[00:00:08] When it comes to politics, yeah, I'm well past the tinfoil hat stage. I need a good helmet for the bangin' my head against the wall stage. The Kate Dalley Show starts now. The headline on the other major news story today to which we intend to devote some time is very simple. Hello, Dalley. It's a very long time since a science story on Sunday made such waves on Monday, but with good reason.
[00:00:32] Dalley is the name of the first mammal, yes, a sheep ever to be born as the result of cloning. Cloned from an adult sheep in a laboratory. Dalley is doing fine, thank you. She is seven months old already. And from the scientific community to the water cooler, we human beings have had a future, or seen a future at least, that had only been imagined up until now. If a lamb, why not a man? Our first report from ABC's John McKenzie.
[00:00:56] The key to this experiment was to induce the genetic information of a very specialized cell from an adult, in this case a mammary gland cell, to go back through development to produce an entire new animal. Huh. That was from 1997. Peter Jennings, remember him? All right, welcome to the show. Boy, we got a lot of freaky stuff to talk about today.
[00:01:24] Oh, welcome. And I have Melissa on the show to do that with me. Melissa, how are you? I'm great. I have to tell you, I should have watched The Island of Dr. Moreau before I came on today. Oh my gosh. There's some weird stuff. One of my favorite movies, and I thought it was sci-fi, but maybe not. Maybe not. There's some weird stuff going on, and we got to talk about it, and it's getting, I think, normalized.
[00:01:52] So, a lot to talk about on the show today. And I'm glad that you're tuned in. It's a Wednesday, so you've made it halfway through your week. So, congratulations to you. You're that closer, much closer to the weekend. And there was a picture of a dog with their face outside of a window, and it looked like it was just like peace on steroids, you know, just like, ah. And it was a meme, and it just said, experiencing my first day of normal weather. And so I hope your weather...
[00:02:21] Where does that dog live? I want to go there. And the sun was just beaming on his little face, and like a little Pomeranian. And I just started laughing, because I'm like, we all feel that way, brother. Anyway, I hope your weather is better than last week. You survived? It is better, but to vindicate myself, last Wednesday was one of the largest tornado outbreaks. I know. Like, in years and years. And you were mocking me. I know. I felt bad. But I'm so sorry, because we don't get those here.
[00:02:49] And I'm in the southern part of Utah, and you're in the Midwest, Melissa. And so I'm so sorry. If it sounded like that, I didn't mean to. I lived. Midwesterners, we're tough people. There you go. There you go. I love that. Resilience. Okay, so you have to talk about... So we talked about it a tiny bit on Monday. Maeve and Ray mentioned it a little bit yesterday, but we have to... There's some other freaky stuff going on, too. So I just...
[00:03:18] You need to introduce this. Yeah. Okay. And I have to preface this by saying, I live on the Ice Age glacial till. So this is a perfect conversation for me from the Midwest. But let's talk about the thing everybody's talking about, the dire wolves. Okay. Oh, aren't they so adorable? The little pups are so cute. I want one. Hey, everything's cute when it's little. But go ahead. That's correct. Go ahead.
[00:03:44] Let me remind everyone that dire wolves were apex predators. Apex. That means they were at the top of the food chain. Ah, okay. And they lived at the same time as people. Yeah. But they were the apex. Okay. Oh, wait. Except the only things that were kind of in the same category are like saber-toothed cats. Yeah. You know, so this is, these are big time predators.
[00:04:14] So we have colossal bioengineering or biotech cock-a-doodling about how they have rebirthed. They have resurrected, and I hate that they use that word. They have resurrected the dire wolf. But have they really? Hmm. Hmm. And I want us to take a quick look at that. And then there's some other interesting things afoot as well with this whole story.
[00:04:41] It's, we are being frauded and clickbaited like you can't believe. Okay. On this whole story. Okay. Hmm. So let's talk about where did these cute, adorable little pups come from? Yeah. And where is the clickbait part of it? Like, what are we being clickbaited into thinking to? Okay. Well, that they're adorable. That they're just little puffballs of goodness. Everything's cute. Everything's cute when it's little. So, okay. Don't we all want to have one?
