[00:00:05] I love you, but I'm thinking another flood isn't such a bad idea. All in favor of just a total earth cleansing? Say aye. The Kate Dalley Show starts now. My sister put in the family group text. She goes, pray for Malachi. He's having a tough day. And everybody in the group text is like, praying for Malachi. We love him. Supportive. Praying hands. Lifting him up. All I said was, I go, what's going on? And she texted me directly. You know how they backdoor text you? Yeah. Yeah. She came around back. She goes, what do you mean? I go, what happened? She goes, he has tendonitis in his thumb.
[00:00:35] She comes from holding the iPad. I go, I'm not praying for that, dude. Up to the God of the universe with my name on it. Just widows, orphans, missionaries. Malachi wants to watch Paw Patrol. No. Yeah. Some things you cannot pray for. My buddy's like, dude, can you pray for me? I was like, yeah, absolutely. What's going on? He goes, I got a drug test tomorrow. I need to pass it. I go, nah, I'm not praying for that.
[00:01:07] Oh, man. I love comedians. Don't you? All right. Welcome back to the show. And one thing I did want to mention, because you know, I never get to everything in my research, but not that I can. I got mounds of it. But I did want to mention three bays. Three bays is the one out of Australia, the bottled water out of Australia.
[00:01:28] I was talking about water in the last hour. And it's such an important thing to put minerals in your body right now because you have a hell of a lot to fight right now.
[00:01:40] Okay. We got the 5G stuff. We've got EMF. We've got bad food. You know, we've got everything, every stuff dropped on us. Okay. Everything. Right. And your body designed by God is, is working overtime and doing a pretty good job. You're still living, right? You're still here. But man, we need more minerals to fight off all this stuff.
[00:02:03] And so one of the best things you can do, and one of the, probably the most, one of the, some of the most important shows I do are what you can do right now to fight all of this stuff going on and make a choice when you're choosing bottled water. I don't have any vested interest in this. So I'm just telling you like what I would drink. Aquapana. You can get that at like Albertsons or I don't know, whatever chains are all over the country. Just search.
[00:02:24] But, uh, Aquapana, I would drink that. Gerlsteiner, uh, that is a, an awesome mineral water. Three Bays is the one from Australia that actually has like iodine and all these other things in it that we need. And there's all kinds of, um, uh, different ones that you can go look up. Uh, the, uh, bottled water dot water defense dot org has a lot of information on some of these waters and which are the best brands for minerals.
[00:02:51] So, um, go there. I don't have any vested interest in telling you any of this. I'm just telling you that up your mineral content right now and your kids too. Some of the ones that people were choosing as well were like Voss, um, or some of these different springs. It says a lot about the fact, uh, well, uh, mountain Valley, I think mountain Valley water comes right from little rock, Arkansas.
[00:03:14] Some of my family's from there. Okay. Um, so I'm just telling you, look at these waters, uh, Aquapana, Perrier sometimes. Yeah. But I'd go for San Pellegrino instead and Gerald, Gerald Steiner, um, and some of these brands.
[00:03:30] Um, so it's, uh, it's important that we get the minerals, but when somebody says to you, there's a drought, okay. The proof you have proof right in front of your face. Okay. That we're not in a drought because look at all these sources of bottled water. Okay. Um, bottled water that are coming up out of the ground for centuries.
[00:03:52] And then ask yourself, do we really have a drought? If we, why can't we go for more of these wells? Why can't we access more of these? If they've been going to some of these since the 1500s, like Aquapana, that's rich in minerals. Why can't we do that? But you know what? Elected officials have never been the brightest bulbs. Okay. They're not the brightest people I've ever met.
[00:04:14] And they are, they have a hard time, um, wanting to look into anything that's not sanctioned by government. And this is why I don't have respect for a lot of elected officials. I look at them as probably some of the stupidest people on earth. I'm sorry. I do. It's terrible, but I do because I know them and I've met them and I've conversed with them. And I'm like, you're not very bright. Are you? I said, that's what I'm saying as I'm smiling. You're just not very bright. Um, but they won't look right in front of them is, is bottled water. That's been going forever. But they go, oh yeah, you can't.
