[00:00:09] Welcome to the Kate Dalley Show. Informing the vast populace that in the year of our Lord, 2025, there will be no eating of cats. Carry on. The show starts now.
[00:00:22] I love that clip. Mom gets nothing clip from Saturday Night Live. Anyway, welcome back. And I know I have that voice. I'm so sorry. I can't imagine how it sounds. But yes, $2 hooker voice, 900 voice. What can I say? Here we go. And I have Melissa with me. I'm so glad Melissa's here. And big thank you to Susan in the last hour. Melissa's with me in this hour. Hi, Melissa.
[00:01:25] Melissa. Yeah, we sound like we're in the sick ward around here, don't we?
[00:01:29] I know. And it's my voice. And you guys know if you've been listening to me for a long time, I get usually an attack on the voice every year. And I had one a couple of months ago. And now here it is again. So I just got to keep I got to stop talking. I wanted to mention two things breaking news. Number one, gruesome in California. That little robot.
[00:01:53] He actually declared a statewide emergency over H5N1 for a couple of cows down in Southern California. Statewide emergency. So it is now beginning. And we warned about this for two solid months. I had Karen Kingston on and James Roguski both saying they were about to do this probably a week before Christmas, Christmas week or the week after.
[00:02:16] And that they would start rolling the states into states of emergency for H5N1 as they go to cull our food supply. That's what they're doing. And I'm sorry. It's they're going to they're going to threaten that it can go to people.
[00:02:31] But truly, that would take a feat of the bird literally pooping in your mouth or your eye as your head is pointed upwards towards the heavens looking at drones that are supposed to be mysterious. So there you go. Yeah, it's impossible. But okay. And the bird would have to be infected with something. Okay, so there's that. I also wanted to mention this, but I have to play this while I say this real quick.
[00:02:54] Okay, so. Oh, whoops, wrong one. Sorry. So I have to play this. The speaker of the House Johnson would like to once again tell you that this Christmas time that they are fearing, I mean, fearing a government shutdown for the billionth time right at Christmas time and that he just doesn't know what he's going to do. He fears he can't sleep at night. He has awkward moments of blank stares.
[00:03:23] Because he thinks that the government won't be funded in time for Christmas. And of course, this is going to have to happen, I think by the 20th. And what are they going to do? I am fretting. I am so I'm so on edge. I'm on the edge of my seat. What do you think is going to happen people? What do you think Melissa as I'm playing the clown music? What do you think? Do you think they're going to get the money? I'm on the edge of my seat. It's like a it's like a movie. We just don't know the ending. But yet it's like a Hallmark movie where we know every ending.
[00:03:53] What's your thought? Wait, I missed something. Has your voice cut out on my end? OK, so just give me a quick recap. Yeah. Johnson is fearing again that we're going to have a government shutdown because he can't get the money.
[00:04:07] And I know that we've been through this. Let's see, 14 times on the air and I am on the edge of my seat because I don't know how the movie is going to end.
[00:04:14] But it feels more like a Hallmark where I do know the ending. And so therefore, I'm not afraid when I go to sleep at night that the government will continue to be funded.
[00:04:24] It's just so grotesque at this point. Here's what I think.
[00:04:28] I think if I step back and take a look at the big picture, there's a lot of, you know, the little the little the little poop emoji.
[00:04:41] A lot of that stuff is being thrown at the wall just ahead of Trump taking office.
[00:04:46] Well, he had throwing everything they can.
[00:04:48] The picture with the article looked like he was very scared.
[00:04:52] So I just want people to relay that scared look in his eyes that he truly doesn't know what's going to happen next.
[00:05:00] So there we go. And government continues to get funded.
[00:05:03] Yep. And then I also want to mention that Trump keeps talking about Canada because we mentioned Trudeau in the last hour as Trudeau resigning as the 51st state.
[00:05:13] And I just want you guys to know that we are moving ever so close to adopting Mexico and Canada in that treaty.
[00:05:23] When Trump was in office, we passed that treaty that allowed us to be pretty much moving in the direction of all one territory, the North American treaty.
