Episode 134 Hour of Decision: LBJ(3) Dark Deeds, “A Warm Pitcher of Spit,” and Dodging Bullets in Dallas

Speaker 0: Have the men of the West lost the will to live? It's midnight in America, and this is the hour of decision. Tell me what you're gonna leave behind if you go cutting off your life. Hour of decision with Lou Moore starts now. Speaker 1: Welcome to the one hundred and thirty fourth episode of hour of decision. My name is Lou Moore, and today, we continue our journey through the life and the presidency of Lyndon Baines Johnson, thirty sixth president of The United States, and folks, an evil thinker and wrongdoer all the way, all the way. And today, we're gonna explore a little bit more of the dark side of Lyndon. Dark deeds, a warm pitcher of spit, and a near death experience in Dallas. So Lyndon Johnson was the majority leader of the United States Senate. He became the most powerful and masterful majority leader ever according to just about every knowledgeable historian on that period and on the life of Lyndon Johnson, a massive Wheeler dealer, somebody who was completely in the thrall of our corporate masters. He did everything they wanted when he was standing up for Franklin Delano Roosevelt as a young congressman even when the public was not wanting to get more involved in Europe and get into a war. This is pre Pearl Harbor. Johnson stood up at every turn for the various machinations of Franklin Delano Roosevelt that we discussed in our Roosevelt episode that led us into the second World War. Johnson was all about it. Johnson was a huge supporter of the efforts that occurred after World War two for the United Nations. He was a huge supporter of the national security state. Once, as I cataloged in our last episode, once he got to the senate in 1949, he was on the Armed Services Committee. Got really close to our defense establishment and supported Truman in all of his internationalist efforts. And I might add, he also supported, Truman to the best of my knowledge. I see nothing that contradicts it on the record and all of Truman's evasions that, protected members, of his White House, members in his administration who were being exposed as communists, like Alger Hiss, like Harry Dexter White, is just two examples. So Johnson was all about this. If you remember, FDR, was helping out Johnson by assigning his fixer, Tommy the cork Kerkorian, the under you know, the the guy, behind the curtain doing all the fix scene for Roosevelt doing the deals. Roosevelt didn't wanna get his, yeah, he didn't wanna get his hands dirty. He sent out all over twenty four seven. He was the man. And Johnson had him doing or excuse me, Roosevelt, pardon me, had him doing things for Johnson. And after Roosevelt died, Johnson continued, that, relationship with Tommy the Cork, as they called him. I mean, this guy was so devious, folks. Harry Truman had him wiretapped. Harry Truman didn't trust Tommy the Cork any farther than he could throw him. And, of course, considered Kekorian to be a Roosevelt loyalist and definitely not a Truman loyalist anyway. Along the way, Lyndon Johnson developed a very close relationship with him that lasted all the way, until, Kekorian died after Johnson was in the White House. And so, very plugged in, very plugged into that whole Roosevelt network, very plugged into business as we talked about in the last episode. Brown and Root, who was servicing all of the big new oil magnets in Texas like H. L. Hunt, like Cliff Murchison, all these different individuals accumulating a huge amount of wealth and power and owing it in no small degree to the machinations that Lyndon Johnson undertook in Washington DC, first as a congressman and then as a United States Senator and then as the majority leader minority and then majority leader of the United States Senate. So Johnson acquiring power on all sides, doing everything the globalist want. The only time he did not do what the globalist wanted was when he stood up for Israel during the Suez crisis and actually confronted Dwight David Eisenhower about this. And Johnson, let me tell you, always very, very, very close to the lobby as we now call it, but to the Jewish influence over Washington DC. And we'll talk more about that one. I think we'll get to that one in this episode. So Johnson, huge power base, but tried for the White House, just didn't work for him. Could not overtake the Kennedy machine, could not knit labor and the left into his cause to the degree he needed to to stop the Kennedy machine because of his earlier machinations moving from the left toward the right and getting in good with the southern senators that made him majority leader like Richard Russell. And so we went over that in the last episode, but anyhow, Johnson is extremely powerful, and Robert f Kennedy is not loved by large parts of the establishment Democrat party. We also talked about that. And so Kennedy invites Johnson onto the ticket under pressure under pressure folks from, a code of governors, big city bosses, people not from the South. As a tell me the court of Koren, very involved, making the phone calls, bringing people together, trying to deliver the vice presidency for Lyndon Johnson by