[00:05:10] I saw the video. Oh, oh, oh. And I was like, I want one. No, no, I don't want one. Okay. I don't want one. Okay. So tell me. So they got the DNA strands to create these supposed dire wolves from two different samples of like fossilized DNA from dire wolves. One sample came from Ohio.
[00:05:39] One came from some other far flung place. They have dire wolves that died in the La Brea tar pits. They're truly ice age animals. Right. They have not been seen since the end of the ice age. So we're talking like 12,000 years ago, 13,000 years ago.
[00:05:59] When their food source, when their prey disappeared and they ate things, giant things, right? They ate huge animals like buffalo and horses. They're not little, cute little things that just ate, you know, Alpo in the evening from their stainless steel dog bowl. Okay. They ate big and they undoubtedly lived in packs. Okay.
[00:06:29] But are they really being, okay, go ahead. So these, the dire wolves popularized by Game of Thrones, no less. So if you're a fan of Game of Thrones, don't we just want a dire wolf? Sure. Don't we all want to own one? Right. They took, they sequenced as much of that as they can. And there's problems in that kind of genetic sequencing. They need to get a full genetic sequence. They need nuclear DNA.
[00:06:59] They only got mitochondrial DNA. There's like 19,000 different, you know, combinations. They took 20 of them, said, oh, these are some of the characteristics that made wolves into dire wolves. Okay. We're going to take dire wolves and we're going to, using CRISPR technology, insert that into the genetic code.
[00:07:27] Now, they've come out and said, well, you know, a wolf today and a dire wolf, they're almost identical. Except they're not. They don't have any common ancestors. There were gray wolves in North America at the same time as dire wolves. And there is no inbreeding of them. That means they were incompatible to breed together. Ah, okay. Less so than humans and Neanderthals.
[00:07:56] So no chimera. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to take a wolf, which in order to find a common ancestor between a current wolf and a dire wolf, you have to go back like 5 million years. Right. In the record. They are really not even, they're not closely related at all. Right.
[00:08:22] Which, so the fact that they took, they're a chimera. They're two different animals that they have mixed together in a test tube. Yeah. Yeah. That's weird. They're not a dire wolf. And nobody really knows what a dire wolf was. Okay. But all the indications point, and I read a fascinating article by some people who are, they're experts dealing with wolf DNA, if you will.
[00:08:51] And they said, one of the ways you know something's up is that these little dire wolves have no gray tips, like on the ends of their ears or on their paws. Okay. That is something that almost never, well, they don't say it almost never, they say it never occurs in the wild. Ever. That coloration. Right. The perfectly white, kind of almost polar bear cuteness is not natural.
[00:09:18] They said somewhere in that animal's lineage is a domestic dog. Ah, okay. Because we don't even find that in gray wolves. Right. Hmm. Hmm. So, did they tell you that? Yeah. Well, it's interesting, too, because I played that cloning clip, you know, from Peter Jennings in 97. And they made a big deal about it back in the 80s that they were doing that. And then the story sort of disappeared. So, there's two lines of thought.
[00:09:46] Either they really couldn't do it because they would have kept doing it and we would have heard about it. Or they didn't want people to hear about it, but they just kind of wanted to leak it to the press to prep us for what was coming later, which means now and beyond. And that they've kind of kept it under wraps how much of it they could possibly do.
[00:10:09] And if you go back and you read Peter Better's papers who worked for Kennedy, he was saying that this technology, they're so far beyond the dolly of the sheep. And they were so far beyond even with humans what was going on. But it was interesting to read those papers that he put out. And he even ran for governor at one point. But he put these papers out that we were just so far beyond the technology that we just could not even fathom what they could do.
[00:10:37] So, it is kind of interesting when you go back to even the dolly the sheep clip. And you're like, gee, that's weird that we didn't really hear about that afterwards. Like, we haven't really, they haven't, it hasn't really been in the press until the last few years, really. That's kind of weird. Well, it's my understanding that with dolly, they were trying to make a clone. Yes. An exact duplication. Yes. That is not, they're not claiming that these pups are a clone.
