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[00:00:31] Oh yeah, and there's one other thing I'll say tomorrow because I say it every day of my life. God bless America.
[00:00:40] A little John Wayne for you. Welcome back to the 3rd Hour and back with you with Ron Gibson as promised.
[00:00:50] And so he'll be answering your questions. I'm sure you have a lot of questions about land patent and we're so happy to do this.
[00:00:56] I'm happy that Ron came back for this hour so that you can really understand where we're at right now.
[00:01:03] And he is a wealth of information when it comes to history. This is all he studies. This is all he's about.
[00:01:08] And I just love the fact that he's willing to educate people on it to tell you the truth. Welcome back, Ron.
[00:01:13] Thank you very kindly. Proud to be here.
[00:01:15] You bet. All right. So, boy, where are we gonna start?
[00:01:19] Well, take your calls. 888-673-1450. 888-673-1450.
[00:01:28] Okay. So, we're all sitting on this property that we think we truly own.
[00:01:34] What's underneath. And I even had somebody with the whole drone thing going on right now say, how much airspace do we get with our property?
[00:01:41] So, I thought that was an interesting question. How far up does it go? Because we're always talking about how far down it goes.
[00:01:46] But I'll tell you what. We have this. If you're just joining us just now, Ron talks about land patents because in the 1940s they stopped automatically.
[00:01:57] Didn't they up to that point automatically give you the land patent and then they stopped giving the land patent and they give you a warranty deed instead?
[00:02:04] No, they didn't stop the issuance of the patent.
[00:02:07] But when you took, see, the requirement of the patent law is that you had to do certain things to apply for the patent once a patent was issued.
[00:02:17] Then you had to record it. And the only reason they started that is that without recording it, they were having people over file on the same property trying to get a patent because they didn't know where the boundaries were.
[00:02:29] So, by recording your boundaries, then it isn't. But it really wasn't required in the sense of law, but it was required for the purpose to try to subdue the conflict between two people claiming the same land.
[00:02:46] I see.
[00:02:47] But the patents weren't stopped until 1994 by an act by Bruce Babbitt and he had no lawful authority to do it.
[00:02:59] In fact, if you go to the Federal Land Policy Management Act, better known as FLIPMA, and you look that up, you go to page roughly 75 to 81, you'll find that Congress could not eliminate the right to issue patents or for people to apply, but they stopped it by an appropriations bill.
[00:03:25] But you'll find in there that the mining act was not withdrawn, nor the Homestead Act was not withdrawn.
[00:03:34] And one of the things about the mining thing, it's tied to national security under Title 30, just like the mining is, but it's only 1801 to 1811.
[00:03:43] So national security is dependent upon supply of raw minerals and processed minerals, et cetera, et cetera.
[00:03:52] So even though in many cases they were issued under the same document, that being the patent.
[00:03:58] Okay.
[00:03:58] We have a caller for you.
[00:04:00] Go ahead, caller.
[00:04:00] You're on with Ron Gibson.
[00:04:03] Thank you.
[00:04:04] I have two questions, actually.
[00:04:07] Can a piece of property that's in an LLC be land patented?
[00:04:13] And how do you manage to quit paying the taxes?
[00:04:18] We had a piece of property that we did a land patent on, and we never could seem to not pay the property taxes.
[00:04:27] Okay.
[00:04:28] And when we went to sell it, they wouldn't sell it without, it couldn't be bought.
[00:04:34] Okay.
[00:04:35] Without getting rid of the land patent.
[00:04:37] Okay.
[00:04:38] Great questions.
[00:04:38] Go ahead.
[00:04:39] The LLC question first.
[00:04:40] Can you have it in an LLC and get a land patent?
[00:04:43] I did not understand her first question.
[00:04:46] Can you have it, can you have the piece of property in an LLC and still get a land patent?
[00:04:51] No, you cannot.
[00:04:52] That's a very good question, and thank you for asking that.
[00:04:56] Land patents, the only exception to any kind of company or other than an individual to receive a patent was the Railroad Act.
[00:05:06] But other than that, you have to do a quick claim deed from your LLC to your name or your names, plural, whoever is doing it, to bring it forward.
[00:05:16] Because that's the individuals, the ones that's issued from the original patent.
[00:05:21] And then you can put it in an LLC?
[00:05:24] Then you can put it back in an LLC.
[00:05:27] Okay.
[00:05:27] Good question.
