[00:00:07] Isn't common sense supposed to be common? The struggle is real, my friends. The Kate Dalley Show starts now.
[00:00:16] You were meant to be here. This is your time. Their time is done. It's over. Screw them. This is your time. Now go out there and take it.
[00:00:38] I love that. Big throwback to that speech by Kurt. I love it. Anyway, Kurt Russell.
[00:00:45] So welcome, Kate Dalley Show. And of course, I've got Mike with me. I've got Michael Schwartz with me, author, radio host, you name it.
[00:00:55] And I can't wait to have him on because his new book, his new book is quite popular right now.
[00:01:02] Let me just tell you. And the book is called Vaccine Fiction. The truth leaks out in small doses, which I absolutely love.
[00:01:11] Welcome to the program, Mike. How are you?
[00:01:13] I'm great, Kate. Thanks for having me.
[00:01:14] You betcha. Boy, we have a lot to talk about in this hour.
[00:01:17] So you also wrote a book called Fauci's Fiction, the book on COVID.
[00:01:22] And boy, I don't even know where to start because there's you've written these two great books in in in very, very back to back.
[00:01:30] The the primary things that you focused on in Fauci's fiction were on Fauci.
[00:01:35] So so bring us from that book into this book, why this book had to come also out on the vaccine fiction.
[00:01:43] Sure. So a common misconception. Fauci's fiction is not about Anthony Fauci.
[00:01:47] It's actually that we were the first company to do COVID tests in the state of New Jersey.
[00:01:51] I was the first guy alone on an island. And it's kind of happenstance how we did it.
[00:01:56] We were the first company because we had done, you know, we did really good medicine before before COVID came out.
[00:02:01] We practiced something called we use respiratory pathogen panels.
[00:02:05] So when someone is sick, we would look for a host of different things, whether it's viral or bacterial or fungal to see what the person had.
[00:02:13] Most doctors don't do that. So we Fauci's fiction is about the 19000 patients, 44000 tests that we did.
[00:02:20] It's all the basics on COVID. It explains everything.
[00:02:23] And contrary to popular belief, it's not about Fauci.
[00:02:26] You get a lot of email because people think it's about him bashing him.
[00:02:29] It really only mentions him three times.
[00:02:31] Vaccine fiction picks up where Fauci's fiction left off.
[00:02:34] At that time, when I released Fauci's fiction, we didn't have enough data on the vaccines.
[00:02:38] So we hypothesized about what we saw early on in Fauci's fiction.
[00:02:42] And vaccine fiction picks up and really delves into what we're seeing now with these adverse events.
[00:02:47] You know, not just our patients anecdotal data.
[00:02:50] We included a lot of information from other professionals, experts.
[00:02:54] We have an immunologist. We have a microbiologist.
[00:02:56] We have an embalmer. So we really kind of look at it from a lot of different angles.
[00:03:00] No, I love this.
[00:03:01] And by the way, Dr. Michael Schwartz, I left that off and I should not have.
[00:03:06] That is very, very important to this conversation.
[00:03:09] Dr. Michael Schwartz, also, I mean, you're doing so much in exposing, exposing, exposing, exposing vaccine fiction.
[00:03:18] How far back does this go?
[00:03:21] Dr. Michael Schwartz, Jr., Ph.D.: Well, it's hard to tell, right?
[00:03:23] So we kind of operated in a vacuum.
[00:03:24] So when we started testing, and just keep in mind, I'm a research doctor, but I own medical clinics.
[00:03:28] So my medical staff, we're out there testing these folks.
[00:03:31] And we're looking at COVID and we're going, wait a minute, this doesn't match what everybody's saying on TV.
[00:03:35] But we knew that so early on.
[00:03:37] In April of 2020, we predicted the mortality rate.
[00:03:39] I had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of tests and patients before anybody really delved into this thing.
[00:03:44] And we're kind of yelling at the TV.
[00:03:46] We're looking at all these experts.
[00:03:47] We're listening to the government narrative.
[00:03:48] And we're going, this doesn't make sense.
[00:03:50] It always took about 12 months to 18 months for the government to catch up to what we were seeing in our offices until what they were saying on TV and the news, the mainstream especially.
[00:04:01] It goes back pretty far.
[00:04:02] You can look at this from a bunch of different angles.
[00:04:05] It depends on how specific you want to get.
[00:04:07] And I don't want to bore your audience with too much science.
[00:04:09] But you have to look at COVID a little bit differently than most people are used to looking at COVID.
[00:04:13] COVID is not just negative or positive.
[00:04:15] You're either negative or you're positive with caveats.
[00:04:18] Our data includes a couple things that most people don't look at.
[00:04:20] So we look at CT value, which is their viral load that's important.
[00:04:24] I have that on all 19,000 patients.
[00:04:26] Keep in mind, the majority of the ones who were sick with COVID had a co-infection.
[00:04:30] You would only know that if you were looking for it.
[00:04:31] So we test everybody again with respiratory pathogen panels.
[00:04:35] So I have co-infection on everybody.
[00:04:36] I also have comorbidity.
[00:04:38] And something else that we did was we called every single positive patient every night to record symptomology.
[00:04:43] So I have all four of those things included in my horizontal data because you've got to understand we weren't just testing and treating sick people.
[00:04:50] We were out doing school districts, police departments.
[00:04:53] We're at nursing homes testing their entire population because it was mandated by the state.
[00:04:57] So I'm testing all these people who are asymptomatic and finding COVID everywhere.
[00:05:02] It was quite interesting to kind of see that in the beginning.
[00:05:05] And then when the vaccines rolled out a year later, that's an entirely different story.
