[00:00:10] Don't care if it takes the entire show today. We will not stop until we've figured out all of our gender options. The Kate Dalley Show starts now. I grow up, I want to work for a woke company. Like super woke. When I grow up, when I grow up, I want to be hired based on what I look like rather than my skills. I want to be judged by my political beliefs. I want to get promoted based on my chromosomes. When I grow up, I want to be offended by my co-workers and walk around the office on eggshells and have my words police.
[00:00:40] By HR. Words like grandfather, peanut gallery, long time no see, no can do. When I grow up, I want to be obsessed with emotional safety and do workplace sensitivity training all day long. When I grow up, I want to climb the corporate ladder just by following the crowd. I want to be a conformist. I want to weaponize my pronouns. What are pronouns? It's time to grow up and get back to work.
[00:01:10] Welcome, Kate Dalley Show. Oh, man. I can't wait to hear what Dr. Duke Pesta thinks of that. And also, welcome to the show today. On today's show, I have Dr. Duke Pesta followed by Mike Lindell in the next hour from MyPillow. So, a fun show today. And, Dr. Duke Pesta, what did you think when you heard that? I thought they weren't woke enough.
[00:01:33] I mean, how about, I want to be able to have a litter box in my, in lieu of a bathroom because I am a furry. I mean, there's so many ways that that commercial was inadequate. Oh, man. It messed me up. Okay. So, I can't wait to hear what you have to say. In fact, on the woke subject, can we please talk about Snow White for a second?
[00:01:55] Because there have been so many great comments from people just, I mean, incinerating this thing. And it is. Because Disney is a product of itself, which is kind of horrid anyway. So, give me your take on Snow White because this is a different tale of Snow White. Yeah, I think we're going to have to talk about this for more than just a second because this is an avatar of where we are in the 21st.
[00:02:20] And this is literally a full holographic avatar of where we are. And what do we see? To start the macroscopic look at this. This is a woke company who just last week, remember, Kate, the top shareholders all voted to keep wokeness and DEI at Disney.
[00:02:46] So, the vast majority of shareholders didn't have enough clout. But the big progressives who owned most of the stock, they voted to keep all of this. And they knew what was coming down the road with Snow White. They knew exactly what was going to happen. They knew it was going to be a disaster. They knew that they hired a brown person with a big mouth to become a white person in Snow White. She knew all this. And in spite of that, they voted to keep this. This is the left in this country.
[00:03:16] They are banging their heads against the wall. They're doubling down on stupid. They're waging war. They're standing behind Luigi Mangione because he's a hottie, because he killed somebody in the insurance game. They're standing behind him. They're burning down Teslas. Well, they're burning down Teslas. They're burning down Teslas, but they're for electric cars. It doesn't make sense. Well, this is my point.
[00:03:42] They have proven that all of their advocacy for green energy was just a con. They don't care. All they care is, is it a liberal or a conservative joint? And if it's a conservative joint, let the planet go to hell. Right. Right. They'll burn it all down. And this is who they are.
[00:04:01] And so without even talking yet about Snow White, the movie, I think all these things and these views from 30,000 feet are very sobering. And they're very true and honest that they're spinning their wheels. And what we now know is the American progressive, the progressive left in the last 50 years, every cause they choose to champion is not because they don't give a rat's behind. I mean, about any of those causes.
[00:04:30] What have they done for black people in 60 years? What have they done for anybody? Right. And notice, by the way, once for the left, once a cause is no longer popular, they're just like environmentalism. In America, the American people aren't interested. And so they drop it. Now they move on to other things. And so that's where we stand before we even consider one ugly note of that stupid movie.
[00:04:56] So tell people a little about the movie because it's very interesting what got erased. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. I mean, there's two things that you have to have with a fairy tale. Fairy tales are strange. They're odd. They have odd characters doing odd things. There's magic. There's witchcraft. There's fairy godmothers. They're first very strange places.
[00:05:22] And the second thing you have to have to have a fairy tale is a moral to the story. There has to be an uplifting, humane morality. Right. Because that's at the core of all fairy tales. And somehow Disney could not do either one of those things. They took the beautiful magic and singing and they took all the supernatural elements of Snow White and they woke-ified it. Right.
