[00:00:06] Welcome to the Kate Dalley Show. Ooh, we just love the smell of chemtrails in the morning. The Kate Dalley Show starts now. I could argue in the developed countries, the big winners are countries that have shrinking populations. We'll be able to elevate the standard of living of countries, the standard of living of individuals, even with shrinking populations.
[00:00:31] It's still actively burning in the Texas Panhandle right now, the windmill fire north of Amarillo. It's the largest wildfire in Texas right now, more than 23,000 acres. It started on Friday. In its first 24 hours, it grew to more than 21,000 acres. Another example is the array of technologies, often referred to collectively as geoengineering, that potentially could help reverse the warming effects of global climate change.
[00:00:59] One that has gained my personal attention is stratospheric aerosol injection, or SAI, a method of seeding the stratosphere with particles that can help reflect the sun's heat in much the same way that volcanic eruptions do. An SAI program could limit global temperature increases, reducing some risks associated with higher temperatures, and providing the world economy additional time to transition from fossil fuels.
[00:01:25] This process is also relatively inexpensive. The National Research Council estimates that a fully deployed SAI program would cost about $10 billion yearly. That was a little communist John Brennan CIA talking about the aerosols.
[00:01:49] Anyway, welcome to the show. Sorry I was out yesterday. I had an eye infection, and I just, what else was I going to do? So, everything was blurry. I'm so, yeah. So, I did everything I could to be here today, and of course, live today. And I also have two amazing guests for you, of course. I've got Jim Lee and climateviewer.com. You're going to want to hear what he has to say. There's lots of bills going through right now for chemtrails.
[00:02:18] And then also, followed by Mel Madison on the economy and some of the insights he brings to the show on what happens next and some of the loans and all kinds of things. So, we have a lot to talk about today. And Jim Lee, we're going to start with you. How are you? Pretty good. Want to find out about it? Yes. Something I'm used to. Yeah. And I love having Jim on the show. He's amazing.
[00:02:42] So, you always bring a different perspective and different insights to the truth about chemtrails, the truth about climate, the truth about all kinds of stuff. And I just, I want people to go to your website, climateviewer.com, because they're going to get everything at a deeper level than what we're going to be able to hit today. But we're going to be able to hit a lot of strong points today as well. So, there's lots of bills going through. Let's start there. And the Senate bills. Can you kind of fill me in, even with Florida, what's happening in Florida?
[00:03:11] Because it's also happening in my state, too. But I want to see what you've got to say about this. Can't wait. So, we can roll back a little bit. Okay, sure. For those that aren't familiar with the terms geoengineering, weather modification, or even space weather modification, for that matter. I think it's far up in sounding rockets. You can go to weathermodificationhistory.com. Weathermodificationhistory.com.
[00:03:41] What you're going to see is the entire history of weather control from 1800 to present. Not only an interactive timeline, but over 800 newspaper articles. What you're not going to see is anything about chemtrails. And there's a reason. Okay. I'm making a separate website for that. Okay.
[00:04:00] And I'm making a separate website for that because just in the last year, Representative Monty Fritz from Tennessee passed the nation's first state geoengineering and weather modification ban. Mm-hmm. Now, a lot of people in Tennessee have been really upset because though they passed a bill banning weather modification and geoengineering,
[00:04:26] their skies are still blacked out by planes flying overhead making clouds and everybody scratching their head. Right. Two days ago, Monty was having a meeting with TDEC, which I think is like Tennessee Department of Environment or something like that, TDEC. Mm-hmm. And he asked them, you know, why haven't you guys done anything about this? They're like, we are understaffed or don't have the money. We don't have the equipment, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[00:04:56] But at the end of the day, the reality is that the Clean Air Act passed by the EPA's Clean Air Act said that no state shall regulate aviation emissions unless those regulations mirror that of the Clean Air Act set by the EPA. And this has been enforced by the Department of Transportation who gave it to the FAA.
[00:05:23] And under the FAA Act, no state shall impede interstate commerce of aviation. So here's the double whammy. Planes flying over states cannot be stopped by states. The exhaust particulates coming out of their jet engines that make contrails that turn into cirrus clouds that then block out the sun, that's considered pollution.
