[00:00:05] Free speech. It's more important than your feelings. The Kate Dalley Show starts now.
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[00:00:23] I'm Kate Dalley Show at your service today on a Friday, and I've got a great show ahead for you, of course.
[00:00:31] I have two wonderful guests in this hour, and each about 30 minutes, it'll be great.
[00:00:36] And then, talking about the JFK, the moment when the CIA said we're in control of the presidency, JFK moment.
[00:00:46] We're going to be talking about that and opening up the phone lines today.
[00:00:49] May even have a special guest on that, we'll see.
[00:00:52] And it's always fly by the seat of your pants in radio, in live radio across the nation.
[00:00:57] So glad to be with you today.
[00:00:58] And of course, my guest in this couple of segments of the show is fantastic.
[00:01:05] I met him a few years ago, and this is Dr. Rick Becker from North Dakota.
[00:01:11] And I'm so excited to invite you on because this is a topic that should be talked about all over the nation right now, but it's not.
[00:01:18] And we're going to do just that.
[00:01:21] So, Rick, welcome to the show.
[00:01:23] How are you?
[00:01:24] I'm doing great, Kate.
[00:01:25] Thanks for having me on.
[00:01:26] You got it.
[00:01:27] Okay.
[00:01:28] You are an outspoken voice.
[00:01:30] I love this about you, by the way.
[00:01:32] Ten years as a state legislator in North Dakota.
[00:01:36] And North Dakota just did something that, again, surprises me, but it shouldn't because even in my own community, we're stupid enough to vote ourselves our own taxation.
[00:01:45] So I don't know what else to say other than you just almost can't believe that this is the American mindset.
[00:01:53] But tell us what happened in North Dakota just recently, some legislation that was rejected.
[00:02:01] Right.
[00:02:01] So we had a measure, rather, a constitutional measure that went to a vote of the people.
[00:02:07] And in the measure, there was substantial property tax relief and property tax reform.
[00:02:14] Now, the reform, well, first of all, the position we had, we supporters, organizers for this, had about property tax is that it is a really rotten tax.
[00:02:26] It sort of undermines everything that's so important about a free society.
[00:02:31] The biggest underpinning of a free society is property, property rights, ownership of property.
[00:02:38] And if the government can come and take away property that you paid for because you can't afford the ever-increasing annual rent, also known as property tax, that's just not right.
[00:02:50] And it's tied to valuations, which, interestingly, is effectively a tax on unrealized gains.
[00:02:59] You know, the very plan that Kamala wanted to impose on the United States if she got elected.
[00:03:04] And so it's really bad economically.
[00:03:07] It's bad morally.
[00:03:08] I mean, the idea that someone on a fixed income could be forced to move out of their home because they can't afford the increasing cost.
[00:03:17] And in large part, that is because of valuations.
[00:03:21] If you happen to live in an area that's a developing area, your valuations go up higher and higher and higher.
[00:03:27] Well, you didn't necessarily do anything to your house, and yet you're paying more taxes.
[00:03:32] But then if you complain to your city or county commissioners, they say, hey, it's not us.
[00:03:36] Your house is increased in value.
[00:03:38] So there's no responsibility.
[00:03:40] There's no holding your local elected officials accountable.
[00:03:43] It's just wrong in so many ways.
[00:03:46] And then the other thing is that it's a tax that many people don't really understand.
[00:03:51] And frankly, Kate, I don't know how all the other states do it, but we have what's called a mill levy here.
[00:03:55] So they convert the valuation into a mill levy, which is a fraction one one thousandth of the budget, and then they reapply it.
[00:04:05] Effectively, nobody knows how it actually works.
[00:04:08] So it's their own version of girl math.
[00:04:11] Yeah.
[00:04:12] It's like their own made up version of math.
[00:04:16] Right?
[00:04:17] Exactly.
[00:04:18] But it's crazy, the idea that one of the three biggest ways we're taxed and the only way in which you can lose your home, you don't actually understand how it works.
[00:04:27] And how can you have agency?
[00:04:29] How can you be an advocate for yourself if you don't understand how the tax works?
[00:04:33] So with that in mind, we put forth this measure for people to vote on, and it did reform things.
[00:04:39] It moved away from valuation.
[00:04:41] It allowed the locals to still do taxing for the services that they provide because the local city and counties do provide some services that are necessary.
[00:04:51] Fire and police, streets, what have you.
[00:04:55] And so we weren't trying to get a free ride out of it, but we were like, you know what, there's a better way.
[00:05:01] And we have to think outside the box, and it can be a fee for service or an annual municipal operations tax, whatever it might be.
[00:05:09] Let's move away from valuations and mill levies.
[00:05:11] And then the other thing for North Dakota, we are probably the richest state per capita with all the oil that we have, and we're a very small population.
[00:05:20] We only have about 780,000 people in the state.
[00:05:23] And so we had the opportunity for the state with their enormous revenues that they're spending in all sorts of crazy ways to say, you know what, we're going to replace everyone's property tax payments at the current level forevermore.
[00:05:39] And we could have done that.