[00:05:32] And that would put that would put Mexico and Canada in our lap.
[00:05:36] So just maybe thinking that that Trudeau move might be something that facilitates us taking on more of Canada as our territory.
[00:05:46] Well, you know, it's kind of hard to wish Trudeau any longer on the Canadian people.
[00:05:52] Castro. Yeah, I know.
[00:05:54] Yeah, sure looks a lot like Castro Castro.
[00:05:56] Well, when his mother had the affair, remember?
[00:05:58] So right about the time that he was conceived.
[00:06:00] So, yeah. And by the way, I mean, Canada is not the only place having problems in the world either.
[00:06:06] Yeah. Germany's rocky.
[00:06:09] I think the UK is in a bad, bad place.
[00:06:13] I mean, it's happening everywhere.
[00:06:16] So I don't know.
[00:06:18] I've just decided to take kind of the you're going to think I'm a crackpot now.
[00:06:22] I've decided to take the Maya view of time.
[00:06:26] This is cyclical.
[00:06:27] It goes around and around and around in circles.
[00:06:30] Some are big circles.
[00:06:32] Some are little circles.
[00:06:33] But it's always just turning in the same circle.
[00:06:37] History is a big circle and it just goes around and around and around.
[00:06:41] And I think that's we're seeing some of that.
[00:06:44] Yeah.
[00:06:45] OK, I don't know.
[00:06:47] Let's talk phase two.
[00:06:48] You talked about phages last time and I knew there had to be some more to that.
[00:06:53] Do you want to go there?
[00:06:53] Yeah, I do, because I've just been thinking about phages for all week.
[00:06:58] Yeah.
[00:06:59] I think phages, Kate, might have helped your voice.
[00:07:02] Phages for sure would have helped my lungs.
[00:07:06] But I want to start out in a different kind of place because I want to talk about some bacteria stuff.
[00:07:11] OK.
[00:07:11] And this is a really cool and probably little known story, unless you're a Civil War wonk.
[00:07:17] But there during the Battle of Shiloh or the aftermath of the Battle of Shiloh, we'll say.
[00:07:23] So Shiloh was fought in April of 1862 in Tennessee, right on the Tennessee, Alabama border.
[00:07:33] And there were lots of wounded, lots of wounded, 23,000 casualties at the end.
[00:07:42] And some of those guys laid in the mud and muck for days while they waited for assistance.
[00:07:49] Some of them began to notice after a while of laying in the mud that their injuries, their wounds began to glow a greenish blue color.
[00:08:02] What?
[00:08:03] And they called it, the soldiers called it Angel Glow.
[00:08:07] Oh, weird.
[00:08:07] Yeah.
[00:08:08] OK.
[00:08:09] And Angel Glow was, they began to notice that the soldiers that had Angel Glow, some of them recovered a little better, a little faster with cleaner wounds than people that didn't get Angel Glow.
[00:08:25] That is so weird.
[00:08:27] OK.
[00:08:28] Yeah.
[00:08:28] It was luminous, luminescent.
[00:08:31] It actually gave off light in that kind of blue-green color.
[00:08:36] Their wound, where their wound was, it glowed.
[00:08:40] So they call it the bacterium that saved the Civil War soldiers?
[00:08:44] They don't because they didn't know it was a bacterium.
[00:08:47] They didn't know what it was.
[00:08:49] And it was not until 2001 when some high school students in Indiana did some research.
[00:09:00] Like, I take it it was kind of like a science fair thing.
[00:09:03] Like, hey, what do you think that was?
[00:09:05] And one of the boys had a mom who was a microbiologist.
[00:09:08] And they decided to take a look.
[00:09:11] What caused the bioluminescence of, you know, what caused Angel Glow?
[00:09:17] Because no one had ever accounted for it.
[00:09:20] The best explanation that has ever come out was that there was these guys that laid in the mud.
[00:09:30] This is going to be gross because, you know, medical things are always gross.
[00:09:34] There were nematodes in the dirt.
[00:09:38] Okay.
[00:09:39] And the nematodes had a bacteria in them that was bioluminescent called photorhabdus luminescence.