[00:11:02] But it's the same kind of, the same kind of things like that, that DARP is capable of. So, that's why I was just like, hmm, interesting because the gene splicing and the cloning. And I mean, it's all like scientific, horrific scientific show. So, I'm like, this is, it's very bizarre. Yeah. Anyway, go ahead. This is a chimera. It's a mix of species and animals. Yeah. They're splicing and dicing. Interesting.
[00:11:28] In modern wolves and in modern dogs, there is zero dire wolf genetic material. So, if they are trying to sell us that they have recreated a new dire wolf and we get tricked, here's the clickbait part. We hear the word wolf. Oh, it's a dire wolf. Uh-huh. But there are those who are advancing right now that a dire wolf was closer to a hyena than a dog. Huh. Interesting.
[00:11:56] Now, if I said to you, KK, wouldn't it be a great idea to introduce these gigantic predatory hyenas into North America? Wouldn't that be a good idea? Yes, because we don't have enough problems. Yes, please. Bring it. Bring on the world. No, nobody. They had to make them cute. Right, right. They're cute and adorable. And we have a lot of people. This is another interesting aspect to this. 15 seconds. Lots of people think that these blended wolf dogs are so adorable.
[00:12:26] They, what they are finding out is that most of those blended dogs do not last to their second birthday because they are both too tame to live in the wild and too wild to live with you. Ah, a weird splicing and dicing. Okay. All right. Be right back. More with Midwest Melissa followed by Susan today. And by the way, Cash Patel, there's some news on him too. Be right back.
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[00:16:57] This is not about saving a species or resurrecting a species from extinction. This is about taking a wolf or a dog or a wolf and a dog and enhancing through genetic splicing their abilities. They're making them bigger. Right. Stronger. Furrier. They can withstand the cold. This may be the frontier of where they're heading with transhumanism. Yeah.
[00:17:27] For like straight to the point here. If they were really concerned about the animals themselves, about resurrecting these animals, why aren't they working on animal populations that actually are endangered? Why are they trying to resurrect woolly mammoths? Yeah. Tasmanian tigers. Because it's cool. You know, and dire wolves. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:17:54] So we here in the Midwest are very familiar with the Asian carp problem. What happens when you introduce an invasive species that has no natural predators and eats up all of the things that the native things eat? If they, and by the way, the plan, according to Colossal, they have partnered up with several indigenous tribes and said, hey, wouldn't it be a great idea if we get these dire wolves?
[00:18:23] We'll introduce them on Indian land. Right. On native land. We're going to turn them loose. That's the point. That's the end game. Jeez. Why would you do that? I don't know. I mean, where I live, they had to put a fish gate in to protect a very fragile ecosystem. I live close to a wetlands, a Midwestern wetlands.
[00:18:46] And they had to put a fish gate in to prevent the Asian carp that are coming up the Ohio River system and the Mississippi River system and prevent them from getting into the wetlands to protect endangered species there. Wow. So if we're really concerned about the science, if we're really concerned about the environment, why are we introducing something that the world has not seen for 12,000 years? Right. Right. Just because it makes no sense.
[00:19:14] Just because we we could should should we. Well, it's the Frankenstein effect. If we can. It's these scientists. They are Dr. Frankenstein. They have the hubris to believe that because they can, it's a good idea to do that with no consideration for either the animals or the people that it would impact. Well, you know, and sometimes I wonder and I said this on the show the other day.
[00:19:40] Are they are they manipulating these stories to think that to get us to think they can do it so that when stuff's introduced and normalized that we actually think that it's a creation. And I think there's going to be some confusing things about that coming out, like what they can actually do versus what they say. It's kind of like with AI, what they can actually do with AI or what they what they exaggerate. They can do with AI, you know, because they're never part of this.
[00:20:08] That's already part of this story. OK, because they're saying we've created the dire wolf. Yeah, I haven't. Yeah, I know. You're right. You're exactly right. Melissa. Great point. Be right back on the Kate Daly show with Midwest Melissa. Man, we have a lot to explore in the next segment. Stay with us. Be right back.
