[00:00:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The TV told me that if I eat bugs and pay more money to the government, my weather will be gooder.
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[00:00:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't let the media, the press, or your environment brainwash you.
[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a black-on-white thing. It's not a black-on-black thing, and it's not a gang-on-gang thing.
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[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_09]: All right. Love that.
[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I had to pre-record Dennis Prager because of some time constraints, and I so appreciate that because he wrote a wonderful book about the Book of Numbers and the five books of the Torah.
[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_09]: He's on number four, and we had a great consult about this book, so I'll share this interview with you.
[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_09]: And in the news today, it's so funny that the Ten Commandments in Louisiana, you know, what was the wording they used because, you know, they're trying to get it blocked from being shown in schools?
[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_09]: And it was that could isolate people that aren't Christian.
[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Really? Just because that's written there?
[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Somebody can't see it and just take it for what it is, even if they're not Christian?
[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, is it really going to have that kind of impact on people?
[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, come on. That's the argument?
[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_09]: So it could isolate people that aren't Christian.
[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, my gosh, you know, get used to seeing things that you might not be accustomed to.
[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_09]: God, you know, heaven forbid.
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_09]: It's pretty amazing.
[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Anyway, I'll talk about that more.
[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_09]: In fact, I'll take a lot of phone calls tomorrow.
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I'll also take phone calls.
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_09]: Tucker Carlson gave a speech in Georgia.
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Georgia.
[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Trump's going to be in Nevada tonight and or today.
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_09]: He's there right now.
[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_09]: And he's there with Tulsi, who I've had on the show and Charlie, who I've had on the show.
[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_09]: And they're all down in Nevada right now with Turning Point.
[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_09]: But he did the Turning Point in Georgia.
[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Tucker was there and spoke.
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_09]: And so I'll go through that tomorrow because I want to get your reaction to some of the things that were said.
[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_09]: And he had a lot of nice things to say, but I still want to get your reaction to those.
[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_09]: So on with Dennis Prager.
[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_09]: This is about his brand new book.
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_09]: And the Book of Numbers is a really interesting book because it really is about what happens when the people turn away from God.
[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_09]: In this case, the Israelites.
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_09]: What happens when they turn away from God?
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_09]: And we're finding that out, aren't we?
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_09]: It's a crazy situation here in the USA.
[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_09]: So let me let me play this for you.
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Here we go.
[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Dennis Prager is a New York Times bestselling author, nationally syndicated radio talk show host.
[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I know you've listened to him out there.
[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_09]: He writes a weekly column, more than 1,000 of which are available on the Internet.
[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_09]: And of course, you've taught religion history at Brooklyn College and taught the Torah verse by verse from the Hebrew for more than 25 years.
[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_09]: And in addition to the rational Bible, you're the author of Happiness to a Serious Problem, Still the Best Hope, While the World Needs American Values to Triumph.
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_09]: I totally agree.
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_09]: And Why the Jews, the Reason for Anti-Semitism, The Greatest Predictor of Human Evil.
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_09]: So many books to your credit.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_09]: So many writings to your credit.
[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_09]: The co-founder of Prager University.
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_09]: And with over a billion views a year.
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_09]: And so welcome to the show.
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_09]: I can't wait to talk about your new book.
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm always good.
[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_04]: It's always good to talk to you.
[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for having me.
[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely.
[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_09]: This book is the fourth book.
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_09]: This is the book of numbers.
[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_09]: And I love that you've done this.
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I think that there's definite reasons as to why to concentrate on this book for us now.
[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_09]: But we'll get into that.
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_09]: We'll talk about this.
[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_09]: The Rational Bible, Numbers, God and Man in the Wilderness.
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_09]: That's a really fitting title for this book, isn't it?
[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_09]: And the book of numbers.
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_09]: God and Man in the Wilderness.
[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, the Hebrew name for the fourth book of the Bible or the fourth book of the Torah, which is the first five books, is in the wilderness.
[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the name.
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Numbers is the English name.
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And to say the least, it's not particularly inviting.
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_09]: It's not.
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_09]: You're right.
[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_09]: No, you're right.
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_09]: It's not a book that you would pick out because it doesn't sound like something that you would want to read.
[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_09]: But this book contains the life lessons for us, does it not?
[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_09]: This is that book.
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, believe me, I would not have worked so much, so many years of my life devoted to explaining these five books if I didn't think they're life-changing.
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Everything ultimately emanates.