[00:09:49] And these, they lived in the digestive tracts of parasitic nematodes.
[00:09:56] And then when the bacteria would enter the wound, they would release this bioluminescent enzyme or whatever it was,
[00:10:08] which helped to kill the nematode but caused the glow.
[00:10:14] What?
[00:10:15] Okay.
[00:10:15] Isn't that a crazy story?
[00:10:16] Yeah, it's really crazy.
[00:10:20] So, they're still not 100% certain because there's nobody to test.
[00:10:26] That is the, they know that those nematodes live in that place.
[00:10:30] They know that those bacteria live in those nematodes.
[00:10:33] And they know that those soldiers were there and all that could have happened.
[00:10:36] But there's no 100% proof of that.
[00:10:39] Well, I actually would think, yeah, this goes right along with what we know.
[00:10:43] Because if it helps us, the government wouldn't want to do any kind of research on it or bring it to light.
[00:10:49] So, just like the cancer cures and just like everything else.
[00:10:52] So, that actually makes sense to me.
[00:10:55] This is sort of buried, right?
[00:10:56] We don't really talk about it.
[00:10:58] It never comes up, right?
[00:10:59] And so, of course, it's buried.
[00:11:02] Yeah.
[00:11:03] Okay.
[00:11:03] Makes sense.
[00:11:04] Makes sense.
[00:11:04] Well, I want you to keep in mind that in 1862, this is before germ theory.
[00:11:10] Mm-hmm.
[00:11:12] Soldiers in the Civil War were getting their arms and legs amputated with unwashed, unsterile instruments.
[00:11:19] Right.
[00:11:20] And another one of my absolute all-time favorite Civil War stories has to do with the U.S. Army, the U.S. side, the Union side.
[00:11:34] They were stitching soldiers up and they used whatever silk, surgical silk, to stitch people up with.
[00:11:42] And after so many amputations, they ran out of surgical silk.
[00:11:46] And the next best thing they could think of to use was horse hair.
[00:11:51] Oh, wow.
[00:11:52] So they cut horse hair off the tails and manes of horses and boiled it to clean it up and used it to stitch soldiers up.
[00:12:03] And one of the things that they began to notice was that those soldiers that were stitched up with horse hair healed, their injuries healed cleaner than those who had been stitched with surgical silk.
[00:12:15] So this tells you a lot about the science of the day.
[00:12:18] Right.
[00:12:19] They launched an investigation into the curative properties of horse hair.
[00:12:23] Mm-hmm.
[00:12:25] What was the real story?
[00:12:26] I've already told you the real story.
[00:12:28] Right.
[00:12:29] Oh.
[00:12:29] They were boiling the horse hair.
[00:12:32] Exactly.
[00:12:33] Right?
[00:12:33] I love it.
[00:12:34] Yes, yes.
[00:12:35] Okay.
[00:12:36] But, which they didn't do with surgical silk because it was already clean.
[00:12:40] We don't need to clean that, right?
[00:12:41] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:12:41] Because they don't have any knowledge.
[00:12:43] This is before germ theory.
[00:12:45] Okay.
[00:12:45] We'll be right back.
[00:12:46] More with Midwest Melissa when I come back.
[00:12:48] Be right back.
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[00:16:44] OK, so I know I'm losing my voice back here with Melissa.
[00:16:49] Midwest Melissa.
[00:16:50] OK, let's keep going.
[00:16:51] Yeah.
[00:16:52] So I want to kind of kind of change gears a little bit because when we talk about bacteriophages, we really need they are classified as a virus.
[00:17:04] So we need to kind of at least for me.
[00:17:07] I needed to kind of take a minute.
[00:17:09] What is a virus?
[00:17:11] And the really the place to start.
[00:17:14] To talk about viruses.
[00:17:16] And I know there's a lot of viruses.
[00:17:19] Are viruses even a thing?
[00:17:20] Are they real?
[00:17:22] Are they?
[00:17:23] They are certainly used.
[00:17:24] They are widely used to scare us all the pieces.