[00:05:40] We showed how the state could have afforded that actually quite easily.
[00:05:44] But it got voted down, Kate, voted down on handily.
[00:05:48] I mean, I know I'm serious.
[00:05:49] I want that to register with everybody.
[00:05:52] They voted it down so that these counties could still get away with this, that they could still partake in the way they've been doing things and basically screwing us over, and especially there in North Dakota.
[00:06:06] And they actually voted it down so that they could keep on screwing North Dakotans over, which is so amazing.
[00:06:12] But this is what they did in my community.
[00:06:14] They have what's called a wrap tax in my community, and they wanted people to vote for it not only once but twice.
[00:06:20] And I guess we're that stupid.
[00:06:21] So what happens is they actually provide, out of the tax money, the ability to market to us for it, right?
[00:06:30] And so, yeah, you want to tax yourself.
[00:06:32] This is a beautiful thing.
[00:06:33] You're going to get pickleball courts.
[00:06:34] You're going to get all this stuff, you know?
[00:06:37] So they use our own money that we never consent to, to market to us, to get us to approve of this sham marketing.
[00:06:47] This is how vile my county is.
[00:06:49] This is how vile the politicians are.
[00:06:51] To be able to market this idea to us that we want to tax ourselves again.
[00:06:56] Do they do this in North Dakota as well?
[00:06:58] Yes.
[00:06:59] Yes, absolutely.
[00:07:00] Absolutely.
[00:07:01] So the supporters of the measure, we raised about $150,000.
[00:07:05] You know, it's pretty paltry, but when it's a grassroots volunteer, that's kind of how it tends to work.
[00:07:10] Right.
[00:07:10] The opposition, which was all of the lobbyist groups in North Dakota and some big ones nationally, raised $2 million.
[00:07:18] Now, North Dakota's media markets, $2 million is huge.
[00:07:22] Huge.
[00:07:23] Huge.
[00:07:23] And so they, they had this campaign of fear.
[00:07:26] They made everyone believe that if measure, it was measure four.
[00:07:30] If measure four passed, they were going to have to lay off teachers, close schools, fire the police, police officers.
[00:07:39] Everything was, you know, going to go, go away as far as life as we knew it.
[00:07:43] And they, they had enough money to reinforce and keep repeating this idea.
[00:07:49] And many of these organizations, these lobbying groups do get money from the state.
[00:07:54] So yes, our tax dollars, just as you said, were being used to manipulate us into paying out more in taxes.
[00:08:03] It's the craziest thing.
[00:08:05] It's, it's, it's just rotten.
[00:08:07] I don't know.
[00:08:07] With fear tactics.
[00:08:08] With fear tactics.
[00:08:09] Total fear.
[00:08:10] Yes.
[00:08:10] I, I don't know of a county commissioner that's honest.
[00:08:13] I, I have horrifying ones in my own community and they screw the people over all the time
[00:08:18] and they're for censorship and it's tough.
[00:08:20] It's tough to get people to see it.
[00:08:22] And, and I, I know this is going on in every county in America.
[00:08:25] I live in Washington County, Utah.
[00:08:27] It's the same thing here.
[00:08:28] And that's why I also wanted you to come on is because they're, they deploy dirty tricks.
[00:08:34] They're horrifying and they're able to get away with it.
[00:08:37] And the people, are we just too dense?
[00:08:39] Do we just buy into it too easy?
[00:08:41] What happened to our American spirit?
[00:08:43] Our American spirit of freedom.
[00:08:45] Oh my gosh.
[00:08:46] Where did it go?
[00:08:48] Yeah.
[00:08:49] I, I, I am very worried about that because it seems to, it seems that we never learn,
[00:08:55] right?
[00:08:56] If, if, if there is a, a, an effort, a, a narrative that's being pushed by government,
[00:09:02] whether it's local or state or national, we seem to fall for it.
[00:09:06] And you would think, especially after COVID that we'd be like, you know what?
[00:09:10] Maybe, maybe what these guys are saying should be looked at a little bit more carefully.
[00:09:16] Maybe we shouldn't take it at face value.
[00:09:17] Right.
[00:09:18] You know, it's funny because, uh, the papers, the, the media pundits, all the bought and
[00:09:22] sold conservative talk show hosts across the nation.
[00:09:25] And boy, is there so many, uh, 99% by the way, but that's a whole nother show.
[00:09:29] Um, so what they do is they focus on, we called her Hormala on the show cause she's that horrific,
[00:09:35] but Hormala, she's really proud of how she got up in politics, but Hormala.
[00:09:40] And they would talk about her nationally and put, and, and, and, oh, how horrific look what
[00:09:45] she wants to do with, with, with gains and look what she wants to do, but never dial it down to
[00:09:51] what they do in the same way locally, like you said before.
[00:09:55] And then we do not get the comparisons.
[00:09:57] We do not get the knowledge and the facts, and we should be able to derive that ourselves because
[00:10:01] we're thinking Americans.
[00:10:03] We should be thinking Americans, but we can look at it on a national stage, but never on
[00:10:07] our own County stage about how bought and sold these, these politicians really are.
