091124 SHORT 15 MIN What Happened To The Planes And The Passengers
Kate Dalley RadioSeptember 11, 202400:19:5318.21 MB

091124 SHORT 15 MIN What Happened To The Planes And The Passengers

091124 SHORT 15 MIN What Happened To The Planes And The Passengers by Kate Dalley

[00:00:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The fire, by the way, is still burning in some parts of the Pentagon.

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And I took a look at the huge gaping hole that's in this sideway.

[00:00:12] [SPEAKER_01]: But from my closeup inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere

[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_01]: near the Pentagon.

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: The only site is the actual side of the building that's crashed in.

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you could

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_01]: pick up in your hand.

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: There are no large tail sections, wing sections.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Circle around and actually come on to the opposite side of the building and smash into

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: the Trade Center.

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It was gray, to be honest with you.

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_00]: The plane wasn't no big gray plane.

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Mark, were you close enough to be able to see any markings on the airplane?

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It definitely did not look like a commercial plane.

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see any windows on the side.

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: What police have to determine is whether that explosion was caused from the initial

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: impact of the plane or whether it was something that was exploded on the ground.

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Generally speaking, for a building to collapse in on itself like that, it would seem to

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_02]: indicate, obviously this is just early speculation, but it would seem to indicate that there

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_02]: could have been an explosion, a bomb planted on the ground that would make the building

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_02]: collapse within itself.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_04]: That would make the building collapse within itself.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_04]: So today, a special 9-11 memorial show, really, and really memorializing the innocent

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_04]: victims that died.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And we were not given the truth, not even close.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And so I have Rebecca Roth on with me.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And Rebecca Roth is the author of these books that you must go get.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Read Roth dot com.

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Read Roth dot com.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Methodical Illusion is the first book, and it goes in subsequent order as she lays out

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_04]: this story of 9-11 like you've never heard it before.

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And I know that there are holes.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_04]: There is Building 7.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_04]: There is the fact that the Air Force was out on a drill that was exactly like 9-11

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_04]: the morning of 9-11.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So planes were not up in the air next to these planes.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_04]: All kinds of things like this that happened that are severe holes in the story, in the

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_04]: narrative that never made sense.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And finally, when I read Rebecca's books, it made sense that the whole story made sense.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And sadly, because you've realized how much the government's lied to you.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_04]: In fact, we were just talking on the break about trauma.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Rebecca, you want to chime in on this?

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_03]: On my fourth book, Methodical Exposure, I got a degree actually, I feel like.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a PhD in CIA now.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_03]: But I got really deep into how the psychological warfare works and how psychological or PSIOPs

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_03]: happen in work and how it's all done.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And that leads me to just this.

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_03]: One of the people who worked with the CIA, and he was a hostage negotiator, used to be

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_03]: with Alex Jones, Steve Pacenek.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Steve Pacenek was the inside information guy for Tom Clancy.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And Steve had read my books, I know at least the first three, and emailed me

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and had me send a set of books to Alex Jones.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's why it's even more weird that Alex won't talk about 9-11 with me.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But Steve Pacenek was a big fan of those books.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And he also was a psychiatrist.

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_03]: He knows all about PSIOPs, psychological operations, psychological warfare.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_03]: We're experiencing it now as we live at this very moment over the Russia collusion

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_03]: and all the nonsense that the FBI in the deep state have put out against Trump.

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_03]: But I want to start with what happened to me when I first started to question 9-11.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It was almost, I don't know, eight or nine years after 9-11.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I just I never looked back at it.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I stopped flying.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't into it.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And I met the guy that was on the lawn.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: So I knew there was no plane and all that.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was cooking dinner and I had Fox News on my television in the other room.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't watching it.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I was listening.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And he mentioned building seven.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It could have been an anniversary of 9-11 like today for all.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_03]: But they mentioned building seven.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And I thought, well, building seven.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw that fall down live on TV and it looked like a demo to me.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, how did they do that?

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_03]: How did they wire that building so fast to make it fall down in its footprint?