[00:05:51] It's not considered geoengineering, despite what you've heard on very prominent websites by very loudmouthed individuals making clickbait titles and trying to scare you all the time. Despite everything you've ever heard, I've been trolling Tennessee for the past couple months and predicting when the chemtrails are going to show up. And this makes everybody scratch their head. Is either Jim Lee psychic?
[00:06:20] Does he have special abilities? Does he have a hotline to the CIA? Is John Brennan calling him and telling him when they're going to roll out the geoengineering planes? Or is there more to the story that nobody really wants to understand? And this question is really perplexing the entire nation at this point.
[00:06:40] Today in Florida, Senate Bill 56, a gentleman by the name of Mark, who I interviewed last week, he's the Facebook owner of Florida Sky Watchers. Approximately 15 million views on his Facebook page in the last 90 days. He testified today.
[00:06:59] And he mentioned me by name in his testimony and the 2015 hearing that I attended at the EPA on the topic of chemtrails. And at that EPA hearing, I was talking about aviation induced cloudiness. This is what the scientists refer to it as. They don't call it geoengineering. Why?
[00:07:22] Because stratospheric aerosol injection, what David Keith and Ken Caldera and Bill Gates are talking about, their goal is to loft chemicals into the stratosphere at 70,000 to 90,000 feet. Okay. Not 30,000 to 45,000 feet where planes are flying. So that's why they keep going, well, this isn't geoengineering. But at the same time saying it's accidental geoengineering.
[00:07:51] But it's really pollution. But it's just condensation trails, Jim. Calm down. But we know that these are secret government programs with pumps and pipes. Well, then how can I predict when they're going to happen? Back in World War II, B-17G Flying Fortress bombers that were going over Germany had long linear contrails coming off of them that turned into cirrus clouds. Okay.
[00:08:21] Is that a chemtrail program in World War II? Or do you think that the bombers that were leaving the big white lines probably didn't want them there because it made them a sitting duck for flat cannons? You don't want big white lines pointing at your bomber. It makes you very obvious to see. So they developed something called the Schmidt-Appleman Criterion.
[00:08:43] This is something that tells you when temperature and dew point depression, relative humidity minus temperature, when the atmospheric conditions are right, planes will make contrails. And some of those contrails were persist. They sometimes call them persistent contrails. But all of these words are erroneous because at the end of the day, once they fan out and block out the sun, they are cirrus clouds.
[00:09:11] C-I-R-R-U-S. They are ice clouds. These ice clouds are the seeds inside of them that made the cloud were 75% man-made metals. Where did those metals come from? They came from jet fuel being burned in the right conditions, at the right temperature. So you can predict to a 90% certainty when planes are going to have a air quote spray day or not.
[00:09:40] And this is the thing that perplexes people who haven't done the deep dive into this topic, that aviation-induced cloudiness is predictable, and that the airline industries and the climate cult all know this and are talking about contrail avoidance schemes where they fly around those ice-supersaturated regions.
[00:10:04] So they avoid making contrails at night because they typically cool during the day, but at night they trap heat at the ground. In reality, they trap heat at the ground all the time, but during the day they reflect a little bit of sunlight. So in reality, there's no greenhouse gases, maybe other than water vapor. There's only a greenhouse.
[00:10:29] When you create a cirrus cloud shield over the planet, you're actually trapping heat at the surface. And that is the real problem that nobody wants to talk about. And I've been talking about it for 15 years.
[00:10:43] And even the people in Tennessee who are the most ardent supporters of the geoengineering and weather modification ban, and I am also a supporter of banning geoengineering and weather modification, but that's not going to change commercial planes for making clouds and blocking out the sun until people understand the full picture. I see. I see. So you're talking about all the misdirection.
[00:11:09] So these bills in 22 different states are really being created on the misdirection, but we're not understanding that. Yeah, because the most vocal proponent of anti-geoengineering is telling people and has for the last 15 years that planes cannot create contrails. And this narrative has really kneecapped.
[00:11:38] I'm thinking of a certain Olympian who took out another ice skater. They've really been kneecapped to the point where because they don't believe contrails are even a thing, they're readily mocked any time they post about it on social media.