[00:10:12] And the dirty deeds that they do in every County.
[00:10:14] Cause if you took over 3000, just over 3000 counties in America, you could actually save
[00:10:19] the country.
[00:10:20] If we were smart enough to stop buying into what the counties present us all across the
[00:10:26] country.
[00:10:26] Right?
[00:10:28] Absolutely.
[00:10:29] Well, I think that is the only way to save our country.
[00:10:31] I've been thinking about this a lot is, is to decentralize, to give more power to the
[00:10:36] States, but then you take it even a step further and you're right on that County level, especially
[00:10:40] when you look at it from a point of law and order, the, the sheriff, you know, we, I've
[00:10:46] often heard, you know, the sheriff is really the key, the key person to all this.
[00:10:50] And because the sheriff is elected by the people and represents the people, but it's
[00:10:55] decentralization and trying to take more control locally, I think is, is the answer.
[00:11:00] Yes.
[00:11:01] And I would actually be real, really on the alert with your sheriff, because like in my
[00:11:06] community, what the parties do is we're, we're, we're thought of as a red state.
[00:11:11] We're not, we have an identity crisis, but we, we think we are.
[00:11:14] And the sheriffs, what happens is the parties go and they wrap their little arms around the
[00:11:19] sheriff and they give them a little massage and they're rubbing their neck and they're
[00:11:23] just so cozy.
[00:11:24] And then all of a sudden you see that the sheriff goes along with everything the party wants
[00:11:28] and the tribe of the party usually is to our destruction.
[00:11:32] I don't care what side of the aisle it's to the, our destruction.
[00:11:35] And so what happens is, is you got a sheriff out there like mine that that's campaigning
[00:11:40] for the party.
[00:11:41] And usually it's not, not good, no matter what party it is.
[00:11:45] So this is happening in counties all over the country.
[00:11:48] We have to get good sheriffs elected that actually will stand independent from the party
[00:11:52] system.
[00:11:52] Yes.
[00:11:54] Absolutely.
[00:11:55] Well, right.
[00:11:55] And when we have unjust state laws or federal laws that that county sheriff suddenly becomes
[00:12:02] extremely important.
[00:12:03] You're right.
[00:12:04] They are, they are the, what stands between us and, and tyranny.
[00:12:09] The mechanism and that mechanism of, of safety of freedom, because they do have that much
[00:12:14] power.
[00:12:15] They can act that independently, but they are so controlled by the parties.
[00:12:19] And I've noticed that in my own community, maybe in yours that I'm, and you just hope
[00:12:23] and wish that that's not the case when push comes to shove.
[00:12:26] But I think down deep inside people know it because they can see it, right?
[00:12:29] It's a visual thing.
[00:12:30] We're going to go to a break.
[00:12:32] We'll be right.
[00:12:32] I'll be right back with the great Dr.
[00:12:34] Rick Becker.
[00:12:35] Isn't he amazing?
[00:12:35] I hope he comes on my show more because we need him.
[00:12:38] He's such a great voice.
[00:12:39] And I love that he's speaking out about this and the insanity of taxing yourself after they're
[00:12:45] taxing us to the hilt.
[00:12:46] It's pretty amazing, isn't it?
[00:12:47] That we fall for it.
[00:12:49] Be right back with Dr.
[00:12:50] Rick Becker on katedallyradio.com.
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[00:14:23] Kate Daly show.
[00:14:25] And of course my guest, isn't he terrific?
[00:14:28] Dr.
[00:14:28] Rick Becker.
[00:14:29] And oh boy, will he be back on this show?
[00:14:31] Because we really need his voice out there and his ideas are so impactful.
[00:14:38] And I'm so proud of him for trying, trying to get people to wake up to their own taxation
[00:14:44] horror story.
[00:14:45] And North Dakota rejected it.
[00:14:47] They want to, they want people to take their money, I guess.
[00:14:51] Um, so it's, and you know what, it's not just North Dakota, it's everywhere.
[00:14:55] And that's what this show tries to showcase is everybody concentrates on national, national,
[00:15:00] national.
[00:15:01] No, it's local how you save your country.
[00:15:04] It isn't national.
[00:15:05] And so Dr.
[00:15:06] Rick Becker, what do you want people to know?
[00:15:09] Um, what are some of your thoughts about this?
[00:15:11] I know this is going to be a short segment of the show.
[00:15:13] So, um, what do you want people to concentrate on?
[00:15:16] Well, I think the big thing is we have to be in control of, of our destiny.
[00:15:21] We can't expect local elected officials or statewide or national, uh, to, to do right
[00:15:27] by us when it comes to being prudent with our, with our tax dollars.
[00:15:31] I mean, the money we pay in is, is our time and our effort and our life, and they should
[00:15:37] value it more than they do.
[00:15:38] So we have to take control of that ourselves.
[00:15:41] And with property tax in particular, I, again, as I said earlier, I think it's an immoral
[00:15:46] tax.