lobbying John f Kennedy. And one of the big sales items they used was Kennedy had to once again, as Democrats had been doing now for almost a hundred years, win a solid south of electoral votes to ensure that he could win the White House. And then as I've, alluded to more than once, a launch on a major legislative initiative to rival the New Deal to take that next big leap forward in the gradualist, Marxist, socialist project to centralize power in Washington DC, add tons of government employees, tons of government spending, and to move us closer to total government as well as moving the internationalist project, full steam ahead. Johnson was a reliable hand in that area and was trusted to be involved in doing this. So, these individuals, despite the vociferous objections, these other individuals prevailed on JFK to put Johnson on the ticket for all of these various reasons. And there was an interesting symmetry between Kennedy selecting Johnson in 1960 to be on the ticket with him and Roosevelt, the previous, hero of the Fabian socialist movement, putting John Nance Garner on his ticket in 1932 and kept him on in 1936, because Lyndon Johnson was he was the majority leader of the senate. A lot of people said, Johnson, you don't wanna take this other job. It's terrible. You know, they they don't let you do anything. It's only good if the president dies. Well, John Nance Garner in 1932 had just become the speaker of the house, which, by the way, folks, if you haven't read your constitution lately, is the third person in line for the presidency. The third most powerful person in that sense in our government. It's not the senate majority leader. It's not the secretary of state. It's not the attorney general. It's the speaker of the House of Representatives. That's what John Nance Garner was and had been for two years when Roosevelt plucked him for a lot of the reasons that were being thrown at Kennedy to become the vice president. Johnson or, Roosevelt, excuse me, was weaker in the South. He was a rich fellow from New York. He was, wanting to move to the left, but he needed southern support because every member of the house, virtually, and every member of the senate in the old South, the old states of the Confederacy, they're all Democrats, folks. Roosevelt absolutely needed them behind him in the new deal, and he had the emergency. He had the emergency of the depression. He had these things going for him, but it's still gonna be dicey to get through each item of legislation, this huge bill of particulars. That first one hundred days and everything after that, that we call the New Deal. And so he brought in John Nance Garner. Now Garner was basically an old school, smaller government, If you remember my episodes on the party system, I think I even alluded to this again in when my my recent episode on third parties. The Democrats used to be a small government party at one time. No. They weren't by the time of Roosevelt. That's for sure. Not the not the ruling elements of the party, but Garner was kinda from that old, smaller government school, but he went along with the New Deal. He was very loyal to Roosevelt, and he was important in making sure, legislation passed. But over time, Garner, as I talked about in different episodes, particularly the ones involving Roosevelt, after the nineteen thirty six election, ro Roosevelt's first reelect, the southern Democrats bail and form a coalition with the Republicans, most of the Republicans, and block the New Deal starting around '37, 1938. Well, a key reason this was successful was John Nance Garner, who was reelected with Roosevelt in '36 as a vice president. Garner was leading this rebellion against Roosevelt and wanted to be president himself in 1940. So this is John Nance Garner. And John Nance Garner is in Southern Texas as is Lyndon Baines Johnson. They know each other. Garner was on the list of the people that, Johnson really wanted to suck up to in his earlier career. I did he did do some with Roosevelt, though, of course. Johnson, took advantage of the rift between Garner and Roosevelt. I just described to get closer to Roosevelt. I won't get into all of that. But there's a similarity here between 1932 with Roosevelt wanting to embark on a huge legislative program, bringing in the current speaker of the house and John f Kennedy promising a major legislative thrust, major big government initiative bringing in the majority leader of the senate, the senate leader, to be his vice president. And Garner and, Johnson knew each other. One of the calls Johnson made was, to, Garner the night he decided to take the vice presidency. And, folks, so I don't know if you know this or not, but the vice presidency has been described. And you can see this all over you on the Internet or if you're familiar with American history to some degree, political history. The most apt, the most colorful description of a vice presidency of The United States is it's a warm pitcher of spit. Some quotes say a warm bucket of spit. Well, guess who guess who made that quote? That is a quotation of John Nance Garner, a man who was talked out of a very powerful position as the speaker of the house to be Roosevelt's toady, to