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[00:01:52] The show starts at 2 p.m. Mountain, 4 p.m. Eastern each day, and runs for two hours, and I just want all you guys to know that. So welcome to the show. I have a great guest. Tyler O'Neill joins me, and the book is Woketopus. You are going to love this. So, Tyler, welcome to the show. How are you? Hey, doing well. Thanks so much for having me, Kate. You bet. Yeah, you bet.
[00:02:18] So, managing editor at The Daily Signal, and author, conservative commentator, lots of publications. You've written for Washington Times, Christian Post, National Review, Washington Free Beacon, just to name a few, Hillsdale College, and, of course, a graduate of Hillsdale College. So I am excited about this because you've written several books, Making Hate Pay, the Corruption of Southern Poverty Law Center,
[00:02:43] and, of course, the Woketopus, the dark money cabal manipulating the federal government. I'm excited to launch in. All right. This was your topic. Tell me why you needed to write about this. There's been a lot of books about, you know, some dark money. What was your particular angle on this?
[00:03:06] Yeah, well, the thing that I've been following for a while and why this really caught on with me is because I've been following the Southern Poverty Law Center. And, of course, you know, I wrote my first book about them. I consider them the tip of the spear when it comes to demonizing conservatives and Christians in our culture. They have this hate map where they put mainstream conservative and Christian groups like the Family Research Council,
[00:03:36] like Alliance Defending Freedom, on the map alongside with Ku Klux Klan chapters. And so, you know, the KKK, thankfully, has not been a real threat in America for decades. Right. But comparing mainstream conservatives with whom the SPLC disagrees ideologically and politically to the Klan
[00:04:00] is just defamation on a whole scale that, you know, it always shocks me. And whenever anybody has influence, whenever the SPLC has influence anywhere, I want to, like, set up alarm bells and say, like, no, no, no. Right. This is, you know, this is horrible. But the Biden administration brought the SPLC in. And according to the current president of the SPLC, Margaret Huang,
[00:04:29] the many law enforcement agencies and federal law enforcement, you know, went to the SPLC seeking advice to combat, quote unquote, the domestic terrorism threat. They went to the SPLC, which inspired an act of domestic terrorism in 2012. So the fact that this far left activist group that, you know, has no credibility on this issue whatsoever
[00:04:56] was brought into the Biden administration made me ask what other far left activist groups are brought in. And where is the money that enables these people to do what they do? And I just started scratching beneath the surface. And I was surprised at how much I found. Oh, yeah. Oh, I cannot wait to hear what you have to say. In fact, I remember looking up and seeing how many people attended the actual KKK national rally in America.
[00:05:25] And I think it was 150 to 300 people of all Americans. So the interest in the organization of the KKK, it strikes me as so bizarre that they keep going back to this Nazi thing. This Nazi narrative, all Christians and all conservatives must be members of the KKK because we're all white racists. It drives me insane. I mean, they had such a low turnout. It was hardly even visible. I mean, as far as an event goes.
[00:05:52] So just so everyone knows, they use and they capitalize on this. And it drives me insane. And I hope everybody else gets the idea that they have just used that to the hill. Does everybody tired of it yet? I mean, are they tired of using this? I guess not. Well, you would think so. I mean, it's funny. In the past few years, I've seen scandal after scandal hit the SPLC.
[00:06:17] In 2019, they had a racial discrimination and sexual harassment scandal that led them to fire their co-founder. And of course, as soon as that scandal broke, it was brushed under the rug by the legacy media. But they unionized at that time. And so right now, they have a unionization scandal where they did some restructuring at the SPLC. And they fired a bunch of people who were high up in the union.
[00:06:47] And so the disgruntled former employees accused them of union busting. So this is one of the – like even on the left, they should not be taking this group seriously. And a former employee came forward and said they're a highly profitable scam, which I mean I could tell you just by looking from the outside. But to have it coming from a former employee lends it more weight.
[00:07:10] And now they're facing a defamation lawsuit that is particularly strong that made it to the discovery process. So hopefully this will be one of the things that really blows them wide open. But I mean under Biden, they had a whole slew of White House meetings. They had one of their attorneys nominated to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals.
[00:07:32] And then right when they were comparing Moms for Liberty and other parental rights groups to the KKK by adding them onto this hate map, they were brought into the Department of Justice and the Department of Education to advise people on this. And this is the sort of influence. And I looked at it. The SPLC opened my eyes.