[00:15:47] They should never ever should you have to worry about losing your home because of the inability
[00:15:51] to pay increasing taxes.
[00:15:53] So I think we need to think outside the box, uh, and think of other ways to tax and realize
[00:15:59] that we are getting services locally.
[00:16:01] We need to pay for those services, but we don't need to pay for crazy things like the so-called
[00:16:05] economic development or.
[00:16:07] And pools and rec centers and, and golf courses and pickleball courts.
[00:16:12] And I mean, you can't even believe this stuff.
[00:16:15] I mean, I know you can, cause you've been a legislator for 10 years, but I bet you're
[00:16:18] just horrified by what cities think they have to implement and then compete with capitalism.
[00:16:25] People should be able to, if somebody wants to own a pool and it's profitable, they'll do
[00:16:29] it.
[00:16:29] You don't need the city to do it and then take our money from us and milk off the top.
[00:16:34] Exactly.
[00:16:34] And so when you say, what can we do about it?
[00:16:37] Well, I think that despite the fact it was a, we, we failed in North Dakota, that was all
[00:16:42] about money and all about lobbyists.
[00:16:44] So there's ways to get around that, but not only just bringing bills and legislation and
[00:16:49] so forth, but actually being involved when, you know, when I hear you talk, it sounds
[00:16:53] that you have the same sentiment.
[00:16:55] I do these local elected officials.
[00:16:57] When you think about it, why are they there?
[00:17:00] They have a tendency to be people who think about how they can spend money, that they have
[00:17:04] good ideas and they're very creative and they're energized at the idea of spending money.
[00:17:09] We need people who are your listeners, for example, who think about things differently
[00:17:14] and think about saving money and not spending money as their starting point.
[00:17:19] And so we need people to become involved and run for office and, and go to their meetings
[00:17:25] and we need to become more involved locally, Kate.
[00:17:27] And that's the only way we take it back.
[00:17:29] And it's so much easier to say than to do, but you have to actually, you know, stop that
[00:17:34] Netflix series binging and get off your couch and, and go to a, go to a commission meeting.
[00:17:40] It is so true.
[00:17:42] Oh my gosh.
[00:17:42] They need to stand there in front of the people and the people have to stop, you know, you
[00:17:48] know, trying to butter up to them, right.
[00:17:50] For some sort of favor.
[00:17:52] And we have to actually look them in the eye and go, what are you doing to us?
[00:17:56] And these people think they can get away with it.
[00:17:59] They think they've got power and they think that they can censor people like me.
[00:18:03] And they think that they can do all of these things.
[00:18:05] And it's horrific, the situation that we're in right now, and they're using our money against
[00:18:10] us.
[00:18:11] And so this is why you've got to bring that measure back.
[00:18:13] And I think it's changing the mindset of the people to actually see what their own politicians
[00:18:19] with a big old smile on their face, creepy smile are doing to them.
[00:18:23] And it's a little bit of the, you know, with a knife in the back.
[00:18:27] And so we have to realize this.
[00:18:29] We're not realizing it's our mindset because those people could have said yes to this measure.
[00:18:35] Yep.
[00:18:36] Exactly right.
[00:18:37] Exactly right.
[00:18:38] We need to be involved.
[00:18:39] We need to be educated and no one's responsible for that except ourselves.
[00:18:42] Yep.
[00:18:43] We're going to have to bring more media.
[00:18:44] We're going to have to own radio stations.
[00:18:46] We're going to have to bring media to the people that actually describes the truth about
[00:18:50] what's going on instead of a distraction to everything being national.
[00:18:54] And that's on us.
[00:18:56] And we just don't do.
[00:18:57] We don't, we don't do enough.
[00:18:58] We don't use billboards.
[00:19:00] We don't do enough to actually put messages out there.
[00:19:02] And we're going to have to educate because the, I think the founders would be rolling in their
[00:19:07] graves at this point to think that we would actually prefer somebody taxing us to the hilt
[00:19:13] and robbing us of our money and then saying and pointing a finger and going, oh, that Kamala.
[00:19:18] It's like, we're, we're actually ponying ourselves up for this.
[00:19:22] It's a nightmare.
[00:19:25] So anyway, I, so thank you for this.
[00:19:27] I really appreciate you.
[00:19:28] And Rick, Dr. Rick Becker of North Dakota.
[00:19:31] Thank you.
[00:19:32] I'll have you back very soon.
[00:19:34] Appreciate you.
[00:19:35] Thank you.
[00:19:35] Yeah.
[00:19:36] Thanks.
[00:19:36] It was fun to be on.
[00:19:37] I appreciate it.
[00:19:37] You bet.
[00:19:38] And I'll be right back with Eric Peters.
[00:19:40] Don't go anywhere.
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[00:22:45] Got a special guest, Eric Peters from Eric Peters autos.
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[00:23:07] So welcome back to the show.
[00:23:09] And I've got Eric Peters on.
[00:23:11] Eric, how are you?
[00:23:13] I'm good.
[00:23:14] Thanks for having me on.
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[00:24:12] Eric Peters, I want to know what's been on your mind.
