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[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Forcibly taking money from some people in order to provide welfare benefits to others.
[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_07]: How will the people whose money is being taken feel about the government?
[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I don't accept your phraseology.
[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think we force people.
[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Taxation is not forceful?
[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, no.
[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Is it voluntary?
[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_08]: In fact, quite to the contrary.
[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Our system of government is a voluntary tax system.
[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, if you don't want to pay your taxes, you don't have to?
[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Of course you have to pay your taxes.
[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, the government will force you to pay or they'll find you or imprison you.
[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_07]: We have a voluntary system.
[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Hi there.
[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Welcome.
[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Kate Dalley Show.
[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_09]: I have a special guest coming up here talking about that very thing.
[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, that was Harry Reid back in the day and he has since passed on and I can't
[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_09]: say I'm sad about that.
[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Harry Reid.
[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Talking about the voluntary system of taxation, I have a very loaded show for you today.
[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_09]: I have this particular guest on who used to be with the IRS and I'm going to be asking
[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_09]: him some questions.
[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_09]: He was one of the highest level gun carrying criminal investigators.
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Joe Bannister is going to join me.
[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_09]: I also want to say that they say the category three hurricane, 25 dead, high winds, some
[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_09]: destruction, some flooding, things that you would expect with a hurricane but just realize
[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_09]: there's a whole money pit laundering scheme behind the disasters as well.
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I might talk about that today and also a little bit on Aladdin.
[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_09]: You need to know what Aladdin is if you don't.
[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Who's running our country?
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_09]: It has a lot to do with that.
[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_09]: So we'll attack all of this in today's show.
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Very informative show today.
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_09]: I hope you stick around because it's going to be good.
[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Joe Bannister joins me.
[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Let me just tell you, Joe was with the IRS and also we may be having Payment,
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Monahetta on from the Freedom Law School, just to talk about taxation for just a moment.
[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Joe, your background.
[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_09]: Can you tell the people your background a little bit and welcome to the show?
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Hi, Kate.
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for having me.
[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_04]: You also have as a guest my three-year-old granddaughter.
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how.
[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_09]: It's all right.
[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_04]: It's Friday.
[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_04]: You will be.
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm glad you're spending time with family.
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_09]: That's a good thing.
[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_09]: So it's a Friday show.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_09]: All right, so tell us your background.
[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_04]: So from 1993 through 1999 or at least early 99,
[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I was a criminal investigator for the IRS.
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_04]: So our physician title was Special Agent and we were called special because of the
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_04]: special duties such as executing search warrants, making arrests,
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_04]: carrying guns and shotguns and all that good stuff.
[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I did that for about five and a half years.
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Sworn in, you know, foreign support and defend the Constitution back in November of 1993
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_04]: and stayed there till February of 1999 when I resigned from the IRS to blow the whistle on
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_04]: the income tax scam, the way that the American people have been lied to really since 1916.
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_04]: The income tax was ushered in in 1913 with the alleged passage of the 16th Amendment.
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But it didn't took till like 1916 when the scam began.
[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Actually, the scam actually started with 1913 because
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_04]: the federal government claims that the 16th Amendment had been ratified when in fact
[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_04]: many states had not ratified the 16th Amendment.
[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_04]: One in particular, Kentucky actually rejected the amendment,
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_04]: but the feds claim that Kentucky approved the amendment.
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So well, lies from the very, very beginning.
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Sure. I expect nothing less from this entire last 150 years.
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Actually called the IRS the original deep state operation.
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_09]: No, that would make sense.
[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_09]: And so there's a lot of people that are confused today on really what the parameters are.
[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_09]: They see certain people being brought up on charges for not paying.
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_09]: They see people that get away with it.
[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_09]: What's your take?
[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, I myself, and I'm not sure where to put it in the story,
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_04]: but I myself was prosecuted by the IRS after I resigned.
[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_04]: But in terms of overall, it's a very rigged game, which of course won't surprise you or your listeners.
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Especially COVID, the whole COVID nonsense is a really good instructor as to how
[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_04]: the media and the government work together to make people do things that really the law doesn't
[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_04]: require, but they can paint a picture.
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_04]: So most everyone thinks it's required and basically make your life miserable if you don't comply.
[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And so that's basically how the IRS does it.
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And the misery is real.
[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Anything from audit to honey, just a second.
