's missing and

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: There's like 20 things he takes in all at once or whatever

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But the point is for me at least as I get older

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I cannot multitask as well as I used to either and really computers don't multitask they

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Time slice and really that's what humans do too now

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: There's different and people say well, can you talk at you come at the same time Sam or can you swallow?

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know I get that there's automatic things you do you just breathe in your heart beats and you know

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: There's different levels of tasks to kind of applying this to computers and computers are kind of similar

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You know they can keep the time and the date and you know

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Keep certain things happening in the background that that happen while other things happen

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But when it comes to core focus functions or things neither people or computers

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the whole reason I'm spending time on this

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Multitask very well and the more you have complicated tasks computers don't do well either whether they're background or not

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's really just a prioritization time slice discussion and how much foreground versus background time they get and really humans

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Computers are patterned after humans Jay

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they are I think computers are better at it

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're a lot better because you know they can just they're doing math when they're doing that and they're just

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You know doing that time division and slicing things up and and working at it a hundred percent and people get confused people get distracted

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't happen as much in computer. I think computers are phenomenal at multitasking

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: They're better at it in some ways in some ways not and this is the interesting thing between the brain and a computer in a

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Lot of ways computers are great at repetition tasks complicated tasks that are repeated over and over

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: They're very good. They're very fast. They're very efficient

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Within its realm of what it knows it's very good, but only within its realm

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you an example if you give a computer something that it doesn't know about

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Instantly it can't even deal with it. It'll either shut it down or it'll be completely ignored

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Right depending on what kind of interruption it is

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_01]: humans on the other hand can deal with that interruption in very creative very

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Intelligent ways and artificial intelligence at least so far can't do that really either

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Not yet they're working on it though. They're talking about it. They're not working on it

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to be there. They're no further than they you know kind of interesting because everything I see I mean

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I even asked chat GPT questions now turbo for chat GPT and it's like I don't know about that yet

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: What I mean, you don't know about that yet if you're artificially intelligent

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Why don't you think about it for a while? How long do I need to give you?

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I've never asked a question of chat GPT that didn't know an answer for it

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Even if it just made one up, but I the only thing is I've ever asked it that it that it will back out of our

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: questions of modern history and you know like something that happened recently my my

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Sphere my intelligence or whatever doesn't include that. Yeah, I don't have I only go to this date or whatever it is

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But only rarely have I ever seen that

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, but humans don't do that

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know they they can adapt and they can apply things that they know to things anyway

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of interesting point is if the computer would have started the show it would not have got interrupted like I did

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And it would have done it more gracefully for sure. Well, we can automate them

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: We can we can have yeah, we can automate Sam's

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of that I don't know if you saw this headline but this headline is very interesting

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Headline basically says that actors and actresses now can license their voices via AI

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So that you don't have to pay the actor actress to do something like a pay union dues and all this kind of stuff you can I

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't know what you call it license the AI version of the approved actors voice or actresses or professionals voice to do things

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen this? Wow, no, I have not seen that but I wonder do they get a final say on on the product before it goes to production

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so. I think that you agree to license the voice and then they do it

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't surprise there won't there that doesn't mean there won't be lawsuits down the line saying well

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait a minute

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: This is out of scope and that doesn't mean there won't be complicated contracts to kind of govern a lot of what you're pointing to

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it will right? Yeah

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw a story recently of a guy who does voiceovers all the time

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And he had done something for a company and then they had to go back and modify it and they used AI using his voice and he was

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Not happy about it to say the least and he was going after him for some

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: monetary

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You know get some of that back because he was not happy about them

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was only like I think the only fixed a couple of words or whatever

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: But he was you know both artistically and financially not happy about it at all

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so the headline just to be accurate about the exact headline

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: actors

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Can license AI voice via?