[00:05:28] So, and then, of course, the property tax question.
[00:05:32] Okay.
[00:05:33] The only real way to stop the taxes is that, number one, I have three tax templates that I make available for people who have me do their land patent form.
[00:05:46] Otherwise, I charge $50 for them.
[00:05:49] But nevertheless, these are templates.
[00:05:52] And what it is, the first one is a template that is an offer to pay contingent upon them providing constitutional authority to assess an ad valorem tax.
[00:06:04] And there is no provision constitutionally.
[00:06:07] I'm a constitutional lawyer, and I've researched this stuff for the last 51 years.
[00:06:12] The second document is a notice of default with an offer to cure.
[00:06:17] That's a 10-day notice.
[00:06:20] If they don't respond constitutionally according to your demand, then you send what's called a notice of tacit agreement.
[00:06:27] They don't want to honor that because they know that they have no lawful means of which to assess it.
[00:06:35] So what we have found is successful, very successful, is you sue the individuals in their private capacity.
[00:06:43] And then a second suit sues the county of which is trying in and through their representative agents to assess and collect taxes.
[00:06:53] Now, let me take this a step further.
[00:06:56] There's an element in law under the Constitution, excuse me, of Article I, Section 10, Clause 1.
[00:07:04] And down in that document just a little bit, it states, and I quote,
[00:07:12] No state can legislate a bill of attainder or an ex post facto law, nor can they impair the obligation of contract.
[00:07:23] The patent is a forever contract, says right on the document.
[00:07:29] But getting back to the property taxes, paying that, not paying that, and selling the property.
[00:07:42] And they made it impossible for her to sell the property without catching up on that.
[00:07:46] Yeah, because there's no lawful authority of which to do that.
[00:07:52] But they're doing it anyway.
[00:07:53] And I'm really interested in what you guys are going to say Tuesday.
[00:07:57] That's why I'd like to talk to him and kind of compare notes.
[00:08:01] But I address this issue in my book, and I prove that you're not obligated to pay taxes.
[00:08:07] But to answer your question, to get back to that, you have to sue them.
[00:08:11] Because they cannot take on the risk of losing their bond.
[00:08:18] And if they don't do what they do, then you file on their bond, and they're out.
[00:08:23] They're out of a job.
[00:08:24] They're out of any government employee forever.
[00:08:27] And that scares them to death.
[00:08:30] Ah, interesting.
[00:08:31] Okay, all right.
[00:08:33] Okay, we have a caller for you.
[00:08:34] Go ahead, caller.
[00:08:37] Yes, thank you, Kate.
[00:08:38] Thank you, Joe.
[00:08:39] It's so important, the work you're doing.
[00:08:41] I have also done this type of work probably since 1980.
[00:08:47] I've been interested in these issues.
[00:08:50] Being a gold miner from Alaska, growing up in Los Angeles, out in the desert.
[00:08:54] I lived in the Mojave Desert.
[00:08:56] I saw them closing the trails down, dedicated trails, 100 years old.
[00:09:00] They put up red ribbon signs saying no motorized vehicles, no handicap.
[00:09:04] This is our Department of Interior taking our land.
[00:09:07] And California Coastal Commission is supposed to protect our coastline.
[00:09:11] Go look at the coast.
[00:09:13] It's building from one end to the other.
[00:09:15] It's ruined.
[00:09:17] Look at what Clive and Bundy was fighting to keep his land so Harry Reid wouldn't steal his land to give it to the...
[00:09:24] And look what came out about that, caller.
[00:09:26] What came out about that later was that Nevada doesn't even own that land.
[00:09:29] And that's why they allowed the Bundys to go free, because they didn't want that coming out in court.
[00:09:35] Nevada doesn't own it.
[00:09:37] No, that's federal land.
[00:09:39] That's open-range land.
[00:09:40] The only people that have right to use the land are gold miners.
[00:09:44] You can go out right now and stake a claim.
[00:09:47] Put your post down.
[00:09:48] I've staked thousands of claims.
[00:09:50] I'm an expert.
[00:09:51] We have ongoing mines now above the Arctic Circle.
[00:09:54] But anyway, you can put your claim down out in the desert.
[00:09:57] You have a discovery first.
[00:09:59] You can get your claim.
[00:10:00] Anybody could go out and get the land.
[00:10:02] What they're doing is taking the land.
[00:10:04] Like, I don't know where...
[00:10:07] I've got so much on my mind.