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And Hannity had two guys on again.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't watching.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know who they were.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_03]: But one of them said something about building seven.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And the other guy screamed at him, you anti-Semite.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And I thought to myself, well, how do you?

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Why is that?

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_03]: A Jewish.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: How does not liking Jewish people?

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how I thought at the time.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_03]: How does that work with this building coming down like it looked like a demolition?

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Did the Jewish people do this?

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I was completely clueless.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I had no idea all about Zionism and all this stuff.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I had no idea that people were hijacking it to their own interest.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_04]: We do have a caller.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_04]: So we'll take.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, never mind.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, go ahead.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's interesting because when I wrote The Methodical Deception, the second book,

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_03]: by that time, I by the time I did book two and three and I did them both within

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_03]: like nine months, right?

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I had connected with a guy who was a air traffic controller at Edwards Air Force Base.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_03]: He was a liaison to Area 51.

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Had long conversation.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I could write a book about this guy.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Long conversations about this guy.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And I tape recorded everything on Skype or something.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It was fascinating because, of course, Area 51, everybody wants to know what goes on there.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It was Edwards is a secret base also.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So he brought in a lot of interesting things to me.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And he was really surprised that I knew about these remote control aircraft and they do use the remote control.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_03]: They had remote control aircraft since you should write this down if you don't know what it is.

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Operation Northwoods.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_03]: It's been declassified.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It was declassified the spring of 2001.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, we mentioned a lot on the show.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_03]: 9-Eleven version 1.0.

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_03]: They were going to fake hijackings.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_03]: You heard that right.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Fake hijackings and use remote controlled aircraft to be shot down by the Cubans to start a war.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So right now we're sitting here with 23 years of hindsight.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Who benefited from 9-Eleven?

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Was it Osama bin Laden?

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Was it any Arab country, any Muslim country?

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Who benefited?

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you got to look at now.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Osama was an agent.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_04]: He was good friends with the Bushes.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_04]: He even said, I think it was like 1998, he said Americans are about to lose their freedoms in a very big way.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_04]: He knew a little bit about what was going to happen and he was the Patsy.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_03]: He was a CIA asset, yes, as was Anwar al-Awlaki.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_03]: They demonized him.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_03]: He was an FBI asset.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So when the first two hijackers Khalid al-Mu'dar and Nawaf al-Hasmi came here in January of 2000,

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_03]: 18-19 months before 9-Eleven, they lived with an FBI informant.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And another guy that we don't know if he was Saudi intelligence,

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Israel intelligence or CIA intelligence.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So he met them right away.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: He knew they were coming, but the CIA lost them.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: They knew they were in Kuala Lumpur, but once they got to LAX, they were not interested.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_03]: But I've got a great story in this next book about the CIA and a phone call

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_03]: and these hijackers and their connection.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_03]: This is why I tell you, if we continue to have some freedom of speech under Trump,

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_03]: or it'll come out when I've got one foot in the grave or they're closing the casket on me.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So when you were just mentioning the remote controlled planes,

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: which they had outlined in the 60s in the Northwoods,

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: in the Northwoods project, we've discussed it a lot on the show.

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Then that leads us to what happened to the actual planes.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_03]: All four planes were landed at Westover.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And we know that because the phone calls had to be on the ground.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And so in Methodical Illusion, the first book, I have the character Vera

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: and her friend Jim, who's a pilot, go through a website called airplanemanager.com.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's a calculator there.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_03]: You might have to scroll way down to the bottom to find a flight calculator.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And you too can go do this from airport code like Newark EWR to CEF, which is as Westover.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you can choose the kind of airplane these would be considered heavies.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you can pull down, it's a pull down menu for the seasonal winds,

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: no wind or some other, there's wind options.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And you can see that they coincide.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is really when I wanted to be wrong.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_03]: When I found out that in order to be, make a phone call, especially on a cell phone,

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_03]: they had to be on the ground.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And again, the pepper spray that she said, well, we can't breathe up front.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, if you spray pepper spray in an airplane,

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_03]: that's pressurized everybody, including the pilots get it.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_03]: No, so when Becknong said that I'm like, it's only in business class.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, there was first class business class and then coach.

