112524 2nd HR Dr Duke & Kate Get Personal- How Their Faiths Shaped Thanksgiving Must Listen
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112524 2nd HR Dr Duke & Kate Get Personal- How Their Faiths Shaped Thanksgiving Must Listen

112524 2nd HR Dr Duke & Kate Get Personal- How Their Faiths Shaped Thanksgiving Must Listen by Kate Dalley

[00:00:06] It's time to tune into the Kate Dalley Show, America's newest addiction. The show starts now.

[00:00:13] Guys, listen, I'm having a slight problem with the damn bird, alright?

[00:00:17] What color is it now, Norman?

[00:00:19] Well, I think we're moving into the earth tones.

[00:00:24] Look, I'm sorry guys, a little pop thing won't pop out. There's something wrong with it.

[00:00:28] There's something wrong with you.

[00:00:29] No, no, it's a little pop thing.

[00:00:31] Hey, could somebody please explain to me where the little pop thing is on the turkey?

[00:00:35] I mean, because maybe it's different in the city, but in the country where I come from, turkeys aren't born a little pop.

[00:00:44] It's called a thermometer! Now can we go, please say thermometer!

[00:00:47] I play that clip from Cheers again.

[00:00:52] It cracks me up because I hope that's not Thanksgiving, like what it's about.

[00:00:57] The thermometer, the pop-up thing in the turkey.

[00:01:00] But in the last, by the way, Dr Duke Pesta is with me and I'm really happy because I have a question for Dr Duke Pesta.

[00:01:07] But how are you, Duke?

[00:01:08] I am doing well.

[00:01:09] Good, on this great Thanksgiving week.

[00:01:12] So, I'm going to bring up something I talked about in the last hour.

[00:01:16] I gave a lot of information in the last hour and a lot of it had to do with my faith because I don't usually talk about my faith on this show.

[00:01:23] I've always felt like I just kind of stay away from that topic because I don't want to hear a bunch of people calling up and being mean and saying things because I don't want to have to deal with that.

[00:01:32] And I don't think this is the right forum for it.

[00:01:35] So, I've stayed away from it generally.

[00:01:38] And this week, it kind of brings up this rich history of who lived here before us.

[00:01:43] And then, of course, this great nation that was formed and this constitution that we have that I'm ever so grateful for.

[00:01:50] And so, I brought up my faith.

[00:01:52] I brought up the Book of Mormon because it's a history of the ancestors to the Native Americans that lived here and all the things that they cared about and warned about and talked about and were talking about God.

[00:02:04] And they were talking about all of their faith and all of these things and everything was about Christ in the Book of Mormon.

[00:02:12] So, then, you know, this has really shaped a worldview of mine in how I view our role on earth, what we're here for.

[00:02:22] And then, of course, religiously, it shapes how I view what's going on with the deep state, what's going on with these conspiracies, these things that people are conspiring to do to take away liberty from others, us.

[00:02:36] Okay.

[00:02:37] And so, how that operates.

[00:02:38] So, I brought this up.

[00:02:40] And it's a touchy subject because I don't normally ever talk about this on the air.

[00:02:44] Today is the anniversary of being hired to do this.

[00:02:47] And this was 14 years ago.

[00:02:49] I started the Monday after Thanksgiving but was hired today.

[00:02:52] Okay.

[00:02:53] So, in all the years I've been on the radio, I don't usually talk about that.

[00:02:57] But being Thanksgiving week, I've seen ad after ad after ad and I've seen it turned into, it's just about family.

[00:03:05] It's just about sharing a meal as a family.

[00:03:08] So, get together because it's only about family.

[00:03:10] I'm like, it's lovely that it's about family.

[00:03:13] But we should also be talking and learning from a very rich history that we have here in America.

[00:03:18] Why did they fight?

[00:03:19] What were they fighting over?

[00:03:20] What was the faith of these people?

[00:03:21] Why can we learn anything from them?

[00:03:24] Because the Book of Mormon is wrought with this history, these experiences that increase faith in Christ.

[00:03:30] So, I'm like, this is something that is very important to me.

[00:03:34] It shaped my worldview and also my love for Christ.

[00:03:39] So, I want to ask you, how has your faith been shaped and how does it shape your worldview on how you view us, our role on this earth and what's going on around us?