[00:17:28] We've got avian flu virus right now and it's going to be used to scare us.
[00:17:33] I looked up on chat GPT and it told me that viruses are all toxic.
[00:17:40] Mm hmm.
[00:17:41] But they're not.
[00:17:42] We talked about phages, which are similar kinds of things and they are not toxic.
[00:17:48] They are actually toxic to the bacteria that cause illness.
[00:17:52] I'm one of those that thinks that it was made up.
[00:17:54] It was made up by Simon Flexner in 1905 because he had to put bacteria.
[00:17:58] He said it was invisible.
[00:17:59] And then he had to put bacteria in the dish so he could show you what the virus looked like.
[00:18:05] But he could never show the virus on its own.
[00:18:07] And so let's talk about that.
[00:18:09] OK.
[00:18:09] So here's what, according to the scientific stuff that you can read about, viruses have no cell structure, which is a key.
[00:18:23] So the question we're going to ask ourselves is, are viruses even a living thing?
[00:18:28] Are they alive?
[00:18:28] What the heck are they?
[00:18:31] Um, viruses have no cell structure.
[00:18:35] They have no nucleus.
[00:18:38] They are essentially a little chunk of DNA that is, that has a protein coat called a capsid that surrounds it.
[00:18:50] And they do absolutely nothing until they interact with a bacteria.
[00:18:57] You're correct.
[00:18:58] Mm-hmm.
[00:18:59] That they do nothing.
[00:19:01] They have no ability to replicate on their own.
[00:19:06] They are, in essence, they have to operate in a parasitic sort of way.
[00:19:11] Mm-hmm.
[00:19:14] And they need a host that they have to invade a host to replicate themselves.
[00:19:22] To create more of their own thing, they have to have a host to live in.
[00:19:28] Okay.
[00:19:29] The other thing that's kind of, what they do is the host's replication machinery to make copies of themselves.
[00:19:43] So viruses contain genetic material as either DNA or RNA.
[00:19:49] And they can also, when they encounter something in that bacteria that is advantageous to them, they will take it for themselves.
[00:20:08] Okay.
[00:20:09] Okay.
[00:20:10] So as-
[00:20:10] This is all very strange, right?
[00:20:12] It's very exciting.
[00:20:13] As a debate, because I know we're going to go to break soon.
[00:20:15] But as a debate, I would say that they used the term virus.
[00:20:19] Simon Flexner coined it for the Rockefellers, that they're the ones that paid him to coin it as virus so that they could start the whole contagion lie.
[00:20:28] And then, of course, virus, smallpox is a virus.
[00:20:32] Polio is a virus.
[00:20:33] It was the way that they could conduct a vaccine program and use the lie of virus to build up the vaccine program so that we'd all buy into it.
[00:20:42] Otherwise, we would just go, oh, use penicillin, which we couldn't do.
[00:20:46] So it had to be their shots that they were trying to sell.
[00:20:49] But when I come back, I want you to go on the other side of that debate, and we'll debate, because I think this is a really good debate.
[00:20:55] I think it's a really healthy debate, because there's a lot said about virus.
[00:21:00] But Simon Flexner was very busy in 1905, coining that term.
[00:21:04] But be right back.
[00:21:05] Kate Daly Show.
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[00:21:27] If we make it through December, things gonna be all right.
[00:21:38] It's the coldest time of winter.
[00:21:42] I forgot I'm surprised we don't have snowpocalypse now.
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[00:21:54] Welcome back to the show.
[00:21:55] I am losing my voice, and I'm with Melissa.
[00:21:58] And so glad that you're here, because this is a really fascinating debate.
[00:22:02] And I know that I have every government-trained doctor mad at me when I say I don't believe in virus, because Simon Flexner was paid by the Rockefellers with standard oil money to come up with the virus lie so that they could start public health.
[00:22:20] Public health came right after virus.
[00:22:23] And they said it was invisible.
[00:22:25] And so then everyone said, yeah, at the time, we're not buying that.
[00:22:28] You can't tell us something's invisible.
[00:22:30] So they added monkey feces and brain matter to it and all kinds of bacteria.