[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks to levying your bank account, taking all your money out of your bank account to
[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_04]: putting a lien on your house, to putting you in prison.
[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Probably the biggest misnomer that people have is that they don't have the IRS even as
[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_04]: all powerful as people think.
[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_04]: The amount of enforcement compared to the population of the country is there's like no
[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_04]: comparison and payment from freedom law school if you get the chance to come on your show.
[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to explain the statistics, bear out what I'm saying.
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_04]: So basically there's this big fear factor and yet the 800 pound gorilla of the IRS can
[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_04]: make lives miserable.
[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But most of the way the IRS gets away with it is through the fear of the public
[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_04]: and they're just not aware.
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to say unsophisticated or ignorant about it.
[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But just, I mean it took me when I was working for the IRS as a criminal investigator, I was a CPA,
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_04]: all this training, you know they trusted me to carry a gun and a badge around even on airplanes
[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_04]: because this was prior to the 9-11.
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_04]: The time it took me to dig in and figure out the truth was pretty expensive.
[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_04]: So it takes some homework definitely but the fact of the matter is the reason I left the IRS
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_04]: was because I approached my IRS supervisors while I was working there
[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_04]: and said look I spent about the last two years off duty trying to disprove these allegations
[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_04]: that most Americans aren't required to pay the income tax.
[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And I can't put a hole in it and you know here I am a CPA and you've paid me and you've promoted
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_04]: me these last five and a half years.
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'd like a little assistance where I went wrong if I did.
[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And my supervisor's response was we're not going to respond to your questions or concerns
[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_04]: and here's the paperwork to tender your resignation.
[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I did hear that they are not going after low-level
[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_09]: income earners under 100,000 as much as people think they are. Is that true?
[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I mean their enforcement it's hard to tell for sure if it was due to COVID
[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_04]: or not because we're still coming out of that.
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But the enforcement just took a nosedive and to the point where they wouldn't even send
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: a notice to someone who was not filing tax return.
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Even if they had made 30, 50, 80 thousand dollars the IRS just would not follow up on
[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_04]: as they used to back in the day.
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_09]: What about their new 80,000 Samad agents?
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_09]: How does that factor?
[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Well it's again the media is great at making something seem bigger than it is.
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_04]: The legislation actually called for 8,700 agents over a 10-year period.
[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Interesting.
[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And of course over that 10 years there can be fighting over well you know 8,700 is enough no
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_04]: more or you know 17,000.
[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Now we've had enough in other words they may never reach the 87,000 because that was a 10-year target.
[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting.
[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And then even I have to say you know and I thought I was a pretty competent person there in terms of
[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_04]: the amount of promotions that they gave me and the pay raises that I got.
[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_04]: But most IRS employees or many shall we say are really not motivated.
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: They're only there to get their paycheck and pension and they're really not very sophisticated.
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_04]: They just rely on the computers to take care of business for them.
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And a fair number of the IRS's computers were designed and built back in the 60s.
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Really?
[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Interesting.
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_04]: A pretty sturdy theory as to why they're using computer systems that are you know 65 years old
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_04]: is because those computer systems are manipulated.
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And so if they had to create a new computer system, I'm sure that they've actually tried
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_04]: to create new computer systems but then they'd have to let in all the contractors and
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_04]: to let them know how the old system worked.
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting.
[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know how I'm not a programmer but the programmers need to really understand
[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_04]: how it works right to get the computer to implement whatever system it's supposed to
[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_04]: implement or work with.
[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's where the cat would have to be let out of the bag.
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I see.
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Like well this is the way we've manipulated our computer systems since you know 1964.
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So all you have to do is create a new system to do the same thing and you know that means
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_04]: they have to have all this whole new set of people involved and willing to you know to
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_04]: play in a manipulated lying computer system.
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Are they afraid of people that know the law that understand it?
[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Will they back off when people understand the law and they're saying you have no
[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_09]: legal right to take this from me?
[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say not necessarily afraid that the process is actually quite robotic
[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_04]: and computerized.
[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So if you try to assert yourself in terms of what the law actually allows,
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_04]: they won't.
[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_04]: There's no way to really pay attention to it.
[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_04]: However at some point you know human beings or non-computers do get involved and at that point
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_04]: you know then you can try to get some due process but most of the system is geared
[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_04]: towards just railroading you along you know in this computer system.