[00:03:53] Well, I mean, that's a huge, huge, huge topic.

[00:03:55] It is a big question.

[00:03:56] But I will say a few things.

[00:03:58] First of all, the founding fathers came here not because they wanted to build a capitalist state, not because they wanted to be able to vote the way they wanted to, not because they were simply freed, want to be freed of kings and parliaments.

[00:04:14] They came here for religious reasons.

[00:04:16] This country was created, and it's very rare in the history of the world.

[00:04:22] This is a country that was created based exclusively on religious faith.

[00:04:27] I mean, that's very rare.

[00:04:29] And what they did in the founding documents was – nothing drives me more crazy when you hear college professors and high school public school teachers lecturing us that the founding fathers weren't Christian.

[00:04:44] Christianity had nothing to do with the founding of this country.

[00:04:47] That was a bunch of deists and atheists who wrote the Constitution.

[00:04:52] It's just not true.

[00:04:53] The vast majority of the people were Christians.

[00:04:56] A small number were deists who believed in God.

[00:05:00] And there were really no serious alien – atheists involved in this.

[00:05:04] And so when we gave – when they gave this country the First Amendment, right, the right to speak, you have the right to speak because you couldn't speak out religiously if you were a Protestant living in a Catholic or a Catholic living in a Protestant state.

[00:05:22] So freedom of speech, freedom of assembly.

[00:05:26] It wasn't for marching or parades or July 4th.

[00:05:30] It was about religious assembly.

[00:05:33] Every aspect of this was shaped around the idea that God, the creator – and it's going to sound cliche, but this is the first country in the history of the world that declared at the very core of its governments would be the idea that God and God alone gave us our rights.

[00:05:55] And so only God can take them away.

[00:05:58] And so, yes, you're exactly right.

[00:06:00] And you want to talk about the people who were here before us.

[00:06:03] This is where the progressives destroy culture.

[00:06:07] Oh, I want you to come – I want you to come right back to that.

[00:06:09] One thing I do want to mention while you just talked about the founders is that the founders devised our republic from Moses.

[00:06:16] It was Moses' way of doing what he did in the way that he managed everyone.

[00:06:24] This was what the founders looked to when they decided how the republic would operate.

[00:06:30] We are not a democracy.

[00:06:32] We are a republic.

[00:06:34] So there were certain aspects, you're right, about Christianity and the Bible that they literally took from Moses.

[00:06:42] Yeah, and it wasn't really – when Moses – God existed at the core of what it meant to be a Hebrew.

[00:06:49] Right.

[00:06:50] And that's what they transformed in how they governed their country.

[00:06:53] Right.

[00:06:53] Same thing happened here.

[00:06:55] And it's very rare in Western culture in particular that this would happen.

[00:06:59] But before – the peoples who lived before us – this is where the progressive left does a great evil.

[00:07:05] They want to talk about the goodness of the Native Americans, but it's not the actual goodness of Native Americans.

[00:07:13] It is this transferred ecological global warmest sentiment projected on Indians.

[00:07:21] I got news.

[00:07:21] The Indians did not worry about man-made anything.

[00:07:25] They butchered cattle and bison, and they burned fires, and they did what they did, not because they were woke or that their religion was so deeply pagan that they superstitiously protected the world.

[00:07:38] No.

[00:07:39] They lived like everybody else did.

[00:07:40] Nobody thought that human beings could destroy the world, not in the Western world and certainly not in Native American culture.

[00:07:48] Our behavior was not bigger than the gods who made us or the god who made us.

[00:07:53] So the left projects this noble, savage idea on progressives – on Indians.

[00:08:02] And it's really unfair because you and I both know that the one thing that we know about Indian history is how proud and how central their warriors were.

[00:08:14] Right.

[00:08:14] These were warrior cultures.

[00:08:16] We know the chiefs.

[00:08:19] We know the great military leaders.

[00:08:21] We know them.

[00:08:22] Just like in Western history, right?

[00:08:25] Right.

[00:08:25] The nature of Indian civilization is not peace pipes or wigwams or environmentalism.

[00:08:34] It's all about how they defended themselves because tribe after tribe after tribe attacked and was attacked, conquered and was conquered.

[00:08:43] It's who are your warriors?

[00:08:45] So we ignore that.