[00:22:36] And then they said, see, now you can see it.
[00:22:38] But really what people were seeing was bacteria.
[00:22:40] And a lot of people said, no, we believe it.
[00:22:44] We believe that this is a new thing.
[00:22:46] And so I believe that it was put into place to sell a shot program, not just a shot, but the whole program that came about in the 50s because of polio.
[00:22:58] But polio came to us from DDT spraying.
[00:23:00] So it was all toxin.
[00:23:02] But they had to say it was a virus because if you said it was toxin, then we would know that we were getting poisoned.
[00:23:10] So because we had arsenic and then we had DDT spraying.
[00:23:14] So they had to go with virus.
[00:23:16] And this is why Flexner was put up to it.
[00:23:18] Now, I do believe that the visuals that we see of a virus are all CGI'd.
[00:23:24] Okay.
[00:23:25] But I've done big speeches on this.
[00:23:28] I've had everybody ticked off at me.
[00:23:30] I've gone through the whole gamut.
[00:23:32] I've done a tremendous amount of research.
[00:23:34] But I'm always open, too, because could I be wrong?
[00:23:38] Sure.
[00:23:40] But I want you to be able to come in.
[00:23:43] By the way, Simon Flexner, he was like a Fauci.
[00:23:46] He was the first director of the Rockefeller Institute of Medicine.
[00:23:50] Okay.
[00:23:51] And then, of course, public health came in because if you could have a contagion.
[00:23:54] And at the time, doctors were saying, things aren't contagious like that, though.
[00:23:59] Your immune system has to be really down.
[00:24:02] It has to be a bacteria transfer in order to get sick.
[00:24:04] But they tried to say, no, no, no, you need to mask up.
[00:24:07] No, no, no.
[00:24:07] It's contagious.
[00:24:08] And so with the 1918 flu and stuff is when they really tried to spin it.
[00:24:13] So what's your take, Melissa?
[00:24:15] Because I always love the other side.
[00:24:18] Well, I'm not sure I'm as far on the other side as you think I am.
[00:24:21] Okay.
[00:24:22] Because I'll tell you this.
[00:24:23] Okay.
[00:24:24] This is my take on it.
[00:24:25] Sure.
[00:24:26] We're going to not call them a virus.
[00:24:28] Okay.
[00:24:28] We're going to call it a biological entity.
[00:24:32] Okay.
[00:24:32] There is a biological entity out there in the world that is so tiny, genuinely tiny.
[00:24:42] It is the size of just a fractured tiny part of DNA or RNA that's wrapped up in a, like I said, in a protein capsid.
[00:24:55] Okay.
[00:24:55] Okay.
[00:24:56] That thing has potential and whatever that DNA is, is very specific in its interaction with a bacteria or a cell or whatever.
[00:25:10] Mm-hmm.
[00:25:11] So I think what we call viruses have absolutely been exploited by conniving and conspiring people to sell us a load of nonsense.
[00:25:23] Mm-hmm.
[00:25:24] Right?
[00:25:24] Right.
[00:25:25] Because, you know, we never let a crisis go to waste.
[00:25:28] Mm-hmm.
[00:25:30] So if there, and the reason I say that is because in reading about bacteriophages, bacteriophages, the current thinking about viruses is they just bring us illness and disease.
[00:25:44] Mm-hmm.
[00:25:45] Well, bacteriophages don't do that.
[00:25:48] Right.
[00:25:49] Some are good.
[00:25:49] Yeah.
[00:25:50] Some are good.
[00:25:51] Some of them live inside of us all the time.
[00:25:53] Right.
[00:25:53] And only become, you know, it's like they're inert.
[00:25:57] They're sleeping until, oh, wait, hey, here's a bacteria that I might like to interact with.
[00:26:04] And now they become awake and alert.
[00:26:08] Mm-hmm.
[00:26:09] Is, and that can be for good or ill.
[00:26:13] Right?
[00:26:14] Right.
[00:26:14] You know, if in the presence of certain, like I was telling you last week about the doctor Durrell.