be Roosevelt's vice president, to have to do whatever Roosevelt wanted or else not do anything if he couldn't do what Roosevelt or didn't wanna do what Roosevelt wanted and did did not have near the power that he had as speaker of the house. And so forevermore, from the time he made that statement in the nineteen forties, I believe, one of the descriptions of the American vice presidency is it's a warm pitcher of spit. And so Johnson is now now going to accept that warm pitcher of spit described by his former colleague from South Texas, John Nance Garner. But before we get to the presidency of John f Kennedy, where Johnson will now be the vice president, will be majorly a second fiddle at best in the Kennedy administration, just as Garner described his time with Roosevelt. They have to win the election, folks, and they had kind of a close call on that one because Nixon, he did not really have Eisenhower support, but he was in a extremely popular presidential administration, and Nixon is one hell of a candidate. He's not photogenic like Kennedy, but he's sharp as a razor. And even in the debates that Kennedy had with Nixon, the people who watch on television all said, oh, Kennedy won. Kennedy looks so great. Kennedy beat Nixon. But people who listen to those debates on the radio, a majority of them said Nixon won on substance because he was very substantive. So it was a very close election, plus Kennedy's a Catholic, and the Nixon forces toward the end got pretty shameless on the anti Catholic message and moving that message into the South and threatening, the South. It's already threatened because civil rights is becoming a major issue of the Democrat party. It's being threatened because, Nixon courted Martin Luther King and the civil rights leaders of that time of the nineteen fifties for three or four years and thought he had them all on his side. Because most blacks, blacks almost voted entirely, mostly, for the Republicans, although they strayed there with Roosevelt. It's complicated. But anyhow, many Democrats, we will say, many re blacks, we shall say, voted Republican, up until 1960. Even in that election, 30% did. But just before the election so Kennedy's got Johnson run around to the South. Kennedy is not saying anything about civil rights really. He's trying to be very cagey about it once he gets the nomination because he had to say some things about it to get the nomination. But once he gets a nomination, Kennedy's not saying too much more. But just before the election, Kennedy sends a message to Coretta Scott King, Martin Luther King's wife. He's in jail. He's on one of his protests, and he gets thrown in jail. And Kennedy signals, I'm with you. I'm with you all the way, and calls credit card king and gets Bobby to call the judge in the case to get Martin Luther King released from jail. And the word gets out in the black community. It spreads like wildfire. And this is a little bit simplistic, but it is generally, as all generalizations are, it's kinda how we understand the general situation. There ends up to be a big swing of the black vote, almost 70% for Kennedy in this very close election, which helps him in the big cities in the North, but the word's also getting out in the South what's going on, where there aren't that many blacks registered to vote. And, they're basically very conservative white Democrats voting. So this is sticky. They just won South Carolina by 9,000 votes, but there's two states. Folks, two states would have flipped the election, to Nixon from Kennedy if they had not won them. One was Illinois, where Sam Giancana tells us the mob won Chicago for Kennedy, ballots floating in the river, all kind of, evil thinking wrongdoing going on in Chicago for Kennedy, where and in Illinois, he only won by just a few thousand votes, and then there was Texas. Where Nixon wasn't quite as close, but Nixon got within 46,000 votes by the official tally, but there was major major vote fraud going on all through the South, part of Texas. The whole Hispanic area, Rio Grande Valley, bordering counties, political machine, the George Parr machine in Duval County. I mentioned Parr in the last episode. He was involved with Box 13 that helped Lyndon Johnson win his senate race in 1948, and many people believe. I mean, there were so many precincts where there were more votes than registered voters, where a lot of dead people rose to the occasion where there was irregularities all over because this is endemic. And this ties back to John Nance Garner who was, from that area, who was from Uvalde where the big mass shooting was a few years ago right on the border, I think, of Texas and Mexico. That's where Garner was from. And he set up a humongous vote fraud machine through that whole region, and Johnson was able to capture it over time. And so Johnson has everything to do with Kennedy's victory and getting southern votes, but not in quite the way that, was visualized probably when he was put on the ticket. So Kennedy wins. Johnson is now a very unhappy very soon, a very unhappy vice president with not a lot to do, and Johnson makes a couple moves. He's always trying to make moves. So he makes a move to try to get an executive