[00:04:43] You can't access water down there. It only comes from rainfall. You got to catch it. You got to catch it. What the heck? Not very bright. Um, so anyway, just I'm letting that go, but I just wanted you guys to know that here is proof right in front of your face that yes, you can go down for primary water. Primarywater.org is what I'm talking about. And they teach people how to go down and find this kind of water. Okay. Primarywater.org. Stop believing the drought narrative and start drinking water.
[00:05:13] That's mineralized. That has good stuff in it. All right. Maven Ray, how are you? I'm doing great, Kate. How are you? I am awesome. I am awesome. Is there anything you want to add to water? The water conversation? I actually do. Okay. Sure. I think it's interesting. Um, I came across this website, uh, a couple months ago and decided to check it out. And it's called cause, because I was investigating the benefits of natural spring water. Okay. Yeah.
[00:05:40] So the website is called find a spring.org. Okay. And if you go to find a spring.org and you click on the map, you can see worldwide where there is a natural spring near you. Nice. Which is so cool. You can see if they're free, if you have to pay for the water. Okay.
[00:06:02] You can also see if there are hot springs in your area. Cause I know that, um, in the Midwest, excuse me, not the mountain West, we have a lot of hot springs, right? Because you've got that aldera that's up by Yellowstone. Yes, yes, yes. Um, and so that actually, I was kind of surprised. We have hot springs that go really all throughout Nevada, Oregon, Idaho. Um, but there's so many springs that are all over the West.
[00:06:31] Oh, I so agree with you on this now mountain Valley water. You can find that at like nature's grocer. Okay. I don't get anything from saying this to you guys. Okay. But this is so important to know it comes out of the ground naturally right in Arkansas. Okay. There are lots of these kinds of wells, but see, they won't dig for them and they won't pay somebody to go and, um, um, and, and use the old fashioned ways I should say to find them, which is very viable and easy to do. Um, but they won't do it elected officials.
[00:07:00] So mountain Valley water, I told you that's one of the drinks. So Aquapana mountain Valley, those are two of the highest. They have the trace minerals. It comes from the old fashioned way instead of adding it at the factory. That's the kind of water you want to drink. So that's why I'm saying like mineralized from the rocks that it comes through from the well, it comes through. Those are the natural additives that your body recognizes. They're not additives infused into the water later. And that's why it's important.
[00:07:28] So if you're going to reach for water, try to do it in glass bottles, mountain Valley comes in glass bottles. So does Aquapana, if you can find it. Um, and then also get rid of the plastics in it, microplastics, but, but utilize water as one of the best things you can do for your body right now. And just fill it with magnesium, calcium, phosphorus, all of these things, because it's, we're so deficient that it's scary. It's really scary. And by changing your water, you can really change
[00:07:56] your skin, your hair, all kinds of things because it penetrates all through your body. So just saying that this isn't, this is so, so important. And they come through the sheets of quartz and marble and all kinds of things. And our bodies crave this water. They need this water and it makes it naturally alkaline. So when you just go for the alkaline water, you're not, you've got to mineralize it.
[00:08:21] And like you were, we were talking on the break. I was talking with Maven Ray and we were talking about this, you know, the Celtic sea salt, put a little bit of that in your water and drink it. It'll cure headaches. It really does too. It really helps with headaches. I shouldn't say cure, but helps with headaches. And also, uh, the Celtic salt has those minerals and they say, well, it has some, you know, stuff in it too, but your body, if it has a good mineral count, will kick out anything. That's not supposed to be there, right? It's trained to do that. So the Celtic salt, when Barbara O'Neill talks about Celtic,
[00:08:51] Salt salt so much. And I love the Barbara, you're going to learn more from Barbara O'Neill when it comes to actual health. She knows more than most doctors I've run across, um, which is not hard to do, but it's a leap, right? Cause Barbara O'Neill is amazing when it comes to understanding disease and the body. Um, go to her videos. If you want to sit down instead of watching Netflix, watch Barbara O'Neill. You'll, you're going to learn a lot and we're going to need that learning for the future in order to really start, um, curing things in our bodies rather than going
[00:09:21] to pharma and guys in white coats telling you what pharma can do for you. Right? So true. Okay. I'm done on that rant. Um, I just, I just want people to tell their elected officials where to stick it basically because they're, they're just filling us with so many lies and there's proof right in front of their faces and they won't look at it. And I actually knew a mayor that just honestly went, well, the water conservancy didn't say that.