[00:11:58] If they go and speak in front of a science committee, you know, trying to write legislation and ask basic questions about atmospheric science and what they're talking about, they don't know. And you compound this with, as I like to say, when the COVID kids came for my chemtrails. Interesting.
[00:12:21] So we have an entire group of social media influencers out there who've made a reputation during the COVID pandemic on harping on mRNA. And now people won't care. Okay. So the medical health freedom movement has now come for chemtrails. Okay. Be right back. More with Jim Lee. The website is climateviewer.com. You can also go to weathermodificationhistory.com. Be right back.
[00:12:51] Kate Daly Show. katedalyradio.com. Live today. Be right back. This is the Kate Daly Show. Hi.
[00:13:32] Welcome back. Kate Daly Show. I've got Jim Lee. He's always so fascinating to listen to. I love having him on. So, of course, the phone lines are open and you can actually call in if you're listening live in the afternoon. 888-673-1450. 888-673-1450. And we'll take your call. You can ask your questions to Jim. So I love this. Climateviewer.com. And then, of course, make sure you go to allfamilypharma.com and order ivermectin, fembenzenol, get rid of parasites.
[00:14:00] The reason being is they're having a buy one, get one sale again. They did this back in November. It was extremely popular. This is the time to jump on that sale and make sure that you've got enough. You should probably be doing this at least every year, every six months preferably. And it's what all of the doctors are telling me. And the good ones anyway. And make sure and go to allfamilypharma.com. And the code word is K10. Okay? The number 10. So, K-A-T-E-1-0.
[00:14:28] And you'll get an extra 10% off, which is amazing. And you'll get it in a few days. These are doctor prescriptions from Florida. You do not have to go to India anymore. Okay? To get those without trying to seek out a doctor that's going to write those for you. All right. So, Jim Lee is back with me. And I just want you to boil this down. What you just talked about in the last 13 minutes. I want you to boil down to kind of like a two or three sentence nutshell of what is actually going on in America with these 22 bills.
[00:14:58] Is it misdirection? And then also talk about the cirrus clouds again and exactly what we should be looking for, but where the misdirection is. Geoengineering is the idea that was formed based on the 1991 Mount Pinatubo eruption of putting particles high into the stratosphere, not to create clouds, but to whiten the sky.
[00:15:23] So, this is the miscommunication that's going on, the misunderstanding of the terminology. Stratospheric aerosol injection is whitening of the sky or changing albedo. So, planes making clouds are not geoengineering. Why? Because geoengineering seeks to cool the planet. In fact, planes making clouds actually trap heat at the ground and they're heating the planet.
[00:15:51] So, even if it was geoengineering, it's a real crappy job. Okay. And the misdirection of the 22 bills? They're well intended. And I agree with the idea of banning geoengineering. Geoengineering should be illegal. But, again, this goes to the, should it be state or federal? It has to be federal. Why?
[00:16:19] You can ban weather modification in your state. Great. Good. Do it. I encourage you to. If you're east of the Mississippi River, you're probably wasting your time. Do it anyway. Because there aren't any cloud seeding projects east of the Mississippi River. Just a heads up. Now, on the West Coast, we have massive weather modification programs which have gone on since 1946 when it was invented. Ban weather modification. All for it.
[00:16:48] I'll high five you all along the way. Ban geoengineering. It's a good signal to all the scientists that are studying how to get chemicals up to 70,000 to 90,000 feet because it's a bad idea. It's dangerous. It will harm everybody on the planet. And it should be banned. But Mexico banned geoengineering. The whole country.
[00:17:11] Because of Andrew Song and Luke Eisman from makesunsets.com throwing balloons in the air to put sulfur into the stratosphere. Did that stop geoengineering? No. Luke Eisman and Andrew Song just moved up to California and just did it in the United States because it's legal here. Ah.
[00:17:32] So even worse, David Keith, most prominent geoengineer in the world, at least the most vocal, he said, even though Mexico banned geoengineering, how can they enforce it? Furthermore, every single flight is putting sulfur into the stratosphere and that is pollution and they can't do anything about it.