[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_05]: So my project has been a lifetime of teaching, 10 years of writing, a commentary, an explanation of the Torah, the first five books of the Bible.
[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's important that people realize that the whole Old Testament and New Testament, they're rooted in the Torah.
[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_05]: No Torah, no Old Testament, no New Testament.
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_05]: No Judaism, no Christianity.
[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Everything is there, basically.
[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_05]: The creation of the world, Adam and Eve, the Garden of Eden, the Ten Commandments, the Exodus from Egypt.
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Love your neighbor, love God, love the stranger.
[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, if you understand the first five books, you really do begin to understand what God wants, what the great wisdom of the Bible is about.
[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, all the books are great, but this is particularly unique.
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_05]: So the Israelites in the wilderness after being liberated from Egypt and its slavery.
[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And whenever I'm asked, you know, what are the major themes?
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Let me just make this point again.
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_05]: You can't really understand the Bible without somebody helping you to do so.
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_05]: It's sort of, I give my analogy, and it's not perfect, but it's good.
[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I work out three times a week, and if I didn't do it with a trainer, it would be useless.
[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, as soon as something was a little heavy, I would stop.
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I would walk around.
[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd meander.
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I need to know what to do.
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Somebody needs to help you along.
[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_05]: That's why there are so many Bible commentaries, for good reason.
[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_05]: But mine is called the rational Bible because I don't ask people to take anything on faith.
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I only use reason.
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_05]: If something doesn't make sense, then as I write in my introduction, then I have failed.
[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_05]: My task is to make sense of everything, even the most problematic parts of the Torah.
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what I try to do.
[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_05]: So this book has enormous lessons.
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_05]: By the way, again, one other introductory note.
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't matter if the reader begins with Genesis, Exodus, Deuteronomy, or Numbers.
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I haven't yet done Leviticus.
[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't matter.
[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_05]: They start wherever you want.
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just do numbers, and you'll be just fine.
[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_05]: None is dependent upon a previous volume.
[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not like a mystery thriller.
[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Right, right, right.
[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Not a trilogy or a book process that goes through.
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_05]: So I'll give you an example of an enormous lesson in the book.
[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_05]: It's life-changing as soon as one realizes this.
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And what do the Israelites do within months of escaping hundreds of years of slavery?
[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_05]: They complain that they want to go back to Egypt because the food was better.
[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's literally what they say.
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_05]: And the lesson is so important.
[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And that is, and I explain this at length in my commentary.
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_05]: It is not true that human beings yearn to be free.
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Human beings yearn to be taken care of.
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Oof.
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And that is the great lesson.
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_05]: There's no greater lesson vis-a-vis politics.
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_05]: That is why the left win all over the world.
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Because people are willing to trade in liberty for goodies, for benefits.
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the human condition.
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_05]: You give me free health care.
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_05]: You give me free daycare.
[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_05]: You give me free tuition.
[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_05]: And you feed my kids at school.
[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'll give you my liberties.
[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_05]: That's fine with most people.
[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Not all people, most people.
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's the great lesson here.
[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_05]: They were willing to return to slavery because they thought the food was better.
[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_09]: It sounds like the founders were well acquainted with this idea.
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_09]: They followed Moses.
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_09]: They understood the form of government to have a representation style government.
[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_09]: And then when you just said that, it just was so reminiscent of why they might have named
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_09]: the Declaration of Independence the Declaration of Independence.
[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_09]: They didn't name it the Declaration of Liberty or the Declaration of Freedom.
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_09]: But they knew our biggest issue would be the dependence problem.
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes?
[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_05]: That is the human problem.
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, look at all the young men and increasingly women, but especially young men living with
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_05]: their parents.
[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And not going.
[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_05]: There are jobs available, but they're happy to be dependent, which is really ironic because
[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_05]: what is the great nightmare of anyone getting older?
[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_05]: That they won't be independent.
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_07]: You're right.
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_05]: That they'll be dependent upon a nursing home or a relative.
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And you would think in light of the fact that we don't want to be dependent, why would
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_05]: we give up our liberty so easily?
[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_09]: You're right.
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_09]: You're right.
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Why is it okay to be dependent upon the state, but not on a nursing home?
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_09]: You're so right about that.
[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely.
[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely.
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_09]: And this book really nails it on the journey of the Israelites and how God helped them,
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_09]: directed them, cared for them, and how they rebelled, which is really what we're doing
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_09]: now in society.
[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_09]: We're rebelling hard against God.