[00:09:47] So it's not true. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, it's literally in front of your face. I mean, what, what happens to people when they become elected officials, they become the mommies and daddies of the cities all over the United States without an inkling of brain matter. And I, it's so hard for me to digest that people could love government that much that they're willing to turn off their brain. Okay. And act like full on idiots and go, what do the government doesn't say that though?
[00:10:16] The government says we're in drought, we're in a drought. And I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. It's underfoot people. So go watch the movie Mully to start. And that'll give you a good starting point. The movie Mully can be accessed on Netflix and it's amazing. It teaches you where to, how to find water through prayer and, and what this guy did in Africa. Okay. With that shoved aside that we weren't going to go in, uh, where do you want to start that you have a few minutes in this section of the show? And then we'll move into more of that.
[00:10:43] Yeah. Well, I, I heard a little bit of your first hour and I noticed that you were talking about the dire wolves. Yes. Um, and, and you had brought up the fact that you wanted to know a little bit more about who's behind all of this, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bioscience company. So it's very interesting because I was just reading about this this morning and it turns out that the CIA actually has a nonprofit investment arm called In-Q-Tel. Yes.
[00:11:12] And why in the world does the CIA need a nonprofit investment arm and why are they so interested in CRISPR technology? So I'm just going to give you a couple of thoughts because they had put down why they were so interested. Um, and of course it's, there was climate change in there and all these, you know, mass avoiding mass extinction. Um, but really let's think about this genetically modifying animals to make them better at going into areas that attack drones can't.
[00:11:41] Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Right. Um, genetically modifying insects to create pestilence, to wipe out other countries. Agriculture. Yeah. Weapon of war basically. Yeah. Right. So de-extincting animals and setting them back into the wild that creates havoc on other countries ecosystems. Hmm. Interesting. So again, none of these things are good.
[00:12:05] And the fact that the CIA is very much, very interested in technology is extremely, um, disconcerting to me. It just makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up because I know that they have little, um, bugs like mosquitoes or fireflies. No, not fireflies. Uh, dragonflies. Yeah.
[00:12:28] That they have, that they have video of that they have programmed these insects and they will drop a payload via injection into individuals. Hmm. We'll be right back on that cheery note, uh, being cute. Tell why they're so invested in creation of all these de-extincting of things and all that. Be right back. Kate Daly show more with Maven Ray coming right back.
[00:12:51] This is the Kate Daly show. Okay. You can hear me.
[00:13:26] Okay. I'm sorry. You can hear Maven Ray over the music. Um, all right. Back here with me back. It's live. What can I say? Um, it's crazy radio. That's all there is to it. Uh, for some reason they're really messing with Skype today.
[00:13:50] And so, uh, there's not much I can do about that, but I can tell you that I will answer some calls. And, um, for some reason they're just, it's just crazyville. It's crazyville. Okay. Caller go right ahead. Do you ever issue retractions for false information? Uh, yes, I do. Actually. I do. Okay. How do we get that going? Oh, on what? On what topic? What would you like to berate me over? Because, uh, I do a lot of homework.