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[00:22:33] OK, there's a money back guarantee, but you're you are going to love this product. All right. Can't say enough about it. All right. So, Melissa, Midwest Melissa, let's go. Yeah. Here's the next step in the story. As if the poor animals are not going to suffer from the hubris of the scientists. Let's talk about colossal biosciences for a minute. OK. OK. So the CEO is a guy named Ben Lamb. L-A-M-M.
[00:22:59] And it didn't even take very much research to find out he's only 41 years. Oh, no, he's 43 years old. Billionaire. How did he get to be? Yeah. He's a billionaire. Just listed on the Forbes like 100 richest people list. Which tells me a lot. It just tells me a lot. Go ahead. Forbes is recognizing. Where did he get his money from? Uh-huh. And this rang bells in my head like nothing you've ever seen. So he co-founded.
[00:23:27] He's a serial entrepreneur who co-founded all of these little companies, including a thing called Hyper Vigilant, which was purchased by Josh Kushner's VC firm Thrive Capital in 2020. Say that again slower. Hyper. Oh, Hyper Giant, which was an app company, I think, purchased by Josh Kushner, Jared Kushner's little brother. Yeah.
[00:23:56] In 2023. OK. What did they purchase again that had to do with Ben Lamb? Ben Lamb's company was purchased by Josh Kushner. Wow. OK. I'm not a fan of Jared or, you know, the Kushner little group. So I'm. So and that was in 2023. Colossal, I believe, was started in like 2021 or 22.
[00:24:24] And they have raised a total of four hundred and thirty five million dollars, including a recent two hundred million dollar funding round that has valued the company at ten point two billion dollars. Wow. Hmm. Now, does this is like beyond a Cinderella story, right? Well, it's the only. So here's the bells that ring in my head.
[00:24:50] When I hear about people who are doing kind of like I can't think of any app that I could invent that would be worth so much that it would be sold for millions and millions of dollars. Right. So it made me think, well, who else is funding colossal biosciences? Sure. Where is the money coming from? Where does it always come from, Kate? Let me guess.
[00:25:20] Intelligence. Right. CIA intelligence. Yeah. In-Q-Tel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Colossal has been co-funded by In-Q-Tel. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's always the same story. They're not very creative. Nope. They're not. I'm just wondering, like, did Elon find like why does In-Q-Tel have money to throw around investing in private companies? I don't know. Hmm. That's government money for sure. Mm-hmm.
[00:25:50] Anyway, why? So let's take In-Q-Tel is the CIA. It's a front company for the CIA. Why would the CIA care about recreating dire wolves and woolly mammoths? You tell me. Hmm. All right. Elon, by the way, has expressed a lot of interest in their work and has supported it too. Hmm. Hmm. Well, maybe they don't really care about dire wolves and woolly mammoths, but they care
[00:26:18] a whole lot about CRISPR technology. They do. Yep. I'm with you. I think this is like a ruse for that. Just simply that. I'm with you. I'm with you on that. So if you can bioengineer things, what all can you bioengineer? Yeah. What all has the government already bioengineered? Hmm. And why would the CIA care about that?
[00:26:40] So things like disruptive animals, they could create disruptor animals. Oh, like ticks that carry Lyme disease? Yeah. Kind of like that. Right. Hmm. Only we're talking much bigger animals now. Yeah. And it just makes me so sad that what they say is they want to make sure that they have
[00:27:07] the upper hand on the ecological and political landscape. Yeah. Hmm. So the CIA does not have a great track record of not trying to develop things that would hurt or kill or disrupt other economies, other people, other leaders of the world, whatever. Hmm. And they're saying now, well, you know, maybe the Chinese are already doing it. Maybe the Russians are already doing it. So we have to do it too.
[00:27:38] Hmm. Interesting. And maybe they are. Yeah. But does that mean that it's a good idea? I don't know. And by the way, do you believe the CIA when they say, but we would only use it for good purposes? I don't believe anything they do. We would only use it to develop. We're only going to develop something to protect the people of the United States. Yeah. I don't believe, I don't believe anything they say. And I hate it when they run for office because I'm like, you're a snake. And yeah, I don't.