[00:10:09] The 4,700 Joshua trees, they just tore down before they told us they were building a solar plant.
[00:10:14] Ask Brady.
[00:10:15] Brady told me about it.
[00:10:16] Here, I'm Solar Mike.
[00:10:18] I fought Solar Millennium and Ridgecrest out by China Lake.
[00:10:21] It took me two years to shut down Solar Millennium.
[00:10:24] They were going to wipe out eight square miles of primeval desert land, put up parabolic solar mirrors,
[00:10:30] which are actually a directed energy beam.
[00:10:34] They are heating up the atmosphere.
[00:10:35] People don't realize this.
[00:10:37] I fought them and fought them and fought them.
[00:10:39] And finally, the Navy shut them down, said the heat plume coming off the mirrors,
[00:10:43] they were right in the cruise missile test range pathway from the Pacific Ocean,
[00:10:49] where they shoot them off the carrier, all the way to China Lake, and they test them.
[00:10:53] Well, they tried to put mirrors there.
[00:10:55] These Germans, they were going to steal all the power.
[00:10:57] Nothing was going to go to L.A. grid.
[00:11:01] Anyway.
[00:11:01] So do you have a question?
[00:11:03] Did you have a quick question for Ron?
[00:11:07] Yes.
[00:11:09] A quick question for Ron is, how do we stop these Nazi environmentalists from wiping out our desert,
[00:11:18] like the bogus Desert SR-71 Conservation Act, so they could give it away?
[00:11:23] Go look at the desert.
[00:11:24] You're going to get sick of what they're doing.
[00:11:27] It's disgusting.
[00:11:29] It's mirrors from one end to the other.
[00:11:30] How do we stop them?
[00:11:31] How do we stop these idiots from wiping out the wind turbines?
[00:11:35] Right.
[00:11:35] Are chopping up our birds, our national mascots.
[00:11:38] Do you know how much ground it takes to put a stinking wind turbine in?
[00:11:42] Do you know how much fuel it takes to gear lube, to run one of those?
[00:11:46] They're worthless.
[00:11:47] I went by the Lancaster Tehashby Wind Farm once when the flags were blowing horizontal with 40-mile-an-hour steady guns.
[00:11:54] But every turbine, thousands of them were breaked.
[00:11:58] They stopped them.
[00:11:59] Let me turn this over to Ron just to give a quick answer before we go to break.
[00:12:03] Thank you so much for the call.
[00:12:04] Go ahead, Ron.
[00:12:05] Yeah, well, the answer to that is that people have to put pressure on our legislative people to nullify the environmental laws.
[00:12:18] The environmental laws, every one of them were set up by, and I'll call it the black hats, I'll call it the globalists, whatever you want to term.
[00:12:28] It was for the purpose of starving the people off the land so that they could use it for their own purpose.
[00:12:35] We have the spotted owl up in my country here in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Northern California.
[00:12:41] There was nothing having to do with the spotted owl being in danger.
[00:12:47] We're going to come right back more with Ron Gibson.
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[00:16:17] Okay.
[00:16:17] So, we do have a caller for you, Ron.
[00:16:19] Go ahead, caller.
[00:16:23] Ron, have you ever seen the movie Flower Moon?
[00:16:26] Are you familiar with that movie what it's about?
[00:16:28] Okay.
[00:16:29] Flower Moon.
[00:16:29] What was the movie again?
[00:16:30] Flower Moon.
[00:16:32] No, I have not.
[00:16:34] The killing of the Flower Moon.
[00:16:35] It had to do with the Native Americans.
[00:16:37] I believe the Creek Indians in Northwest Oklahoma or Southeastern Kansas.
[00:16:43] But, anyway, the government had to recognize they were the title holders to the land, and they were holders of the title to the minerals.
[00:16:52] And so, they got the oil.
[00:16:54] When the oil was located there in the early 1900s, they were the benefactors.
[00:16:59] And then, of course, they went about trying to steal their rights to the oil.
[00:17:02] But, effectively, there was a recognition at that time that they owned the minerals as well as the land.
[00:17:07] Fast forward to 2022.
[00:17:09] The Supreme Court ruled in the McGirt case that the Cherokee Nation still is the eastern half of the state of Oklahoma.
[00:17:18] And so, the fellow that was convicted, this guy is no longer on death row because of that, though the feds might pick up the case.
[00:17:25] Don't know about that.