order put through to slip this by the Kennedy people, giving him general supervision, quote, unquote, as the vice president overall of national security. Well, the Kennedy's they weren't going for that. They didn't go for that one. But, and, you know, he made a couple of other moves that way. He he wanted to have his office moved into the White House. That's not where the vice president has his office. Kennedy said no to that. But, you know, they did try to keep Johnson busy. They put him on the commission for equal employment opportunity, which gave Johnson a chance to interact with these civil rights leaders and to interact with a very powerful figure who I did a whole episode on named Walter Reuther, who was the godfather of many, many bad things in this country that come from the left. And we'll be talking more about Walter Reuther when we get to the great society, Because this is what Luther's about, is this big thrust of government, whether it comes from Kennedy or whether it comes from Johnson. But Luther was a Kennedy loyalist, helped get Kennedy elected. I talk about all those things in my Kennedy episodes. Won't go over them again here. But what Johnson did not do, unlike John Nance Garner, I mean, they had the depression with Roosevelt. Some people said, oh, the people are so panicked about the depression. All these conservative Democrats, a lot of Republicans, they all just fell into line behind the New Deal because of the depression. But others say, no. No. No. No. Wait a minute. Not so fast. Garner had a lot of influence over, particularly these southern potentates that are elected over and over and over again, particularly in the senate, but also in the house. He was from the house. And that he had a lot to do with the new deal legislation passing. But what did not happen in the early nineteen sixties with Lyndon Johnson as vice president of The United States was a lot of Kennedy's legislation getting passed. It was not getting passed, folks. That's why I said, in earlier episodes, Kennedy was a failure. He was a failure that also had a whole lot of problems. And, we're gonna talk a whole we're gonna talk more about those problems in a minute. But Johnson was totally vulnerable to pressure from the globalist, but they didn't need to pressure Johnson. Johnson wanted power. He had this unlimited, deep hunger for power, and, of course, ultimately, it comes from our corporate masters, from the people who set up the Fabian strategy in this country, the large banking interest, the largest business interest, the Rockefellers, the JP Morgan and Company, the Rothschilds, Jacob Schiff, Coon Loeb and company, the Warburgs, the people around the Federal Reserve. These are the real powers, folks. And, their influence and and their desires were met to the t at every turn by Lyndon Baines Johnson, and he's, now as vice president, very close to moving himself in a position to even be more useful to our corporate masters. I wanna remind you that at securevote.news, you can get the latest in election integrity news, folks, and you might have heard we got an election coming up. So go to securevote.news and see what we've got there for you, a lot of resources for activists in particular. So we're gonna continue our story of Lyndon Johnson, get into a little darkness here with him, right after the news. You're listening to Hour of Decision on Liberty News Radio. Speaker 0: Second half of the Hour of Decision with Lou Moore starts right now. Speaker 1: Welcome back to Hour of Decision. My name is Lou Moore. We've been talking about dark deeds, or we will be very shortly. A warm pitcher of spit and your death in Dallas. So Lyndon Johnson is now vice president of The United States. He doesn't like it very well, but he's also worried. He's got J Edgar Hoover kind of on his side. J Edgar Hoover hates the Kennedys, and the Kennedys have some vulnerabilities. Namely, Jack's womanizing and, Bobby's cover up of Jack's terrible health, which I go into detail on those issues in my Kennedy all my various in my Kennedy episodes. But Johnson's, Johnson's got a few issues of his own. And, one of them is, there's a man out there named Billy Solestis. He's one of these guys that sell you a bag of ice at the North Pole. Smooth operator. Flim Flam, man. Big talker. Totally a crook. And, it appears that history is recorded that, he was in business with Lyndon Johnson. And at one time, he was getting millions of dollars from the Department of Agriculture for cotton that he wasn't growing and that didn't exist. Oh, isn't that interesting? You know, we talked about the New Deal program, for agriculture. They pay guys not to grow crops and things like that, but this is kinda ridiculous in its scale. And that's just one of the many activities of Billy Solestis. But according to an affidavit that mister Solestis brought forth to the public many years later in 1984, years after the Johnson administration through his attorney Douglas Caddy, he sent a letter to the Department of Justice. And in it, he stated that he was part of a, four member group in Texas that included a man named Clifton c Carter, a stone cold killer named Malcolm Mack Wallace, and a fellow