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Union deals MSN AI generated voices might become more competent or more

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: More common thanks to this new agreement that they've worked out in the union deal

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But again, everybody could license your voice. So let's just say that I said this it's gonna cost a

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Hundred bucks an hour to bring salmon to do something

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what if you want to use my voice

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Then it's only you know ten dollars an hour to license my voice AI wise to do whatever

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's gonna make things cheaper

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna get a lot of cool voices to be used

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But again on the back end you might get lawsuits if I use it for political purposes

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's say and I use it for something that somebody doesn't agree with or whatever else

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna kind of go south in a hurry and they're gonna be like hey

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't use it for that number to say yes, I can the licenses

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I can then they're gonna update their licenses or they're gonna so this is a new field

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's changing the game is the point indeed

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And so you're gonna license your voice J for that. I don't think anybody's gonna buy my way

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Your voice is much more popular sound than mine

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about that and I you know whether people would license our voices for things or not

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just don't know because believe it or not at some point the artificial voices are gonna be just as good if not better than

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Most people's voices now if you have such a unique voice

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: What would be a good example go for God free?

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Something like that, you know the godfather or some it's a unique voice or whatever that's like oh man

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody recognizes that then probably but beyond that even actors and actresses voices

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Aren't that valuable anymore out of context meaning if it's in a certain genre maybe so a gaming console about

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You know Jason Bourners anyway, all I'm saying is something like that could be

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's gonna get to where you don't even recognize voices and I got an example to give you okay

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right so there's a lot of people collaborating on music

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And so post Malone is a rap guy that now just released a country album

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And I know people are going Sam here so far from Tech. It's not even funny

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know just listen to me

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So this guy's a rap guys name is post Malone and he's now making a country album

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And he hooked up with a guy named Hank Williams Jr. A well-known country guy from the right, you know 80s

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And his father was Hank Williams and you know just iconic as I'll get out

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: well, they did a country song together and

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Believe it or not the country song sounded kind of like eight Williams jr. Music would sound and

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You could certainly you know hear post Malone on there

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But when Hank Williams jr. Started to sing I couldn't even recognize that it was Hank Williams jr. He didn't sound

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: He sounded great, but he didn't sound like himself if that makes any sense

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder why is that processing or was that I don't know I or what?

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe processing maybe AI maybe auto tune maybe

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know it just didn't sound like his older stuff and maybe he's maybe older

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, he sounds different that's possible, but he sounded a little bit young like post Malone

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So your question about processing comes up. The whole point that I'm getting at is hey

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Without knowing that was a partnership between post Malone and Hank Williams jr. I would not have known that that was Hank Williams jr

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: On there. Yeah, so they check out this new post Malone song check it out

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So I know Hank Williams jr. Music well, but I would have not have recognized it had I not known as my whole point

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you people are going to license these things what about in the past when people I say for example

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Say you wanted a quote from Arnold Schwarzenegger on your

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Video game or your commercial or whatever and you just get an impersonator to do it. What would be the difference there?

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they don't have to pay royalties to the actual Arnold Schwarzenegger someone who's being

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: In person if you want the original AI version of his voice you're gonna have to pay for it

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I it's just a cost AI is just a really good impersonator, right?

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Well that will be subjective lawsuits and contracts and anything else so the question becomes do you have the right to

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So called copyright your voice and say listen no AI impersonators. I don't know

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so we're really and that's why we're spending so much time on this even though it seems like it's not tech

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It really is and it matters to artists and musicians and people that use voice for different things

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And it matters to people who paint or people who do drawings or people who create logos or people who you know

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: All kinds of fields that relate to tech are gonna be affected by this because

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: When is it the real McCoy when is it an AI version of the real McCoy?

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: When is it a real AI clone because you got to use words specifically?

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: When is it a real clone of the real McCoy? When is it just an impersonator AI clone now?

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So I am like this is a yeah, yeah exactly if I impersonate Schwarzenegger really good

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Just say and then they clone my voice and you know

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you tell the difference in my clone and Schwarzenegger's clone and well the real clone?