[00:14:20] I wouldn't need to do anything like that. Okay. Well, all right. Um, you know what? Email me. Um, I'm trying to get Maven Ray back on the line because we have problems with Skype. Um, but I do, I've actually done six retractions over the course of the show, six retractions, and I don't have any problem doing a retraction. And I always promised you guys I would. And so if somebody has a beef with my comments on water and telling elected officials
[00:14:45] where to stick it, um, you can go right to my email and email me. And if I have made a mistake, I literally will get on my show and do a retraction on the air. Okay. Are you with me, Maven Ray? I am here. Can you hear me? That is just so weird. Uh, Skype is going out of business in May and we just are having huge problems. It keeps kicking us off Skype and it's being really weird. So I'm not quite sure why. Okay. So coming back and sorry for all the craziness coming back. Um,
[00:15:16] um, all right. Uh, so let's go from here on the show. I just really want people to understand that we are not in a drought and you can go back and listen to a show that I did with an actual person that does water, witching, water, divining, water, dousing, and they actually have the two rods or sticks and it goes, they have a divine gift from God in finding water. These, these people that do
[00:15:40] it, but I had one on that was in his nineties and he was fantastic and found water sources for people. And I just thought it was amazing that, uh, that he could do that. And amazing that, um, that he had that skill and talent and these, this exists and it's real and they were doing it for centuries and, um, you can find water underfoot. Okay. No matter what anyone says, um, or how, however many people want me to retract, I'm not going to retract that because I know that for
[00:16:10] sure. All right. So go ahead, Maven Ray, where did you want to go from here? Well, since you brought up having gifts from God, um, I wanted to, I've been listening to, um, this podcast called the telepathy tapes. Okay. And it's been released for the last couple of months. Um, and it's spreading across the internet, honestly, like wildfire, but it's been kept
[00:16:36] somewhat quiet. Um, it seems like people are a little bit afraid to talk about the subject matter, which is, which is kind of sad, but it is kind of out there, especially if you have a hard time, um, believing in a higher power. Okay. So, um, the telepathy tapes are about, well, and I, I'm going to just put this out there until you've listened to all 10 episodes of this season that they
[00:17:06] have out. Yeah. You probably want to refrain from judging the conversation just because you need to hear it from the primary sources, right? Okay. Um, but I'm going to go ahead and summarize a little bit as to what they are dealing with. So with the telepathy tapes, how it got started was back in the day when you'd have an isolated family that would have a child who was autistic. And when I say autistic,
[00:17:34] I mean, they cannot speak, they are rocking, they, they can't control their body. Okay. Okay. Um, very extreme autism. Okay. Um, and back, and back then these parents were so isolated and they were trying anything that the doctors would tell them in order to communicate with their child. And, you know, we kind of have our hunches as to how this all got started. Right. And, you know,
[00:18:01] we've talked about that verbatim, you know, ad nauseum, but this is focused really on the gifts that these children seem to have and how, and how it is that they have been able to start to communicate with their family and with other, other children who have autism that leaves them not being able to verbalize and to move their body. Wow. Okay. All right. We're going to go to,
[00:18:29] we're going to go to, we're going to go to break. We're going to go to break. We'll be right back. Kate Daly show, katedalyradio.com. You can email me anything, even something you want me to retract that I actually think is true. I've done my research. Kate at katedalyradio.com. I'd love to hear
[00:18:44] from you. Be right back with Maven Ray. This is the Kate Daly show. Hi, welcome back. Kate Daly show
[00:19:12] for you. And I have Maven Ray on with me. Always, always fun to have her. And of course, email me katedkatedalyradio.com. I love your emails. And even if you think you're correcting me or are correcting me or whatever, I'm fine with that too. Just send me an email katedkatedalyradio.com. And I've even brought those up on the show too, because I like to talk about those things. But in radio, it's funny because we were told, you know, in the very, very beginning of radio, I was told,
[00:19:41] no, never, ever retract ever, never, never. I don't believe that. I actually think you should retract if the information you gave wasn't good. And so I'm always open to that. If you can come up with some viable explanation as to why I was wrong, do it and I'll do it on the show. And you'll see me do that. You've heard me do that. I've done it six times in 14 years. And I'm actually proud of that because I was told not to do that. You just always just don't do that. I think you should do
[00:20:06] that. I think all hosts should do that. Also, I just wanted to mention xamericannews.com, xamericannews.com. I'm on there and also on X on X America News. You can actually watch the show on there. And FIQ, FIQsupplements.com is where I get my supplements. And I love this company because of the ingredients. The ingredients are high, high, high quality. And that's what's important to me is that your body digests them. So there you go. FIQsupplements.com to get a discount. I think
[00:20:36] it's like 15%. You can use the code Kate. FIQsupplementswithaness.com. All right, Maven Ray, let's keep going. You opened up a really interesting dialogue. Let's go. For sure. So Kai Dickens is a filmmaker and she kind of stumbled across this story by accident. She ended up learning of this woman who was named Dr. Diane Hessanini Powell. And she started listening
[00:21:03] to her speaking on a podcast about her research into telepathy and it really piqued her interest. So these two kind of got together. And just to give a little bit of background on Dr. Powell, she applied to medical school. She went to Johns Hopkins. And while she was there, she continued to do neuroscience research. And instead of staying on at the Hopkins facility, she decided to move on and out to Harvard. So she's got some legitimate academic credentials.