by the name of Lyndon Baines Johnson. And he said that they were responsible, this group, with, the trigger man being Wallace, certainly not being Johnson, for, the deaths of several individuals. We're gonna talk about two or three of these individuals. Henry Marshall, George Kreutelek, Harold Orr, Ike Rogers, and his secretary, Coleman Wade, Josepha Johnson, who happens to be the sister of Lyndon Johnson, John Kinzer, who happened to be the boyfriend of the sister of Lyndon Johnson, and president John Fitzgerald Kennedy. This is in this affidavit. Estes had also testified before a Texas grand jury earlier that year, claiming Johnson ordered Marshall's murder to cover up the fraud ties that Johnson had with Solestes. None of these claims were ever proven, and, of course, establishment types and apologies for Lyndon Johnson said, Sol Estes was a liar. But one of these murders, folks, was that of Henry Marshall, who was a department of agriculture investigator in 1961 at the time where Johnson is now, in some ways under more scrutiny because he's the vice president of The United States one heartbeat from the Oval Office. And he's digging into this situation where, like, where's the cotton? Where's the cotton? And the relationships, between the favors that Johnson did in Washington DC and, this very lucrative situation, fraudulent situation with Billy Solestis. And he was sniffing around so close to Johnson that the story goes that Johnson ordered, mister Wallace, Mack Wallace, to, quote, get rid of him, unquote. Now you can say, well, you know, that's a hearsay story or whatever, but what's kind of interesting is is this Henry Johnson, died with five twenty two caliber bullets in his side. Five. It was ruled a suicide. In one of those counties very friendly to let where law enforcement, the coroner, the judges, were all very closely tied politically to Lyndon Baines Johnson. But then we come all all the way to 1985, a year after mister Solestis made this affidavit long after Lyndon Johnson's dead. And I'm just gonna read you, United Press International, 08/14/1985. Nineteen sixty one suicide ruling changed to homicide. A government official who died twenty four years ago was a victim of murder, not suicide. A state judge has ruled in a case sparked by allegations former Lyndon b Johnson former president Lyndon b Johnson as vice president ordered the killing. Tuesday ruling by judge Peter Lowry changed the official cause of death on the death certificate of Henry Marshall, a US Department of Agriculture worker found dead in 1961. Lauer issued the order after hearing two days of testimony, including that of a Texas ranger who investigated Marshall's death. So you go to Grok or you go to one of these more official sources and they say, oh, boy. People just say that's a lie. No, folks. This is a cover up. This was a cover up. The Texas Rangers investigated it in 1961 and thought it was a murder, and they thought the perpetrator was Mack Wallace. Close known associate of Lyndon Baines Johnson that one year before Billy Soulless is named in an affidavit as the hitman for this group of four intriguers that killed various people among all the other things they did to cover up all the other things they did. When he died, Marshall was investigating the convoluted business dealings of Texas swindler, Billy Solestis, who was later convicted and is and served a prison sentence for fraud. Interesting. Kind of interesting. So Lyndon had, and this is, this isn't the only murder that you're like, what the hell? So John Kinzer was the boyfriend of Johnson's alcoholic, extremely promiscuous, big mouth, and knowledgeable sister, Josepha Johnson. And he was talking and telling a bunch of people down at the golf club about a lot of different things with Lyndon and some of the other boys. And at one point, there's, Mack Wallace. This is established, folks. He walks in to this room. People are there's witnesses. He pumps five twenty five shells into, mister Kinzer who dies. He's charged with murder because there's so many witnesses. He went right in and just killed this guy. The jury wants to give he's convicted. I mean, my god. He killed this guy right in front of a bunch of people. The jury wants to give him the death penalty, but the judge gives him a five year suspended sentence for murder in South Texas. And before too long, there's also a mysterious death of Josepha Johnson in 1961 when Johnson's doing a little cleanup operation. It appears. It appears. So when people ask, would Lyndon Johnson be capable of killing John f Kennedy? In my opinion, hell, yes. He would be. That doesn't mean he did it, quote, unquote. We're gonna talk about that a little bit down the road and not in this episode, but in this series, for sure, we will. But this is unbelievable. These two murders, unbelievable. And there's shifty details around some of these other murders, including Johnson's sister. Murder and confessed confessed it as a sworn affidavit by one of the conspirators, not perpetrators, but conspirators, Billy Solestis. So Johnson, as I told you, was very close to a fixer. The guy became his fixer by the name of Bobby Baker. He was a page in the senate, and