[00:05:10] Yeah.
[00:05:10] And so the COVID, I call it the blovid.
[00:05:13] The blovid is over 90 symptoms, pretty much encapsulating everything.
[00:05:17] And then we had on the White House steps, the government at the time going, oh, yeah, we the flu just ended.
[00:05:25] And so we're just applying COVID to everything.
[00:05:29] What are your thoughts on that?
[00:05:31] Most people weren't looking for the flu.
[00:05:33] We were because we were doing, again, respiratory pathogen panels.
[00:05:36] But you have to have a medical necessity to do that.
[00:05:38] You see, what happens in medicine, if you're sick and you don't have a cough, a fever, a shortness of breath, I can't run a test on you.
[00:05:44] The CARES Act actually changed that during COVID.
[00:05:47] It opened up testing to anybody who wanted it.
[00:05:49] So when you're running COVID-only tests, you're not finding the flu because you're not testing for the flu.
[00:05:54] It's a little different.
[00:05:55] You can only test sick people.
[00:05:56] If you have a medical necessity, that would include a cough, a fever or shortness of breath.
[00:06:00] That would open it up.
[00:06:00] The government did some things that were fishy and most people don't really understand even to this day.
[00:06:05] I explain how the numbers disappeared even with COVID.
[00:06:08] Most people don't understand that.
[00:06:10] The CARES Act did that.
[00:06:10] The rapid test did that.
[00:06:12] Most people don't report a rapid test positive into their county or their state.
[00:06:16] So I can explain how the government made the numbers disappear.
[00:06:19] They also want to point to then the vaccines and say, look, the vaccines made COVID disappear.
[00:06:22] No, they really didn't.
[00:06:23] It was the government narrative that made it go away.
[00:06:25] Yeah, for sure.
[00:06:27] VAERS.
[00:06:28] Speak to VAERS for just a moment.
[00:06:29] I know this audience is probably aware of VAERS by now with all the guests we've had, but VAERS, public awareness.
[00:06:35] Sure.
[00:06:36] Understand VAERS from a practitioner standpoint.
[00:06:38] None of the practitioners I work with ever heard of VAERS until COVID came out.
[00:06:41] Most people do not report anything into VAERS.
[00:06:44] And keep in mind also, and Harvard agrees with me, that only about 1% of what's out there actually makes it into VAERS.
[00:06:51] So if you're looking at government numbers, there's a reason they're so low.
[00:06:54] And when I say low, I mean it's a comparable thing, right?
[00:06:56] Because when I look at them, they kind of blow your mind.
[00:06:58] The charts that I have, and I point at a lot of charts in my book, and I hate to do that to people, but I think a picture is worth 1,000 words.
[00:07:05] When you're looking at 30 years' worth of data into VAERS related to vaccines, and pick a category.
[00:07:10] It could be stillborn births, right?
[00:07:12] Stillborn births related to vaccines.
[00:07:15] Less than 25 a year for 30 years.
[00:07:17] Then you get to the year 2021, and you see 3,500.
[00:07:22] It's kind of astounding to go from zero to that level, and it's on every single category you can go across.
[00:07:27] But VAERS is important because if people are looking for metrics to explain what's out there from the anomalies with these shots,
[00:07:35] they have to understand that most of the numbers, most of the cases never make it into the government database to begin with.
[00:07:41] So I interview a PA in my book who was fired from a hospital system because by law she was supposed to report these numbers into VAERS.
[00:07:48] The hospital system wasn't too happy about that.
[00:07:50] They wanted to play the game with CMS, so they fired her.
[00:07:53] She's got a lawsuit.
[00:07:54] She remains nameless in the book, but she stuck her neck out like a lot of people did to help get the truth out during this pandemic.
[00:08:00] And, of course, you see what happens to people who stick their necks out.
[00:08:04] Well, yeah.
[00:08:05] And, okay, so VAERS is sort of like that was the government's way of saying, see, we're transparent, but it was a facade of transparency
[00:08:14] because really people in the medical industry are never really told to go report there or have it matter in any way.
[00:08:22] So if there's anything good that came out last four years, people are well aware of VAERS now.
[00:08:27] That's good.
[00:08:28] Sure, but don't forget about the cognitive distortion.
[00:08:31] Imagine if you're a patient and you have an adverse effect from a vaccine and you go back to your doctor and say,
[00:08:36] hey, I think this is related to the vaccine.
[00:08:38] The doctor might have been the one who was trying to get you to take that vaccine in the first place.
[00:08:41] So if it's a month later, six months later, they're going, ah, that couldn't be the vaccine.
[00:08:45] Maybe it's something else.
[00:08:46] They probably won't even report it.
[00:08:47] What most people don't know is that you yourself can report into VAERS, but you're going to have to go back and pull all those lot numbers.
[00:08:53] You've got to figure out where you went and got those shots.
[00:08:55] Get your records.
[00:08:56] It takes about a half hour to do it.
[00:08:58] And if you get kicked out, you've got to start the whole process again.
[00:09:00] So for a doctor who's limited on time or a medical personnel in an office like mine who's, you know, we're busy.
[00:09:05] We don't have time to go out and report everything to VAERS.
[00:09:07] Most people don't want to do it.
[00:09:08] Yeah.
[00:09:09] And because they're not really instructed to do so, I just look at it as more of a, it's a real thing and it should be utilized.
[00:09:17] But I think the government just sort of stands behind it and uses it as, see, see, we care about public awareness when they really don't.
[00:09:25] Because otherwise they would train the doctors to go there on a regular basis, right?