[00:05:49] They erased all of the beautiful strangeness of that story with woke DEI hires. They ruined it. And when it came down to the moral, the beautiful moral of Snow White about perseverance, about true love, about sacrifice, they got rid of all of that. All of it. And the only moral of the story, there was no moral to it. I mean, they stripped it of anything that was morally serious.
[00:06:17] And so at the end of the day, what they did is they took one of the great – the great fairy tales that built Disney Studios. It was in 1937. Before that, they were an interesting American company. After that, they were a world powerhouse. The very – and what did they do in 1937? They created a beautifully strange fairy tale full of beautiful, I must say very Christian moral understandings of love and sacrifice.
[00:06:47] And so fast forward today. Disney managed to take a poop on both sides of the fairy tale. And so it doesn't work as a strange – when you look at that last scene with all those white people dancing around in white outfits and jumping around, that would have been embarrassing for the Wizard of Oz in 1938, right? It would have been embarrassing. So true. It was so cheesy, right? So true, yeah.
[00:07:14] And of course, it's a story about dwarves. Were there any of them all? I know. And there's articles. You wouldn't hear any of them. There are articles about them. I like feeling disregarded and erased. They're like, where are we? Why aren't we showing up? Yes. You're right. Go ahead. Sorry. That's a classic example of how the left moves on. Peter Dinklage, who is a progressive first and a dwarf second, told Disney,
[00:07:41] don't you dare put people who look like me in that story, even though the story is about people who look like me. He says, I'm a progressive more than I'm a dwarf. So screw you. If I see any dwarves getting jobs besides me, we're going to sue you. So, again, you're always a progressive before you're a minority. And that's what you saw there. And so what did they do?
[00:08:03] They took another poop on all the dwarves who were ready made for this movie and could have had a chance of making some money and getting some visibility. No, no. They had to get rid of that because their progressive ideology uses minorities and then throws them away. So true. So true. In fact, we haven't even talked about Ziegler yet, by the way. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I just wanted to insert here that people are saying, was this written by AI?
[00:08:30] It's heartless, soulless, has zero anything to it that sounds even remotely like somebody human wrote this thing. And also that they use animated magical creatures instead. They just changed the entire story. It's not Snow White, so they shouldn't call it Snow White. But I want to hear about Rachel. Yes. Ziegler. And at the center of this is a vain, selfish. I mean, she should have been. People have pointed this out.
[00:08:56] Her personality, her actual human personality would have been absolutely perfect for the wicked witch in the queen, the evil queen. Yeah. That's who she should have been. I mean, she is so venal. How about that video she released? It was a day before the movie came out where she was doing her makeup and staring at herself in a mirror while talking to her adoring fans. Is there a better image of that? Think about it. Here she was.
[00:09:24] She was painting her face, talking about how she has the most wonderful cheekbones, that she was blessed with wonderful cheekbones, going on and on about how, you know, people will always line up to see me. They'll always pay money to see what I do, regardless of what happens with this movie. I mean, she's talking into a mirror. She is literally both the wicked dude in the mirror and the evil queen. And so they cast her as the DEI hero. Unfrickin' believable.
[00:09:53] I don't even know where to start with this thing. And I still can't believe they named it Snow White because how do you change a story that drastically? I mean, my own uncle actually worked at Disney. He worked on The Forest for this movie. And I just, I go back to that time and you're thinking, well, this is a completely different message, a completely different movie. And now we have Rachel Zegler, who is the woman, power woman demanding to be adorned and noticed.
[00:10:21] It's all about feminism. The story of Snow White isn't even there, really. It's just feminism, right? To answer your question, the reason they called it Snow White, because who would have watched it if they gave it by its real name? Woke Scare Porn. I mean, come out, kids, and walk some DEI Scare Porn. Come on out. Nobody would have come. The irony is that they dared to call it Snow White. And still nobody showed up.
[00:10:50] One of my favorite comments from all the wags out there who are just attacking it, Snow White and the seven tickets. That's about all. Snow White and the seven tickets. There you go. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it's amazing. You know what? I actually thought because of some of the things in politics that have happened lately that they were actually going to shift this film into something decent, but they didn't. They went even worse than I thought they were going to go. They did.
[00:11:18] The progressive left, and Disney represents that, they started by whispering 10 years ago, F you is what they whispered at it. Then in the election, very, very full-froatedly, they said F you. Now with Snow White, they're screaming in your face, F you. And then they wonder why they're losing money. They keep getting louder and louder, more venal and more venal.