[00:26:23] Mm-hmm.
[00:26:24] He treated plague, plague victims, bubonic plague victims with bacteriophages.
[00:26:31] Mm-hmm.
[00:26:33] So what do you make of that?
[00:26:36] He treated them with a biological entity that was programmed to, shall we say, they infect the bacteria that's causing the plague and explode it, which ultimately ends up curing the patient.
[00:26:54] Okay.
[00:26:55] So, but it was a bacteria.
[00:26:58] Well, the illness, the illness was a bacteria.
[00:27:03] Mm-hmm.
[00:27:04] The cure was the introduction of some DNA material that caused the bacteria to no longer be able to do its bad thing.
[00:27:19] Okay.
[00:27:21] Okay.
[00:27:21] So could that have been a toxin?
[00:27:23] What, could what have been a toxin?
[00:27:25] The bacteriophage?
[00:27:26] The thing, the thing that was put into this equation.
[00:27:31] Is not a toxin to the person.
[00:27:34] Mm-hmm.
[00:27:34] It's a toxin to the bacteria.
[00:27:36] Okay.
[00:27:37] Okay.
[00:27:38] So keep going.
[00:27:39] So you want to call them, and see, if you remember, the word bacteriophage means bacteria eater.
[00:27:45] Okay.
[00:27:46] If it would make you happy to call them bacteria eaters, we can call them that.
[00:27:50] Okay.
[00:27:51] And are they good or are they bad?
[00:27:53] Mm-hmm.
[00:27:54] It depends on the situation and the bacteria we're talking about.
[00:27:59] Mm-hmm.
[00:27:59] If we introduce something into ourselves that made us sicker because it caused our own body cells to do things that they would not normally do, then that would be a bad thing.
[00:28:18] Like a bad bacteria, a toxin, or a parasite.
[00:28:21] Well, let me ask you this, and I think this is a really legit question.
[00:28:26] Sure.
[00:28:27] When we talk about the mRNA vaccine that was injected into us, were we actually injecting a bacteria, not a bacterial, but a biological entity that was a little string of genetic material?
[00:28:45] In this case, it was mRNA.
[00:28:47] Right.
[00:28:47] That interacted with our body cells in ways that were bad for us.
[00:28:53] Yeah.
[00:28:54] For sure.
[00:28:54] That would make the vaccine that they injected us with a virus itself.
[00:28:59] Could be or could be a toxin, bacteria, or parasite.
[00:29:03] I don't think we were.
[00:29:05] We were injected with DNA material.
[00:29:08] Right.
[00:29:08] We were not injected with a bacteria.
[00:29:10] Right.
[00:29:11] Because a bacteria would have had a nucleus and all that other stuff that actual cells have.
[00:29:16] And these things do not have that.
[00:29:19] But they are, and that's why I said it.
[00:29:22] But that's why I wouldn't rush to virus.
[00:29:24] Whether they're alive or not is important here.
[00:29:26] Mm-hmm.
[00:29:26] So I wouldn't rush to virus as the culprit.
[00:29:30] I would rush to DNA changing, mRNA altering gene.
[00:29:36] And I wouldn't call it therapy.
[00:29:38] I would call it damage.
[00:29:40] Well, you can call it that.
[00:29:42] Right.
[00:29:43] Absolutely.
[00:29:43] I would.
[00:29:44] That's what I said.
[00:29:45] I've said that from the beginning of this conversation.
[00:29:47] Yes, yes, yes.
[00:29:48] Even last week.
[00:29:49] Right, right.
[00:29:50] If somebody has labeled something, and it's entirely possible that Flexner labeled this
[00:29:56] virus just to give it an easy handle to exploit it with.
[00:30:02] But I do not believe that those little bits of DNA in a capsid coat that can cause cells to
[00:30:13] behave in ways that they do not ordinarily behave for good or bad.
[00:30:18] Right.
[00:30:19] I don't believe they're not imaginary, even if Flexner couldn't see them.
[00:30:25] Right.