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_09]: It is so fascinating to me how the nature of man never changes.
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Ever.
[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_09]: It's always the same.
[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the reason that these books are eternally relevant.
[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_05]: They're rooted in human nature.
[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_09]: A hundred percent.
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_09]: So, all right.
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to come right back with that.
[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_09]: But let me just say, there was so much to say in this.
[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_09]: And you know I won't get through the whole interview.
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_09]: So, it'll be online at katedalyradio.com.
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_09]: And it will be, if you just go down on the homepage, it'll be there for you to listen
[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_09]: to because he really gets into a lot of meat.
[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to keep going with the interview, but you just won't be able to hear the whole
[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_09]: entire thing in one hour with the breaks.
[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_09]: But it is a fantastic book on helping people realize what happens.
[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_09]: It's how God interacts with the Israelites and how they constantly rebel and turn away.
[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_09]: And it really was written for our time.
[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_09]: A lot of times, I think people turn to scripture as a story that you can go read and maybe feel
[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_09]: uplifted and maybe feel spiritual.
[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_09]: But is it really a book or a guide for us right now?
[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_09]: And, you know, technology's changed.
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_09]: There's some changes, but the nature of man has not changed.
[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_09]: So, there you go.
[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_09]: And he's right on the money.
[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_09]: So, visiting with Dennis Prager in this hour, playing this recorded interview for you.
[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_09]: But it's amazing to me.
[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_09]: It's amazing to me also the dependency factor and how dependent we are.
[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Look at Hormala.
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_09]: Look what she's doing.
[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_09]: She's out there promising freebies every five seconds to people.
[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_09]: And then attacking 24-7.
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's vile.
[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And the best they have.
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_09]: She's the best they have, you guys.
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Putting lipstick on a pig.
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Their prettiest shade doesn't even make that pretty.
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_09]: It's so gross.
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_09]: It's so gross.
[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_09]: That's the best they've got.
[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Ugh.
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Anyway, be right back.
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_09]: More with Dennis Prager.
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Coming back.
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[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_09]: This is my interview with Dennis Prager on his new book,
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Numbers, the fourth book that he's done.
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Here we go.
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_09]: As God talked to them, how did he talk to them?
[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Because it wasn't in a burning bush.
[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_09]: How did he talk to them in the book of Numbers?
[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_09]: To help direct and guide them?
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, well, overwhelmingly through Moses.
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_05]: So you very frequently will have a verse.
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And God spoke to Moses saying,
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_05]: speak unto the children of Israel and say to them.
[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a very common theme, in fact, in the entire Torah.
[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_05]: But certainly in the book of Numbers or in the wilderness.
[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll give you another example.
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_05]: You mentioned rebellion.
[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_05]: The single greatest rebellion against Moses and Aaron
[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_05]: is done by an Israelite named Korach.
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_05]: K-O-R-A-C-H or sometimes A-H.
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Korach gets up and he says to Moses,
[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_05]: you are no holier than any of us.
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_05]: The entire group, the entire community is holy.
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_05]: This is another perfectly statement about what goes on
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_05]: in the worship of equality that we have.
[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the basis of communism.
[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_05]: It's comrade Stalin.
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_05]: It was a fake.
[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_05]: The man obviously had all rights and the citizens had no rights.
[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_05]: But from the French Revolution on,
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_05]: where it was, you know, you're,
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_05]: it wasn't a comrade, it was citizen under the French Revolution.
[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_05]: It's comrade under communist revolutions.
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_05]: This idea that nobody's better, nobody's holier than anybody else.
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_05]: This, again, this is exactly what people want to believe.
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's not true.
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_05]: We are all equal before the law.
[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_05]: We are all born equal as the Declaration of Independence states that we are.
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_05]: But of course we're not equal.
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, any baseball player plays baseball infinitely better than I do.
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Any great musician plays an instrument better than I do.
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_05]: But I may speak better than other people speak.
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_05]: The notion that we're all equal in any way other than hopefully dignity,
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_05]: we should all have equal dignity, is absurd.
[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, Moses spoke to God.
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Moses led them out of Egypt.
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And this guy gets up and says, you're no holier than anybody else.
[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's holy.
[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_05]: That's, again, relevant to today.
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, it is.
[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_09]: You've got a lot of people also arguing with God, as they did in this book, too.
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_09]: And do you want to speak to that?
[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Because it feels...
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I do.
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Because something needs to be made clear.
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_05]: We are absolutely permitted to argue with God.