[00:11:42] And their choices, their selections, the things that they choose to do are destroying themselves, but they cannot course correct. Well, it's bizarre. When I said that, you know, they're cheering on ruining Teslas, right, and causing vandals on Teslas, the very electric car that they're there to promote. Same thing with COVID. They wanted families separated during COVID. They wanted people dying alone, but they don't want families separated with, you know, foreign aliens coming over the border.
[00:12:12] So you have a very screwed up group of people in America who have the microphone and are the loudest. And it always amazes me at the sheer hypocrisy, but it's almost, it's beyond hypocrisy into insanity because of what they do. I just marvel at it. I'm just astounded. And look what they did to the prince. I mean, half your audience is dads, right? And four little boys. Right.
[00:12:38] And what you did is you turned the love interest into a non-entity. Yes, yes. What exactly is his purpose in the movie? I have no idea. We're going to come right back on that. Dr. Pesta joins me. We'll come right back. Kate Daly Radio. KateDalyRadio.com. Be right back. Join us. Be right back.
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[00:15:26] Remember, the entire Star Wars franchise was destroyed by a Disney female Disney exec who decided when she took over the franchise, one of the most lucrative in the history of movies, she decided she was going to make it woke and female. And what, six or seven movies later, no one watches it anymore. And so you can't uplift women. Feminists, listen to me.
[00:15:56] Trans idiots out there listening, listen to me. You can't raise up women by erasing men. You can't do it. You will not do it. There will be a huge gap. You need the story of Snow White absolutely needs a man, a strong man at the center of it for her to be strong. In fact, the dwarves aren't strong. They are comic relief. They are not the focus. Right.
[00:16:23] The focus is that she, in order to be who she needs to be, Snow White, she needs to do that in conjunction with a man. He needs to be who he is for what he's able to do sacrificially for her. That's the point. You get rid of all of that. You destroy the story. But they'll never learn that lesson. No, they won't.
[00:16:45] Remember Wonder Woman in the, was it the movie or the beginning of the series when it was all women on an island and anytime a man came, they went nuts because they wanted a man to stay. Because the women's island wasn't really working out for them. Okay. Because it was all women. And so the Men or Pigs project started years ago. It started in the 60s.
[00:17:05] And it was every show, every movie, everything in the media would then create a Men or Pigs unnecessary, not vital, you don't need them, you're better than them, smarter than them, and they are just a lump sitting on a couch. So it doesn't surprise me that this movie took the Snow White movie, is nothing like the Snow White movie, and went in the direction of Men or Pigs. That's what they're trying to do. That doesn't surprise anybody. And of course, at their very heart, at the core of fairy tales is love.
[00:17:34] Love is the point of the fairy tale. Love of God, love of your wife, your husband, love of nature, love of all of that. And what the left doesn't realize, you can't just love yourself. This goes back to the 1980s. Remember Whitney Houston sang that song, the greatest love of all, was learning to love yourself.
[00:17:59] I mean, could you have a more stark contrast between that and Christianity? When whoever you are, you must love everybody else like yourself. And you must love God with your whole heart, mind, and soul. That ethos created the culture that gave rise to women's rights, that gave women the right to vote. It was that kind of thinking that got rid of slavery, Western culture, before anybody else did.
[00:18:28] And that love requires someone to be beloved. Yes. What the left keeps talking to you about is how you've got to love yourself. And, again, I repeat, is there a better avatar of wasted and hypocritical self-love than the way that Rachel Ziegler carries on? She loves herself so much. It doesn't matter to her if Disney just slushed $300 million down the toilet. It doesn't matter. People are going to watch her.
[00:18:58] She's staring into her vanity, her vanity mirror, putting her makeup on, talking in rows. But the love of self is one of the great – in fact, it's called pride. It's the chief of the seven deadly sins. Yes. And feminism and this woke ideology is pushing it. Yep. Yep. You're exactly right. I'm going to come right back more with the great Dr. Duke Pesta, the only conservative professor in America that speaks out in this way. I love it. Be right back.
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[00:21:01] This is the Kate Daly Show. All right. Welcome back. Hey, Daly Show. So cute and innocent. All right. Welcome back. A little Snow White song for you. And it explains what they've just done to it. It explains a lot about our society. That's why I wanted to talk about it today.
