092524 SHORT 18 Min Is Christianity Getting Used In This Election? What Our Says-IMPORTANT
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092524 SHORT 18 Min Is Christianity Getting Used In This Election? What Our Says-IMPORTANT

092524 SHORT 18 Min Is Christianity Getting Used In This Election? What Our Says-IMPORTANT by Kate Dalley

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_00]: This is the Kate Dalley Show

[00:00:10] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, welcome back Kate Dalley show we'll take your calls 888673 1450

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_02]: 888673 1450 this is gonna be very unpopular

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_02]: What I'm about to say really boldly. Okay? I've kind of talked about it a little bit on the show

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that I've we've gone there this this boldly before but I want to get Susan's thoughts too and

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I want your thoughts on this for just a moment and this wasn't we didn't really talk about going here this this hour, but I feel like we should

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So Susan Reeves with me and I think this is an important point

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Why do I feel this gut feeling of ooh ouch?

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you why I feel like they are

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Going after targeting and utilizing

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Christianity now in

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_02]: All that we're doing with the problems of the world and where the

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Conversations should land as far as you're running for president

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: um, you know, you the these are the things you should talk about but they keep roping

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_02]: the Christian crowd

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And and I praying a lot at the events. Okay. I'm all for prayer. You know that and I'm all for God

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm all for that

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's the problem. I feel like they are utilizing it

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Set us up for demonization because if if when they put Trump in

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And they tank the economy we will be blamed for this

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_02]: We will the they'll say you and your god you think this was all God ordained

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You think God created this miracle and when they tank the economy we get the blame

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_02]: We get the persecution. There's a I think there's a reason for the uptick in you in targeting

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Utilizing more than they ever have before

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_02]: the Christian base

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and that's what makes me wary when Tucker had Russell brand pray on stage

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like something just did not feel as authentic with that as I would have

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Love to have felt when uh, he asked Russell brand to say a prayer

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Russell brand drops to his knees says this very very eloquent prayer

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And I and I should have been going. Yes. Yes. This is awesome. I don't know why but I felt

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: That that there was that there's more manipulation behind this and I hate saying that because I know everyone's big fan

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Tucker big fan of Russell and everything. What are your thoughts Susan on that?

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I saw that I too and it made me think

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_03]: First of all Russell brand as we were saying is a new convert to Catholicism with a very colorful past

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's say and so you can understand his passion in that but we don't like the

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Confluence of

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_03]: personal

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_03]: You know prayer Christianity with

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Politics we don't like seeing it because it feels maybe manipulative

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and you know my kids had said to me a few months ago

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_03]: What did Trump mean by this when he told people vote for me now?

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he won't have to vote for me in four years

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And the left freaked out they were saying oh that means he's doing away with elections

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But he was talking to a group of Christians. Here's what else he said

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_03]: He said you know, I don't want to scold you

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_03]: But do you know that Christians do not vote?

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Proportionately they don't vote like they should they're not big voters

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he said to them we have to win this election

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You have if you if you want to save America get your friends get your family vote early vote absentee etc

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And because it'll be fixed four more years, you know what it'll be fixed

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It'll be fine. You won't have to vote any more my beautiful Christians. I love you Christians. I'm a Christian

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I think what he was genuinely saying is for whatever reason that Christians don't

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh vote consistent with their numbers

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_03]: He was saying make an exception this time to save America

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: But when we saw it with Tucker, well, here's the thing that that was explained to me that made the most sense is

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You know the government and politics is not society

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Society is the rest of us our cultures our faith our religion. And then politics is this offshoot

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And religion and society isn't divisive politics

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Is divisive

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So we don't like to just get caught up and be used

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_03]: For those divisive political purposes only you're right to be discarded later like the blacks say

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_02]: To be set up

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like the racism what the left wants you to think is that we have a war

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Of people and and it's racist not racist. Okay, so it's this clash

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: No

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The clash

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Folks is truth not truth. Okay

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So instead of having a what is true? What is not conversation in America? It's the

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: The distraction is oh, it's all about racism. It's not it's just about the the telling of truth because we're all seeing the lies

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And then everyone confirming the lies and being okay with the lies in not only voting and everything else in this country