[00:08:47] So we take – this is why, what, 75% of Native Americans want the Washington Redskins back?

[00:08:54] Because that particular red-skinned motto mascot was a warrior and a fighter and a conqueror.

[00:09:02] That's what you want, right?

[00:09:04] Right.

[00:09:04] So we won't let the Indians celebrate their military history because that's not progressive.

[00:09:11] So we transform them into very effete, squishy little nature lovers, which is what all these idiots at the UN want.

[00:09:20] Well, that's just not fair.

[00:09:22] You emasculate the Indians by not allowing them to be celebrated in this culture.

[00:09:27] Like, hey, if you can celebrate the fighting Irish, by all means you should be able to have the Cleveland Indians or the Washington Redskins.

[00:09:36] So the progressives at the NCAA and in Washington, they're emasculating immigrants, Indians.

[00:09:45] Right.

[00:09:45] And turning them into something of agitprop for their own leftist, leftish sort of beta male kind of future.

[00:09:54] That's what they're doing to them.

[00:09:56] Yeah.

[00:09:56] So your point is another one.

[00:09:58] So they fought each other till we got here.

[00:10:01] And, of course, Columbus didn't kill anybody.

[00:10:04] It would be the conquistadors whose very name said what they came here to do, to conquer 30, 40, 50 years after Columbus.

[00:10:13] They're the ones who did that.

[00:10:14] They're the ones who bequeathed the Spanish language to the Aztecs and the Mexicans.

[00:10:19] Right.

[00:10:20] So we need to keep these things in perspective.

[00:10:24] Go ahead.

[00:10:24] I agree.

[00:10:25] And on the ship, you know, if you ask Google, this is so fascinating to me.

[00:10:30] It'll talk about how Columbus Voyage exploited the Native Americans.

[00:10:36] Why?

[00:10:37] I'm not joking.

[00:10:38] Because they brought back gifts from them.

[00:10:40] So when he came back from the Americas, he brought native birds and plants and pineapple fruit and a hammock and flowers and small amounts of gold and gold jewelry from the natives and the tobacco plant.

[00:10:54] Because these were gifts.

[00:10:58] Isn't it interesting how AI, how Google will then insert intent?

[00:11:03] Oh, no.

[00:11:04] This was for exploit.

[00:11:05] They couldn't wait to get back to exploit them.

[00:11:07] No.

[00:11:08] These were gifts given to them.

[00:11:09] And they brought them gifts for whoever would be here.

[00:11:13] Right.

[00:11:13] So, yes.

[00:11:14] Go ahead.

[00:11:15] Well, how about what we gave them?

[00:11:17] This is the lie of history.

[00:11:18] Yes.

[00:11:18] We benefited.

[00:11:19] They gave us maize.

[00:11:20] They gave us corn.

[00:11:21] They taught us how to fish American rivers.

[00:11:24] I get that.

[00:11:25] But we also gave them written language.

[00:11:28] We gave them horses.

[00:11:30] We gave them modern medicine to some degree.

[00:11:36] We got the things that we gave them.

[00:11:39] Rifles, right?

[00:11:40] Things that pulled them up out of the Stone Age.

[00:11:44] This is what nobody wants to talk about.

[00:11:46] The reason why we conquered this nation was not because we stole from anything, anything from anybody.

[00:11:53] It's just a modernized culture meeting a Stone Age culture.

[00:11:58] A culture with no writing.

[00:12:00] A culture.

[00:12:00] I'm not saying that they were bad people, but they were living in the Stone Age.

[00:12:05] I think they had writing.

[00:12:05] I do.

[00:12:06] I think they had writing.

[00:12:07] I really do.

[00:12:08] I think they had records and all kinds of things.

[00:12:10] But it was just not known to us.

[00:12:13] Well, I mean, with all those tribes across all this continent, we don't see a whole lot of evidence for it in North America.

[00:12:22] That's exactly what I was talking about in the last hour.

[00:12:24] There is some evidence of it.

[00:12:26] It's just what's fascinating about it is that this evidence, these people that wrote down their histories, this is what has, I think, been part of our kind of been eradicated from our history.

[00:12:39] Something that we would never talk about over the Thanksgiving table that we probably should, but we'll come back on that.

[00:12:44] A little bit more on that with Dr. Duke Pest.