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Now the curtains not going to do that because it's a pressurized airplane.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_03]: If a baby poops, coach, you will sell it in first class.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's so, yes.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_03]: If everybody is doing their fingernails,

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I think of all the experiences I've had right off that smelly things.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It goes through the whole cabin, but certainly an irritant like that.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And the people that said there was mace or pepper spray and irritant,

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_03]: they never cough or had any complaint about it.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, a couple of years ago, a flight leaving Oakland, California went to Hawaii

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_03]: and they accidentally sprayed their pepper spray or mace or whatever,

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_03]: bear spray or whatever in their overhead bin in their suitcase went off.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And most of the crew members ended up in the hospital

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_03]: and a lot of the passengers did too.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_03]: So that tells you what would happen if really mace was sprayed

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_04]: in a cabin that was pressurized.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And you would have heard the coughing.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_04]: You would have heard the reaction, but there was no such reaction.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_04]: So it must have been reading from a script,

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_04]: maybe thinking that they were in a drill,

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_04]: maybe thinking that the circumstances were different than what they thought.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they may not even have been on the plane.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_03]: They certainly were on the ground.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_03]: They have plenty of time to grab a couple people,

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_03]: only two people from the first three flights made phone calls.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: The two flight attendants on 11, two passengers on flight 175,

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_03]: and then one passenger and one flight attendant on 77.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And then when flight 93 happened, because it took a 42 minute delay.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it was supposed to hit building seven,

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_03]: but they were up in the air for so long.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It's ridiculous really.

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_03]: The first phone call happened a minute before the hijacking happened.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So how did that happen?

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: When you put all the government data together, which I've done,

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_03]: it doesn't line up.

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_03]: For instance, I'll tell you this on flight 93,

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: when they said we're going to fill up coffee pots with hot water

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_03]: and crash in with a meal cart or beverage cart into the cockpit

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_03]: and take the plane back.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_03]: That was the story.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, first off between the captain and the copilot on the floor

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_03]: is the flight management system.

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the computer that flies the airplane.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: You cannot drop a drop of water into that thing.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_03]: We're very, very careful.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_03]: We all get taught that no water there,

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_03]: no water over that computer.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It's China syndrome, right?

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_03]: So that didn't make any sense at all.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_04]: So the story was put out to just give an emotional story

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_04]: that everybody could connect with and then meme forever.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: All of the calls from flight 93 were heart string grabbers.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It's interesting because most of the people on the receiving end,

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_03]: whether it was left on a home recorder

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_03]: or they talked to the person said,

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't hear any jet sound, no screaming, no nothing.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But at that time that some of those latter phone calls were made,

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_03]: according to the government, the plane was flying upside down.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're not going to have a beverage cart in the aisle

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_03]: or are you going to have passengers in the aisle?

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_03]: We don't ask you to help us.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_03]: We are trained, highly trained and you're not insured.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to come right back.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I know it's a lot to intake.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to come right back with Rebecca Roth,

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_04]: special 9-11 show, Kate Daly radio.com

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_04]: where the podcast will be later on today.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Be right back.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you struggling to find relief?

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_05]: At Birch Gold Group, our commitment to transparency, education

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_05]: and personalized service sets us apart.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Our customers say it best.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Transferring my IRA into precious metals was easy and hassle free

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_05]: with an A plus Better Business Bureau rating

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_05]: and thousands of five star reviews.

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Our reputation speaks for itself.

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Ready to secure your financial future?

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Birch Gold Group is here to answer your questions

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_05]: and guide you every step of the way.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Join us and experience the Birch Gold difference.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, this is Kate.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Birch Gold is doing an amazing job helping you get gold and silver

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_04]: and they do it in such a phenomenal way.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_04]: It comes packaged so beautifully and so quickly, 20 years

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: and Ron Paul, Jordan Peterson, Steve Bannon, you name it.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a huge list of people

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_04]: that have been doing business with them for years and love it.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_04]: This is the place to go to.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Please text 98-98-98, those six digits

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_04]: and text my name Kate and you'll get the free information.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks everybody.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_05]: This is The Kate Dalley Show.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome back.