[00:21:33] And she really didn't know what to expect when she got into this. But she was very skeptical, right? So all of these different parents, as time went on, as more and more families had children with autism that was severe, thank goodness for the internet, they were able to kind of get together in little pods in their community. And they started to teach each other
[00:21:58] what they had learned and how they could start to communicate with their children. And finally, one of these parents ended up coming to Dr. Powell because she was studying savant skills. And if you'll remember savants or individuals that, you know, maybe they, they hear a piano and all of a sudden they can just play everything that they hear or, you know, they, um, they can like Rain Man
[00:22:26] in that movie, right? He could tell you anything on a calendar type of a thing. Okay. But this was a little bit different, but the parent came to Dr. Powell and she said, look, I'm actually not sure if my child is a savant, but I think that they're reading my mind. So what ended up coming out from all of this and, and contacting all these different parents and getting them together was that they,
[00:22:53] they decided to do a lot of different tests on these kids with, with their parent, with the person that they were most connected to their teacher, their parent. And all of this seemed to really come about through a love connection through somebody who deeply cared about this person and vice versa. Okay. Um, so what they end up doing is they would have to teach the child if they had, didn't know
[00:23:17] already how to use like a, a letter board to spell out what it was that they were trying to communicate. So they had to teach them how to read and how to spell, right? So there were some steps before this happening, but one, one child, um, in this whole series, he is in his twenties and he has, he can, he rocks uncontrollably, but he can use this, uh, letter board to communicate with his mother.
[00:23:46] And, um, he had met another child who for like 15 years, um, after being totally normal, receiving shot and then going, the mom watching the child slip away from her. The mom didn't know what else to do. She found this other autistic family and he advised the mother and said, your son is in there. Have my mom help you. This is going to be amazing. Right. And, and so through
[00:24:16] that process, this mom that they follow, not only taught her son to read and how to spell. So then he could start to communicate, but then all of a sudden she started to try and teach him things that she thought was important. And they ended up, um, going into the declaration of independence and she asked her son if he knew what that was. And he said, Oh yes. And she's like, are you kidding? And he's like, no. And he started to recite the declaration of independence to her. Oh wow. And
[00:24:46] she was like, how, how do you know these things? Right. And at first he was very timid as to telling her how it was that he was able to know this. He knew they asked some questions about history, about, you know, uh, she's like, do you know any other documents, United States, uh, historical documents? He's like, yes, I know the Gettysburg address. Right. And he took like 11 minutes and typed out like the first couple lines of the Gettysburg address. He's never seen, or they've
[00:25:14] never talked to him about any of this. Oh my. So what a lot of, a lot of their findings came to be was that they would do these tests with these children. They would have the parent or the teacher, um, put something on like type out a number sequence or type out, um, a word or a picture or a color. And the, uh, the child in another room, um, would end up giving them exactly what it was
[00:25:41] that they had shown on the screen. Okay. And it was 95% accurate. So what it was very interesting, um, listening to this was finally the son of this mother decided to kind of open up and, and explain to her, there are other autistic children around the world and we all visit each other. We all go to this other place because we can basically take our consciousness and we can
[00:26:11] other area and we all get together and we can all basically live outside of our constrained body. And, and that's how he was able and why he knew all this information. He said, honestly, I can communicate with individuals that have gone before me. So all these different ancestors that we have like Thomas Jefferson or George Washington or Abraham Lincoln, yeah, I can see, I can talk with
[00:26:38] them and they have taught me all these different things. Right. So the knowledge base that, that is in these individuals that have this gift, um, number one, they're way smarter than any person on the earth right now. Um, but, but they're, they're people, they, their spirits are strong. They're smart. They're intelligent. It's just that their body is failing them. And what's interesting about all of
[00:27:06] that is a lot of people, you know, maybe they haven't thought about this or they're not going down that road, but I know that you had a guest on that did, um, on now, but the phrase left my brain, but he would project, they would give him some type of remote viewer. So, so we, so connecting the dots here, remote viewing happened in what the sixties, seventies. Yeah. Well, if they say it's still
[00:27:34] happening today, but yeah, mostly in like the seventies and eighties, right? Exactly. But they found, but they found out of that, that some people had like a predisposition to be good at some at this and others could not do it. Right. It was a gift that was given and they couldn't really force anybody to do it. They could try to teach them, but you had those who had that skillset already. Okay. And, and this just kind of made me really curious, which came first, the chicken or the egg?