[00:07:54] But the more I looked, the more I saw these vast left-wing activist groups pushing woke ideology in the federal government and on issue after issue. You know, if it's the border, if it's LGBT issues, if it's unions, if it's education, like there's one after another. And of course, the green revolving door was a humongous chapter in the book. Oh. But what do you want to talk about? Well, I know.
[00:08:21] So the NGO, the non-governmental organization, which is absolutely a governmental organization receiving government funds, this apparatus, the tentacles of this, how do they operate? How do they do their thing? How do they get so deeply embedded in government and never leave? And how do they siphon off this money? Yeah, that's an excellent question.
[00:08:45] So most of the groups in the Woketopus, I don't have concrete evidence for government funding of them. But where I talk about dark money is the vast dark money apparatus that props them up. So on the left, you have big, humongous donors like George Soros, who created the Open Society Foundations. Open Society is now run by his son, Alex Soros. So it's not even run by George Soros anymore.
[00:09:14] And Alex Soros said he's more political than his dad. But then you also have Arabella Advisors, which, I mean, stick with me on this because it's confusing. But Arabella Advisors is a for-profit company that created a whole bunch of non-profit organizations underneath it. And, I mean, it's not entirely clear what the relationship between Arabella Advisors and the non-profits is, other than that Arabella created them.
[00:09:42] And then those non-profits themselves create fiscal sponsorships, which are like mini-non-profits that present themselves as if they were grassroots operations. And so a donor will go to Arabella Advisors and get advice on where to spend money. And then the donor will give to a non-profit like the 1630 Fund.
[00:10:06] The 1630 Fund will then dedicate that money to a smaller fiscal sponsorship so that the donor doesn't have to disclose that he's funding the activities of that fiscal sponsorship. So I like to say there's dark money and then there's dark, dark, dark money. And that's what Arabella Advisors is. Wow. So maybe all this missing money or maybe the big round estimated numbers of money. I always love that one whenever they're sending money over.
[00:10:35] It's always some big round number that nobody ever has to talk about where the money actually goes are siphoned into these groups like the Arabella Advisors. It sounds like it is. And I realize that you probably could not get to a paper trail that would disclose that because they keep it so dark and so hidden. But the money's coming through, no doubt. Yeah. Well, so many of these donors have these systems to hide where exactly the money goes.
[00:11:05] And, you know, I want to be careful about this because I don't think that dark money is itself, you know, inherently nefarious. Many on the left, they like to attack conservatives and say, oh, conservative groups are funded by dark money. But in reality, you know, dark money just means Americans have the right to put money behind causes they believe in without disclosing where they put that money. I mean, that is a right that we have.
[00:11:34] The shocking thing for Arabella and these other groups is the lengths to which they go to hide the money while still like technically following the law of disclosure. So it's, you know, that's. But the way that the Woktapus operates, many of these big donors have a large influence in the Democratic Party. And in when it comes to these particular politicians who are often in office.
[00:12:02] And then when it comes to the federal bureaucracy, because of the woke bias in the in the federal government, in academia, in Hollywood, this bias makes people aligned on issues that have negative consequences for the American people.
[00:12:24] So what we see is the woke elites pushing their anti-fossil fuel agenda, even though most Americans like to drive cars, want to be able to get where they're going as cheaply as possible and don't have the luxury of. And freedom and freedom, too. We want our freedom. I'll be right back with Tyler O'Neill. And the book is Woktapus. You're going to you're going to love this. Be right back. Kate Daly show. Kate Daly radio dot com.
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[00:14:27] This is the Kate Daly Show. Some gal would giggle and I'd get red and some guy'd laugh and I'd bust his head. I'll tell you, life ain't easy for a boy named Sue. Well, I grew up quick and I grew up mean. My fist got hard. All right. Welcome back. Kate Daly Show. KateDalyRadio.com. I'm so glad that you're joining me. A big reminder. I'm going to be reminding you all week that next week the show starts at 2 p.m. Mountain
[00:14:56] instead of 1 p.m. Mountain. And I just want to give you a big old heads up for that. Big shift. So an hour shift there. So just mark your clocks. Mark your calendars. And remember that next week we start at 2 o'clock. Also, I have Tyler O'Neill and the book is Woketopus. And it's all the tentacles of dark money. Of how dark money operates. How it infiltrates really. Is that one of the better words? Infiltrates?