[00:09:29] And report, report, report, right?
[00:09:31] You would think, right?
[00:09:32] I mean, it's the law that you're supposed to do it.
[00:09:34] But most people, like I said, haven't even heard of it.
[00:09:37] Every practitioner that I know, I've asked them, have you ever reported to VAERS?
[00:09:41] And the answer was always no.
[00:09:43] Wow.
[00:09:43] Components of the vaccines.
[00:09:46] Well, you know, and that's a loaded question.
[00:09:48] And this is where I get into arguments with people all the time, Kate, because people like to, I heard you, you know, in the lead in and people talk about anti-vax.
[00:09:54] They're saying that in a vacuum because people don't understand.
[00:09:57] When you say that to me, I understand it very differently.
[00:10:00] I'm sorry.
[00:10:00] I think of vaccines as, well, first of all, I don't like to use the word vaccine when it comes to these shots.
[00:10:05] When you say something to somebody who's 70, 80, 90 years old, they're thinking inoculation, lifetime immunity, or a long-term immunity.
[00:10:12] With these mRNA shots, we registered only about 120 days of an antibody response, okay?
[00:10:17] That, to me, in my mind, does not classify as a vaccine.
[00:10:20] But if you think about vaccines in total and what we've used in the past, most of them have been live attenuated.
[00:10:26] They've been subunit vaccines.
[00:10:27] They're viral vector vaccines.
[00:10:29] This is the first time, even though mRNA has been around for a while, this is the first time we've ever rolled it out.
[00:10:34] It's not ready for prime time.
[00:10:36] So when people talk about the components of these vaccines, you have to kind of get specific because this mRNA technology is so different than what we're used to.
[00:10:45] It's not appropriate to call somebody anti-vax if they're okay with subunit vaccines or if they're okay with live attenuated vaccines like that's what the polio vaccine is made of.
[00:10:54] When you get into the mRNA vaccine or technology, it's completely different.
[00:10:58] It's apples to oranges.
[00:11:00] Okay.
[00:11:00] And the mRNA technology does what inside the body?
[00:11:06] Well, that's for people who have pay grades above mine.
[00:11:11] I have a chapter in the book about it, but I had to do a lot of research, and I interviewed Dr. Jancy Lindsay, who's a microbiologist.
[00:11:16] And I tell you, when she starts explaining this to me, my face just glazed over, and I'm like, Jancy, you've got to slow down and break that down into layman's terms.
[00:11:24] I think I had her on the show.
[00:11:25] I think I had her on my show.
[00:11:27] I wouldn't doubt it.
[00:11:27] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:11:28] She's a world-famous microbiologist.
[00:11:30] She's testified in front of a lot of committees.
[00:11:32] She's become a great friend.
[00:11:34] She's a wealth of knowledge when it comes to that.
[00:11:36] See, that's the thing with this.
[00:11:37] You know, I can look at it from the data on the practitioner side.
[00:11:39] I can tell you what they do in practice.
[00:11:41] I can tell you what we see in the office, that most people get an inflammatory response, and it causes people to inflame areas of instability.
[00:11:48] So it's the 20-year-old girl who would normally get a joint issue at 40, and now all of a sudden at 20, she's got a joint issue.
[00:11:54] It's a 40-year-old man who would get a heart issue at 70, and now it's coming out early because it's inflamed that area of weakness in their body.
[00:12:01] I see it from the practitioner's standpoint, what my staff sees.
[00:12:04] Then I go to Jancy Lindsay to tell me, hey, what's doing this in the shot?
[00:12:08] And she starts using all this jargon to tell me, well, it does this with lipid nanoparticles.
[00:12:13] Right, right.
[00:12:13] Very technical, very technical.
[00:12:16] Interesting.
[00:12:16] So a lot of the shots they're working on now, like little Peter with the round glasses and the bow tie.
[00:12:21] So he is working on a plethora of different mRNA injections that they're going to try to coerce us into wanting, desiring.
[00:12:34] Yes?
[00:12:36] Yeah, I mean, it seems like that.
[00:12:37] They're talking about the flu vaccine going toward mRNA at some point, and that's the problem with the public.
[00:12:41] They don't understand the difference in technology.
[00:12:43] Dr. Michael Schwartz is my guest to the book Vaccine Fiction.
[00:12:47] Be right back.
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[00:16:22] And of course, I've got a great guest in this hour and can't wait to get back to him and get his take on some of the nominations.
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[00:17:41] Dr. Mike Schwartz is my guest.
[00:17:43] And of course, you also have a show too, don't you?
[00:17:46] Yeah, two mics live on Rumble and the Mike Schwartz show.
[00:17:49] I do the Mike Schwartz show in the mornings and two mics lives Monday, Wednesday and Friday
[00:17:52] at 7 p.m. on Eastern time.
[00:17:54] When do you sleep?
[00:17:56] Goodness.
[00:17:56] I don't.
[00:17:57] I got it.
[00:17:58] It's either I'm literally in the studio all day.
[00:18:01] Oh, my gosh.
[00:18:02] I was going to say, holy cow.
[00:18:04] I do a weekend show and then this daily show.
[00:18:06] But my gosh, I mean, you're you're writing book after book.
[00:18:09] That's amazing.
[00:18:09] So talk about for just a moment.
[00:18:12] I want to venture into the nomination.
[00:18:14] Dr. Jeanette.
[00:18:15] Do you want to talk about Dr. Jeanette for a moment before we go back to vaccine fiction?
[00:18:19] Yeah, Dr. Jeanette Nashua.
[00:18:21] I get more questions.
[00:18:22] You know, it's kind of funny.