[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Rebellion and argument are not the same thing.
[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_05]: God is the authority.
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_05]: But we are invited to argue with God.
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Because the name of the Jewish people, the Hebrews, the Israelite, Israel means, and this is in Genesis,
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_05]: it means struggle with God or even argue with God.
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_05]: The first Jew, the first monotheist, Abraham, argues with God over Sodom and Gomorrah.
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_05]: And God in no way resents the argument.
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_05]: He keeps answering his arguments.
[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_09]: We'll come right back.
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_09]: I'll come right back.
[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_09]: More with Dennis Prager.
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_09]: The Dennis Prager interview on KateDalyRadio.com.
[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Be right back.
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[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_09]: But I also, I also want to say I'm speaking in Salt Lake this week.
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[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
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[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_09]: So in Salt Lake.
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Here we go.
[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_09]: More with Dennis Prager on the book of numbers, what we can learn.
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Cause when you, when you hear the book of numbers, like he said, it's not very inviting.
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_09]: It's hard to want to pick that book up, right?
[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Numbers.
[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, it's just hard.
[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like, uh, um, but there's so much here.
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_09]: And so I'm glad that he's opening eyes to that.
[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Here we go.
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Answering his arguments that believers need to understand.
[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_05]: You can argue with God.
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_05]: He doesn't want robots.
[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_05]: He, he wants obedience, but he doesn't want robots.
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Such a great point.
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_09]: When you wrote this book, Dennis, and I'm visiting with Dennis Prager, by the way, when
[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_09]: you, when you wrote this book, were you directing this to the unbelievers?
[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Uh, you talked about, uh, using, um, and, and using reason rather than going into total
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_09]: faith.
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_09]: It was more about, this is the reasoning.
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_09]: This is the, these are the, these are the answers based on a rational, a point of view.
[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Are you, so are you trying to reach the unbelievers in this book more so?
[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I am trying to reach, uh, the, the non-believer, the, but, uh, there's a, I have to add something
[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_05]: and which I will in a moment, but how much I do believe that the person that I have in
[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_05]: mind when I'm writing is a, is a, a peasant in rural China.
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Really?
[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Who never heard, who never heard of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, never
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_05]: heard of the Bible, never heard of Moses, never heard of Jesus.
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, this, uh, this has to make sense to this person.
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I see.
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Or I, as I said, I have failed.
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Having said that there are 5,000 reviews on Amazon.
[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Most are from Christians, people who, who are committed and overwhelmingly what they say
[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_05]: is I understand the, the Bible much better now.
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Wow.
[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Wow.
[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_09]: I love that.
[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_05]: People can check it.
[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_05]: 5,000 reviews.
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_09]: You're right.
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_09]: I love that.
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_09]: I love that.
[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, there comes an understanding because, uh, you know, the book of numbers, it doesn't
[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_09]: sound very inviting.
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_09]: It doesn't sound like something that is a must read, if you will.
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_09]: And when you get to the Bible, but this book in particular, would you say this book out
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_09]: of all of them has the most life lessons for us now?
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I believe, uh, ironically, uh, I believe that all tied for first to my, to my amazement.
[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I say that because I would not have predicted that even though I've taught them all, all
[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_05]: of my life, I did not expect that.
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_05]: But the, the length of my commentary on numbers or in the wilderness is as great as on, on
[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Genesis.
[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_05]: In fact, I would argue that except for the first, let's say 10 chapters of Genesis, there
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_05]: might be more life lessons in, in numbers than in Genesis.
[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Genesis is overwhelming, overwhelmingly stories of families that didn't get along with each
[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_05]: other, which I have a whole theory on that.
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_05]: It's God's way of saying to everybody who has family problems, this is normal.
[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I love it.
[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_05]: It's really good to really, it's a gift from God in my opinion.
[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_05]: But, uh, again, if I had to say, if somebody said, so should I get numbers or Genesis?
[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd say you get numbers.
[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Be, uh, and I have a lot to say in Genesis, but especially the creation of the garden of
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Eden and Noah's arc and, and why Noah was saved and no, and others were not.
[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_05]: But, uh, but, uh, but this book is just Phil, like, I mean, just the, the notion of people
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_05]: will trade in Liberty, uh, for, uh, benefits and, and the notion that we're all equal.
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, there, the themes, there's a phenomenal story in, in, in this book of a, of a pagan
[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_05]: prophet named Balaam and, uh, a, a, a king named Balak.
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, invites him to curse the Jews.