[00:24:14] You're a great voice of reason out there and I love your website.
[00:24:17] It talks about cars.
[00:24:19] It talks about libertarian politics.
[00:24:21] I mean, you've just, you've got such a great site.
[00:24:23] Eric Peters Autos.
[00:24:25] Thank you.
[00:24:25] You bet.
[00:24:26] What's been on your mind lately?
[00:24:29] Well, let's see.
[00:24:30] I guess let's start with the important one.
[00:24:31] And I'm obviously glad that Trump has won the election.
[00:24:36] I was encouraged by what he said prior to the election.
[00:24:40] Now, the thing that's on my mind is whether he's going to act on what he said, specifically
[00:24:44] with regard to some of the regulations that have been crippling the car industry and making
[00:24:48] life so miserable for car buyers.
[00:24:50] Okay.
[00:24:51] Let's talk about it.
[00:24:53] What's on your mind?
[00:24:54] Yeah.
[00:24:55] Yeah.
[00:24:55] Well, let's start with the EV thing.
[00:24:57] And this is particularly interesting because, of course, Elon Musk has become one of his
[00:25:01] big backers and is even part of the administration now.
[00:25:05] And Elon Musk has benefited greatly from the federal favoritism that has been extended to
[00:25:10] electric vehicles and also has benefited by the regulations that have made it very difficult
[00:25:17] for the other manufacturers to continue building alternatives to electric cars.
[00:25:22] Trump has signaled that he's going to do something about that in two ways, potentially.
[00:25:26] One, by changing or hopefully getting rid of the federal fuel economy mandates that are
[00:25:32] on deck to go up to 50 miles per gallon, if you can imagine that.
[00:25:35] The only way that can be complied with is with some type of either entirely electric or partially
[00:25:41] electric vehicle like a hybrid.
[00:25:42] So it serves as an effective EV mandate.
[00:25:45] That's one thing.
[00:25:46] The other thing is the way that carbon dioxide has been framed as a pollutant, as an emission.
[00:25:52] And I think he really needs to address that.
[00:25:54] That's been used as a cudgel, again, to favor electric vehicles and to push the alternatives
[00:26:00] to electric vehicles off the market.
[00:26:02] So I'm hoping he's going to do something about that.
[00:26:05] There's another thing I'd like for him to do, too, which would be to make cars affordable
[00:26:09] again.
[00:26:10] Right.
[00:26:10] I did a piece the other day about some of the cars that are available outside of the
[00:26:13] United States that can't be allowed inside the United States, which is outrageous.
[00:26:19] There's a model Toyota makes called the Hilux Champ, and it's basically a stripped down
[00:26:24] version of the Toyota 4Runner and Tacoma.
[00:26:27] But instead of costing $30,000 or $40,000, it costs $13,000.
[00:26:31] Wouldn't it be great if Americans could buy a vehicle like that in this country?
[00:26:35] Mm-hmm.
[00:26:36] You know, isn't the EV market kind of like born to fail?
[00:26:40] I mean, isn't that the whole...
[00:26:41] They're pushing it, but at the same time, they know it would fail.
[00:26:45] We don't have infrastructure for that.
[00:26:47] We don't have a way to do that.
[00:26:48] And if they closed down vehicles, we would have...
[00:26:52] I mean, obviously, it would fail.
[00:26:54] I mean, look at the alternative of how we have to get those batteries charged.
[00:27:00] It wouldn't work.
[00:27:01] Do you think it's designed to fail from the beginning?
[00:27:04] Oh, yeah.
[00:27:05] I think it's...
[00:27:05] Fundamentally, this is a malicious thing.
[00:27:07] I don't think the people at the apex of this particular pyramid are idiots.
[00:27:12] I think they're well aware of the infrastructure problems.
[00:27:15] And in particular, I think they're well aware of the generating capacity problems.
[00:27:19] And it's even deeper than that.
[00:27:21] The entire way that electricity is transmitted across power lines, the way houses are wired,
[00:27:27] there simply isn't the ability to have an electric vehicle at every private house in this country.
[00:27:33] Leaving aside the cost, that just can't happen unless they completely change and replace the existing infrastructure.
[00:27:39] They know that.
[00:27:41] And that begs the question, well, why are they doing it?
[00:27:43] And the reason they're doing it is because they don't want most of us to own cars.
[00:27:47] Yes.
[00:27:47] They want only the very affluent people to own cars.
[00:27:50] And they want to be able to control the cars by rationing the energy through a centralized source.
[00:27:56] You know, the electricity grid is very centralized and they have control over it.
[00:28:00] That's ultimately what this whole thing is all about.
[00:28:02] So with Elon in the picture and making a big splash with Trump, I mean, he's got vested interest otherwise.
[00:28:10] So what do you think about Elon being in the mix with his Teslas and with all of the direction he's going in?
[00:28:17] I mean, it just seems a little strange.
[00:28:19] It does.
[00:28:20] He's a really enigmatic character.
[00:28:22] You know, on the one hand, he talks about free speech, for example.