[00:17:57] So the original proposals and to this day, the number one talked about chemical putting into the stratosphere to block sunlight and cool the planet is sulfur. The only example of how planes are doing that is the sulfur, SO2, sulfur dioxide, which turns into sulfuric acid the minute it hits water. That's coming out of the jet exhaust from burning jet fuel and is entering the lower stratosphere.
[00:18:26] The difference is in the lower stratosphere, it's only going to last a couple weeks to a month. But if you walk those same chemicals to 70,000 feet, they can last years. Okay. I'll be right back. More with Jim Lee from climateviewer.com trying to set the record straight here on Chem Drills.
[00:18:57] This is the Kate Daly Show. Welcome back, Kate Daly Show. Right? Oh, that's an oldie but a goodie.
[00:19:21] And we're going to have him clarify again just because I want to get down to the bottom of this Jim Lee on misunderstanding, misdirection, disinformation, the whole nine yards, right? So before I go there, make sure that you go to CozyEarth.com and put in the code Kate.
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[00:20:10] So go to CozyEarth.com. Code word is Kate. And I really appreciate that you do that. Like I said, 1% of media left telling the truth or telling it, in fact, without censorship or without being told what to say. That's huge. All right. So welcome back. I've got Jim Lee with me.
[00:20:27] So if you were to boil this down yet again, just because of all the misdirection, disinformation, all of it, weather modification versus what we see, what we talk about as chemtrails and some of these buzzwords like the grid in the sky. Can you please classify again what we should know about this? Weather modification versus chemtrails.
[00:20:51] So, yes, planes changing the sky is weather modification. They don't consider it intentional weather modification. Why? Because when planes fly through moist, cold environments, they make cirrus clouds. Not chemtrails, not contrails. If it fans out and blocks the sun, that is also weather modification.
[00:21:16] It is cirrus clouds, but it's because sunny day, partly cloudy, fully cloudy is weather. However, they say it's unintentional. So we have to distinguish between unintentional and intentional weather modification. Can you prove that commercial aviation is intentionally blocking out the sun, modifying the weather? That's a tough sell. Because they've been doing that since 1958.
[00:21:46] In 1958, in the city of Palm Springs, California, the mayor was complaining to the Air Force base nearby that planes were blocking out the sun, that the vapor trails, as they called them then, were fanning out and blocking out the sun.
[00:22:03] A month later, the Air Force told them that they would either have to move the city of Palm Springs or live with the vapor trails because they are at the intersection of all West Coast skyways. Now, I want to differentiate very quickly, and we'll go back to the skyway idea.
[00:22:22] That intentional weather modification through cloud seeding, cloud ionizers, these are electrical devices that release negatively charged ions to make water coalesce and fall as rain, or even lasers. Lasers can be used to ionize clouds to induce rainfall or to steer lightning bolts. Both cloud seeding generators, cloud ionizers, and lasers are all ground-based.
[00:22:52] They're on the ground. Then we have cloud seeding planes, which operate from around 1 to the very highest 20,000 feet. These burn flares that are attached to their wings. They're either glaciogenic or hygroscopic. Translation, they put silver iodide or sodium chloride, calcium chloride, into clouds so that water sticks to them and falls as rain.
[00:23:22] All four of the things I just mentioned are intentional weather modification projects and programs that are funded by usually local water districts or farmers, things like that, or in the case of Nevada, the state of Nevada. So you can actually track who's doing weather modification by going to NOAA's weather modification reporting website.
[00:23:45] Because of the Weather Modification Reporting Act of 1972, people who pay for it and people who do it have to fill out a form and file it with the Department of Commerce and NOAA. Those forms are available. I know everybody who's doing it in the country. Wow. And I have, you know, you can, anybody that's listening to this radio show can go to weathermodificationhistory.com, click on the frequently asked question page for weather modification. There is a link provided right there and you can go read the reports yourself.
[00:24:16] Now, that's different than planes making clouds. And the reason why really comes down to semantics and intent. So people say chemtrail, chemical trail. Other people say contrail, condensation trail. You'd have to put them together and call it a chemical contrail to actually tell the full story. Okay.
[00:24:44] Because the jet exhaust, when you burn jet fuel, you produce black carbon soot, which is coated in graphene and has all of the metals ever attributed to chemtrails inside. So imagine an M&M candy. The chocolate is carbon and metals and the candy shell is graphene. That is what water condenses on. Right.