[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_05]: He wants, he wants this prophet to curse the Jews.
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_05]: It's an amazing story.
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And, uh, people think it's just a silly story because it's, it has a talking donkey in it.
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_05]: The only, the only animal that talks other than the serpent in Genesis.
[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's brilliant.
[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_05]: This, uh, uh, I, I, I explain it.
[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_05]: One great lesson is that this, I can use the word cause it's for an animal.
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_05]: This ass sees more than this prophet.
[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_05]: It's, it's, it's, that's one of the great lessons of it.
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_05]: It's the thing is so rich people.
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_05]: It, it, it look at it.
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm, I want people's lives to be changed.
[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_05]: If I don't change a life, I failed.
[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I have very high standards for my work.
[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_09]: I like that.
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_09]: I like that.
[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_09]: And God continued to show his incredible love and provision for them.
[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, throughout this book, you see the love that God still had for his people.
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_09]: And as he always does, but he cared for them in a way that you get to see that in this, that,
[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_09]: that no matter what they were doing, he was still showing his incredible love.
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_09]: He's incredibly patient.
[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, yes.
[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, but with a caveat, he gets very angry at one thing.
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_05]: And this is another awesome lesson about life.
[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_05]: What, what really ticks God off?
[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_05]: They keep complaining.
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Now, why does that bother God?
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_05]: It should, you know, so they complain.
[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_05]: So what?
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Because the complaints reveal ingratitude.
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And this is a biblical lesson.
[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_05]: There is nothing uglier than ingratitude.
[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Gratitude is the mother of happiness and goodness.
[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Ingratitude is the mother of misery and evil.
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Ingrates do bad things.
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Grateful people do good things.
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's why God gets so angry at them because of the ingratitude, not the complaining, the ingratitude.
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's a magnificent lesson for us.
[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_05]: America is being torn apart by ingrates.
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_05]: People who are not grateful for living in America.
[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, a hundred percent.
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Did you, do you feel like that lesson out of all the lessons in numbers would be the one for our time right now?
[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Because I see us.
[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, all the ones that I mentioned are so relevant.
[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Trading and liberty for benefits.
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_05]: True.
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_05]: And, uh, and, uh, oh, we're all equal.
[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_05]: There, that's the point.
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Every lesson is relevant.
[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_05]: There are no, uh, irrelevant lessons in the book.
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Right, right, right.
[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_09]: And I, I see, yeah, I see our lack of, I see our lack of humility.
[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Our, and I see.
[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_05]: That's correct.
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_05]: You got it all right.
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_05]: And that, that, that's why this is such a monumentally important book.
[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Uh-huh.
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I, I, I will admit that there will be a bigger challenge.
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_05]: The, it's been a very difficult project.
[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_05]: But unbelievably rewarding.
[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_05]: And all the four books that I've now done all have an equal number of awesome lessons.
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Nice.
[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Be right back on the Kate Daly Show.
[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_09]: More with, uh, Dennis Prager when I can return.
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[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_09]: So back here with the Dennis Prager interview.
[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_09]: And then of course the rest of this interview will be, um, will be on katedalyradio.com.
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[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And we, it, we just had a fun conversation talking about all of this.
[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_09]: So I don't want you to miss any part of it.
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_09]: It'll be at katedalyradio.com.
[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, and like I said, I speak up in Salt Lake this weekend, would love to meet you if you're
[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_09]: up that way in Salt Lake city, Utah.
[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_09]: So, all right.
[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_09]: So here you go with Dennis Prager.
[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Unbelievably rewarding.
[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_05]: And all the four books that I've now done all have an equal number of awesome lessons,
[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_05]: but Leviticus will be a challenge, uh, because of, uh, there is, is this tremendous amount
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_05]: about purity and impurity, which I will explain and about sacrifices, which seems to be the
[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_05]: people to be, you know, more or less not relevant today.
[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Although it is worth noting that the founders who were very, very old Testament centered,
[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_05]: uh, they, uh, the, there is only one thing written on the Liberty bell, the, the symbol of the American
[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_05]: revolution.
[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's from Leviticus.
[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_05]: It shows you how well they knew their, their Bible, that they would have a verse from Leviticus
[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_05]: of all books on, on the, on the Liberty bell.
[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_05]: So the, again, uh, I actually am in love with the Torah, the first five books.
[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, and, uh, I, I mean, love, and I, I use the word carefully cause I acknowledge in Deuteronomy
[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_05]: that, uh, uh, I wrote this many years ago that the hardest law, and there were 613 laws in the
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Torah.