[00:28:26] And if you get into the X thing, X is not a free speech platform.
[00:28:30] Yeah, you can post whatever you like.
[00:28:32] But if you're not paying him for the privilege and if you post things that are considered wrong, thankful by the algorithm.
[00:28:39] I know about this.
[00:28:40] This has happened to me personally.
[00:28:41] It's happened to John Rappaport.
[00:28:43] It's happened to Naomi Wolf.
[00:28:45] Those are just two people I happen to know it's happening to.
[00:28:47] Yeah.
[00:28:48] So, you know, it's disingenuous.
[00:28:50] And remember what happened in Brazil a little while ago?
[00:28:52] You know, the thugs over there, the Marxist thugs who took over the country said to him that, well, we demand that you censor certain political individuals that the government had an issue with.
[00:29:03] Initially, Elon Musk said, no, I'm not going to do that.
[00:29:05] You guys are a bunch of thugs.
[00:29:06] I'm a free speech guy.
[00:29:08] Right.
[00:29:08] But then apparently he pointed to Shekels and looked and thought, oh, boy, I'm going to lose a lot of money if I close X down in Brazil because the thugs are telling me I have to censor speech.
[00:29:17] So he kowtowed to it.
[00:29:18] He did what they wanted him to do.
[00:29:19] And that tells me that he would do it here, too.
[00:29:21] Why not?
[00:29:22] Right.
[00:29:23] That's so true.
[00:29:24] If you're on speakerphone, take me off a speaker.
[00:29:27] Just a little side note.
[00:29:29] Oh, OK.
[00:29:30] Hang on a sec.
[00:29:30] Oh, you bet.
[00:29:31] Thank you.
[00:29:32] I know that.
[00:29:34] Is that better?
[00:29:34] Yes.
[00:29:34] Thank you.
[00:29:35] Thank you so much.
[00:29:36] Sorry.
[00:29:36] I apologize for that.
[00:29:37] Oh, you're OK.
[00:29:37] You're OK.
[00:29:38] Thank you.
[00:29:38] I just I think most people aren't realizing there's such an end game here.
[00:29:43] And I look at the entire right left game as a uniparty.
[00:29:48] I wish more people would wake up to that and see the uniparty at work, because I think that people are very complacent right now.
[00:29:56] They're not understanding.
[00:29:57] They think everything's going to be great now as far as what they're doing with this.
[00:30:02] But but I I spoke yesterday about even under George H. Bush, they were pushing the carbon dividends, the carbon tax to fund the U.N.
[00:30:11] in the mid 90s.
[00:30:13] And so this is all individuals on the right that are doing this.
[00:30:17] Yeah, it's very important to hold these people's feet to the fire.
[00:30:20] I think it's a good way to understand this.
[00:30:22] You remember when, OK, we got Obamacare under Obama, obviously.
[00:30:25] And then Republicans, including Trump, talked about repealing Obamacare.
[00:30:30] Well, then that sort of morphed a little bit into repeal and replace.
[00:30:35] So there's you know, there's always this one step forward, one step back thing.
[00:30:39] It's not we're going to get the government out of health care.
[00:30:41] Oh, we have a better plan for how the government is going to run health care.
[00:30:44] That's that's the con that these people like to run.
[00:30:46] And so you're absolutely right about the uniparty, which is owned and bought and paid for by these vested interests.
[00:30:52] And that's who controls the government, not us.
[00:30:55] Yep. Amen.
[00:30:55] It's the Baker Schultz plan.
[00:30:57] And it's all about blaming the Dems for carbon tax gobbledygook, because we all know it's gobbledygook.
[00:31:05] And instead of saying that and instead of outing that, what they're doing is they're just going, OK, well, businesses can decide.
[00:31:12] And here's the here is the plan still in the infrastructure.
[00:31:15] We're just going to paint a different lipstick on it so that everyone thinks that we're saving the day when really we're behind this carbon taxation.
[00:31:24] That they're going to take off some of the mechanisms of the EPA.
[00:31:27] But that doesn't mean it's going away or doing anything.
[00:31:30] They're just replacing it.
[00:31:32] Yeah.
[00:31:32] And Elon Musk has publicly said that he's in favor of the carbon tax.
[00:31:36] So, OK, he's part of the administration now.
[00:31:38] So has he changed his view or is he there to persuade Donald Trump to impose a carbon tax on us?
[00:31:45] And I think that question is going to be answered pretty soon.
[00:31:47] You're right.
[00:31:48] We're going to come right back.
[00:31:49] I'm more with Eric Peters from Eric Peters Autos.
[00:31:53] All about cars.
[00:31:54] All about politics.
[00:31:55] You're going to love his website.
[00:31:57] Eric Peters Autos.
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[00:33:13] This is the Kate Daly Show.
[00:33:15] The tax man makes you pay.
[00:33:17] Let me be honest.
[00:33:24] Welcome back.
[00:33:25] You're listening to the Kate Daly Show.
[00:33:27] And thank you for tuning in because it's an important show.
[00:33:31] What can I say?