[00:30:26] And in fact, the guy that Durrell that was doing that early work at about the same time
[00:30:31] as Flexner, he's looking at what he sees in an auger plate, a colony of bacteria.
[00:30:39] And then he sees what he calls plaques on that bacterial colony, places where there is
[00:30:47] no more bacteria.
[00:30:48] And he said, what ate that bacteria?
[00:30:51] What made that bacteria go away?
[00:30:53] Okay.
[00:30:54] All right.
[00:30:54] And he concluded, and he was able through.
[00:30:57] We got to go to break.
[00:30:58] Sure.
[00:30:59] Okay.
[00:30:59] We're going to go to break.
[00:31:00] We'll be right back.
[00:31:01] More with Midwest Melissa.
[00:31:02] Intriguing conversation.
[00:31:04] I love it.
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[00:32:01] So I just posted it before the show.
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[00:32:08] So I just wanted to say that a lot of eyewitnesses on the ground are noticing that the drones are flying over dairies.
[00:32:17] I'm in Utah.
[00:32:18] And I had a friend reach out and tell me just on the last break that they were noticing drones over dairies up in Utah, up in the northern part of the state.
[00:32:30] So they also noticed them in California where they just did the H5N1 thing, the state of emergency.
[00:32:38] They just issued that today on H5N1.
[00:32:41] It's all a lie, you guys.
[00:32:42] But people have seen mist coming out of the drones.
[00:32:45] If that's the case, are they dropping something on the food supply to convince the farmers that the cows and the chickens are sick?
[00:32:55] So keep that in the back of your mind because California's seen them and Utah and having them fly over dairies is a really strange occurrence.
[00:33:07] So kind of just keep that in the back of your mind for some drone truth possibly.
[00:33:12] All right, Midwest Melissa, back here with you.
[00:33:14] I'm sorry, Kate.
[00:33:15] I have to dispute this with you.
[00:33:16] Sure.
[00:33:17] The FBI told me that these are perfectly normal and they are nothing to be alarmed about.
[00:33:21] So please, you're scaring me now.
[00:33:23] Who's the fear monger now?
[00:33:24] Right.
[00:33:25] They made sure they were FCC compliant.
[00:33:28] That's right.
[00:33:29] They turn their lights off if you shine a laser at them.
[00:33:31] We don't know one thing about them.
[00:33:32] Okay.
[00:33:33] I know.
[00:33:34] We're all believing it, right?
[00:33:35] Nope.
[00:33:35] So what a lie.
[00:33:37] So, you know, H5N1, could it be for that reason?
[00:33:41] Very possibly yes, because they want to make H5N1 a state of emergency in every state, even though it's not.
[00:33:49] It's a lie.
[00:33:50] But okay.
[00:33:51] So, okay.
[00:33:52] Go forward, Melissa.
[00:33:53] Okay.
[00:33:54] So I was just about to unravel how Felix Terrell, a French microbiologist, came to the conclusion.
[00:34:01] He didn't know what they were either.
[00:34:03] He couldn't see them either, but he knew that something was happening.
[00:34:06] So I told you, he grew bacterial cultures on an auger plate and then began to notice.
[00:34:14] Actually, what happened was he forgot his auger plate.
[00:34:16] So when he came back after a couple of days, he noticed that there were these plaques, these blank places on the plate where it looked like the bacteria had disappeared.
[00:34:27] There was no more bacteria.
[00:34:29] So he took a pipette.
[00:34:31] So he took a pipette and he pulled some of whatever was at the plaque out and recultured it.
[00:34:37] Okay.
[00:34:38] Okay.
[00:34:39] And then he noticed that when he did that, it would always, whatever was there would always eat the bacteria.
[00:34:46] So he was just like, okay, something weird is going on here.
[00:34:49] So he ran, he ran, he took the, the, what he was pulling off those auger plates, put it in like a nutrient broth and tried to culture it.
[00:35:01] And then ran it through a filter and he did several different experiments.
[00:35:06] He ran it through a filter, but a special kind of filter called a Chamberlain filter, which was known to filter bacteria.
[00:35:13] And the fluid is the fluid filtered through.