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_04]: You're listening to The Kate Dalley Show.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Happy about that.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And I've got, it's a 9-11 show today, a special show today.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And of course, my guest is Rebecca Roth.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_04]: She wrote some very interesting books

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_04]: that had me very intrigued about the information she was getting.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_04]: She is a former airline flight attendant

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: and she noticed all these red flags, if you're just joining us,

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_04]: and started in on the research when she noticed that the people,

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_04]: the perpetrators that we said did this thing

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_04]: were still alive over in Saudi Arabia.

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_04]: So she started doing a lot of research building seven Qatari.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Why did it just collapse?

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_04]: The plane didn't go into that but it just collapsed.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And so there's so many things about this story.

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a story about these medevacs.

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you want to talk about this and also the passengers?

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the questions that almost everybody wants to know.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Since I wasn't there, I can't tell you 100%

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_03]: but I have read enough books to know possibly how they did this.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: But at Westover Air Force Base,

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_03]: which had been evacuated before that morning.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I know that from people who were based there.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Completely evacuated.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Every person.

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_03]: They have huge hangars there

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_03]: that would hold the C5 Galaxy transport aircraft.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It's bigger than a 747.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So you could probably easily, quickly drop two of these airplanes inside.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And there are six of these giant hangars there right off the runway.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So I was working with this.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I have about a terabyte of Freedom of Information Act data.

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_03]: So I was working with this air traffic controller.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And we found into Andrews Air Force Base around 8, 49 p.m.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Somewhere in there.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Three DC-9s came in that were medevac planes.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_03]: He knew it because he knew their call signs.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_03]: These medevac planes would have been just enough aircraft

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: to carry the bodies that would have been the passengers

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_03]: who would have been killed in those hangars.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Not everybody was killed.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Some people were obviously a part of this.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how many of those and I wasn't there.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm going to guess since airplanes are pretty darn airtight

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_03]: when you shut the doors, that a toxic gas, cyanide type gas

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_03]: was thrown in once they got the people out of the planes.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_03]: They didn't want to die.

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_03]: So we found this mysterious thing and he explained to me

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_03]: how medevac planes were not called in

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_03]: to remove injured people out of the Pentagon or anything like that.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So this was his guess, not mine,

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_03]: but he's the guy who was in the military and air traffic control.

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So he had a lot of good information.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm guessing they were killed by using cyanide gas of some sort.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I have found out by reading several books on other, not just the CIA,

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been a read books about a good book.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll give you listeners a good book.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Gideon's Spies by Gordon Thomas.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It's how the Mossad operates and how they use toxic gas

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_03]: and toxic injections and stuff.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: This is how they operate.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_03]: These people are spies.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: They're like James Bond without the women.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_03]: They kill people.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_03]: They're hired assassins and there was one on,

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_03]: at least one on the airplanes that day.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_04]: There were eyewitnesses on the ground that saw a commercial plane landing.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have one eyewitness.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_03]: She used to work for the FBI.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw two and then I saw another woman who saw United 175

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: and then I have another woman.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_03]: These are all in Massachusetts, right around somewhere in that state.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Then she saw flight 77 and we know that because of what time it was.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_03]: She dropped her kids off at a Christian school.

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_03]: So we put all this time together where that plane was,

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_03]: when the phone call started being made.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how I just kept going back because in order to make a phone call

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_03]: on a cell phone on 9-11-2001, you had to be on the ground.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And most of the plane and the FBI tried to change those stories.

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_03]: They call from an air phone.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let me just say this because they did this with Barbara Olson.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_03]: But Barbara Olson was on a 757 American Airlines in January 2001.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_03]: They dismantled their air phones.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_03]: They didn't have a working.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And the calls couldn't have lasted anyway.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean you would try to call it wouldn't last but these calls lasted.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And then of course the eyewitnesses on the ground that said

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_04]: after they departed from Boston, these planes were landing at Westover.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Be right back.

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Kate Daly Show More with Rebecca Roth learning what really happened.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_04]: 9-11 be right back.