Johnson had heard when he was running for a senate in 1948 that this guy knows where all the bodies are buried. He's just a kid. He's absolutely incredible. He's got a mind like a steel trap. He ingratiates himself with all these senators. He knows all kinds of things. And so Johnson wants to talk to him more than anyone else when he first gets to Washington DC. As I told you in the last episode, he had two questions. Who is the most influential member of the, Democrat caucus that I need to get close to, and where are the bodies buried essentially? In the US senate. And over time, Bobby Baker became Johnson's fixer, became Johnson's intelligence agency as far as the United States senate, and it went beyond that. And Bobby Baker folks, I mean, he was absolutely incredible. Up to his eyeballs with the Jewish mob, up to his eyeballs, the an indirect link between Johnson and Meyer Lansky between the big time mob and Lyndon Baines Johnson without any doubt. The man who was running that conveyor belt I mentioned in the last episode, Baker was that man running that conveyor belt of a continual flow of bribes. Smaller relatively small, but bribes, many of them tangible items that were flowing into Lyndon Johnson or flowing into his, clarified it, radio and television station serving the Austin, Texas market. He was up to his eyeballs. But, anyway, in the nineteen sixties, Baker got a little greedy. And, he took a vending machine guy for a ride, took a bunch of money for him as a consultant, and then maneuvered to get this guy kicked out of here. He was in some defense plant with vending machines, fed federal angle to it indirectly and ended up, he he collected money from this guy, but then the business ended up going to his buddies, Baker's Buddies, who own Serv U, which had, vending machines all over in various, federal government contractor locations. And, that's when the watch and then so in 1963, Washington Post ran a brief inside item on a civil suit that Ralph Hill's capital vending company had filed against Bobby Baker two days earlier. It alleged that Baker took 5,600 in fees to land a vending contract at a Virginia defense plant and then used his influence to cancel it, his influence with Lyndon Johnson and and other people in the senate, and steered the business to his own Serv U corporation. That story was the first, and I'm quoting Grock here, was the first real public notice of the vending machine dealings. A trade journal called Vend had already flagged Serv U's rapid growth in its September issue, but the post piece is what put Baker's name in front of the wider press and kicked off scrutiny in the United States Senate. And, see, this was a mob, mobbed up outfit to Serviu, and Lyndon Johnson knows it. And I don't know that Johnson was directly connected to this or getting any money from it, but he sure is hell. They'd not like to see Bobby Baker's name in the Washington Post and rumors of a senate investigation. And this is in 1963, and by now, he's already getting the word that Bobby Kennedy is out to get Lyndon Johnson and make sure that he is not on the ticket again in 1964. So a little bit more illumination about Bobby Baker. This is also from Grock. Bobby Baker, Johnson's longtime senate secretary and so called one hundred and first senator, had clear business links to organized crime figures. He partnered with mob connected men like Ed Levinson and Benny Singelbaum Segelbaum on vending machines. That includes the Serv U vending machines. A Maryland motel, which was called, this is parenthetically on my part, folks, a carousel Motel, where there is a whole bevy of hookers waiting for the guests at the Carousel Motel who are all high rollers and influential people steered there by Bobby Baker and by the mob. And then, there was the casino interest in the Dominican Republic. And these figures that, Bobby Baker was working with close ties to Meyer Lansky, Sam Giancana, and Jimmy Hoffa's Teamsters. And, Meyer Lansky, we're at the top, folks. We're at the top of both the mob the mob organized crime in America and also getting to the top of the Zionist operations, the the, dark side of Zionist operations in America. We'll get back to that part later. So, this is why Johnson doesn't want people sniffing around Bobby Baker. But there's a race now. There's a race that is start that is now well, it's been underway, but it's gonna it's going full bore now because I mean, this is a story I can't even believe myself, folks. But John f Kennedy. Lyndon Johnson was a womanizer, but Lyndon Johnson liked influential women. He would kinda fall in love with a lot of them. He would it it would be ongoing even if there was more than one of them, which there was. Or then they were like a secretary or somebody that worked for him or somebody in his orbit. Those were his, sexual partners outside of his marriage, with Lady Bird. And we'll get into a little bit more detail, not a lot, but a little bit more detail later. But I wanna get to the point here, which is that, John f Kennedy's womanizing was every day, get me a woman. He had staffers scouring the streets of Washington DC looking for women to have sex with JFK. He didn't care if they were