[00:28:04] Did they find these remote viewers? And now we've had this, um, CDC childhood vaccination schedule that's been pushed on people. Are we trying to create individuals that have this certain skillset? And by doing so we've created, you know, this awfulness, right? Right. But you can't use their body. Um, it was just something that I connect those two things. I thought, Oh my goodness. Okay. Interesting. Fascinating. Okay. Come right back with, uh, Maven Ray on the Kate Daly show,
[00:28:34] katedalyradio.com, which is where you can find, uh, the, uh, podcast, katedalyradio.com of this here live show. Be right back. Is the Kate Daly show.
[00:28:59] You're listening to the Kate Daly show and I really appreciate, uh, you tuned in being tuned in today. I can talk. I've got, uh, Maven Ray with me and she always brings something so interesting, uh, to the show. And I always, I always want to listen to what she's got. She's always, she's a great researcher. Uh, but Maven Ray, okay. Take it from here. Cause there's
[00:29:28] just so many things to go from here, but we could talk about. So go ahead. Yeah. Well, tis the season, um, of Easter that's coming up and it got, it got me thinking about, um, uh, uh, uh, interview that I had heard recently, um, that discussed the shroud of Turin and I'm sure, well, I was not really very familiar with the shroud of Turin until
[00:29:53] I heard about this and I looked it up. Um, but the president of Christian thinker society, Jeremiah, Jeremiah Johnston, he wanted, he brought forth a lot of amazing scientific discoveries that have come up just recently to really back up the shroud of Turin's validity. And I remember as a kid kind of hearing about it and then, um, you know, hearing about some carbon dating
[00:30:18] thing and that they debunked it and they thought that it was all just a fraud. Well, now scholars and scientists have performed new tests with a new form of technology and what they found not only gives us more insight into what that piece of cloth was all about, but it really gives us a deeper, at least to me, it gives me a deeper understanding of what Christ went
[00:30:46] through what Jesus suffered through. And then the coolest part, his resurrection, right? Nice. Yeah. So, you know, Jesus of Nazareth, um, we've, we've heard the stories. He was wrapped, right? And he was laid in a burial tomb. The cloth is like 14 inches long by three feet wide. And we all know that he wasn't a rich man, um, that Joseph of Arimathea, you know, had purchased
[00:31:10] this for himself for his own pre-death planning. Um, and then ended up, you know, sharing that with Jesus's family. Um, we are all familiar that Jesus was executed in an excruciating fashion as a criminal. Um, but he ended up being buried as a King with this shroud. And the cool part about all this evidence is it really gives validity to that. So the, the cool part is with this shroud,
[00:31:37] it is documented starting in John chapter 20, um, where it's given all these different names. And if we think about that, if, if we're looking at the, the middle East, a lot of names have changed, right? Babylon, Babylon, or, you know, Persia, and now they're known as different things, but they all still mean the same place. And that's kind of interesting to know that yes, they were referring
[00:32:04] to his, um, burial cloth just as early as John chapter 20. So the interesting thing about the burial garment, um, is that it passed through so many hands, which I didn't realize. And, um, the burial garment of Jesus was given to Thomas, one of his apostles, and then it went to the kingdom of Esau where a King is said to have actually been healed by it. And there it stays until the Muslim
[00:32:30] invasion of the sixth century when it, um, then it went to Constantinople and we read about it showing up there. Eventually it ends up in France and it's been in private hands, the majority of his, of its existence. And finally it was turned over to the Catholic Pope in 1985. So really and truly not many people had access to this. Um, and really it was held in private hands, nobility hands, the hands of a