[00:25:11] So it is a chemical trail, jet exhaust, with condensation occurring on it. And the only thing that's missing ingredient is, you know, static electricity, basically ionization. You have to have something to make the water want to stick to the thing. That is how every cloud, whether natural or man-made, is made. You have to have three things.
[00:25:38] A cloud seed, water vapor, and some kind of ionizing radiation or static electricity. That's what we're seeing. We're seeing jet exhaust and water vapor sticking to it. And if it sticks around long enough, it's neither a chemical trail or a condensation trail. It is a cirrus cloud, indistinguishable from natural-forming cirrus clouds. Okay. So elevation-wise, you were going to make that point.
[00:26:07] So lower elevation, we're looking at what? And higher elevation. The location is anywhere from 1 to 20,000 feet. The planes you're seeing flying overhead are flying from 30,000 to, in the case of private jets, 45,000 feet. Okay. Now, somewhere in that area is what's called the tropopause. That is the top of the troposphere. That's where all the weather is that we all see.
[00:26:37] That's where we live. We live in the troposphere. But the stratosphere is above that. That's where the ozone layer is. And that dividing line is called the tropopause. A plane that's flying in the troposphere will make clouds because it's cold and wet. But the moment you hit the stratosphere, it gets drier and warmer. Okay. They will not create clouds.
[00:27:01] But all of their jet exhaust, including the sulfur, is injected into the stratosphere. That is stratospheric aerosol injection because all of those chemicals are aerosols. So it is a form of geoengineering in the fact that the jet exhaust is injected into the stratosphere and is whitening the sky.
[00:27:26] But people don't understand that geoengineering is about whitening the sky, not making clouds. I see. I see. Okay. And, yeah, go ahead. If you look at your horizon, anybody that's listening to me now, you do this test yourself, especially if you're out in Flatland. I lived in Arizona for a while, so I know. If you look at the horizon, you will see a milky white haze.
[00:27:54] And as you look up towards the sky, depending on how clear it is today, it may be blue, but it may be white even overhead. Instead, that haze, that whitening of the sky, that is what geoengineering stratospheric aerosol injection intends to do. Not create clouds.
[00:28:48] Not create clouds. Okay. All right. All right. Welcome back. Kate Daly Show. Kate Daly Radio dot com.
[00:29:18] I've got Jim Lee from climateviewer dot com. You can go to his website and find out a whole lot more about what we're speaking about today. And Jim is trying to set the record straight on misdirection and misinformation versus real information, what we should know, what we need to know. And also those bills that are passing through in or going through in 22 states, we'll see where that lands.
[00:29:46] But a caller just asked on the break if you could describe the chemtrail patterns or what we talk about as chemtrail patterns in the sky when you see that grid in the sky. What do you have to say to that? So just like our interstate system, we have what are called skyways. And basically, pilots are flying over the same geographical point, flight after flight after flight.
[00:30:13] And the sky is a river constantly moving west to east. So when a flight comes over, it's going to drift a little bit to the east. And then the next flight, you can hold your thumb up in the air and put it over the plane and then wait in certain areas, especially with high traffic. And the next plane that comes overhead will touch your thumb and it will leave a big white stripe in the sky. Guess what? Now you have two parallel white stripes. Wait another two minutes. There might be another plane.
[00:30:43] Now you have three white stripes. So these flights typically go east to west, north to south, depending, you know, on where their destinations are. And that's why you're getting X's. That's why you're getting grids, because these flights are all pretty much flying in the same place. And the air is constantly moving east to west. You can anybody can go to fly radar 24 and actually see the highways in the sky. They are literally on the map.
[00:31:12] And then you can track the flights as well. If you don't trust that, you can go to globe.adsbexchange.com, which also tracks military flights. They don't censor them. For those who are not believing anything that I have to say, I understand. I was you 15 years ago. I thought everything was chemtrails. I believed everything that I was told on the internet.
[00:31:36] And it has been a long process of me admitting I was wrong year after year to come to the point where I am today. I do not expect anybody to just take what I'm saying and believe me. It's your duty to falsify your own beliefs. So if you're questioning what I'm saying as fact or fiction, I suggest you go to connect.climateviewer.com.