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: But it is all about the lies. Okay, and people are seeing people are know they're being lied to to their face

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_02]: There's two different things going on number one

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Christians right they don't they typically will say, you know, maybe I maybe I won't vote. I'm throwing my hands up

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to do it because they're recognizing there's a lot of fraud now. Trump knows it's fixed

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I know he knows it's fixed

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So what's going on? Well chris an made a point that

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: people should show up as a

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: visual

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, as a visual to be able to say well, this is where the country's at

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And not let the media get away with the big lie that everyone's for kamala. Okay, so I do understand the visual part of that

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_02]: As long as we keep understanding that it's completely hackable

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Completely changeable and they can get the outcome they want and presidents are installed

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, but they are and they have been for a hundred years and nothing about that has changed

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But there is the visual aspect and I do understand that about showing up in force to say

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: We are the majority of this country is not buying the lie of the media

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Right or the lie of the government that we are all on board the hormola train

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So I do understand that if it's between those two candidates and you have a gun to your head

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Who would you choose? I think we all know who we would choose between those two candidates, right?

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So there's the visual aspect

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_02]: But don't get swept up in your vote's going to change a lot because they can change the vote

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's I'm just being honest. They can change it. They will change it yet the visuals important. What do you think about that?

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I think what can separate us from just being used as political tools

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that we show up and talk about it? We can talk about our love

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_03]: For our families our love for america

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And the government does not deal in love

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Um that is not their realm and so we can be the reminders of what's at stake

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Which is love of country love of our families and the safety and security and so

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I think if we're saying that's why we're here as christians. That's why we're showing up right and fine

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, it keeps us a little bit apart from them. We're not just signing on as minions right to the government

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a great point. That's a great point put it this way. Um as far as that goes could they have this major

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_02]: um

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Do all these events and and do all of this without

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Going to the christianity card without playing that card because I feel like the card is being played to a huge

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: extent right

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So could they do it without that? Yes, because we can all have that as our base christianity as our base

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_02]: But let's talk about all these issues

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And without it getting played constantly to us right because what are they doing?

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_02]: They're trying to acquire trust because we have a lot of people that are propped up that are disinformation artists

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And so on our right and if we don't understand that we should

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: So so can they could they do it without playing that card? Yes, they could they don't have to overplay the christianity card

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Right because now it's starting to feel not authentic

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It feels not authentic

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and part of it is because they're not genuinely interest in our well-being as christians

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It really doesn't interest them as politicians. Yes

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_03]: But if we can help them if remember how the the left thinks of people useful or useless

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you know useful or we not useful

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And so we have to be the reminder and I think if we just say

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm with you on this. I'm not with you on this, but I can go along with you on this for now

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But constantly you will be up for reevaluation

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, right we maintain our independence

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_03]: From the blob we call it the blob the administrative state which is not

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Society we are society. Yes, they are

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna come right back and um, you know look if when people pray

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I love that talking about god we do on the show. Yes

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I just my gut tells me something's off a little bit about it and just be aware just be aware just be aware

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I could be wrong, but just be aware be right back. Kate dally show

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[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: The christian revival going on in this country. I am I want that more than anybody

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like we're being set up and I feel like we're being used and I can't stop that feeling

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I it's just it's huge for me and I

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And honestly at first I was like, why am I feeling this way?

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, wouldn't I be happy over this? But no, it doesn't feel authentic. It feels like being used

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_02]: For what's coming Susan your thoughts

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I I think that for the people as we talked about the new recruits to christianity who were then putting themselves on display

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's reaching a different audience than maybe us traditional christians were prepared to reach they had

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_03]: This new crop of people has a whole different reach deeper into their communities

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_03]: To awaken more people and so maybe if the message sounds a little jarring to us like don't manipulate us with this

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: That maybe we aren't the audience

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's people sitting on the fence or

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_02]: So there could be some other reason. Okay, I have communication some positive things. Okay, and maybe I'm you know, you know

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You could be right too

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But and and it's also reaching different people

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when if they if well when they put in digital currency it's coming

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, they've made all these long-term plans

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_02]: They've written the scripts for this election season