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Please stand up right so I don't know the answers and neither does the tech world and neither does licensing at this point

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_01]: No, but the lawyers are getting ahead of it

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_01]: They have no question

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: They certainly are

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But I found that interesting and this headline literally says right now actors

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Can license AI voice clones in union deal according to MSN. I just found that fascinating enough

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_01]: To say that's worth reporting

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about because we're always talking about AI on this show and it anyway. There you have that for whatever

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[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_01]: the top 10 list

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: For keeping your mobile phone secure this is the big one Jay that I think people really kind of need to pay attention to

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they are talking about this is coming from J. Hill and they're talking about 10 easy tips to mobile cell phone security

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Number one is lock your device with a pin or password and never leave it unattended in public

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: That seems to make sense

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean most people are doing this nowadays

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But I still run into people that are running on like an iPhone and they don't even have a password on it

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they just they don't like the inconvenience of a password

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't feel like their phone's gonna get stolen and I guarantee you if thieves knew that your phone

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: If it weren't the exception to be like that phones are beginning to stole left and right because

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just amazing that people nowadays would just run their phone like that with how much data and how much personal

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Information is on your phone

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So make sure that you lock your device with a pin and a password

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And don't leave it unattended in public cuz somebody will swipe it even and you think well now

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Apple in other companies Android everybody else has done a pretty good job in locking down phones that were they're kind of useless to people without it

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: However, they will ship them overseas and they will use them for parts

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And so if you have the latest iPhone, it's still subject to get stolen if it's if it's unattended well

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You've got those one of those things called where you they take the car and it's like a chop shop. Yeah chop shop

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay chop shop anyway, so they're becoming chop shop for phones

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They're just simply saying hey we can use your screen. That's exactly right when a screen cost $400, you know, yeah

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know you could sell it one or two pieces out of it. They don't even care about the rest exactly

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So be careful with that number two

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I also make sure hold on they also say don't leave your phone unattended in public

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean that to me is like the biggest no-brainer on the planet. Yeah, yeah

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I know but it happens nobody does but people do it all the time

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean you wouldn't believe how many times we see you know a phone in a bathroom and you take it to the lost and found or whatever and

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Look around when you're walking though somebody sitting there getting a

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Coffee or whatever the counter and they set the phone down on the counter

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And then there somebody you know comes up to them and they're talking to somebody in their phones just over there on the counter

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You have kind of in sight. Yeah, but a quick hand could make that sucker gone in two seconds

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_00]: We were at an event look around there's phones everywhere man my family now we're at an event

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: it wasn't even huge event it was it down in Gainesville and

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_00]: We found two separate phones that we like you know turned into people that people had just dropped or left

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean one was like sitting in a place and another one was just on the ground

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You know a phone and you gotta tell you how to people

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Leave their phones and what I don't understand too is these phones are expensive as heck. Yeah, some of them very much are

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_01]: People do you sleep like thousand dollar bills laying around?

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: All right uninstall apps you don't use Jay this one's critical to that is a variety of reasons spying and everything else, right?

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right because a lot of apps have a

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Things on it that you don't want they use your battery

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_00]: There's just a number of good reasons to uninstall apps that you don't use if it's everybody

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I could if it's an old version that could have a hack that's been fixed in newer versions

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you're not using it, you're not upgrading it so you don't you're not aware the list just goes on and on and on

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, especially if you've had your phone for a couple of years

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You've tried things you've used things you've had services that you don't use anymore

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You'll have apps in there and you just need to clean that out occasionally

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And I am into that number three download apps only from known

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_00]: trusted sources Jay, that's right. You want to make sure that

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_00]: For example Apple does a pretty good job. So does Google with their Play Store don't sideload apps for example

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You can get a lot of

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Stickiness doing that if you can help it or if you're gonna do that use a test phone for it

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or just jailbreak everything and just be on your own I guess

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you stay on the planet, you don't jailbreak, you don't sideload

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't do all those things download apps from trusted sources and keep your phones operating system up to date. That's critical too

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: They say install antivirus software

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is one that I kind of agree with halfway and half disagree with

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm finding that the antivirus software oftentimes is making devices so slow