[00:12:46] Isn't he great?

[00:12:47] Be right back.

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[00:17:39] So coming on back, there's so much about history that we do not understand.

[00:17:45] And I'm grateful to have Dr. Duke Pesta with me because he, I love when you talk about Christopher Columbus and Thanksgiving because when we're talking about the subject in all the schools, it's all the murderous white men came and these Indians were vegetarians and they were just peaceful.

[00:18:03] And then we came.

[00:18:04] And it's such a lie.

[00:18:06] It is a lie.

[00:18:07] It's such a lie.

[00:18:08] We're also, we're talking at the break.

[00:18:10] We need to make a distinction for the, for people who are listening for the first part of this, the show.

[00:18:15] We're not suggesting, I'm not suggesting that the Indians didn't manipulate symbols or couldn't.

[00:18:21] Yes.

[00:18:22] Thank you.

[00:18:23] Commit, could, could communicate to each other with certain kinds of glyphs.

[00:18:29] So what I'm suggesting, they were not literate cultures.

[00:18:31] They didn't teach reading to their children.

[00:18:34] They did not have a grammar.

[00:18:35] They did not have, they didn't write books.

[00:18:38] And what the kind of recordings of their history were very primitive.

[00:18:42] In other words, they were very Stone Age versus the kind of literacy that the Europeans brought with them.

[00:18:48] Again, it's a difference between modern age and Stone Age cultures.

[00:18:52] And that's the thing.

[00:18:53] We're, we're asked to believe that Native Americans were morally and civilizationally higher than the Europeans.

[00:19:01] Mm-hmm.

[00:19:01] When in reality, they, they were actually every bit as brutal as the Europeans, but they did not have the civilizational tools that modern people had.

[00:19:12] And so that's when we think about the Aztec, as you pointed out.

[00:19:16] I'm glad you pointed that out.

[00:19:16] Mm-hmm.

[00:19:17] I mean, they were murdering thousands of captured Indians every weekend.

[00:19:21] Denomic.

[00:19:22] They were ripping hearts out.

[00:19:23] Absolutely.

[00:19:25] Uh, cannibalism and all sorts of things going on.

[00:19:27] So that's important to make that distinction, I think.

[00:19:30] Well, yeah, because there was, there were many people that, um, in the ancestors of the Indians that didn't have faith in God.

[00:19:36] They, they lived a totally different life as you can look around you, look at, look at how diverse and different, um, you have Christian cultures here in America.

[00:19:45] Then you also have your Satanists, you know, you have these people.

[00:19:48] So this is not hard to imagine that you had tribes that were, uh, without God.

[00:19:53] You had tribes that believed in God.

[00:19:54] You had a lot of warring, a lot of spiritual battles going on.

[00:19:57] We had all kinds of different things that we could be learning from right now in history.

[00:20:02] Why did they war?

[00:20:03] What would they tell us?

[00:20:04] What were their warnings about how government, how they got into government and how those governments of those nations, um, could, um, destroy each other and war.

[00:20:14] These wars could destroy each other and how they destroyed faithful versus the people that, um, and, and overtook the faithful.

[00:20:21] Do you, don't you think we could learn from something like that today?

[00:20:25] This is why this is so fascinating to me when it comes to religion.

[00:20:28] And that's why I said, how does your faith, you know, kind of dictate your worldview or how does it change your worldview on what's happened?

[00:20:35] Well, painting Europeans as evil and Indians as saints is as wrong as 200 years ago when we painted Indians as demons and saw Europeans as saints.

[00:20:49] It's a bad way to go.

[00:20:51] And that's how the minute, the left manipulates you into constant war.

[00:20:55] Right.

[00:20:55] Yes.

[00:20:56] But to step back and I'll, I'll, I'll make a statement.

[00:20:58] I know we're going to have to go to break shortly, but to me, everything in this country, when it, when it runs well, it runs through faith first.

[00:21:07] This separation of state and government and state is nonsense.

[00:21:12] It's not in the founding documents.

[00:21:14] Now, again, we are not a theocracy, right?

[00:21:16] But we are wholly able to practice our faith, whatever our faith or no faith, even in government.

[00:21:23] So we have until we fix, until we fix that.

[00:21:25] Okay.

[00:21:26] Okay.