[00:18:23] Like, you know, when when Trump started making picks, I always kind of sat back and said, all
[00:18:27] right, well, if this is who he wants, then, OK, I got to kind of deal with it.
[00:18:31] But, you know, we people who are conservatives, we tend to have minds of our own.
[00:18:34] So I've been questioning that.
[00:18:36] I don't love where she was on COVID.
[00:18:37] I don't love where Dr.
[00:18:38] Oz was on COVID.
[00:18:39] There's a few picks that I don't like.
[00:18:41] And those are the two I get asked about the most.
[00:18:43] She was wrong.
[00:18:44] She was wrong on COVID.
[00:18:45] She was wrong on COVID the entire time.
[00:18:47] She was one of those people that took 12 months to 18 months to catch up and has enough cognitive
[00:18:52] distortion that she doesn't want to admit she was wrong.
[00:18:55] So I can't see her as the Surgeon General.
[00:18:57] That's my wheelhouse, at least.
[00:18:59] And I'm very disappointed in that pick.
[00:19:02] Oh, my gosh.
[00:19:03] Yeah, I am.
[00:19:04] I am, too.
[00:19:04] I have.
[00:19:05] I've been disappointed in a lot of the picks.
[00:19:07] But, yeah.
[00:19:08] For United States Surgeon General.
[00:19:10] And you're right.
[00:19:11] She had she had the narrative take.
[00:19:14] Right.
[00:19:14] She was the narrator.
[00:19:16] Yeah.
[00:19:16] Wear a mask.
[00:19:17] Get shot.
[00:19:17] Do this.
[00:19:18] Do that.
[00:19:18] Oh, the shots prevent.
[00:19:20] You know, the shots don't prevent anything.
[00:19:21] They make it worse on people.
[00:19:22] We'll get into that.
[00:19:23] But I mean, it's it's heartbreaking to see that.
[00:19:25] I know Trump has a lot of.
[00:19:27] He look.
[00:19:28] She's I think she's the sister in law of Mike Waltz.
[00:19:31] And so there's a little bit of nepotism maybe going on right there.
[00:19:34] You know, when he found out I was talking to you off air about the.
[00:19:37] Oh, God, the sheriff of Hillsborough County and the sheriff of Hillsborough County, the
[00:19:41] stuff about him came out during COVID.
[00:19:43] And then he said he withdrew.
[00:19:44] Trump came out with a statement today and said, no, he withdrew Chad Kroninger or whatever
[00:19:48] his last name is.
[00:19:49] I'm going to mispronounce that.
[00:19:50] I don't know if that's going to happen with Jeanette Nashua because she has more ties to
[00:19:54] the Trump administration of these people coming in.
[00:19:57] So I don't know if it's going to happen, but it is the most asked question on all the
[00:20:00] interviews I do.
[00:20:01] What about the COVID select committee coming out and saying vaccine mandates not supported
[00:20:06] by science masks ruled useless finally after it took him two years.
[00:20:11] I guess it took me like two minutes, but two years to do this.
[00:20:15] What was your take?
[00:20:16] Select committee reminds reminds me of how inefficient our government is.
[00:20:20] I've been saying all this stuff since 2020.
[00:20:23] My book Fauci's fiction goes into that.
[00:20:25] And it's fine.
[00:20:25] My book came out at the first book came out in June of 2023.
[00:20:29] And a lot of people, you know, the naysayers, they want to come out and go, well, you know,
[00:20:33] hindsight's 2020.
[00:20:34] And I point them to long form interviews and podcasts that I did back in 2020 and 2021 where
[00:20:39] I'm saying the exact same thing that's in the book.
[00:20:41] I mean, we had this is the one thing that, you know, when you're doing this first and you're
[00:20:45] the first line of defense on this thing, you are trying to uncover what it is so that
[00:20:49] you can help the whole humanity.
[00:20:51] Imagine me on an island waving my hand going, hey, guys, over here, I think I found something
[00:20:55] that could save the world.
[00:20:56] Stop the lockdown.
[00:20:57] Stop the suicide rates.
[00:20:58] We don't need to do this.
[00:21:00] Right.
[00:21:00] And nobody wanted to listen, including Dr. Nashua, including Dr. Roz.
[00:21:04] They continue to go on with this narrative.
[00:21:05] So the select committee, a little too little too late.
[00:21:08] Thank you for that.
[00:21:09] I'm so glad you said that.
[00:21:10] And yeah, we were ringing the bell day one and it was just I got so much hate mail.
[00:21:14] It was insane.
[00:21:15] We got a ton of hate mail for not going along and believing that we were just about to meet
[00:21:20] our doom.
[00:21:21] And it cracks me up that we even still call it a pandemic because the only pandemic that
[00:21:25] was really going on was remdesivir and a ventilator in the ICUs of America's hospitals via the
[00:21:31] government, via the government telling them and what they were going to do to the patients.
[00:21:37] Be right back.
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[00:23:08] Peace on earth.
[00:23:12] Welcome back.
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[00:23:14] That's actually Will Ferrell.
[00:23:16] If you can hear that in that song.
[00:23:18] Welcome back to the show.
[00:23:20] I have a guest, Dr. Michael Schwartz.
[00:23:22] And of course, Mike wrote Fauci's fiction.
[00:23:25] Is it Fauci's fiction?
[00:23:27] Am I getting that right?
[00:23:28] Whoops.
[00:23:28] Hold on just a second.
[00:23:29] Let me cut music here.
[00:23:31] And of course, vaccine fiction.
[00:23:34] Am I getting that right?