[00:33:00] knight. It would be brought out for special occasions. Um, like if you were having a dignitary over for dinner, you, you would bring the Shroud of Shorn out. Sounds so weird, right? Right. Um, to impress your guests. But, um, the crazy part is, is that pieces of the shroud were given away to dignitaries as gifts, or sometimes as part of marriage dowries. Um, just seems so strange. Here, have this piece of
[00:33:24] paper. Yeah, right? Wow. Kind of crazy. Um, and we, you can also see the, the history of the shroud in the artwork of the day, in the coins of the time that were happening in the different lands, um, that it was actually that face that is on the shroud was on coinage. It was in artwork. People were familiar with that. So that was very, very interesting. Um, and I didn't realize that
[00:33:51] meant that there is one man that's offered over a million British pounds to anybody who can duplicate what's in the shroud of Turin. And so far, nobody has stepped forth. So clearly this isn't something that is easily as easily as they claim can be forged. Right. But, um, in, in, as far as the carbon dating goes, it's very interesting because they used a new process to look at the shroud of Turin
[00:34:17] and they call it waxes dating. And that stands for wide angle x-ray scattering. So they took a correct sample of the shroud because, well, I guess I should back up a little bit when they did the carbon 14 dating, they ended up taking a patch that had, that had happened because with all of this shuffling around, um, it had been through three different fires. And when it was in France, the nuns there
[00:34:43] actually, um, they stitched up the edges of it because it was fraying and they also put patches in that had, um, that had just cotton in, in this shroud. And the shroud was actually made of linen, a very high expensive, um, herringbone weave linen that only dignitaries could have access to. Right. But when they took the sample back in 19, in the 1980s to do this carbon 14 dating,
[00:35:10] they took one of the patches and that's why they were saying it was a medieval forgery. So what they ended up doing was they use this wide angle x-ray scattering technique to look at a legit section of the shroud that was not patched. And what they found was that this garment had been degradating for 2000 years, meaning that it's been getting old for 2000 years and not 700.
[00:35:40] So right there, it's like, okay, you know, this is, this is amazing. We have other artifacts of, uh, clothing that go even older than the shroud of Turin dating back 3000 years ago that are linen. So clearly linen is a very stable material and given the right circumstances, this is not unheard of to have it last this long. Now, what was fascinating about the shroud is that the majority of it is covered in blood, right? There are pints and pints of blood all over the
[00:36:08] shroud. There were 50 abrasions, um, that were just around his head because it turns out that the crown of thorns that we think of, the, the Romans were just diabolical at their way to torture people. And they didn't make a crown so much as a helmet. Um, and so there, there were so many lacerations, right? That were just on his head. They counted 372 lacerations from that flagrant, that Roman whip,
[00:36:35] and that's not counting the sides of Christ. Right. So it was, it was very, very excruciating that, that whipping that occurred there. Um, they had blood experts come and test the blood and it did come back human. And the interesting thing was, is that they tested the blood type and it was AB. Well, less than 3% of the world's population has AB blood and it's primarily found
[00:37:03] in the land of Israel. The blood was male and they tested the chromosomes. And it was so interesting because, um, the wound on the side, the Lance wound, uh, lines up perfectly with the historical account. Wow. I wish we had more time. Darn it. Okay. We're going to do part two on this. I have a feeling with Maven Ray when she comes back next and of course be faithful, be fearless. Thank you. But I was informative. Um, and of course be faithful, be fearless. See you back here tomorrow. And,
[00:37:32] uh, thanks again. Wow.