[00:21:27] Hold on just a second.

[00:21:28] So we have a caller on hold.

[00:21:29] I'll keep this caller on hold.

[00:21:31] And also I want to address something that you just said when we come back.

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[00:23:04] All right.

[00:23:05] Welcome back.

[00:23:06] Hey, Daly show.

[00:23:07] And of course, I'm here with you, Dr. Duke Pest.

[00:23:09] I do have a caller on hold.

[00:23:11] And of course, let's just let's just go right there.

[00:23:13] I don't want to waste any time.

[00:23:14] And of course, caller, go right ahead.

[00:23:16] Join in the conversation.

[00:23:19] Hey, Dr. Duke.

[00:23:20] Hi there.

[00:23:22] Go right ahead.

[00:23:22] Interesting conversation today.

[00:23:24] And I just wanted to point out when you were talking about the founding fathers and how we all know that a lot of our country was founded on their perception of Deuteronomy.

[00:23:38] Yes.

[00:23:38] And the Bible.

[00:23:39] Yes.

[00:23:39] But but what's fascinating, and I don't know if you two are aware, but my ancestry is of Native Americans.

[00:23:48] Oh, wow.

[00:23:48] And Ben Franklin actually went to the Iroquois nation and he studied how they had representatives come from their 10 different tribes all together to gather in a council in order to determine the pathway forward for their nation.

[00:24:06] And he actually looked at Congress and ended up giving those ideas and feedback.

[00:24:12] Yes.

[00:24:12] From Native Americans in our country.

[00:24:15] And so when people say that, you know, they were they were racist or they were bigoted or they just thought that they were, you know, stupid and they didn't really give Native Americans any say.

[00:24:26] Hogwash.

[00:24:26] Yes.

[00:24:27] Absolutely hogwash.

[00:24:28] They respected them.

[00:24:29] They actually pulled part of their culture in so many different aspects of our our history.

[00:24:36] And what's so fascinating, too, as you are talking about having faith, those different tribes, when you go back and you read all of their all of their histories that they have passed down verbally.

[00:24:49] Right.

[00:24:49] There's always a common thread of creation and of basically God visiting them.

[00:24:56] Yeah.

[00:24:56] And it has been moneyed over time, but it is always that thread in their tapestry.

[00:25:00] And it is the common thread throughout every single culture, both in Native Americans and worldwide.

[00:25:07] Yeah.

[00:25:07] Clear down to South America all over the place.

[00:25:09] I so appreciate that you said that.

[00:25:11] Thank you so much.

[00:25:12] All right.

[00:25:13] Duke.

[00:25:14] That's great stuff.

[00:25:14] Absolutely.

[00:25:15] What we keep hearing from our progressives is that everybody, all cultures aren't the same.

[00:25:22] The multiculturalists want to pretend that all cultures are the same.

[00:25:25] And then when they get your kids to believe that because it's not true, then they turn around and say, and if all cultures are equal, that means that America and the West has to be bad and less equal because they seem to have conquered more than other cultures, which is a lie in itself.

[00:25:42] Yeah.

[00:25:43] So, yes, I mean, the left wants to have these two contradictory worldviews.

[00:25:47] All cultures are equally the same, which is demonstrably not true.

[00:25:51] And if all of them are the same, then the only bad ones are Western ones because they colonized and waged war.

[00:25:59] And that's the that's the deception that you've been talking about for the last hour and a half, I think.

[00:26:05] Oh, for sure.

[00:26:06] And, you know, when you're looking back, you know, even the royals, when the royals ruled over everybody, they thought that they were being positioned by God.

[00:26:14] They thought that it was coming from God and that they were put in charge and that this was a God ordained.

[00:26:21] And going back in history, somebody could make the case for what some of the bad things in our in the history, what religion has done to people.

[00:26:29] Right.

[00:26:30] But that's people hijacking that for their own personal gain, power, lies, whatever that is.

[00:26:36] And so that's people hijacking it, not necessarily God.

[00:26:41] And so when you look at that, you go, wow, our nation was founded on these principles.

[00:26:45] We have always been a people clear back to the dawn of time to Adam and Eve of people that that that looked to God, no matter it, no matter if somebody hijacked that or not for their for their own gain or whatever or abused it or whatever the case may be.