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[00:22:31] Well, there's a couple of things. Go back to the song that you played, Whistle While You Work. Okay. In the original, Snow White shows up and the dwarves are kind of sloppy because they don't have a woman around. Right. And so she comes up with this wonderful song. She engages the dwarves. Right. But Snow White and the dwarves clean up. It's a partnership, almost like a kind of a marriage, right? Yeah, yeah. The house is not a home without a woman. Right.
[00:22:58] So she comes in and she kind of figuratively marries them, but she doesn't do it for them. She works with them. Ziegler said that we weren't having any of that. She goes into the house and basically tells them to get your act together. Right. You guys have made a mess. I'm not going to cook for you. I'm not going to clean for you. That's not feminism. You guys need to clean up. Notice the arrogance. If I'm going to stay with you, you're going to have to clean your house for me.
[00:23:28] Right. That vanity that you see. But the broader question is exactly what you just brought up. Why is Disney doing this? And I go back to what I said before. They are just the largest avatar. This is what progressives are doing globally. Right. Right. Right. They're throwing a collective hissy fit because they thought when Barack Obama won, the world was theirs. It was just a match. And then it would be Hillary. And they never in dream.
[00:23:55] And even when they got stuck with Trump in 2016, all the skullduggery they did against Trump, they were Trump. They were convinced that they would not have it would be progressive for the rest of the world. Now you've got one American president who has actually put him around, surrounded himself with a very media savvy group of cabinet members.
[00:24:18] And they're not, they're not, you know, hyper conservative like you and I might might like, but they're certainly better than what we've seen in a long time. And the left doesn't know how to respond to this for 20 years, 30 years, 40 years. They have not had to explain. The media was always there to lie for them. It's not working now. So they, they've long ago forgot why they were in this fight. And so they, they can't define it.
[00:24:47] They can't speak about it anymore. All they can do is keep doing what they've been doing for 40 years. And the fact that it doesn't work, I mean, they, they've long, they, they are so far out of their depths here. They, it's been so long since they've had to engage in actual arguments for their position. But they can't do it anymore. Well, I mean, there's certainly, just like we mentioned in the beginning, I mean, you're, you're cheering on the electric car and complaining about the oil companies, but you're told to destroy the electric car.
[00:25:16] It doesn't make any, it doesn't make any. And we talked about fathers, right? Yeah. There's that. And Tim Waltz of Minnesota, former VP candidate. So he came out a couple of days ago. He looked at Trump and he said, the only reason that guy won is because he pretended to be macho. That's the only thing that Tim Waltz was smart enough to pull away from the last election. So what did he do last week? He basically said, we can kick their asses.
[00:25:44] I mean, I can beat up any of these Republican guys. I mean, I'm more masculine than they are and nobody bought that, especially women. Well, he has the jazz hands. Go ahead. Yeah. Jazz hands, right? Yeah. And so yesterday he got so much grief that he actually walked it back. This is typical progressive, right? He found out, which you probably didn't even know, that the state of Minnesota is deeply invested in Tesla for their retirement hedge fund, right?
[00:26:14] And so not only was he being a child by saying, I can beat you up, Elon Musk. He was actually losing money for his own people and his own state. So he kind of walked it back awkwardly. Think about how you were told that Steve Emhoff and Tim Waltz were the new masculinity. I just threw up a little. Exactly.
[00:26:37] Throw up in your mouth a little bit because they are, the word I wouldn't use for them, they're not effeminate. They're just crappy men. They're low caliber, self-righteous, unaccountable men. They're the worst kind of men, but they're men. Unappealing. And so that kind of masculinity, it doesn't sell. It doesn't sell. They're unappealing. They're feminine. I mean, you know, anyone I think that would marry Hormala, I don't know.
[00:27:06] I don't know what's in their head, if there is anything upstairs. But it is amazing to watch, and it's amazing to see Disney destroy itself because they sure have the attention of all the little kids in the land. And so when you tick off the parents like this and you keep doing this over and over and over to yourself, well, you're going to have. So it's just the whole revenue thing is just very bizarre. Usually when it comes to revenue, they want to save themselves in the end, right? Even if they're told to do the woke or that's behind the ambition.
[00:27:34] But it is very bizarre to see them do themselves, that they're doing this to themselves over and over and over again in the last 10 years. It's been amazing to watch. Well, as for Emhoff, he may have married Kamala, but that didn't stop him from diddling the Danny, right? I mean, so there's that aspect of him as well. But your point is exactly right. I mean, but I guess part of what I would say is Disney is so diversified. They have so many holdings.