[00:35:16] He got, when he would culture the fluid that came through there, it grew no bacteria, but the fluid that he got out of that would continue to kill bacteria in other plates.
[00:35:30] So he knew that, that something was coming through there that was actually killing the bacteria.
[00:35:36] And that's what he called bacteriophage because he said, these are bacteria eaters.
[00:35:42] I don't know what they are, but something in this is killing bacteria.
[00:35:45] And when he would take that stuff that he knew could kill bacteria and when he would boil it, it no longer had that property.
[00:35:56] Okay.
[00:35:57] So he said, these things are heat sensitive.
[00:36:00] They, they can't survive like sterilization.
[00:36:05] So he, he concluded they were some kind of, like I said, a biological entity.
[00:36:11] That's where bacteriophages came from.
[00:36:14] And that's what his interest in them was, was he found this something that he didn't know what it was that could kill bacteria.
[00:36:23] And there were other people that attacked him for this and said, he's full of nonsense.
[00:36:30] We don't believe him.
[00:36:31] He even went to war with a Nobel prize winner winning microbiologist who was just like, you're full of nonsense.
[00:36:39] Mm-hmm.
[00:36:40] This is why he, Felix Durell himself ended up in the, well, yeah, it was in Stalin's Soviet Russia because they were receptive to the science.
[00:36:53] They said, we want to know if there's something here that will kill bacteria, we want it.
[00:36:58] We want it here.
[00:36:59] And they were very worried by that time.
[00:37:02] They were very concerned about cholera epidemic outbreaks during World War II.
[00:37:09] And they were using bacteriophages to treat cholera.
[00:37:15] And they could treat it even by dumping a vial of bacteriophage into a well.
[00:37:22] Okay.
[00:37:23] And it would make the well resistant to cholera.
[00:37:27] Okay.
[00:37:28] So there was something there doing something.
[00:37:30] You bet.
[00:37:31] Right?
[00:37:31] Sure.
[00:37:32] When they, when they, they, the untreated wells could get contaminated by cholera, which comes from unsanitary conditions.
[00:37:42] But the well next to it, which was treated with bacteriophage would still remain clean.
[00:37:47] And so he concluded that whatever he was percolating through those filters was the thing.
[00:37:55] And this is really horrific, but where do we get phages from?
[00:37:59] They take phages, they get raw sewage to culture them.
[00:38:04] Because phages live inside all of us.
[00:38:08] And when someone gets sick with cholera and they survive, they have phages now to contribute.
[00:38:17] Yeah.
[00:38:17] So the first phages that they were culturing were coming from World War II or World War I soldiers that had survived cholera.
[00:38:25] They would culture, you know, their excrement and grow the bacteria and then look for those plaques and culture that.
[00:38:38] Okay.
[00:38:39] So I don't know.
[00:38:41] You can, you can take it any way you want.
[00:38:43] But if I, I, I'm perfectly happy calling them biological entities.
[00:38:47] I'm happy calling them bacteriophages.
[00:38:49] Sure.
[00:38:51] Interesting.
[00:38:51] Some bacteria, bacteriophages for sure have, have good uses.
[00:38:56] And I just pulled a list of all of the different things that they are very interested in using bacteriophages to treat now.
[00:39:06] I told you this is a, this, as we go into a time where antibiotic resistance and superbugs becomes more important, this bacteriophages are going to, could be major players.
[00:39:20] So they're using them now.
[00:39:23] And in fact, I just heard that there's some interest in, in putting them on like gauze bandages.
[00:39:30] Right.
[00:39:32] They treat MRSA.
[00:39:33] They treat UTIs.
[00:39:34] They treat all kinds of things.
[00:39:36] Thank you, Midwest Melissa.
[00:39:38] I really appreciate that.
[00:39:39] Thank you so much.
[00:39:40] Good discussion, by the way.
[00:39:42] And also, look at, look at Mengele and look at why he studied twins in the Nazi camps too.
[00:39:51] It's a big question you guys should study.
[00:39:54] Be right back.
[00:39:54] Kate Daly Show.
[00:39:55] Thank you.