[00:27:02] They'll always be because of human nature, people that abuse things or or or do things with something that is good.

[00:27:08] So when when the left are trying to turn this into their leftist lie, they often will abuse religion and say that it was people that were religious that abused the Native Americans.

[00:27:23] Well, I'm sure there's there were some, but it wasn't it doesn't go back to the truth of the matter.

[00:27:28] And the truth of the matter is, is that there has always been a God fearing, God loving people that have lived on this world.

[00:27:35] So and when we talk about our country, too, same thing.

[00:27:39] I tell you, I tell you, I tell my university kids every every semester, 98 percent of the people probably higher that have lived on this planet have believed in God or God.

[00:27:50] There are no cultures in the history of the world as far as we know, not not one that was conceived in the idea of atheism.

[00:27:58] Right. So, I mean, when we teach at public universities and public schools, we are teaching kids that religion had no serious role to play, that culture is better off without God.

[00:28:13] When the reality is and when we teach them history, we don't talk about the role that God played in those cultures.

[00:28:20] Right. Why things were done because of what people believed in and the gods that they followed.

[00:28:26] And so we have sterilized culture from God, even though, as I said before, well over ninety nine percent of people who've ever lived believed in something.

[00:28:37] And so the kids are getting a worldview that makes you superior if you're an atheist, if you're a skeptic.

[00:28:44] But there's no evidence when you go back down through history of the great achieve.

[00:28:49] Most of the great achievements of humanity have come from religious cultures.

[00:28:53] So true. And by the way, when we're talking about when we're talking about Columbus and the lie is presented to your children in public government school and all over the press and in the media and so forth as a given, which it's not.

[00:29:08] It's a lie that Christopher Columbus came over ready to murder people and that he was a murdering thug.

[00:29:14] Look at all the inventory on the ship. OK, if you want to go murder a lot of people that live in a land, you are not going to take a few supplies to possibly defend yourself against who's ever going to be there because you don't know the situation you're walking into.

[00:29:30] But they didn't come ready to do battle. It wasn't about that.

[00:29:34] And so even going back to the core of that lie, they didn't come over here just to murder people or murder people.

[00:29:42] It was about discovery and it was about discovering a land in which people had already inhabited.

[00:29:48] So but we didn't.

[00:29:50] But isn't that the history of the world, Kate?

[00:29:53] Yes, that's what I was just getting to.

[00:29:55] Yes, everybody has warred for territory.

[00:29:58] The Aztecs warred for territory, but we don't sit and annihilate them and say they're that that this people that warred over this land.

[00:30:06] We don't do the same thing to them that we do to us, the white man over coming here.

[00:30:12] Right. So all land and all territory going back all in time has always been warred over and won.

[00:30:19] Correct. To your point to your point about a small band of three ships coming over here to conquer our continent.

[00:30:26] Think about it. It worked the other way.

[00:30:30] When Europeans went down to Africa, you think these white dudes were wandering into the deep forests of Africa with all the strange animals and the malaria?

[00:30:43] No, they showed up on the coast and every single slave that was taken was taken because they were first enslaved by black rulers in Africa.

[00:30:56] So, again, the idea that one slave ship pulls up somewhere on East Africa and wanders into the into the woods with a couple of guns and horses and drags out millions of slaves is BS.

[00:31:11] I know.

[00:31:11] These black people were enslaved by warring African tribes.

[00:31:16] They were fighting over land and real estate and religion.

[00:31:20] They were fighting for the same thing the Europeans were fighting for.

[00:31:23] And those slaves were dragged out of the of the Savannah by black leaders and dumped onto white slave ships.

[00:31:31] It's the same. You flip it over to the other side of the Atlantic.

[00:31:34] You get the same story.

[00:31:35] Slavery was a worldview and it was a world custom that we actually in our country eradicated within 80 years, which was triumphant.

[00:31:43] But we get no credit for it as if we were the only slaveholders in America or that were here.

[00:31:50] Right. And in the world.

[00:31:51] And the other thing is, this is, you know, that the English fought over, fought the Scots for land and all kinds of wars have occurred.

[00:31:59] But this is the only one where they demonize the people coming over here as wars had always been fought.

[00:32:06] But the demonization, they had to have the demonization.

[00:32:10] Why?