an escort. He didn't care about that. And this is one of the reasons he got in so much trouble. I mean, a family member who was in the CIA during the time of Kennedy's administration, he was overseas and he was hearing about the compromises to American security that JFK was causing with his incredibly reckless womanizing. It was unbelievable. It was off the charts, and Johnson knew it. J. Edgar Hoover knew it, and Johnson knew it. And Johnson knew a lot of specifics about one of the worst cases because the Kennedy people went to Bobby Baker to get a woman for JFK named Ellen Romich, who turned out to be an East German spy. And she turned out to be a big hot potato because she'd had sex with a lot of US senators, and Bobby Kennedy had to whisk her out in a military cargo jet in the middle of the night with a whole sack full of cash by her side. This is a fact. And, Ellen Romich, I talk about her at length in the JFK episode, but there's a race going on because the the press is covering for JFK, but there's about ready to be stories breaking about probably this woman, Romich, but about the Capitol Hill Club, which is another one of Bobby Baker's operations right at Capitol Hill where he's got call girls for US senators. So it's bad for Johnson, but yet it's bad for Kennedy as well. So there's a race between whether, Kennedy will be exposed with this Ellen Romich affair, which is connected to the Profumo affair, which nearly brought down the British government because of all the sexual activities of highly, placed Brits. And, with Ellen Romich and, you know, whether that will be revealed before more things come out and come to light about Lyndon Johnson. And Bobby Kennedy is working feverishly to have more things come to life. I'm gonna now read you a passage from this book, the dark side of Camelot, about Kennedy, but it has a lot to do about Johnson. This is Seymour Hersh. Two brutal ironies on 11/22/1963. And I, this is in one of my Kennedy episodes, but I'm rereading it. It started out as a great day for Bobby Kennedy and a potentially ruinous one for vice president Lyndon Johnson. At 10:00 in the morning, Donald Reynolds, a Washington insurance broker, walked with his lawyer into a small hearing room on Capitol Hill and began providing the minority counsel of the senate rules committee, a Republican, with eagerly awaited evidence of unreported gift giving to Johnson. This is this conveyor belt of bribes. Van Kirk had learned about Reynolds independently, but he and Bobby Kennedy had been secretly working together for weeks through intermediaries to accumulate evidence of payola against Johnson and Bobby Baker. And, he claimed to have funneled, cash off the books to Baker. This was an insurance executive who was testifying. That's Donald Reynolds. They were subsequently written off as business expenses. Reynold told of making payoffs that Democratic Party officials arranged through Baker's office in the Senate in, in return for being allowed to handle insurance for, various federal projects. And I'm you're gonna run out of time if I read this whole thing, but the long and short of it is, the the they told, I think, Walter Jenkins call one of Johnson's staffers called this rentals and said, oh, and by the way, you have to buy advertising on mister Johnson's television station in Austin, Texas. This guy is an insurance agent in Maryland and Washington, DC. He has no business down in Texas, but he's keeping all the receipts. And they also told they also told him that Bobby Baker had given Lady Bird Johnson a catalog of various items and that she had picked a very expensive television and stereo set, a big Magnavox set worth thousands of dollars at that time, that he had to buy the Johnson family through intermediaries to, in order to get this federal contract for insurance. But he's saving all the receipts, and he's now talking. There's just one problem. It's 11/22/1963. A secretary burst in to the committee room. This is sworn testimony, folks, he's giving, and announces that JFK has been killed in Dallas, and that's it. The investigation's over with because he's now the president of The United States. But he was down there in Texas with JFK, and they were cooking this up. They had a big cover story coming in, I think it was Life Magazine the following week about Johnson, and they were closing in on Johnson, the Kennedy operation. But at the same time, people that evidently Lyndon Johnson had some acquaintance with, and we're gonna explore how much acquaintance he may have had with them, had other ideas for JFK. So it was a race, and JFK lost. Lyndon Johnson could have had his whole career ruined. His whole career ruined just with this episode alone, not to mention any of the things that might have come up through the mafia connections to the vending machine company that Bobby Baker had. But none of that, you know, that didn't come out as far as Johnson. None of these other things came out into the national limelight, and Lyndon Johnson, becomes the thirty seventh president of The United States Of America. My name is Lou Moore, and you are listening to Hour of Decision on Liberty News Radio, and I will talk to you again next week.