[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And of course I have to give half off the payment at Freedom Law School because over a
[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_04]: 30-35 year period he has really figured out you know how the system rolls you along and where
[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_04]: you can put the poison pills and get out of their clutches.
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Interesting okay it's fascinating to me all of this is fascinating and I appreciate you
[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_09]: being a whistleblower.
[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to have you back when it's not on a Friday and you're not spending time with family
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_09]: but I do appreciate your two cents on this because that's a really vital two
[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_09]: cents in the fact that you actually were employed there and have been whistleblowing on them.
[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_09]: So Joe I so appreciate you all let you go.
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_09]: I appreciate you speaking out thank you for that.
[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Just to point out and G. Edward Griffin was a great inspiration and waking me up.
[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes I had him on multiple times on the show.
[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_09]: G. Edward Griffin is just amazing so I appreciate that.
[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you one of my favorites.
[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_09]: All right thank you Kate.
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_09]: All right you bet that was Joe Banister he is a whistleblower on the IRS
[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_09]: and I may come back with payment and by the way a lot of topics today I mean not
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_09]: a lot of topics I shouldn't say that important stuff today to understand moving forward on
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_09]: who's really running things okay.
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Be right back on the KDally show on a Friday KDallyRadio.com be right back.
[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_09]: That is probably coming and that is this warning when the transition takes place Fiat to crypto
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_09]: the Federal Reserve will be eliminated could be eliminated and everyone will cheer of course
[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_09]: everyone's going to cheer because oh my gosh who would not cheer over this.
[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_09]: However just because the U.S. monetary system will be under the guardianship of the U.S.
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_09]: Treasury means little the illusion will continue digitally.
[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_09]: We'll have a lot of deceptions like this where they where we think are wins and
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[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_09]: welcome back this is the Kate Dally show and of course
[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_09]: my gosh I can't wait to get to this we're going to be talking with Payman and Payman is down in
[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Florida so this is why we're having a little struggle today because of the fact you know they
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_09]: were in a storm so in a hurricane and of course we welcome Payman from Freedom Law School
[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_10]: welcome Payman how are you thank you Kate for having me I'm doing great despite the hurricane
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_09]: that affected Florida we're doing okay yes I mean I'm actually I'm surprised we're on Skype so
[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_09]: I really appreciate you look I want to talk about this I talked it with Joe Bannister
[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_09]: in the last segment and was going to have both of you on at the same time but it actually
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_09]: worked out quite well because able to ask Joe some questions and you know he really talked about the
[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_09]: fact that this is a computerized system this is a system in which it can be beat if you know what to
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_09]: do and so I always want to offer up the solutions for the audience always about solutions about
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_09]: what we can do and I played a clip by Harry Reid where he was asked in an interview on
[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_09]: the late Harry Reid who I'm not a fan of obviously who the guy said well is it a voluntary
[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_09]: say he goes yeah it's a voluntary system but you have to do it but it's a voluntary so they
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_09]: kept going back and forth before we begin I just want people to understand a little bit about
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_09]: your background you left Tehran at 14 do you want to talk about that for just a moment and coming to America
[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_10]: yes I was raised in the family when my father talked with his friends in my presence as a six
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_10]: year old child about politics and health Arab Israeli conflict America versus Soviet Union and Iranian
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_10]: politics where the king could have you you know kidnapped tone in jail tortured summary trial no
[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_10]: trial just because you criticized him and spoke up against them so when I came to America in
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_10]: 1977 at age 14 I thought I came to land of the free home of the brave the greatest country on
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_10]: earth which I think still it is but well in 1980s in my economics classes I found that wait a minute
[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_10]: this has been as free as it was promised to be so that's what I got involved the freedom
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_09]: went back in the late 80s in a big way love it I love it and this brought you into realizing
[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_09]: that we have this very weird system here that is not lawful that where they can force you and use the
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_09]: use basically a gun at your head to force you into or try to force you into thinking you have to pay
[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_09]: and income tax of course very very criminal what they did as far as taxation 1800s it was all
[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_09]: about getting our money from tariffs then it turned into income tax so as far as you're
[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_09]: concerned you got into this did you realize you were getting into this this much of a fight
[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_09]: that it would be kind of a hard hard position to remain in America in this fighting this big system