[00:28:02] I think what they're thinking is the gem in the crown may be Disney, but we're making money across all kinds of different platforms. And so they feel like I think that they can hold the line here. And you've got to ask – I mean, here's the other thing. How is it possible that Disney could hire an actress like Rachel Ziegler and you're paying her a lot of money?
[00:28:29] How could they not even have a clause in her contract that says you're not going to badmouth your own movie? You're not going to pick on our production. You're not going to use your – until the movie is out and on video, right? Stop. You have no contract. You can't contractually say anything. We're not going to pay you. How childish is that? Who are their lawyers there, I wonder? I don't know. I don't know. It's strange.
[00:28:59] It really is. It's beyond that. It's beyond that level, I thought for sure, that they would mellow out a little bit, but no. And also, let's talk about the Department of Education. I know we have like a minute, so let's kick that off. What did you want to tell people about that? Well, I hope we can spend next week talking about this because it's still going to be an issue. Oh, and we will in the next segment. We will in the next segment too, but go ahead. Okay, very good.
[00:29:25] Well, I mean, realistically, the president can't get rid of it. And I think that we've got to stop talking about expecting that the president alone is going to get rid of this. It's not going to happen. But he can certainly gut it, and I think he's going to do it. He's also going to take, and this is the big thing, some of the important aspects of the Department of Education are going to be housed in other forms of government, right?
[00:29:51] So all the diversity money for special needs kids, that's going to go to health and human services. And the funny thing is, before they created the Department of Education, that's where it was. There was no need to create the Department of Education. I think the way this will work is if he's able to take what's useful and house it in other places, then there will be no real argument why you should keep it.
[00:30:17] And then maybe that very small majority of Republicans in the House, they might be able to make that vote. So we'll see. Okay. Be right back with Dr. Duke Pesta, Don't Go Anywhere, Kate Daly Show, and stay with us. Stay with us, katedalyradio.com. Be right back.
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[00:31:02] We're talking about Snow White, and then also, this is from Pinocchio, and then also I've got Dr. Duke Pesta on with me, of course. Mike Lindell is coming up in the next hour from MyPillow, and we'll talk to him about what's happened ever since with all the election fraud and everything else. So coming on back, get to the website. My sponsors are fabulous.
[00:31:31] And when you partake of what they've got, and I use what they've got, then you're supporting Truth On Air. So I love that. Thank you for that. And then also, hold on. I'm just trying to think if I'm missing something in this hour. Okay. So Dr. Duke Pesta is on with me and so grateful for him. And so anything else on Department of Education? And then we can talk about the lefties and vandalism if you want to. Whichever.
[00:31:59] We were just having a discussion off air that was good, too. So wherever you want to go. Yeah, the Department of Education. I mean, it's gleeful. I mean, we should be really grateful because we've had, ever since Ronald Reagan, right, every Republican president said he was going to get rid of the Department of Education. And not one of them did one single thing. In 60 days, Donald Trump has done more on that score than anybody else had.
[00:32:29] So, I mean, you're right, Kate. It's not going to go away. It'll be absorbed in other ways. And I would be very surprised if unless Congress and the Senate actually gets rid of it, the next Democrat president is going to put it right back and fund it three times more. I guarantee you. Yeah, for sure. For sure. We were talking off air. Maybe we should kind of share that conversation because we were talking about the lefties.
[00:32:57] I call them the lefty loonies because their thinking is just insanity. It just doesn't even make any sense anymore. And so they're kind of on a different planet now. And it used to be about their love of government. Now it's just nonsensical now. So that's why I call them leftist loonies. But it was talking about how we should classify the destruction of Teslas as domestic terrorism.
[00:33:19] And surprisingly, I don't agree with that because I don't like the terminology of domestic terrorism because what that does is it takes away our rights. And due to the Patriot Act and due to the NDA, when they can say you're a terrorist, you get nothing. You get absolutely your rights stripped of you for as long as they want to. And you don't get due process in the way that we should. Now, it is vandalism. It's hardcore vandalism. But I don't think terrorism is the way to go. What are your thoughts?