[00:32:10] So they could ruin the gift that this country was from God.

[00:32:15] Well, they could think about it.

[00:32:17] The only people in the world today who are demonized for holding slaves are the very cultures that legally got rid of it.

[00:32:25] All right.

[00:32:26] Well, I'll be right back.

[00:32:27] We'll be right back.

[00:32:28] The only ones you're allowed to demonize are the ones who actually ended it.

[00:32:32] Yeah, you're right.

[00:32:33] A hundred percent.

[00:32:34] These are the kinds of things that should be taught to our kids this week.

[00:32:38] Right.

[00:32:38] Because they're getting a whole load of other junk in the government schools.

[00:32:41] Be right back to finish up with Dr. Duke Pesta.

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[00:34:36] I was talking to Dr. Pesta on the break.

[00:34:39] And the reason I have never in 14 years really brought up the Book of Mormon on the show because I just did not want to just toss my faith out there.

[00:34:46] And I didn't want to have people thinking that I was trying to impress my faith upon them.

[00:34:50] But one of the most interesting things about the Book of Mormon is that it's a history of the Native American ancestors of like, say, some of the Hopewell Indians from Illinois and Ohio.

[00:35:02] And there's all kinds of ancestry stories going on in this book.

[00:35:09] And people will say, well, if I go read that book, yeah, you guys aren't Christian.

[00:35:13] You're not about Christ.

[00:35:14] Yes, the book is about it's literally about Christ.

[00:35:16] It's literally about about him.

[00:35:19] And so it only strengthens my testimony of him.

[00:35:22] And that's why I read the Bible and the Book of Mormon, because it's a history of the people here as opposed to across the pond.

[00:35:27] People don't get that.

[00:35:29] They don't even want to know that.

[00:35:30] And so I'm clearing up that fallacy for everybody.

[00:35:33] It is about Christ.

[00:35:34] And so I get really frustrated when I get emails from people telling me they have to save me.

[00:35:40] And I'm like, I don't need it.

[00:35:41] Hello, I'm about Christ.

[00:35:43] So the reason I say that, too, is because the book was about the unfaithful, basically overtaking the faithful.

[00:35:53] OK, you had the unfaithful.

[00:35:54] You had the horrible Native Americans overtaking the faithful ones.

[00:35:59] How did they do it?

[00:36:01] And that's in this book.

[00:36:02] How did they do it?

[00:36:03] Because it's being done to us right now.

[00:36:06] It's the biggest lesson that we could learn right now if we're going to talk Indians and we're going to talk Thanksgiving and pilgrims and be all cutesy about it.

[00:36:15] Go beyond cutesy and actually look at the history of these people so that we can actually learn something and learn some truth.

[00:36:22] And so that's why I bring it up.

[00:36:24] How is your faith?

[00:36:25] How has your faith affected your worldview?

[00:36:27] The first thing I want to say is that when you study all human culture, you realize that human beings have way more in common than we don't.

[00:36:36] And one of the great commonalities of every human group is a hardwired need, anthropologically hardwired need to believe in something bigger than us.

[00:36:46] And that seems to be universal.

[00:36:48] And what I love about the founding fathers and my faith is that I live in a culture and always have where I can be faithful to my beliefs and still not be canceled or removed from or persecuted for believing what I believe.

[00:37:06] And I think that's this is the first country in the history of the world that was created and dedicated to that idea that you are free to believe in your conscience, whatever you like or nothing at all.

[00:37:18] And that should not change how we approach government or our jobs or education or any other aspect of our culture.

[00:37:27] So for me, what I find endlessly redeeming about the United States and the way it was founded and the way it's conducted itself in spite of having done, like any other culture, horrible things.

[00:37:39] It's also the enduring things that we've done.

[00:37:43] There's the first country in the history of the world that enshrined the right of individuals to defend themselves from government, to give us a Second Amendment.

[00:37:51] The freedom.

[00:37:52] The first thing that we read about is freedom of religion, not even free speech.

[00:37:59] It go right before in the First Amendment that and to me, that's the core, the foundation of Americans, America's genius.

[00:38:06] Yes.

[00:38:07] Amen to that.

[00:38:08] So so communism slash globalism, because it's really and truly about the same idea.

[00:38:13] OK, is all of it's it's very sophisticated and it's godless.