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And oftentimes when you have a problem, it's the antivirus software. Yeah, especially on windows the problems

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Windows and it's true on phones too. So I don't this is one that I kind of mixed up on this one a little bit

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't necessarily agree that I guess if you're if you're running Android, I probably would say yes on Apple

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I I don't think you need to on windows

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you need to if you're the average user you can use Windows Defender and you're pretty good now a lot of companies will

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Will have extra

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: virus software for example MSPs and things like that they're gonna have

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Extras antivirus stuff for you and they probably vetted that well and that's good for you

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know that the average just individual solo person needs

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Antivirus or needs to be managing that themselves without having some sort of expert helping them with that

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You're right about that

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Now it's also important to remember

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a little bit of a difference between the corporate world

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And your personal world in the corporate world a lot of times that's required because

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You know you're accessing a lot of their internal data systems and things like that

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: We're a leak. I mean it's bad if it's a personal leak

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But if it's a corporate leak, it's much much worse and so absolutely remember that too

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And when you're in business that extra step of an ISP or I should say an MSP is vital

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: When you're in your own personal world too usually if you have you know an internet provider usually they have

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Fire walls and protections and things like that that protect you as well before it ever even gets to you

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You want to use your phone's feature?

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Find me feature or whatever to prevent

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Loss or theft as well so you can find your phone J whether you 100 attended or not

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You got a I mean people need to enable that you got to do that. I that's my most of time

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: That saves you from yourself J. Yeah, I was gonna say that is saved me before

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean we use live 360 with my family, but I have

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I have lost my phone one time before we actually fell out of a clip that was broken and I didn't realize

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was raining and stuff and you know

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I just got done saying how do people leave their phone laying around?

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, this actually has happened to me one time before

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But the find me feature was critical because I was worried that someone had stolen my phone

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They had stolen it and taken it off with it

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_00]: But I could tell that it was you know knows clear

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_00]: There was close by and near enough to me that it had left the vicinity and

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Was able to track it down moving yeah, and not moving and so I was able to track it down

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It was out in the parking lot like I said it was raining, but that's why I couldn't see it. It was also face down. Thankfully, but

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, definitely turn on that find my feature and I also say you know get with somebody that you know

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Love and trust and make sure that you're sharing your location with people

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it in a situation or an issue you need to have people that can find you and that you can

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Help find them if there's a problem or somebody doesn't know where somebody is or just for peace of mind

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a there's a lot of good things and good reasons to do that 360 is great for that

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I use that to an agree you want to cover your camera

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: When not in use as well if you can oftentimes that way

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And no one's turning on a camera and viewing things that you ought not want them to view for whatever reasons as well

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That's back up your data that I think that's a little bit old to cover your camera

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not impossible to do it's just used for too many things now

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It is you're using it for scanning website off every second

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you can you have some cases that have kind of shutters that you can slide over and maybe that's a little bit more

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Convenient but like covering it with a piece of tape or something

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I see people doing this with phones

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I it's a little hard to air

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know to argue with them airing on the side of caution

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you have a good operating system and you trust it and you you know are responsible

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_00]: For example, you follow some of the other items on this list. I don't think you necessarily need to cover your camera

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You shouldn't be getting malware in there where somebody can spy on you or open up your camera

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Unless you're being targeted by nation state or something in that case, you know, you probably shouldn't even have a cell

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I would say day to day life

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_01]: No when you're traveling a lot though covering up your camera makes them sense

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're on a plane and traveling through airports and traveling all kinds of different places and hey, you know

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a bad idea

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_01]: If your phone's just kind of with you back up your data, I think that's critical no matter what you do

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, encrypt the data if you have sensitive information on your phone. I think that's for the most part given

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little hard for people to do though encrypt the data. That's that's another layer that happens

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: If you like I said if you're on a decent phone if you're on I know apple's well because that's what I use

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but even if you're samsung or google this is all being done by default

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_00]: The data is being encrypted so somebody can't just remove the drive and get your information