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_10]: well not at first because I became a libertarian party activist and I became a U.S. citizen it was
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_10]: in 1992 that I heard about the income tax fraud and I said wait a minute why are we paying
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_10]: income taxes to the federal government that we legally do not oh we all could use extra funds to
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_10]: pay our credit card debts have some savings and why are we finding the DC swamp to begin with right
[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_10]: so back in 1992 and started educating Americans about the fact that folks we don't have to pay
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_10]: the government they don't work for us anymore the federal government is corrupt wake up now
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_10]: people finally waking up with the January 6 we all attacks on Donald Trump they try to even
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_10]: murder him twice now people saying I'm no longer going to support this government and the fact is
[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_10]: based upon U.S. government's official legal websites the 50 states are not required to pay
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_10]: any federal income or payroll or corporate taxes wow we're getting all this taxes believing that
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_10]: there's a law requiring us to do so whereas the only people that by law have to pay
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_10]: federal income taxes are citizens and residents of Washington DC interesting wow well um when it
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_09]: comes so we have about 45 seconds and we're going to be going to break but we're going to
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_09]: come back and I want you to talk about the system itself what happens how to how how freedom
[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_09]: law center helps it how they how you can help and and what you can do because there are things
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_09]: you can do just like Joe banister X IRS just alluded to there are things successfully that
[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_09]: you can do how much of the what's the portion of the United States that's actually not that's
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_09]: actually fighting this and not not complying what do you think well there's 80 million
[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_10]: non-fathers according to iris's own best estimate 80 man and all people are going to do go to our
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_10]: website freedom law school dot org and there's seven steps there dot org they're going to educate
[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_10]: themselves till the free of our deception okay we'll be right back we're going to come right
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[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Kate when you send the message over okay all right so Payman um you have been informing
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_09]: people for over 30 years you have been doing a wonderful job at explaining to people what to
[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_09]: do what not to do and I was asking you on the break there's a significant amount of non
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_09]: filers can you kind of tell us the difference between non filers and filers Payman I'm hoping we
[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_09]: didn't lose him let me see um Payman are you there okay I'm gonna try to call back and uh
[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_09]: we'll get him on again we're not going to let the storm we're not going to let the storm beat
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_09]: us so and uh of course uh internet uh we're not we're just not going to let it beat us okay um
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_09]: and of course he can call in which I'm hoping he'll do as well uh as far as that goes because
[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_09]: he's got some really pertinent information for us um 80 million non filers 80 million non filers
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_09]: that is a very very big deal okay um I am trying to get him on we shall try um in fact I'll
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_09]: call up too um if he can but I also uh uh I also want to say that with 80 million followers
[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_09]: you non filers you have uh you have uh on let's see um just you know it's live radio what can I do
[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_09]: okay 80 million non filers is the key and he's probably going to tell you that is the
[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_09]: absolute key to um his process and most people don't know that most people do not know that it's the
[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_09]: non filing when you file you are under oath to pay that money and that those designated funds and
[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_09]: of course uh this is this is where the problem lies and um as we were talking there's just
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_09]: so much to understand about this so I'm gonna hope to get him on right I'm gonna hope let's hope
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_09]: but but from what Joe was saying and I'll have Joe on again I promise um our ex uh IRS whistleblower
[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_09]: that it is about having help gotta have a little bit of help because like uh like payment says so
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_09]: eloquently guess what folks um he's not in jail and he's still here with us and he has not
[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_09]: filed for over 30 years because they know that that they don't have the resources to go after it and that
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_09]: is that is definitely the problem so keep that in mind and I'm not telling anybody what to do
[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_09]: all I'm saying is here's some really good advice you know as far as what the system looks like
[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_09]: payment are you back yes okay perfect uh all right talk about filers and non filers
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_10]: well the IRS and the CPA accountant that lawyers deceive us to file those 10 40 income tax forms
[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_10]: which are confession forms under oath you swear you owe the IRS money you swear everything is true
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_10]: correct and complete even though you do not understand what your account and CPA or lawyer
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_10]: smoke out for you to sign and they don't go to prison you go to prison by far most people
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_10]: with the IRS puts in prison over 95% are people who file those 10 40 income tax confession form
[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_10]: non-failers are about 80 million are left alone by the IRS that's a lot considering the fact that
[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_09]: your pop your working population is going to you know cross off you know that's going to be a