[00:33:32] We need to hear these things.
[00:33:33] And I have Eric Peters from Eric Peters Autos, one of my favorites.
[00:33:37] And he's got such a great website, politics and cars.
[00:33:41] I mean, you guys should be like, this is like a Christmas present for you guys out in America.
[00:33:47] Cars and politics, libertarian politics.
[00:33:50] I love it.
[00:33:51] And Eric is with me.
[00:33:52] And so we have a lot to chat about.
[00:33:54] And one of them is the digital currency because on this show, we've been really calling this
[00:34:01] out in a very honest way a year ago saying Trump will be put in.
[00:34:06] And then, of course, digital tyranny comes because this is the big hill to die on for those
[00:34:10] actually running the country.
[00:34:11] And I want to get your take on Bitcoin and where we stand with currency.
[00:34:17] Now, Trump's got a coin.
[00:34:18] And this is coming from somebody that actually, I actually like Trump, to tell you the truth.
[00:34:23] But it's not about Trump.
[00:34:25] It's about what's coming.
[00:34:26] And so Eric Peters is with me.
[00:34:28] Please talk about digital tyranny coming and what you see happening.
[00:34:34] Well, the inevitability of it.
[00:34:35] You know, I am not a fan of the Federal Reserve.
[00:34:37] I'm not a fan of fiat currency and paper money.
[00:34:40] But that said, digital money, Bitcoin, whatever you want to call it, is a mechanism of absolute
[00:34:47] total control that they could exert over us to micromanage literally everything that we do.
[00:34:52] We won't be able to anonymously buy a can of soda anymore.
[00:34:56] Everything would be recorded and potentially everything could be controlled.
[00:35:00] In countries like China, where they're doing this sort of thing, you're only allowed to
[00:35:04] buy if your social approval score is high enough.
[00:35:06] And this is the tool that they could use to impose their carbon rationing scheme.
[00:35:13] Oh, you know, you ate too much food this month.
[00:35:15] So next month, your food allotment will be less.
[00:35:17] You know, your digital currency will only allow you to buy so many things.
[00:35:22] You know, you've driven too many miles.
[00:35:24] So we're not going to allow you to buy more electricity this month.
[00:35:29] And, you know, Trump has publicly been kind of an advocate of this.
[00:35:33] And, you know, he's presenting it as, oh, look, this is liberating.
[00:35:35] It's freeing.
[00:35:36] It's decentralizing.
[00:35:37] It's nothing of the kind.
[00:35:37] I don't know.
[00:35:38] It's opaque, which is one of the things that really bothers me.
[00:35:41] I've yet to come across anybody who can simply explain to me, you know, I'm not an idiot.
[00:35:45] So I'm not Einstein.
[00:35:47] But what is what is the source of this Bitcoin?
[00:35:49] Where does it come from?
[00:35:50] Where is its value coming from?
[00:35:52] It makes no sense.
[00:35:54] And that concerns me.
[00:35:55] And I think the greater concern is that people are now kind of quiescent because they think,
[00:36:00] well, our guy is in there.
[00:36:02] You know, Donald Trump, he's going to make America great again.
[00:36:05] And they won't be as resistant to it if he's the guy who rolls it out as they might have been
[00:36:09] if it had been Kamala Harris who rolled it out.
[00:36:12] Yeah.
[00:36:14] Amen.
[00:36:15] And so how quickly do you think we'll lose the dollar?
[00:36:21] I know you don't have a crystal ball, but as you're looking at some of the things taking
[00:36:25] place and the way it's going, is this farther in?
[00:36:29] I mean, is this something that because I see how they're getting us used to not having actual
[00:36:36] money on us.
[00:36:37] I see that everything is a face ID.
[00:36:39] Now you try to pay on an account online.
[00:36:41] It's a face ID.
[00:36:42] Everything is going towards this, right?
[00:36:45] Anything else you're witnessing?
[00:36:46] Even to the extent of, let's say you want to go to a high school football game and you
[00:36:52] want to buy a ticket to that.
[00:36:53] You have to use an app.
[00:36:54] You can't use cash.
[00:36:55] You don't take cash anymore in a lot of these localities.
[00:36:58] And there are restaurants that will only allow you to use cash.
[00:37:02] And they tried to push this really hard during the so-called pandemic because money dirty,
[00:37:08] you know, can't touch money.
[00:37:09] Bad, bad, bad.
[00:37:10] You know, got to do contactless.
[00:37:12] And so, yeah, they're being quite aggressive about it.
[00:37:16] And it is extraordinarily worrisome because it would, for all practical purposes, eliminate
[00:37:22] any meaningful way to resist, say, another pandemic.
[00:37:26] You know, last time around, you could just insolently ignore it and go about your life.
[00:37:30] And you could transact business.
[00:37:31] You could buy things using cash.
[00:37:33] If they can control and turn off your ability to buy anything or to be paid literally, you
[00:37:38] click of a mouse, it's going to make it that much harder for us to do anything other than
[00:37:42] submit and obey them.
[00:37:43] Yeah.