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's got to boot up. It's got to go through a tpm and it's got to be secure and I'd almost don't know anybody that isn't doing that

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, whether they know it or not really

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's something to be aware of don't click on links or attachments

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh from unsolicited emails or texts that to me is a given even if you even if you think it's a solicited

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Or even if you think you know the party still don't click on it unless you're kind of expecting something or know that it's safe

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is where

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You know when it comes to a

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Sticker over your camera. We're kind of saying a little less caution fine

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You got to be realistic this one. I would I would encourage more caution agreed. This is the real gotcha

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: This is where people get in trouble

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: They get an unsolicited text or an email or say they're expecting a package from something and they get

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Some random text that just says hey, well, there's been a problem with your delivery and click on this link

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: They're much more inclined to get fish that way and to get into trouble and give more information than they need

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Or try to log into a spoofed website and you got to be very very careful with that stuff

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you know where you're going and if you're ever in doubt if you see an email

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Just open up a web browser navigate to that website log in like you normally would or use make sure that you're using a password manager like

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: bit warden or

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Key pass or any of those ones so that security is the one I use keeper

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So that because it will see the url and if the url's being spoofed or it's slightly off or they've misspelled something

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to present your credentials to that site because it'll be like i've never seen this site before

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So those things can you're going to go? Oh what the heck's wrong? Yeah instantly your attention is heightened for sure

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a bonus one. This is when they say that I think it's really important and this not only goes for your cell phone j

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But computers and all devices really

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Never connect your phone

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_01]: To public wi-fi in fact we find it best

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_01]: To leave your wi-fi off unless you know you're using it so that you don't automatically just connect the things

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Or people don't connect to you you're better off getting your own hot spot or you know find a way or get a vpn

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Or you've got to have something extra. You can't just

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you just can't be periscuous. I don't know how else to say it j

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's true and it's gotten better though public wi-fi

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_00]: When things were in the clear

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Was problematic to be sure now that everything like let's say you're opening your gmail account or something

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all going to be over ssl. It's going to be encrypted anyway. You're not as in bad of shape there

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I would agree with that. I would turn off wi-fi if you're not using it. I would um run a vpn

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_00]: That's one way that you can securely use a public wi-fi

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: If you can use a vpn somewhere

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you can help it get a hot spot or use your cell phone as a hot spot or whatever the case may be to where you're just not

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_01]: On public wi-fi is just i'm telling you so don't don't use them. Yeah, it depends on where you're at too

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean if you're going to like a def con convention in vegas, you better just leave your phone at home because

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_01]: One way or another that's right and it depends on the public wi-fi to him and if you're if you're

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: What would be a good example if if you're at the senior citizens something in your local town or whatever

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That wi-fi might not be the same as say an airport wi-fi in

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, chicago or something like that. Yeah, you gotta you gotta be a little bit self aware too. The two aren't identical ones

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you know what? It's your hometown. Could it ever be hacked? Yes, but the likelihood is not very good

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas the other one it's like uh man, there's just marauders everywhere and stuff

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And so it really depends kind of on where you know if you're at a public park

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_01]: A wi-fi is a lot more dangerous for example

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Than the senior center. I mean those are pretty extreme examples

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But i'm trying to make the point here that you gotta be kind of self aware and kind of look at it that way a little bit too

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Um and say okay, well listen, you know what?

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: This is my grandma's house. I don't know that it's public. Yeah her private wi-fi. Okay. That's not public

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So i'm not saying you can't connect me any wi-fis. I'm just saying strategically think about it

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's like having your own hotspot

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You know if you're at grandma's and she's got you know some small windstream modem or whatever

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: They're connected with cocks or something. You know, that's going to be pretty safe

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's also another um interesting thing is if you have um, let's say um, Comcast for example

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: They have a free wi-fi on a bunch of people's routers that you can kind of piggyback off of

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So you can use that stuff too and be sure that's pretty secure

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Amen to that. All right, man. We're out of time another tech watching the can thanks for being alongside spread the word

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