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_09]: significant portion of the United States if you have 80 million that's a quite a that's quite a few
[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_10]: that's basically one out of three Americans does not file 10 44 to our three do put the rope
[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_10]: around the neck by selling those 10 40 forms under oath under a penalty of perjury read
[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_10]: the 10 44 we filed last year folks read it it says under penalties of perjury why do your account and
[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_09]: CPA are turning not tell you what that meant I say I see so for not filing they'll send you notices
[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_10]: that say you need to file on no they don't know nothing they don't even do that the irish is
[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_10]: they don't even do that iris in the reports that come out of the auditors
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_10]: say that there are enough people to even take calls from filers who are want to make a payment plan
[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_10]: they don't have enough people to sell that common after non-failers is discretionary optional
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_10]: so they get to non-failers if and when they get to them while they try to do their best to go
[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_10]: off to the easy money from filers who file a 10 40 confession forms and they swear our line 37
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_09]: that's you owe the iris money hmm what about state and so we've been talking about federal but what
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_10]: about state taxes well eight don't have to stay in your tax by their own statements like sordid
[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_10]: Texas in the bottom but the fortune I do most of them follow federal law definitions and forms
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_10]: therefore if you do not owe federal tax which almost all of you don't you don't want to stay
[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_10]: in compaction either only the five states are Pennsylvania New Jersey Alabama and uh let's
[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_10]: see it was at the state's the Mississippi and the South Carolina and also Louisiana they're the only
[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_10]: ones that you have to pay because their system is not tied upon the federal system and laws
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_09]: wow okay and here you are 30 years and non-filer and here you are so it does
[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_09]: so if you know what to do if you understand you know what's going on and this is why you
[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_09]: help people now so you can get help and information on his site uh freedomlawcenter.org
[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_09]: this is why though and the rate of success I would imagine would be pretty high
[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_10]: as far as helping people yeah freedomlawschool.org our website a freedom law school oh freedom law
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_10]: school for free that's why we want people to defund the swamp in DC stop voluntarily sending
[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_10]: your money to the crooks in DC you can legally and safely stop income tax stealing or withholding
[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_10]: from your paycheck by going to our website freedomlawschool.org if you'd help call us we'll try
[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_10]: guide you to our website for free it's all there and you need to get out of this inflation
[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_10]: trap this debt they they force upon you build your family while we drain the swamp and
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_10]: brings billions back to American people and the freedom movement. Kate I love that we will take some
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_09]: calls in fact let's take a really fast call do you have a quick question? Yes first of all I want
[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_03]: to thank payment for the three decades or more that he's been fighting for freedom of liberty
[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_03]: in our country the question to you is you talked about this confession form but isn't that all
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_03]: legal a mood issue since the law there is no legal authority for a federal income tax
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_03]: since it was never ratified the US constitution says there is no it's not legal to have a federal
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_09]: good question you've got you got 20 seconds payment to answer that before we come back.
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_10]: Sixth Amendment is irrelevant to the whole issue at all whatsoever they are only taxing
[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_10]: by law you know people who are citizens and residents of Washington DC not the people of the
[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_10]: 50 states you see it all explained ask freedomofmuscle.org for free. I love that I love that you're
[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_09]: going to be able to ask him questions we're going to come back for the final segment in this hour
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_09]: please do so I know you want questions so I love this that you're willing to answer and
[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_09]: you've been helping people for such a long time and I so appreciate you making people aware
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[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_09]: that actually matter not what the media wants to tell you because the media lies to you
[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_09]: consistently um payment is on with me from um from freedom give us the website freedom law
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[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_09]: 888-673-1450 please call in right now with your questions uh payment I'll answer those
[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_09]: and so there's things that people should know number one the information you're giving is
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_10]: right from their own websites right that's right everything we say about the law is from
[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_10]: us government's official legal website not some accountant capay or turn his opinion that they
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_10]: give you they do not know the law they were not taught the tax laws they were just shown
[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_10]: to make you a slave why haven't you filled out those 10 40 income tax confession forms
[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_10]: and then paying them to put the rope around your neck sign those forms that you don't understand
[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_10]: so our mind is that you don't owe them anything and you know what Kate we have our petitioner
[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_10]: on our websites for free for people to send the congressman let's say look here's a law