[00:37:44] And one of the best things we could do is just keep using cash.
[00:37:47] Don't convert to the way they want us to do things because we're falling in line with
[00:37:53] it.
[00:37:53] We're going along with it because it's convenient.
[00:37:56] We got to stop with the whole convenience thing.
[00:37:58] Oh, yeah.
[00:37:59] Convenience is a narcotic.
[00:38:01] It is.
[00:38:01] How they got us, most of us, me included, I hate to admit it.
[00:38:04] Yeah.
[00:38:04] You know, walking around with essentially these tracking devices, right?
[00:38:07] You know, you've got a cell phone and it can keep track of your movements.
[00:38:11] It can keep track of your conversations.
[00:38:12] It mines your data.
[00:38:14] You know, all these things are oh so convenient.
[00:38:16] And, you know, there's the parallel that I draw.
[00:38:19] You know, whenever you see, you know, you walk into a grocery store and they have that
[00:38:22] big sign out in front and it says, free flu shot.
[00:38:25] If it's free, you should be suspicious.
[00:38:28] Exactly.
[00:38:28] When we came on to this first hour, there was a liner that I played and it was, you know,
[00:38:33] oh, I didn't play that when I played free speech.
[00:38:35] But there was one that says freedom or free stuff.
[00:38:38] And it's the truth that we always we we like free.
[00:38:42] We just love the word.
[00:38:43] And so do liberals.
[00:38:44] They love that word.
[00:38:46] But everything's at a cost, every single thing.
[00:38:49] And so by the way, here's something from the car world.
[00:38:52] A number of new vehicles that I've test driven recently.
[00:38:55] They no longer even have the fob, you know, the fob that has taken over from having a physical
[00:38:59] key that you would put into the ignition.
[00:39:01] Right.
[00:39:01] Now they have a little a little thing on the console or the steering wheel.
[00:39:05] You push your you touch it with your thumb and it takes your thumbprint or it can retinally scan you.
[00:39:10] Hyundai's Genesis line, their luxury line offers out on some of its vehicles.
[00:39:14] So, you know, now your car is being used as that.
[00:39:18] So it's like you have to use these nonphysical methods of interacting with these devices.
[00:39:22] And these devices are not under your control.
[00:39:25] It's entirely superficial.
[00:39:26] You're allowed to access and use them so long as you're a good old boy or girl.
[00:39:30] And when they decide to revoke the access, that's it.
[00:39:33] Oh, that just makes me sick.
[00:39:34] It makes me sick.
[00:39:35] We're minority report.
[00:39:36] We just don't even know it.
[00:39:38] Yeah, it's getting there.
[00:39:39] Very much so.
[00:39:41] Jeez.
[00:39:42] Well, with a minute and a half remaining, Eric, and I will have you I will have you back on because there's just so much to talk to you about.
[00:39:49] So World War Three in the minute and a half.
[00:39:52] What's your take on the World War Three talks?
[00:39:55] It doesn't seem like they really want that to happen.
[00:39:57] I think I you know, I'm not I'm not being a Putin poodle, but I think that Putin has shown remarkable restraint given what's happening.
[00:40:04] And I think these people are literally out of their freaking minds.
[00:40:07] You know, when I was a kid, remember the Cold War?
[00:40:09] Yeah, I wasn't particularly worried about it because I thought, OK, these people are at least adults and they're not insane and they don't want to burn the world to the ground.
[00:40:15] It seems now that there are people who are out of their minds and are willing to drag the world down if it's in some way a benefit to them as they see it.
[00:40:23] You know, I cannot I cannot get my head around it, except that it might be the thing that they need to create yet another crisis that they can exploit to further enslave us with.
[00:40:33] Yeah. Yeah.
[00:40:34] I think the Cold War was a cover for what the CIA was doing to us, but they had to give them some sort of job job to do.
[00:40:41] And I think it was definitely cover for that.
[00:40:44] Even though we were getting the infiltration of globalism, communism, but we always had been getting that.
[00:40:49] But I do think it was cover.
[00:40:51] I also I also look at this whole scenario and I am just hoping that we realize the rhetoric.
[00:40:57] You know, last December, the 12th or 13th, I can't remember which day I had a headline and it was Russia is loading the nukes.
[00:41:03] So we get this garbage like for 70 years.
[00:41:08] We're about on the verge of getting nuked.
[00:41:11] And I just wish we could see through that a little bit more.
[00:41:13] Yeah.
[00:41:14] Yeah, I know.
[00:41:15] And I just I do hope that things calm down and that cooler heads prevail.
[00:41:19] But it's worrisome.
[00:41:20] Yeah, I think there are a lot of demented people with their hands on levers that they ought not to have their hands on.
[00:41:26] Yeah.
[00:41:27] Eric Peters, Eric Peters Autos.
[00:41:30] That's with an S.
[00:41:31] EricPetersAutos.com.
[00:41:32] Thank you so much.
[00:41:34] I will have you back for sure.
[00:41:35] And of course, stay on the line for just a moment as we hit the break.
[00:41:39] And I'll come back.
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