[00:17:26] But, the Supreme Court recognized the treaty ownership, the recognition history ownership of the Native Americans.
[00:17:34] Now, in Utah, where Kate is and where you're at in Oregon, you had the Utes and you had the Nez Pears.
[00:17:42] And I believe there's still a treaty that recognizes they could remain separate and apart, as in West Tennessee, where I met,
[00:17:49] where the treaty of 1817, the Jacksonville Men Treaty, recognized the Cherokee rights to remain.
[00:17:56] They want you to leave, but if you don't, you'll be separate and apart and assert your rights.
[00:18:01] And so, with those titles that have already been recognized by the Supreme Court, would a Native American, like myself,
[00:18:08] be able to assert the treaty rights that I fall under and declare, I am separate and apart.
[00:18:15] This is my land.
[00:18:16] No taxes collected.
[00:18:18] No anything else.
[00:18:20] Would that effectively negate the aloidal title, or would that basically preserve what was, which is always the aloidal title?
[00:18:32] Well, you're right.
[00:18:33] And it is an aloidal title.
[00:18:35] And the answer to your question is, yes, you have a right to claim it.
[00:18:38] But, see, the problem that we have and what we're discussing here today is that we have crooked people in office and in government that won't honor it.
[00:18:49] But I'm very familiar with the case you're talking about.
[00:18:52] That started out as a criminal case.
[00:18:55] But the guy challenged it on jurisdictional basis, and the Supreme Court said, you're right.
[00:19:01] The federal government didn't have jurisdiction to bring the case forward.
[00:19:05] That's the point I'm talking about, about jurisdiction.
[00:19:08] And you're absolutely right.
[00:19:10] That's what happened in that case.
[00:19:12] In that case, it didn't but a couple years old.
[00:19:14] Go ahead, caller.
[00:19:15] Right.
[00:19:16] So if you've got an avenue to go directly to the Supreme Court, which is like Article III, Section II stuff, which I do,
[00:19:24] then I could go straight to the original source, the Supreme Court, and get them to recognize what is.
[00:19:31] And then I could function as I should and stop all these lower courts from impeding my path.
[00:19:38] Also, as an ordained Native American minister, adopted and ordained by the great-grandson of the Ness Pierce Chief Joseph,
[00:19:47] which you guys are probably familiar with,
[00:19:50] I could adopt anybody into my clan, and they could become separate and apart equally.
[00:19:57] And according to Judge Joseph, or John Roberts in the Gettles case, no blood quantum is required.
[00:20:05] Interesting.
[00:20:06] That's correct.
[00:20:07] Okay.
[00:20:07] Well, thank you.
[00:20:08] Thanks for the call.
[00:20:10] There's some interesting things that we just do not understand and know about, right?
[00:20:14] They've kept them very concealed in this country, yes?
[00:20:17] That's right.
[00:20:18] Holy cow.
[00:20:19] Okay.
[00:20:20] We're going to come back with Ron.
[00:20:21] I've noticed that counties like mine, my county did this, where they preemptively, even without the EPA asking,
[00:20:28] took a turtle out of California and put it here and gave it land, gave it territory,
[00:20:35] which I would think is pretty illegal to do, but they did it anyway and sanctioned land for this turtle that wasn't even from here,
[00:20:44] wasn't even native to here.
[00:20:45] But they did it even before the EPA made them.
[00:20:48] You see that in counties all across America.
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[00:23:36] Yeah.
[00:23:36] Hello, Ron.
[00:23:37] Yeah.
[00:23:37] I own a number of pieces of property.
[00:23:43] But one's in a trust.
[00:23:44] Is it possible to get a land patent and defy paying the taxes if the property's in the name of a trust?
[00:23:54] No.
[00:23:55] And it's not.
[00:23:57] You have to bring it forward in your flesh and blood name.
[00:24:02] And then we're back to what we shared earlier.
[00:24:05] You've got to sue them to get the taxes taken off the tax roll.
[00:24:10] Okay.
[00:24:11] So it has to be in the name of the flesh and blood man.
[00:24:14] Yeah.
[00:24:14] That's correct.
[00:24:15] Quick claim.
[00:24:16] Okay, good.
[00:24:16] So I have your book.
[00:24:18] It's sitting at my desk.
[00:24:18] And I'm going to read it.
[00:24:20] I just finished the project.
[00:24:21] Anyways, thank you for your time, Ron.