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_10]: if I'm wrong show me and I'll pay the income tax right and not one congressman has ever
[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_10]: written us back and showed us that we're wrong not once amazing amazing because we it's all there
[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_10]: available for free at freedom law school dot org triple check with the congressman right all
[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_10]: three of them by certified mail about the law because we want everybody to follow the law
[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_09]: including the governments 888673 1450 for your questions payment is on with me and
[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_09]: and so the story about the 80 some 80 some odd thousand irs agents big scare tactic Joe kind
[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_10]: of alluded to that too scare tactic yes yes because irs has a broken agency one of their
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_10]: officials just tested for before congress then their employees about 50 percent of the time
[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_10]: are not there at their job think about that because irs no one owns the irs okay congressman
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_10]: doesn't push the irs to go harder they get paid the same whether they're a good or bad job
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_10]: and the hired not based upon competence the hired based upon diversity equity inclusion the best
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_10]: employee that the irs loves to have is a woman who has a black woman or non-white woman who claims
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_10]: to be a man and has surgery done himself claimed to be a man because it means three quarters at one
[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_10]: time so they're completely a broken agency that's why in 2015 16 the officially stopped going after
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_10]: non-failers completely then no longer use the computer systems to make cases to go after 9000
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_10]: fat iris was given a list of 100 richest non-failers who each or the iris a hundred million dollars wow
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_10]: to go after them and iris told them no i'm sorry we do not have enough people to go after these people
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_10]: imagine that oh my gosh no wonder they leave the low level no we're too busy right look after
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_10]: guys so if they're not come after guys that oh the iris a hundred million dollars
[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_10]: they're not fathers why would after you as a non-father right what else are people surprised
[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_09]: about when they meet with you and talk with you what are they most surprised about about this whole
[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_10]: system well they're surprised that an iranian guy comes to america tells them about freedom that's
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_10]: right but the second thing surprised about really at the iris is a myth iris is a myth
[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_10]: created by the media the same media told you for decades fbi ci yo j there are wonderful people like
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_10]: shan hannity used to say oh the great men and women the fbi used to say oh shan hannity yes my
[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_10]: bud you got woke up a few years ago no longer you trust a great men and women fbi and ci yo j do
[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_10]: see they were told that these are the wonderful organizations and that the artist's powerful god
[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_10]: that will strike you dead if you don't file that 10-24 be scared that was true but
[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_10]: successfully but the iris is a true wizard of us and i'm here as a total tellin dorthy and her
[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_10]: friends american people right you don't need to pay it on the wizard of us it's about the smoke
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_10]: and mirrors all exposed at our website freedomlawschool.org for free yeah i mean my gosh they all they
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_09]: have to do is print the money that's what they've been doing since 13 so i mean uh why don't why not
[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_09]: just print it i mean a lot of people are saying you know don't pay and then they just end up
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_09]: printing more what's the problem right besides the fact that what they're doing is so criminal
[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_09]: but they're not going to obviously stop that system so um they'll just print more right
[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_10]: well do but they need you to if you don't pay any taxes it creates more inflation so they
[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_10]: suck some of your wealth out so we don't have inflation that's what it's all about number one
[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_10]: and number two to control you as a slave you know you are the slave and they are the boss
[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_10]: but it's really it's all the way around per the constitution direct taxes are still
[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_10]: unconstitutional if they're not done by dividing among the states the sixth amendment did not
[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_10]: give congress any new taxing powers they use deception to make you believe that there's a law
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_10]: requiring you to thaw big taxes but no such law exists for the people in 50 states to pay
[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_09]: income taxes wow freedom law school dot or you can get some help there investigate that look at that
[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_09]: and uh look at peruse the information you do a lot of it you have a lot of information
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_09]: there that people can look through anything else in the last 45 seconds you want people to know
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_10]: yeah don't be afraid of 87 000 agents they say they hired that's 8700 per year for 10 years because iris
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_10]: was literally fallen apart employees were living in mass or retiring so they had to get some money
[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_10]: to be able to hire some newbies to take place of these experienced retired people so do not be
[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_10]: afraid see the truth and the truth child set you free go to freedom law school dot org and for
[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_10]: yourself and tell a friend if i may member in the process thank you thanks payment i really appreciate
[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_09]: you coming on thanks for having me thank you you bet and of course i'll be right back in the next
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