[00:23:34] Is it Fauci?
[00:23:36] Did I get it wrong?
[00:23:37] No, Fauci's fiction.
[00:23:39] Yeah.
[00:23:40] First one's Fauci's fiction.
[00:23:41] Second one, vaccine fiction.
[00:23:42] Got it.
[00:23:42] Thank you.
[00:23:42] Sorry.
[00:23:43] I'm getting my brains melting today.
[00:23:45] I apologize.
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[00:24:25] So, coming back, thank you for speaking out about the Surgeon General position and a little
[00:24:35] bit on Dr. Oz.
[00:24:36] What's your view on Oz?
[00:24:38] Kind of the same thing.
[00:24:39] In the position he's going into at CMS, he could bring some good changes.
[00:24:44] CMS is a disaster.
[00:24:46] Center for Medicaid and Medicare Services.
[00:24:48] But as far as just my overall trust in watching him and how he reacted to COVID, he kind of
[00:24:54] lost credibility with me.
[00:24:55] Yeah.
[00:24:55] Of course.
[00:24:56] Me too.
[00:24:56] How about RFK?
[00:24:58] What's your take?
[00:24:59] I like RFK and what he wants to do.
[00:25:01] We don't agree on a lot of political issues, but that's not what he's going there for.
[00:25:05] Healthcare-wise, he's done a fantastic job.
[00:25:07] I mean, you look at the breadth of experience he has as a lawyer, the Children's – what
[00:25:11] is it?
[00:25:11] The Children's Defense Fund or whatever.
[00:25:13] I always get it confused.
[00:25:14] He's done a lot of great work.
[00:25:16] And so, I hear the ideas he wants to bring.
[00:25:19] And he's not telling anybody he's going to take away your cereal.
[00:25:22] He wants to get the information out there so that people have the choice.
[00:25:26] You know, we talked off air about we the people.
[00:25:28] It's really us that control the government.
[00:25:30] Well, it's supposed to be.
[00:25:32] The government controls us if we let them.
[00:25:33] But, you know, RFK wants to give the choice back to the people, and I applaud that.
[00:25:38] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:25:39] Isn't it interesting that no matter what, the only thing the government can produce to tell
[00:25:44] us for health – I have to say that in air quotes – the only answer is always in a
[00:25:51] vial and a needle.
[00:25:52] Do you find this as insane as I do that people actually go, oh, you have another vial with a
[00:25:59] needle?
[00:25:59] Great.
[00:26:00] You're going to save us again.
[00:26:01] It's always the only answer.
[00:26:03] And it's only – it's always the answer, even before they name said thing, that it's
[00:26:08] going to be this vial with a needle, a shot.
[00:26:11] Yeah, big pharma kind of rules the world.
[00:26:14] We were talking about – are they going to take the commercials off TV?
[00:26:16] He was talking about that.
[00:26:18] We sit around, look at these commercials and go, people don't know how to – you know,
[00:26:21] how these drugs work.
[00:26:22] They don't know what they're – they're running into their doctor because they want
[00:26:25] sky.
[00:26:25] Rizzy, you know, it's like you heard some commercial on TV and you're going, what do I need
[00:26:28] this for, doc?
[00:26:29] Right.
[00:26:30] Meanwhile, ignore things like sunlight, vitamin D.
[00:26:33] I mean, I take vitamins every day.
[00:26:35] The FDA took some peptides off the market.
[00:26:37] We use a lot of peptides in our office.
[00:26:38] They're all natural.
[00:26:39] Nice.
[00:26:39] You know, acid chains.
[00:26:40] Why are they taking peptides off the market?
[00:26:42] These things work great, but they get into a fight with big pharma.
[00:26:45] Big pharma says, no, no, no, we don't want people to be healthy.
[00:26:47] We want them to be sick.
[00:26:48] We see that in the way they treat people with cancer.
[00:26:51] There's a lot of things that don't make sense in the medical community, so we try to have
[00:26:54] a little bit more of a – I hate to say a holistic approach, but we do a lot of
[00:26:58] things that make –
[00:26:58] No, I think you should say holistic approach.
[00:26:59] I think it's great.
[00:27:00] I love it.
[00:27:01] I guess best way – you know, most people,
[00:27:03] don't even understand the difference between an MD, a DO.
[00:27:06] The DOs are a little bit more trained than MDs.
[00:27:08] People don't understand that.
[00:27:09] We hire all nurse practitioners because nurse practitioners have bedside usually for years.
[00:27:13] Then they wind up going to school to get their nurse practitioner, and they come out
[00:27:18] as better providers than these MDs or DOs out of school who learn the traditional allopathic
[00:27:23] way.
[00:27:23] I don't like it.
[00:27:24] I like the osteopathic approach, but I like – you're talking to somebody about their
[00:27:28] blood pressure.
[00:27:29] The first thing that we do isn't to just throw them on a blood pressure medication.
[00:27:32] It's about lifestyle modifications.
[00:27:34] We want to get you to work out.
[00:27:35] We want you to eat healthier.
[00:27:36] We want you to live a healthier lifestyle.
[00:27:39] The answer isn't always drugs, but you see that in the training of the way people go
[00:27:44] to medical school.
[00:27:44] It's almost the go-to.
[00:27:46] You're so right on that.
[00:27:47] And Fauci is sort of the Mengele.
[00:27:49] It's like a – we don't realize that.
[00:27:52] We've got to get to that point where you get past the COVID fatigue.
[00:27:56] I get that.
[00:27:57] I get people are COVIDed out, okay?
[00:28:00] And oh my gosh, it was such a horrific time, and I couldn't stand it.