[00:24:22] Thank you.
[00:24:23] I appreciate that.
[00:24:24] I appreciate the call.
[00:24:26] Let's take another caller.
[00:24:27] Hi, caller.
[00:24:28] Welcome to the show.
[00:24:29] Go right ahead.
[00:24:31] Yeah.
[00:24:31] Hi, Kate.
[00:24:32] Thanks for taking my call.
[00:24:33] I was going to say I'm out here on the west rim of the Grand Canyon area here in Arizona.
[00:24:39] And I just saw last month where they took about 4,000 Joshua trees in Kern County.
[00:24:46] They just removed them.
[00:24:48] Public wasn't even made aware of it.
[00:24:50] So one of my goals coming up for the next coming year is I want to make the Joshua tree here in Arizona a protected tree.
[00:24:58] And how would I go about that?
[00:25:00] I don't know.
[00:25:01] I don't know.
[00:25:02] I don't even know if Ron.
[00:25:03] Well, you have to do that through legislation.
[00:25:05] So, you know, you'd have to do that through your state legislators.
[00:25:10] Okay.
[00:25:10] We have another caller.
[00:25:11] Go ahead, caller.
[00:25:13] Kate, Mike from Texas.
[00:25:15] Mike from Texas.
[00:25:15] Texas.
[00:25:17] Yes.
[00:25:18] Who is on the other side?
[00:25:20] I want to call it a transaction, I guess.
[00:25:23] I'm assuming it's your tax assessor in your county.
[00:25:26] And more importantly, a bigger question.
[00:25:29] What are judges being hostile to this or are they going along?
[00:25:34] Are you having to educate the judges?
[00:25:36] I'll hang up and let you answer.
[00:25:38] Yeah, let's go through some cases.
[00:25:39] Thank you.
[00:25:40] No, the judges are part of the Bar Association and they're taught in law school for those last 50 years that, in fact, to denounce any property right ownership or constitutional right.
[00:25:54] That's why they changed it in 1946.
[00:25:56] So, the statutes and codes, statutes and codes are not law.
[00:26:00] They're corporate rules and regulations.
[00:26:02] So, here we are.
[00:26:04] We've put up with this stuff.
[00:26:06] If the people would rise up and do a class action suit, we could kick this right in the butt.
[00:26:12] But everybody once is afraid to do anything.
[00:26:14] We better band together, folks.
[00:26:16] I'm telling you.
[00:26:17] We better start doing something forceful.
[00:26:19] And that's the band together number because people have the power.
[00:26:23] The Supreme Court has ruled that the sovereignty lies with the people.
[00:26:30] Sovereign people are not subject to laws.
[00:26:31] They're the creators of law.
[00:26:34] So, you know, it's the old saying that we're kings in our own right, but we're acting like slaves.
[00:26:41] The reason is the other part that I wrote the book.
[00:26:44] We better start acting like kings instead of continuing to accept the slavehood.
[00:26:49] Yeah.
[00:26:50] Tell us about some of the cases, the supporting cases for the patent.
[00:26:57] Well, one of the real famous cases, and I'll start there, and it has to do with a case in California called Suma versus the State of California Coastal Commission.
[00:27:07] It's a 1984 case.
[00:27:10] And in that case, the state tried to come and to literally steal Suma's lagoon lands from West Los Angeles all the way to the ocean's edge.
[00:27:20] And so it ended up in court.
[00:27:24] And the Superior Court of California ruled against Suma.
[00:27:26] So they appealed it to the Appeals Court of California.
[00:27:29] They ruled against him.
[00:27:30] To the State Supreme Court, they ruled against him.
[00:27:33] So they filed it in federal district court.
[00:27:36] They ruled against him.
[00:27:37] So they filed then to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
[00:27:40] They ruled against him.
[00:27:42] So it ended up where it should have started in the United States Supreme Court because it's a patent.
[00:27:47] They're the only Article III court.
[00:27:49] But in that ruling from the court is fascinating.
[00:27:53] They told the state in that first thing they said, this is settled law.
[00:28:00] Now, you don't hear that very much, but that's kind of in-court language, if you please.
[00:28:05] But what they were telling the state, that patent is the same as it was initiated.
[00:28:10] It's continued through today, and it's going to continue to be through forever because that's what it says on the patent.
[00:28:18] They said the second thing that they told the state in that ruling, that this is a land patent.
[00:28:24] You have no jurisdiction over this land patent.