[00:33:49] Well, I think there's two ways of seeing it. If you're just keying a swastika in a Tesla or you're wiping your backside against it or you're puncturing the tires, that's one thing. And that certainly is vandalism. And we don't need to be classifying that as terrorism. However, if you are working in cahoots with organizations who are funding you, you are using Molotov cocktails.
[00:34:16] You are using pipe bombs to create wide kind of carnage. You're watching entire places burning in multiple cars. I think at that point, yeah, that is terrorism. So I think that to me the problem would be is if you conflated them. The idiot who uses his car keys to scratch up a Tesla, that's not by any means terrorism.
[00:34:46] But if you're using Molotov cocktails and you're working with agencies and you're coordinating with other groups, progressive groups, to actually burn things down and to throw bombs, yeah, I think that is terrorism. And as long as we keep those things, in fact, that would be a great civics example. Yeah. I mean, I totally disagree, though. I disagree in this way. And this is why I love Duke, because we can do this on the air.
[00:35:16] So I disagree because you can say attempted murder. You can say vandalism. You can say all of the things we always used to use when they came up with domestic terrorism. This was to classify people in a completely different group and then say that you do not have any rights, which is unconstitutional.
[00:35:36] So when we write no matter what they do, there's always there's always a there's always a prosecution for it that's severe for any kind of action they take. But if we if we codify this and we say, yes, there are domestic terrorists, it's going to be used against us, too, on the next go around. So that's why I'm a little. Well, I get the principle. I 100 percent do. But give me an example where throwing bombs was ever simply classified as vandalism. It's not.
[00:36:05] Well, that's not an attempted murder. Yes. So you have attempted murder or you have a lot of different charges that they can that they can utilize. But the term domestic terrorist when Harry Reid came out and said you are a domestic terrorist in this country. If you do X, Y and Z, this is when it went very, very wrong for our country because of that. Because of those acts that went through that said you don't get trial. You don't get to see your evidence. You can sit in rotten prison forever.
[00:36:34] And so if there if if we are OK with this happening to them, then we're going to have to be OK with it happening to us. And I'm not OK with the total loss of due process. Just that. So what you're saying, basically, that the term domestic terrorism is an oxymoron. It doesn't exist. It will. It doesn't. And so what they did was they they promoted this terminology to say, see, you don't even get your evidence. You don't you don't even get a trial.
[00:37:01] We can stick you in prison for several years and nobody will know because you're not going to be privy to anything. We're not going to give you an ounce of due process that is actually guaranteed to you in that constitution. Now, I know there's some pretty bad folks out there, but we can't go around saying domestic terrorism because of what that of what that means in this country now. And so I would love to see people like this fry for what they're doing, but I don't want it done under domestic terrorism.
[00:37:26] So it seems like what we're saying is, is that the only terrorism can be noncitizens pretty much. Right. And that's what would you include on noncitizens to come into this country and do horrible things? I mean, would would would the moniker apply that? Well, it depends if our laws are going to be applied to that person, to what they're doing over here. And so we've had a lot of problems in the past with that and whether or not to apply our laws because they're not citizens.
[00:37:56] And so that's a that's a whole different conversation. But so that's just terrorism. So, right. So you have international terror. You have terrorism. But then when they went to domestic terrorism, that was specifically pointing out U.S. citizens are terrorists. And so that's why that term is horrid. And we should actually say no to that. All Americans should be up against that because it's not right. It's completely unconstitutional. Right. Well, it goes back to the question of terrorism. Is it possible?
[00:38:25] To me, it seems flimsy to say you act like a terrorism. You do the things that terrorists do. But simply because you're a citizen, you can't be charged with those things. That's where I fall down a little bit. OK, well, it depends on what they're doing, though. So this would be under attempted murder, attempt, you know, all kinds of different charges, plus, obviously, vandalism, plus all these charges. Right. They're really good at piling charges.
[00:38:54] There's enough charges there without domestic terrorism being part of it. And certainly arson is a major crime. Yes. And that's what they're engaging in. Yes. So they can get them on that. You don't necessarily have to go. But again, the. Right. Anyway, we're out of time. Yeah. But I love this conversation, though, because these are the conversations that need to be had. We do not want this terminology. We should all be against it, I think. And throw this one out because there's enough there to go after bad guys that do bad things.
[00:39:23] I so appreciate, though. I appreciate this conversation. Thank you, Dr. Duke Pesta. And, of course, I'll be right back. Kate Daly Show, katedalyradio.com. Be right back.