[00:28:04] I can't talk about it.
[00:28:05] We should be talking about it every day because we have to learn the lessons.
[00:28:09] And one of the lessons for me – I'm not sure what the lessons were for you, Mike – but
[00:28:13] one of the lessons for me was the hospitals have been completely overtaken by legal, and
[00:28:19] it comes out of government.
[00:28:20] And they got – if they went along with everything they were told to do that was very dangerous
[00:28:26] with remdesivir and ventilators and all the rest, that they would be inoculated from
[00:28:33] any type of lawsuit.
[00:28:34] And so they all did it.
[00:28:36] And so when you go in thinking the hospital is your friend and that they're in your court,
[00:28:39] they're not.
[00:28:40] What were some of your big moments where you go, I hope we learn.
[00:28:44] Please learn.
[00:28:46] Well, that's a tough one because I'll tell you there's so many.
[00:28:49] I do interviews every day, and I realize when I see the audience reaction, sometimes the
[00:28:53] comments, that most people don't hear a thing.
[00:28:56] I learned that when you – there's so much that I know about COVID that most people don't
[00:29:00] know, but they think they do because they think they've discovered it and gone down a
[00:29:03] rabbit hole, and they've gravitated.
[00:29:05] They have a lot of cognitive bias.
[00:29:06] They have a lot of anchor bias.
[00:29:08] They have a lot of their own distortion where they kind of think they figured it out.
[00:29:12] But most people can't tell you how testing works.
[00:29:14] They can't tell you how viruses transmit.
[00:29:15] They can't tell you why we don't wear masks or viruses.
[00:29:18] I can go down the lineage of everything that we've learned.
[00:29:21] The biggest thing that scares me is that we haven't really learned anything as a whole.
[00:29:25] And if something like this were to happen again, we're going to react the exact same
[00:29:29] way.
[00:29:29] Or in the converse, if we really have the next thing that we're facing as a society, too
[00:29:36] many people are going to think, ah, we cried wolf last time.
[00:29:39] This isn't serious.
[00:29:39] So when something serious does come along that somebody like me says, hey, we need your
[00:29:43] attention right now.
[00:29:44] Too many people are going to say, nah, I've been through that before.
[00:29:47] Most people haven't learned anything about COVID.
[00:29:50] And it's sad to say, but I see that even on our side of the aisle when I'm talking to
[00:29:54] our friends and people who, you know, friendly interviews, I realize every day that there's
[00:29:58] a lot that people just haven't learned.
[00:30:00] And I hate to say read the book because we worked really hard on this thing.
[00:30:04] I put my heart and soul into it and we didn't do it.
[00:30:06] We don't make money on books.
[00:30:07] I put this out, Kate, because I've had what's in Fauci's fiction and now in vaccine fiction.
[00:30:12] I've had that conversation with thousands of patients to try to talk them off a ledge.
[00:30:16] I had two patients in my office today who wanted to corner me about COVID and they're
[00:30:20] sitting there like you could hear a pin drop in the room because I'm telling them things
[00:30:24] they've never heard.
[00:30:25] I'm putting the data into perspective for them.
[00:30:27] So I wrote this book to educate the public, but I realize every day that most people have
[00:30:32] gone down a rabbit hole and I don't know if it's too late to say, come back.
[00:30:36] Let's have this conversation.
[00:30:37] It might be, who knows?
[00:30:39] Right.
[00:30:39] Well, I like that you're bringing awareness to this and knowledge because we had a lot of
[00:30:45] information, but when it comes to knowledge and wisdom, not so much out there, right?
[00:30:49] And then of course the book, Vaccine Fiction and Dr. Michael Schwartz is my guest.
[00:30:53] If you're going to go hunt for that book right now on Amazon or that, that's the place to
[00:30:58] get it, right?
[00:30:59] Amazon or easiest place, even though they censored me.
[00:31:02] I can say that.
[00:31:03] Oh my gosh.
[00:31:04] I, you know, I know.
[00:31:05] I believe you.
[00:31:06] And then also I have a liner to the show and it's a, if you're, if you're, it's all about
[00:31:13] being useless and a masker.
[00:31:15] And we're watching people with masks on still.
[00:31:18] You go to the airport, you go to grocery store, you'll see the couple of nimrods at the grocery
[00:31:22] store walking around as if they're doing humanity a favor on the masks.
[00:31:27] I know we have a minute before we go to break and we'll be back after this next segment, but,
[00:31:31] but your thoughts on masks, please for one minute.
[00:31:35] Second dumbest thing I've ever seen in my career.
[00:31:37] We do not wear masks for viruses.
[00:31:39] I never required them in my offices yet.
[00:31:41] People would come in and yell at us and say, why aren't you wearing masks?
[00:31:44] I would rather educate my patients.
[00:31:46] Those things aren't duct tape to your face.
[00:31:48] Don't argue filter size with me.
[00:31:49] And unless you're wearing a properly fitted N95 mask, which most people don't know how
[00:31:53] to fit, you're doing nothing.
[00:31:54] You're actually making it worse because the people that were wearing them, Kate, were coming
[00:31:58] in with staph infections or a host of other bacterial infections that I do test for in my
[00:32:02] office.
[00:32:03] So amazing.
[00:32:04] And by the way, I was going back in my newspaper archive for 1918.
[00:32:08] And of course the doctors and nurses at the time, you'll see pictures of them in masks,
[00:32:13] right?
[00:32:13] Because that's what the news wanted to carry.
[00:32:15] But when you looked at the articles themselves, it came out where the nurses and the doctors
[00:32:20] were saying, man, the nurses and doctors are getting really sick because they're wearing
[00:32:24] these masks over and over and over again every day.