[00:28:28] You can't penetrate it.
[00:28:29] You can't alter it.
[00:28:31] You can't delete it.
[00:28:32] Nothing.
[00:28:33] The third thing that they told them, that patents are protected by treaty law.
[00:28:38] That's true across the nation.
[00:28:41] All patents are protected by treaty.
[00:28:44] That's why these judges have no jurisdiction of which to intervene and to rule against that because they don't have any jurisdiction over the treaty.
[00:28:54] The treaty is a protective covenant for that patent.
[00:28:57] It's been that way since day one.
[00:28:59] The next thing they told them is for Suma to have any standing, even bring the case, they would have to be named on the patent.
[00:29:08] And they were never named, and boy, the Supreme Court blistered the state of California on those issues.
[00:29:16] And they flat ruled against them in every aspect of their claim.
[00:29:20] Wow.
[00:29:21] When was this case?
[00:29:23] 1984.
[00:29:25] Wow.
[00:29:25] There's another one called Friends of Martin Beach versus Martin Beach.
[00:29:29] The Friends of Martin Beach is an environmental group trying to accomplish the same thing and force them to give the public public access over and through and on their land.
[00:29:39] And the Supreme Court said that isn't happening.
[00:29:43] You don't have any right to infringe upon private property.
[00:29:47] It's called private property, folks, for a reason.
[00:29:50] And there's no government entity that has the authority, unless you're a criminal activity, of intervening into that private property.
[00:29:59] It's a trespass.
[00:30:02] Jeez Louise.
[00:30:05] It's good to know some of these cases because these are things that can be cited, right, when, obviously, when you're in a courtroom and the judge looks at you like you've got two heads if you're mentioning a land patent and they don't know much about it.
[00:30:18] Katie, if I may mention in my book, for those of you who want to obtain my book, I've got a whole section in the back of court cases that have to do that have won.
[00:30:29] And I might mention something else.
[00:30:31] No court case dealing with a patent has ever been turned down by the United States Supreme Court.
[00:30:39] Interesting.
[00:30:40] For over 190 years, the patent has prevailed.
[00:30:44] You can find all kinds of cases on the lower court level, but they're invalid because they're not a court of competent jurisdiction, as I mentioned to you folks before.
[00:30:54] Right.
[00:30:55] Right.
[00:30:55] The jurisdiction is the key.
[00:30:57] Yes.
[00:30:57] The jurisdiction is the key in every instance.
[00:31:01] Hmm.
[00:31:02] Okay.
[00:31:04] Also, when we come back, well, number one, the end game.
[00:31:07] What is the end game?
[00:31:08] The end game is to get those property taxes so high and get the insurance either so where something isn't insurable anymore, like they started to do in certain places.
[00:31:19] And then, of course, get the insurance so high people can't afford the actual property.
[00:31:24] Right.
[00:31:25] And to get them off of that.
[00:31:26] It's a twofold effort to force you out of your home and property.
[00:31:31] And so we've got that against us, and I think we're going to see way more of this in the next couple of years, obviously.
[00:31:38] And then, of course, you've seen the push by the leftists, and I know that even little criminal Hunter Biden was involved in working with the Native Americans.
[00:31:49] There seems to be this big push.
[00:31:50] In the last Tom Hanks movie, they had these couple of scenes.
[00:31:55] It was a terrible movie called Here.
[00:31:56] I mean, I walked out.
[00:31:57] It was so bad.
[00:31:58] It was just stupid.
[00:31:59] Stupid movie.
[00:32:00] But one of the biggest kind of overall themes was the fact that the land goes back to the Native Americans, who it originated from, and staking a claim for said land, and that you're on land that you don't own even though you are paying for it or think you own.
[00:32:16] So when we come back, I want you to talk about that because we're seeing this leftist push, and it's a very weird push.
[00:32:24] We actually saw them change something from the 1600s that I can bring up as well that I brought up on prior shows.
[00:32:31] But there's just been some weird shifts in things that they're doing right now.
[00:32:36] So we'll be right back, and that pertains to land ownership.
[00:32:40] Be right back.
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[00:33:31] Welcome back, Kate Daly Show.
[00:33:33] Oh, so glad to be with you.
[00:33:35] And, of course, on a Friday.
[00:33:37] And I've got Ron Gibson with me.
[00:33:39] He is the land patent expert.
[00:33:41] And can you tell people how to get your books again?