[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_05]: The hardest one for me is to love God with all my heart and all my soul.
[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And I admit it, I admit that that, that comes, uh, came, my father loved God.
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_05]: It was effortless.
[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, but I, I, I, I find that a challenge because of all the suffering in the world and so on.
[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_05]: But, uh, I do love the Torah.
[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_05]: In fact, uh, I have a line that I, I, I write in the introduction.
[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And I, uh, what is it?
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I, oh yes.
[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't believe in the Torah because I believe in God.
[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I believe in God because I believe in the Torah.
[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, wow.
[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's my vehicle.
[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_05]: That, that is my vehicle to faith.
[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's why it has an impact on the people who read it because whatever level their faith
[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_05]: is, it could always be strengthened.
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And, uh, but similarly, I mean, a lot of people who think that faith is for simpletons,
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_05]: they read these, these, uh, volumes of the rational Bible and they go, whoa,
[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_05]: this is sophisticated stuff.
[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Are, do you think we're born with a conscience?
[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Are we born with some form of understanding of morality?
[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, but, but that's a great question.
[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And the answer is a big, but.
[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_05]: And the, but is that everyone has a conscience, but it is incredibly easy to have a clear conscience.
[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_05]: People, uh, people who commit murder are very rarely bothered by their conscience.
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I, uh, I'll give a much, much, much less horrible example.
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I, I did, I, I dealt with this on my radio show, which has been sort of my laboratory of humanity
[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_05]: for 40 years.
[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And so I mentioned wherever I go, I travel almost every week of the year and I always
[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_05]: rent a car.
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't like to be driven around.
[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I like, I like my independence.
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm a big, big independence man.
[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_05]: So, uh, I was in Minneapolis about a year ago and I had, uh, I had rented a suburban.
[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't ask for the suburban, but that's what I got, which is bigger than any, than my
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_05]: own SUV at home.
[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_05]: So I, I didn't measure correctly and I got into a tight spot in a parking lot in Minneapolis.
[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And no matter what I did, I, it was obvious I was going to scratch the car next to me.
[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And I did.
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_05]: So I asked on, on my radio show, how many people would leave a note?
[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I scratched your car.
[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Here is my phone number or here is my email address.
[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And I, I am pretty sure most Americans would not leave a note or, or, or even the number
[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_05]: doesn't matter.
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_05]: My point is the people who didn't leave a note would sleep well that night.
[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_05]: The conscience is not strong.
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_05]: You need your, your, it's like we're all born with muscles, but very few people can lift
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_05]: heavy weights.
[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Your conscience can't lift heavy weights unless you keep developing it.
[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_09]: So the justification of our conscience is actually sometimes stronger than the conscience itself.
[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Way stronger.
[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_05]: The conscience for most people is what they manipulate.
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_05]: So as not to be bothered.
[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Interesting.
[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_09]: So I, I'm going to stop it there.
[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_09]: The rest of that interview, um, it's about 15 more minutes and we talk about things like
[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_09]: that.
[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, this will be on Kate Daly radio.com Kate Daly radio.com.
[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_09]: All you got to do is scroll to the bottom and find it.
[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_09]: And I encourage you to do that.
[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_09]: There was some, um, really intriguing things set at the end of this.
[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_09]: And so I'll leave you hanging.
[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_09]: How about that?
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_09]: And, uh, you can go and Kate Daly radio.com and get that today.
[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, and then of course, uh, uh, tomorrow.
[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm going to open phone lines tomorrow.
[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I've got a little bit of a deep dive, uh, to give you tomorrow.
[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm always looking under the hood of everything.
[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I, and the things I'm finding, it's really getting crazy guys.
[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_09]: And, um, it's not like I want to find any of this.
[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_09]: This is a situation where I, it's like, it's like, um, alarm bells going off and I'm starting
[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_09]: to really look at this whole year and I'm noticing some things.
[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_09]: And I want to share with you some of those findings tomorrow that are going to be a little
[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_09]: surprising, I think, um, about where we're headed next.
[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_09]: So that's tomorrow.
[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_09]: And then of course, really graceful and please go to the show, support the show so that we
[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_09]: can stay on the air, uh, with all of these tremendous guests giving their insights.
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_09]: I love it.
[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_09]: And make sure and share the Karen Kingston interview as well for what's coming.
[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Be faithful, be fearless, be faithful, be fearless.
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