[00:32:27] And it's making them sick.
[00:32:28] And I thought, why can't the articles get out?
[00:32:30] Why is it always just the pictures?
[00:32:32] You know, like we did this before.
[00:32:33] We're going to have to do it again.
[00:32:34] That kind of narrative.
[00:32:36] They always go back to the 1918 in which they inflated the numbers like you can't even
[00:32:40] imagine.
[00:32:41] You can't even imagine.
[00:32:43] You guys know the deep dive I did on that.
[00:32:44] Be right back with Dr. Michael Schwartz, the book Vaccine Fiction.
[00:32:47] Be right back.
[00:32:49] This is the Kate Daly Show.
[00:33:10] Welcome back.
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[00:33:13] I've got Dr. Michael Schwartz with me.
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[00:33:16] He also wrote Fauci's fiction.
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[00:33:35] Again, your show, Mike?
[00:33:38] Two Mikes Live is the channel on Rumble.
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[00:33:42] Awesome.
[00:33:42] And then, of course, the book Vaccine Fiction.
[00:33:44] There's a lot in here.
[00:33:45] And how do you feel now about the flu shots?
[00:33:49] Because when the government's always behind these things, you know, I won't do anything they say to do.
[00:33:53] So it's always opposite, Bill.
[00:33:55] So you've got flu shots.
[00:33:56] And I remember Judy Mikevitz, who actually worked on shots for the government, said it's all in the same vat.
[00:34:01] Like, it's all the same stuff.
[00:34:03] Put in flu shots and put in all of these shots.
[00:34:05] What's your feeling on this?
[00:34:07] I've never gotten a flu shot, if that tells you anything.
[00:34:10] You know, everybody always wants to compartmentalize because people tell you their stories from their own myopic view.
[00:34:15] And it's hard to kind of understand that.
[00:34:17] And it's funny.
[00:34:18] When you're trying to tell the difference between these mRNA versus viral vector or live attenuants, I'm not advocating for one over the other.
[00:34:24] I'm just telling you that people always talk about it in a vacuum.
[00:34:26] And they never are specific.
[00:34:28] And it just lends to their credibility because right off the bat, it's like, well, how do you want to argue a point with me when you don't even know what you're talking about?
[00:34:34] It's what most people do.
[00:34:35] So I've never gotten a flu shot.
[00:34:37] The traditional efficacy is, what, 30% to 40% year by year.
[00:34:40] Ridiculous.
[00:34:41] It's like, why am I going to take it?
[00:34:42] Then people will tell you, well, I've never taken flu shots.
[00:34:44] And the one year I got it, it's the one year I got the flu.
[00:34:47] And I'm like, why are you going to take something that has an efficacy rate, even if you believe that efficacy rate, that's going to give you an inflammatory reaction?
[00:34:54] Why would you get something in your system that you don't need?
[00:34:57] You know, when we started testing all these people, Kate, when we had 19,000, what we realized was that only 10 to 15% had a classic symptomology.
[00:35:06] Most people had COVID and never knew of it.
[00:35:09] And when you do that over and over and over, you say to your immunologist, which I did one day, I called him and said, hey, I wonder how many asymptomatic flus are walking around in the world.
[00:35:18] See, what we haven't learned from this whole experiment, all the testing that we did, 44,000 of them on 19,000 patients,
[00:35:26] three years worth of horizontal data, we could literally change the way we practice medicine moving forward.
[00:35:31] But we haven't because we're ignoring the data.
[00:35:34] We went right back to the 18th century where we're guessing at things.
[00:35:37] You mentioned antibiotics on your show.
[00:35:39] Antibiotics only work for a bacterial infection.
[00:35:41] Yes.
[00:35:41] But how do you know that?
[00:35:43] If you're just testing a rapid flu, a rapid COVID, a rapid strep, what are you guessing at the other 28 things that are on my respiratory pathogen panel?
[00:35:51] Most doctors will tell you they don't use them because guess what?
[00:35:54] It takes too long.
[00:35:54] You've got to swab a patient.
[00:35:55] You've got to go check a portal.
[00:35:56] And I'm going, wait a minute.
[00:35:57] Don't you care about your patient's health?
[00:35:59] Their main concern, and this is why maybe Oz could do a good job if he gets in CMS, that most people, most doctors get paid like $41 for a basic visit.
[00:36:10] And by the time the biller takes out their five bucks, what are they left with?
[00:36:13] $36.
[00:36:14] You've got to churn so many patients through.
[00:36:16] That's why when you go to the doctor, you're sitting there for two hours, three hours waiting to get in because they overbooked their patients.
[00:36:22] They don't care about your health.
[00:36:23] When you come to one of my offices, one of my nurse practitioners is going to spend a half hour with you.
[00:36:27] We don't have our waiting room has two seats and that's for a reason because no one ever waits in it.
[00:36:32] We bring you right into our offices.
[00:36:33] We care about patient health.
[00:36:35] But if we take that data, all the stuff that we learn from this exercise, we could apply it to medicine, but no one is listening.
[00:36:43] Sad.
[00:36:44] Sad.
[00:36:44] Sad.
[00:36:44] Sad state of affairs.
[00:36:45] Yeah.
[00:36:46] Because we're going to have other things created.
[00:36:50] We're going to have other things come at us.
[00:36:52] And before they even named said thing, 90 symptoms plus all the symptoms pretty much plus below vid, they add the cure.
[00:37:01] And I always find that interesting when they have the so-called cure before they even named it because it's such a mystery.