[00:33:45] They're each $50.
[00:33:46] One is You're Not a Slave.
[00:33:47] The other one is called?
[00:33:50] What You Need to Know About Land Patents.
[00:33:52] Okay.
[00:33:53] And the address?
[00:33:54] They send $50 money order or check or cash to?
[00:33:57] Ron Gibson.
[00:33:58] Ron Gibson.
[00:34:00] Address is 3008 Hartley Lane.
[00:34:05] That's H-A-R-T-L-E-Y Lane.
[00:34:09] Grants Pass.
[00:34:10] Two words.
[00:34:12] Grants with an S on it.
[00:34:15] And that's Grants Pass, Oregon.
[00:34:20] 97527.
[00:34:21] Yeah.
[00:34:22] So thank you for that.
[00:34:23] We're seeing a – and he can also help you with a land patent, too.
[00:34:26] We're seeing a kind of a shift.
[00:34:28] And I feel like the government is using Native Americans for a land grab.
[00:34:33] What is your take?
[00:34:35] That's true.
[00:34:35] What's your take?
[00:34:36] That is true.
[00:34:36] Hmm.
[00:34:38] That's not good.
[00:34:40] That's an understatement.
[00:34:42] So what do you think happens next?
[00:34:47] What do you think happens in these next few years?
[00:34:49] Because, of course, you know, little Klaus-E Schwab telling us we won't own anything but we'll be happy.
[00:34:54] I don't know.
[00:34:55] They're going to drug induce us to be happy for not owning anything?
[00:34:57] Who knows?
[00:34:59] So I'm not quite sure how they get there.
[00:35:03] But I feel like it does involve higher insurance and higher taxes so that people, even in their later years, can't afford to pay any of that, right, in their later years or even earlier years.
[00:35:14] It is one radical way to address the tax issue, but you can't get people to do it.
[00:35:19] But if a large segment of a county would say, we're not paying you any more money.
[00:35:25] Now, number one, they don't need the money.
[00:35:27] I can prove that.
[00:35:29] I'm going to challenge your audience to go to your Internet and you look up your county or your state CAFR account, C-A-F-R, Consolidated Annual Financial Report.
[00:35:41] There is millions and millions of dollars.
[00:35:45] Your tax money does not go to paying roads and schools and all that.
[00:35:50] We've been that.
[00:35:51] Oh, we have to.
[00:35:53] Go ahead.
[00:35:54] Go ahead.
[00:35:54] But I'm just saying that we've been indoctrinated that we have to pay taxes and they can't prove that they have the authority to do it.
[00:36:02] Right.
[00:36:03] But the point of it is they do it so they can control you and it's another form of land grab.
[00:36:09] So same thing with insurance.
[00:36:11] Right.
[00:36:12] They want us to fall.
[00:36:15] Yeah, they surely do.
[00:36:17] 888-673-1450 questions for Ron.
[00:36:20] It's not a hard process.
[00:36:23] It's something to add into the arsenal because I think this is really what the focus is.
[00:36:30] We can be distracted by a million issues.
[00:36:33] But I think the main purpose, like the Conservation Act, the Conservation Act in the bottom of their contract, this was from a decade ago, right?
[00:36:45] Said basically that our land goes to its successor.
[00:36:49] They never did say who the successor was.
[00:36:52] But our land goes to the land in the conservation, it goes to the successor of the United States.
[00:36:58] And that wasn't going to be in perpetuity.
[00:37:00] And they were having people still retain their name on the land.
[00:37:05] But the land goes to the government.
[00:37:07] And then the government gets to dictate what they're going to do on the land, but their name's still on it.
[00:37:12] So it made people feel good about it.
[00:37:14] It was really strange.
[00:37:15] But the contract was even weirder.
[00:37:17] Our land goes to the successor of the United States of America.
[00:37:22] That's exactly right.
[00:37:24] It's another means of land grab.
[00:37:26] Because under those conservation agreements, you're extremely limited, if not totally, from doing anything with the land.
[00:37:36] Right.
[00:37:37] It's just like a wilderness act or whatever.
[00:37:41] All of your acts that Congress has enacted, tying public lands up, is totally unlawful.
[00:37:49] There's no lawful authority to do that.
[00:37:52] In fact, if you read the Wilderness Act on the very first page, it says if the land is more suitable for mineral, then they cannot take it out or do what they call a mineral withdrawal.