[00:38:20] And it it will too many seem like, oh, what a nice idea.

[00:38:24] And everyone can be of one voice and one this and one that.

[00:38:27] But you just mentioned something very critical where we where we join hands in America, where this melting pot became one.

[00:38:35] Was in the idea of having individual freedom to believe or to think or to say.

[00:38:42] So it was about the individual getting to decide that, which is anti communism, anti globalism, which is very much the idea of America.

[00:38:52] What's happening to America?

[00:38:53] We're getting overtaken by communism and globalism.

[00:38:56] And in this idea that unity where you shut up and you only go with the one thought is the new America based on unity, where we all join hands.

[00:39:05] That isn't where we join hands.

[00:39:06] We only join hands in supporting the idea of everybody having their own individual thoughts, ideas and religions and faith.

[00:39:14] That's what it's about.

[00:39:16] Well, yes.

[00:39:17] And I tell my university kids one more thing I tell my university kids every semester.

[00:39:22] It wasn't even possible to have an atheist culture, a culture dominated by by materialism and atheism until after 1850.

[00:39:31] You got Marx in 1848.

[00:39:33] You got Darwin in 1859.

[00:39:36] And by the time you get to 1917, we actually have our first government that is was conceived in atheism.

[00:39:43] And there are only three forms of government really that have came into human society since atheism has been possible.

[00:39:53] And they are fascism, communism and socialism.

[00:39:57] Yep.

[00:39:57] Think about that for a second.

[00:39:58] There are everything else existed before.

[00:40:01] The only really new forms of government since atheism became ascendant would be fascism and socialism.

[00:40:08] And they are both reasonably socialism is absolutely godless.

[00:40:13] And so is socialism.

[00:40:14] It's materialist philosophy that don't worry about heaven because there isn't one.

[00:40:19] Let's make Earth.

[00:40:21] Let's turn this world into a heaven.

[00:40:24] And that's why you remember Reagan famously said, yes, why is it that Soviet countries have to keep people inside with guns?

[00:40:34] We have to keep people out with guns.

[00:40:37] And that's because of the fundamental, fundamental difference between believing cultures and materialist atheist cultures.

[00:40:44] And again, if the only really forms of government have evolved since atheism took over, well, then they're also the most murderous ideologies in the history of the world.

[00:40:54] Fascism and socialism.

[00:40:56] Amen.

[00:40:57] I couldn't say it better.

[00:40:58] So in this last little minute of the show, I just wanted to say, and I'll offer you 30 seconds too, I'm really grateful and thankful.

[00:41:04] And I'm not just for food and not just for gathering for a meal together for family, but for understanding history.

[00:41:10] And I have two books, the Book of Mormon and the Bible that I read that bring me closer to Christ.

[00:41:15] So therefore, I'm so grateful for those two books.

[00:41:17] I'm grateful for my family.

[00:41:19] Yes.

[00:41:20] And I'm grateful for God.

[00:41:21] Yes.

[00:41:22] And I'm grateful for all of those good things.

[00:41:24] And I'm grateful to be in this country.

[00:41:25] I truly am.

[00:41:26] And I'll fight for it.

[00:41:27] And I'll fight for everyone's faith and religion and whatever religion you are.

[00:41:31] I don't care.

[00:41:32] I will fight for the freedom of that.

[00:41:34] Dr. Pester, what are you grateful for?

[00:41:35] 30 seconds.

[00:41:36] I'm grateful that the holiday of Thanksgiving was given to us by George Washington, the great founder and believer of our country, who got on his knees and prayed to God for guidance, who undertook a war in the name of God to free us and to create a society at which God is firmly at the center.

[00:41:58] That's Thanksgiving.

[00:41:59] Love it.

[00:42:00] And on that note, I'll be here tomorrow, but out the rest of the week.

[00:42:05] But I just wanted to make sure and talk about these things today.

[00:42:09] Very important to me.

[00:42:10] Thank you, Dr. Duke Pesta.

[00:42:11] Really appreciate you.

[00:42:13] And of course, I'll be back tomorrow.

[00:42:14] We'll take your calls on even what we talked about today.

[00:42:17] We can extend this conversation to tomorrow.

[00:42:19] And I'm happy to do it.

[00:42:20] Thank you.