[00:37:07] And that's why they made people stay in their homes because it was such a mystery.
[00:37:11] And I remember they could never come up with the actual sequence of it.
[00:37:15] Did they ever come up with the sequence of it?
[00:37:18] I asked my immunologist this multiple times.
[00:37:20] You can find it.
[00:37:22] And so we can sit there and we can look at the signal.
[00:37:24] We can amplify it.
[00:37:25] And look, I've gotten into arguments with people about PCR testing.
[00:37:28] I will tell you that PCR testing does work.
[00:37:31] You can go back to the Kerry Mollis interview and say, oh, he said-
[00:37:34] I have played that.
[00:37:35] We've used it for years before COVID.
[00:37:37] It works.
[00:37:38] It's the only way to properly identify something.
[00:37:40] And when you're working with a reputable lab that goes to a reputable cycle count and reputable PhDs who care about their reputations, you can see it in practice.
[00:37:49] Because I can tell you, for the folks that tell you PCR testing doesn't work, that would tell you I could test 100 people.
[00:37:54] And they're going to tell you I'm going to find something on all those 100 people.
[00:37:58] Well, I will tell you in practice, I've tested 100 people, found 100 negatives or 99 negatives and one positive, tested the exact same sequence of patients the next day and gotten the exact same result.
[00:38:08] And repeated this data over and over and over to tell you that it does work.
[00:38:12] When I find a patient who's got a low viral load, that doesn't mean that they're not sick.
[00:38:16] It just means that they don't have a high enough viral load that it's going to destroy the mitochondria of your cells.
[00:38:21] The most common symptom of COVID is a headache.
[00:38:24] I get into arguments with people who will tell me, well, my wife had COVID, but I never got it.
[00:38:28] And I go, well, no, no.
[00:38:29] Not that you know of.
[00:38:31] I'd have to test you every single week, and I've done this on patients, for three years.
[00:38:35] I have police departments where I've tested the same cops for three years straight every single week.
[00:38:40] Not only do I have positive or negative data, I have CT value, I have co-infection, I have comorbidity, like I mentioned before, and symptomology.
[00:38:48] And you can get a guy or a woman today who's COVID positive with no symptoms, and then you can watch the signal increase.
[00:38:54] It could wax or wane if I test that person every day to look at it and see the signal.
[00:38:59] And as the signal increases, in other words, the viral load increases, you can see that person then develop symptoms.
[00:39:05] The testing works in practice when you know what you're doing with it.
[00:39:08] So the naysayers that tell me, oh, this doesn't work or that doesn't work, I go, how much experience do you actually have with testing?
[00:39:15] And usually the answer is zero.
[00:39:16] If we're going to call it COVID, though, COVID has the exact same symptoms of this flu, this pneumonia, because I remember they called my husband's pneumonia.
[00:39:24] Actually, they came out in the report and said, yes, he did have pneumonia, but it's all the same symptoms.
[00:39:31] So the test is doing viral load.
[00:39:33] But when we say a COVID test, per se, then how is it for COVID if COVID is all a lot of the same symptoms or all the same symptoms as many things that are respiratory?
[00:39:44] Dr. Justin Marchegiani Most of symptomology is going to be the same when you get sick with anything, whether it's a runny nose, cough, fever, shortness, whatever you get.
[00:39:53] The symptoms you're getting is because the mitochondria of your cells is getting destroyed as the viral load increases.
[00:39:59] And again, you have to be specific.
[00:40:01] So you could have COVID with staph.
[00:40:04] I had one patient who had COVID and flu A at the same time.
[00:40:07] That's very rare, but I saw it twice over those years of testing.
[00:40:10] So you have to identify exactly what you have.
[00:40:12] Dr. Justin Marchegiani Symptomology then comes out of how much viral load you have, if you're not sleeping, if you're not eating, if your body's not fighting it off.
[00:40:19] Most people who are pretty healthy will get sick.
[00:40:21] In other words, if you look around a restaurant when you go there and there's 100 people, I'll guarantee you that 10 of them are fighting off something right now.
[00:40:28] They just don't know it.
[00:40:29] But if I were to test it, I could tell you, this person is going to get symptoms in a couple days.
[00:40:33] They just haven't gotten symptoms yet.
[00:40:34] You can fight off stuff all day long.
[00:40:36] But if you're relatively healthy, eating right, sleeping right, taking vitamins, all the stuff that you advocate for on your show, you're going to fight these things off and never know you got it in the first place.
[00:40:45] Yeah.
[00:40:45] Take copper.
[00:40:46] Copper is the one thing they took out of our food supply that we desperately need in our systems, I feel.
[00:40:54] We're lacking copper.
[00:40:56] Copper is like the maestro of all the other minerals.
[00:40:59] So the book, Vaccine Fiction, Dr. Michael Schwartz, I'm so glad you joined me.
[00:41:05] Thank you.
[00:41:06] It's always good to just chat about all this stuff.
[00:41:08] I mean, we're going to be facing stuff again.
[00:41:10] Yeah.
[00:41:10] Keep fighting it.
[00:41:11] Keep fighting the good fight, Kate.
[00:41:12] I appreciate your time.
[00:41:13] Yeah, for sure.
[00:41:14] Thank you so much.
[00:41:15] And of course, yeah, the book, Vaccine Fiction, and of course, Fauci Fiction.
[00:41:20] Fauci's Fiction.
[00:41:21] You might want to grab both, read through them.
[00:41:23] And I love it.
[00:41:25] I love that you did a lot of research on this with the testing, too.
[00:41:27] Of course, katedalyradio.com.