[00:32:05] And on there, you will find a link to my sub stack, but you will find a link to my Telegram chat. And you can come into my Telegram chat and post your photo and time and date. And we will tell you in real time what the atmospheric conditions were, what flight that was, and help you understand. Love it. All right. And so, of course, the phone lines are open.
[00:32:28] You can get in a last call, 888-673-1450, 888-673-1450. Here's a caller for you. Make it short, caller. Go right ahead. Yes, I take a lot of exceptions of what you're seeing, Jim. There is no need to cool the planet. The science has shown that. They're going after population areas more than others. They're primarily using federal government military tankers.
[00:32:53] But the reason I'm mainly calling is you said we're scratching our head why they're not stopping when states pass a law like Tennessee. That's because our founding fathers told us you're not taking the right action. You have to nullify federal government violations of the Constitution. You need to kick the federal – I'm talking about what Adams – excuse me – what Madison and Jefferson said, among others. You kick the federal government out of your state to get rid of all their facilities.
[00:33:22] Let's let Jim answer since we're short on time. Go ahead, Jim. I 100% agree with you. Tenth Amendment states' rights should trump federal law. I'm in full agreement with you on that. I'm also in full agreement with you on CO2 global warming is fake. CO2coalition.org. Dr. William Happer, Dr. Willie Soon, I do not believe in the CO2 narrative. I never have. I never will. So we actually agree on all of those.
[00:33:51] The only thing we disagree on is that it's all KC-135s. When in 20 years of observing flights leaving stripes in my sky and having a Nikon P900 with an 83 times optical zoom, 90% of the flights I'm seeing leaving stripes are regular commercial flights delivering packages because you ordered something off of Amazon or People. Okay. Okay. 888-673-1450. We'll hopefully try to get in one more question.
[00:34:21] Go ahead. Give us a call. And also describe any other bit of misinformation that people are getting that you figured out in the last 15 years that you really want to dispel. At the end of the day, what I've realized from this entire ordeal is that as an anti-geoengineering and anti-weather modification activist, that people, you know, they get a head full of steam.
[00:34:50] They want action, but they're not willing to take the time to educate themselves on all of the terminology, all of the technology, so that whenever they do get the chance to take action, they can properly answer fundamental questions about what these technologies are, how they're deployed, who's involved, who's paying for it. All of that information is available on my sub stack and on weather modification history.com.
[00:35:17] So, again, I would suggest you go to connect.climateviewer.com, watch some of my videos, join my Telegram chat, and come tell me to my face with your chest, Jim, you're wrong, and we will talk about it. I would love to have that discussion. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. All right, caller, you've got 30 seconds. Can you do it in 30 seconds? Go. You bet. I want to thank you for clearing this up because I'm not chasing chemtrails with butterfly nets anymore.
[00:35:46] You know, this whole thing has been duped together, just like you were saying, the atmosphere, and you can't convince anybody that they're wrong. All right. Jim, thank you for that call. Jim? And what he said is exactly right. At the end of the day, it's not my job to convince anybody of anything. I finally realized this after 15 years. I cannot convince anybody of anything.
[00:36:15] You have to be willing to be open to the possibility that maybe you're thinking about a thing wrong before you'll even question it. So I encourage everybody, don't take my word for it. Dig a little deeper. And what you might find is that the truth is way more interesting than the fiction that you've been fed by people online, making money off of your fear.
[00:36:39] Which makes sense because of all of the misdirection and disinformation on just about every topic that is under the whole instrumentation of government. So everything we get is misdirection. So that's why people should at least want to examine what you've got to say. Really appreciate you coming on, Jim. Thanks. Jim Lee from climateviewer.com and also weathermodificationhistory.com. Did I get that right?
[00:37:09] Yes, you did. Okay. Jim, thanks. Really appreciate you spelling this out. I really do. Thank you. And, of course, on to Mel Madison. Stay with me. Talking about the economy latest. And we've got some bankruptcies, some closures of businesses, all kinds of stuff going on. What does it really mean? Be right back on The Kate Daly Show. KateDalyRadio.com live today. And see you on the flip side of the break.