[00:28:04] I think we used to have in back in the, in the day, there used to be some white hats in it. There used to be some guys that I think didn't know why they were being, you know, what they were doing in it. And nowadays I think it's so dark that you kind of have to be dark if you're going to go into the CIA. And I think that there's some, um, awful repercussions, I think for us as human beings, for the people that go in there. And I think they're tested to go in there because they're able to lie.
[00:28:32] And I think there's going to be a lot of people that are mad at me saying that I don't really care. Um, I've never met a CIA person that I've actually ever trusted. So I, I, I just, it's just creepy to me. If we assume, which we can at this point, because they've announced this, that they are enhancing an animal with super characteristics. And I hope I've proven the point that they really haven't created a dire wolf, that they've enhanced a wolf dog. Yes.
[00:29:01] I'm glad that you made that point actually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you. That what the next step or the end of the game is enhancing human potential. Enhancing human abilities being, can they create super soldiers? Can they create people who are not sensitive to the cold or people who have super intelligence or people who are designer babies? Can we have designer babies in the future? Yeah.
[00:29:31] And I think that's absolutely a part of this whole game. Yep. Yep. They, they were even talking about, um, uh, these, well, we'll get into it in the next segment, but there's, there's another thing that that's been coming up. That's actually in the news today that I've been looking at too. And it just so happens there's a news story on it again today, but they're, they're, what they're doing and what they can create. I think we're far above and beyond what they can do in some respects.
[00:30:00] And then I think they exaggerate other things to me. And then anyway, we'll come back. I won't have enough time to explain that. You know, the whole, the whole press release is kind of weird and they haven't told the truth, but people get excited over these new technologies cause they're cool. Just like new technology in of itself. But it's weird. But we like, I'll be right back. Kate Daly show more with Midwest Melissa.
[00:30:35] This is the Kate Daly show. All right. Welcome back. Kate Daly show and a little Whitney.
[00:31:04] And of course I've got Midwest Melissa and I just wanted to say tomorrow, Sean Spicer and Chrisanne Hall and on Friday, uh, Dr. Warren Warren, I can't talk today, Warren Farrell. And he's one of your, one of the most requested guests because of his thoughts on fatherhood and the importance of that. And then also women and men and our differences and, uh, all kinds of things. So that's Friday. And I also, uh, wanted to tell you, go to cozy earth.com and put in the code Kate.
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[00:32:02] And then everyone will think I'm nuts and that's fine. Um, there's a, uh, an author and a researcher that I have been interested in for a while. His name is Rupert Sheldrake. Okay. And he has done some investigation. He wrote a fascinating book called dogs know when their owners are coming home. Okay. And it's about the psychic connection that dogs and animals have with each other.
[00:32:26] They know that wolves seem to show some indication that they have, uh, he suggests that they actually have maybe even psychic connections. Now don't think I'm a nut before you say it. Haven't we all had that experience with our pet where we already know what our pet needs or what our pet is thinking about without any big signals. Okay. We know that the government for many years, everybody's heard about the men who stare at goats, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
[00:32:55] We know that the government has invested a certain amount in exploiting the perhaps like remote viewing ability or the ability of mind meld between people where people, and if you haven't watched, listened to the telepathy tapes stuff, you should, but there's, there's this new and emerging dialogue about do, are there people, do people have these psychic connections
[00:33:24] with each other, with animals? Now we've talked a lot about MK Ultra. We, you and I both think that they can do things that they're not telling us they can do, but what if they created an animal and enhanced a person with the ability to have those psychic connections? What if you were the master of a pack of wolves that you could control with your mind? How powerful would that be? That's wild. It is wild. Yeah.
[00:33:54] But, and I'm not saying it's true, but I'm saying it's interesting. I do too. And I, I do. And I, I also think dogs can sense things they can sense when, when something's coming or they can sense about people. You know, your dog will probably tell you, and I've owned dogs and I've loved my dogs that they can tell, they can tell a person and like a horse can. And so, yeah, I mean, interesting if we were able to control that with our mind, that's very, very. Yeah.