[00:38:04] And most of the land that is withdrawn in the nation is valuable in large, large quantities of mineral.
[00:38:13] I did a survey of that for a group that hired me to manage all of their mining operations.
[00:38:19] And I'm telling you, in 1988 alone, the withdrawn lands at that time was larger than 26 of the United States.
[00:38:29] Wow.
[00:38:31] Staggering.
[00:38:32] Very staggering.
[00:38:32] Staggering.
[00:38:33] So what else?
[00:38:35] In the last three minutes of the show, I know this is loaded, but what else do you really want people to take away today?
[00:38:41] What do you want them to truly understand today?
[00:38:44] Well, I hope my primary thing is that they recognize the urgency of what I'm trying to share with them.
[00:38:51] And you're a big part of that to help get the word out.
[00:38:55] The second thing of it is if you think you're safe and this doesn't affect you, you've got your head up where the smoke's at.
[00:39:02] Because they're coming after you're coming after it all, folks.
[00:39:07] So my encouragement to you is get my book, do your land patent thing yourself.
[00:39:12] If you're not feel comfortable doing it, that's a service that I provide.
[00:39:20] But it needs to be done correctly because it's a legal document.
[00:39:23] Right.
[00:39:24] So I encourage people to have me do it.
[00:39:27] Do I charge a little bit for it?
[00:39:29] Yes.
[00:39:29] But I'm not after the money.
[00:39:30] I'm after you to have true title that's not soiled in any fashion.
[00:39:35] I love that.
[00:39:36] And so I'll give you all the help that I possibly can.
[00:39:40] But this stuff's important, folks.
[00:39:42] I think this is great.
[00:39:44] It's an awakening for people because of the fact that most people, probably my age and younger, don't even know that you can have this.
[00:39:54] So you're supposed to have this is really the answer, right?
[00:39:57] And it's your right to have it.
[00:39:59] Yes.
[00:40:00] Yes.
[00:40:01] That's truly the answer.
[00:40:02] So it's not a permission issue.
[00:40:04] It's a right.
[00:40:05] Exactly.
[00:40:06] So I think it's just being aware and understanding and then adding this in because you want to safeguard in every way that we can.
[00:40:14] You know, there's only so much we can so many things we can do right now.
[00:40:17] And that's this.
[00:40:19] I think this is a basic one.
[00:40:20] So thank you so much, Ron Gibson.
[00:40:22] Really appreciate you.
[00:40:24] Thank you.
[00:40:24] Thank you very much.
[00:40:25] I mean, this is what an awesome awareness and understanding.
[00:40:28] We'll take a we'll take a final call.
[00:40:30] Hi, caller.
[00:40:31] Welcome to the show.
[00:40:31] Make it quick.
[00:40:33] Ron, I can't believe the founding fathers would allow something so important as private property to become so muddled.
[00:40:43] Merry Christmas, everyone.
[00:40:44] Well, I mean, our founding fathers never left.
[00:40:48] Did everything they did to protect it.
[00:40:50] Mm hmm.
[00:40:52] Yeah.
[00:40:53] You've got a lot of a lot of nefarious people that are trying even under this even under this sort of cover that that this legality cover that doesn't really exist, but that they stand behind.
[00:41:06] Right.
[00:41:07] Trying to tell everybody a different story.
[00:41:09] So wasn't wasn't the founders not being awake.
[00:41:11] It was the people not being awake and making sure that the bad guys weren't able to do this.
[00:41:17] Yes.
[00:41:18] We just turned everything over to the government.
[00:41:22] We entrusted them without having a knock.
[00:41:25] Hawkeye.
[00:41:27] It's on us.
[00:41:28] Yeah, it's on us.
[00:41:29] I think they did everything they could do.
[00:41:32] So Bible says you reap what you sow.
[00:41:35] Yeah.
[00:41:35] And we're reaping that because we haven't paid attention to what our government is doing.
[00:41:40] Thank you.
[00:41:40] Thank you, Ron Gibson.
[00:41:42] And of course, this will be on podcast.
[00:41:44] Kate Daly radio dot com.
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[00:41:48] Be fearless.
[00:41:48] See you back here on Monday.
[00:41:54] Santa Claus here with a very important message.
[00:41:57] It's time to turn off your outdoor watering.
[00:41:59] Your landscape doesn't need water during the cold winter months.
[00:42:02] I don't want to slip on any icy sidewalks when I come to visit later this month.