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_02]: if if this is where it heads and we find ourselves with a

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_02]: president that

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: We trust right on the right right you get that you get the guy in

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: um

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And then we've they they sort of they take it into a conversation where it's

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You christians did this to this nation. You think your you think

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: God is real well you wanted this and now you got this we all got this as a nation digital attorney

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is complete control smart cities all the rest the implementation of that

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You're to blame we persecute you now

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: That's my fear

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that could be true

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I think the left is perpetually looking for scapegoats. It's who they are right because it won't take responsibility

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_03]: For their own consequences of the decisions they've made

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_03]: They have to look for scapegoats

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And especially the political machines do this right and so it's almost inevitable that regardless of what happens, you know

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Trump has a spot on his tie and they blame the christians or they blame you know

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_03]: They've always looking to blame blame blame. So

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Or being intentionally set up for that because I think that's just inevitable any hiccup

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes true and I do think I I do think if you really if you really look at scripture

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I read scripture every day. Okay

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_02]: If you look at scripture, you're going to see that we're very very demonized

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, um and that is coming and how do you get a majority of a nation that's demonized into into that

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Situation how does that come about right if you travel through the country?

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I promise you give me a give me a state that you think is overblown with blue

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I will show you a huge red component of that state a very conservative component

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You travel the nation you're going to see a lot of god-fearing really good people

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Why do they have to go there though to get us on board?

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I I understand that they want more people

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_02]: To react to to get into this to to fight for their country that I get

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a little scary

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. I just keep getting this feeling that it's just more of a setup than we realize

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And that we keep buying into it and thinking it's wonderful. I don't know that it is

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You can still have your faith and it doesn't have to be intertwined with the election as much as it is

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_02]: That's how i'm feeling and so and I could be wrong

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_02]: totally

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I think too that um

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_03]: On your point that some Christians may have a fatalism and I know that because I've talked to some of them

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna get bad anyway

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, you know in order for to god to come back for christ to return. It's got to get really bad anyway

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So nothing we do now matters and that simply isn't true

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_03]: A lot that we do

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Really everything matters a lot of people. Yes, especially locally. Yes

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_03]: If you unplug and disengage yourself you really aren't helping the quality of society

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You're right because it's giving up. It's really giving up and letting it steamroll us and

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Just like the lie of we're a racist country. No, we're a country that's lying to its people

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so we got to get the conversations right and we got to blow through the the truth, right?

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_02]: We got to get to the truth of that

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And and really tell the truth on mass scale and so I do understand what you're saying. Yes

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I feel bad for people because people are being so badly gaslit

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_03]: By the media machine. They don't know what to believe. What's true. It's a confusing time

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a frightening time

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_03]: There they say things to intentionally frighten us to hurt us in a certain direction

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I have a lot of sympathy for people who just say well, then I

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I just have to pull back and can't engage and can't

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Sort it out. They do want that

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: They do want us to feel full of fear and despair and just sit in our closet and cry

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And we're not going to do that. We have to save our communities

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_02]: We save over 3 000 of them across the country

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_02]: We've saved our country if we can be awake yesterday. I said don't

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I know that the common prayer is pray for our country. No, pray to be awake

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Pray to understand what's happening to us so that we can fight it

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. Yeah, that's I was saying that there's a meme that says the world isn't getting worse or darker the veil

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Sheltering you from reality is lifting so you can see more and perceive more

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So I was just thinking about the fact that trump is putting in all this effort. He does, you know all these

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_03]: multiple

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Events during the week. Where's Kamala? I don't know what she's doing these little tiny things

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_03]: But he puts in a ton a ton of effort. I think in 2016 the last

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_03]: A day he did six or eight different rallies. I mean effort for effort

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think our effort. I think the message is effort

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Matters whether or not it's rigged or not rigged effort matters. Okay

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Susan and I know we didn't get to some of the subjects

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about it next week the secret service findings. Um, the real findings that came out Nancy Pelosi her husband the stocks

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, we had so much

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But we will get to that next week. Um, I'll be right back with melissa

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: She's got a lot on packed for the future un summit it's going on

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Um this week and of course we'll be right back. Okay dally show don't go anywhere