[00:34:21] If, if the military establishment was trying to exploit some of those characteristics and they could enhance an animal's abilities, say they produced a super dog that had super sensing abilities and it could go to places where no drone could go, no person could go, but they could maintain other types of links with that animal. Maybe it's an AI link. Who knows what they have? Interesting.
[00:34:50] But you know, things that if, if I had told you 25 years ago, some of the things they can do, if I had told you 50 years ago, some of the things that they were working on, you would have thought that that was science fiction too. That's true. That is true. And yeah, I, I, I, I want to understand that they're probably farther ahead than they are. I have pretty good information that they are. And even Chrisanne Hall will tell you, yeah, they're like 50 years ahead of what they tell us because of the things they want to introduce to us.
[00:35:20] So this is a normalization thing. This is a thing to get us excited. So of course they go to game of Thrones, right? And, and to that audience, because, because they want to introduce it so that we're begging them for it. So we love it. We, it's exciting. And, um, I think there's way more. There's also the, uh, if you go to real botics, B O T I X.com, there's a story today about,
[00:35:44] um, bringing Suzanne Summers back to life and not to life, but in AI form, like they did with Whitney Houston. They did a whole concert series with Whitney Houston as an AI hologram. And they're bringing this back. And this is a robot. Real botics is a company for robots. And you should go check out their screen page because it's rather creepy, but they are working on bringing all these dead celebrities back as actors in movies and ads so that they
[00:36:11] look like they're very much alive and that you won't be able to tell the difference. And I think they are farther ahead in that technology than we can even guess right now. Well, when you combine the power of AI, the ability of them to create chimeras with different kinds of bodies and different kinds of capabilities with the ability to do deep fakes, who knows where this goes? Yeah. These, these, uh, full bodied robots, by the way, robotoids are 175,000 plus.
[00:36:42] And there are people that are going to spend money on this. Probably the same goons that have all the art hanging in there. They don't know what else to spend it on. So they're probably going to buy a robotoid anyway. I just said something. I said, who knows where this goes? And let me tell you, there was someone who knew, knew where this goes. Her name was Mary Shelley and she wrote Frankenstein. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. It's time to review the book. It's not a feminist novel. It's about what happens when science goes astray based on the hubris of the scientist. Yep.
[00:37:12] Yep. You're right. And, and here's the thing, you know, I do research on the writers of all the sci-fi movies because I want to know who they are and who's funding them and where they came from. And they have very interesting biographies, if you know what I mean. Very interesting. And I think a lot of them are coming out of intelligence and this is, they're able to, like these shows, severance and, and all the rest. And you'll see the same writers write on all these different genres of sci-fi.
[00:37:39] And then it turns out kind of like minority report where you're like thought police. And then all of a sudden, you know, you, you start going, wait a minute. Are we living? Are we living that? Are we starting there? Are we, are we getting there quick? And so a lot of the writers of that, that's why I always pay attention to sci-fi, even though I'm not the biggest fan of sci-fi because I wanted to see where they're going. Black Mirror has been a really good example of that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But you know, we literally, I think we really do need to, if you haven't read Frankenstein
[00:38:08] in a while, go back and reread it. Yeah. Who cared? Dr. Frankenstein did not care about the creature that he made. Yeah. He only cared about himself. And when things got dicey, the scientist ran away. Dr. Frankenstein ran away. And is that what's going to happen here? You know, once the genie's out of the bottle, are the people from Colossal going to take responsibility for what they've created? I doubt it. Did Dr. Fauci take responsibility for what he helped create? Oh, of course not.
[00:38:36] He'll never face any jail time or any charges. He won't even be put in court for what he's done. Yeah. They're all criminals, eugenicists, and they get away with murder. Murder. Actual murder. Well, this is part of that same thinking. I'm with you. Midwest Melissa. Thanks. A lot to think about today. I really appreciate you going down that rabbit hole too, because it's been in the news for a couple of days. It's been kind of interesting to see the twists and turns. Thank you so much. And a great hour. And then also on to Susan.
[00:39:05] So coming right back, stay with us. Kate Daly Show. You never know what we're going to say.