[00:15:25] Because it's hard to see the infiltration sometimes. Yes. Yes. The main infiltration is the staff and the woke ideas that are being pushed into the administrative state. And one of the aspects that I think a lot of people don't realize is that, you know, that constitution you learned about in school, hopefully you learned about in school. Many of us were lucky enough to.
[00:15:51] But with its nifty checks and balances, that isn't how government really operates today, unfortunately. Right now we have an administrative state, which is essentially a fourth branch of government that writes most of the rules you have to live by. And Congress rarely restrains them. And so when these woke activist groups in the Woketopus work with the administrative state,
[00:16:15] they can often get their agenda enshrined into the rules that govern our lives without needing to have them passed by Congress and signed by the president. Hmm. So would you say that a lot of these groups, all these or all of these groups are still still there? Because a lot of times when we switch out the president, the the bureaucrats, the the group stay. Is that the case here right now? Yeah.
[00:16:42] So so so I think Trump is doing yeoman's work right now in cutting off many of the tentacles of the Woketopus and convincing them to to abandon ship. But the problem is that there are there are two aspects. So sorry, there are two answers to your question. OK. One of the answers is, yes, they remain. And they remain because many of the bureaucrats in the administrative state naturally support
[00:17:11] these woke policies. And therefore, when when the administration changes, when you have a new president, some of the staff stay and they hunker down and they don't reveal who they are. So, you know, there was a recent poll that found that 64 percent of Washington, D.C.-based federal bureaucrats who voted for Kamala Harris in this last election plan. They said they would not follow a lawful Trump order if they thought that it was bad policy.
[00:17:41] So one of the answers is there's a deep state forming. The other answer is that a lot of these activists, these woke bureaucrats leave the administrative state, go to the nonprofits that I talk about in my book. They go to the Woketopus and they form what is essentially a government in exile being ready to staff up the next woke administration should a Democrat win in the future.
[00:18:07] And so what you see is this double this double strategy. And from those woke activist groups from outside, you also see efforts to oppose the president from outside. Interesting. All right. And talk about the ACLU on the border. Yeah. So this was one of the things I found. You know, I wanted to know who was behind the border crisis.
[00:18:34] And I found that before Biden entered office, he had his transition team for the Department of Homeland Security. And this transition team featured someone from the ACLU. And it featured someone from an activist group called America's Voice. And it also worked with the Center for American Progress, which is a massive left wing influence group in the D.C. area.
[00:18:59] And both the ACLU and the Center for American Progress published papers where they said they wanted the Department of Homeland Security to treat immigration as an asset to be managed, not a crime to be enforced against. And that basic mentality is what drove the open borders crisis from Biden's executive orders on day one, undermining
[00:19:23] the ways that Trump had made the border more secure to the way that DHS treated these illegal aliens when they came in and created new programs to bring them in, like the CHNV program, which actually flew to illegal aliens here. And it's funny. I think many of these illegals don't know that they're illegal because they got brought in by the federal government. But just being brought by the federal government doesn't make you legal. Right.
[00:19:53] Congress has to authorize. Yes. Yes. There's a vetting process the founders put in place. Be right back. Kate Daly show more with Tyler O'Neill. The Woktopus. Be right back. You've heard me talking about olive oil and I've told you about Atlas olive oil from Morocco, right? Morocco has some of the best olive oil because the trees, because of the water conditions
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[00:22:17] Knowing what I know, there's a price on the head of every border patrol where the smugglers do business. That's where I make a stand. All right. Welcome back. You know, a little Willie for you. Welcome back. Kate Daly Show. Big reminder, the show starts an hour later starting next week.
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[00:24:10] So you were talking about the ACLU and the border. Let's go back to that. Yes. So the ACLU has a major staff member who goes and works in the transition team. The ACLU and the Center for American Progress have the basic blueprint to create the border crisis. And then lo and behold, the Biden administration essentially follows that blueprint.
[00:24:35] And one of the main, you know, the shocking things right now is that, you know, as Trump is in office and he's launching these mass deportations, especially to get criminal illegal aliens, you know, illegal aliens are themselves already criminals violating the law by coming into this country. But they also, the ones that Trump is deporting are the ones who've also committed crimes, particularly violent crimes.
[00:25:03] And so Trump is launching this effort. Now, you know, the American Civil Liberties Union doesn't have a friendly administration in the White House right now. But what they're doing is the next best thing. They've decided to file lawsuits to prevent Trump from carrying out these mass deportations. So if you want the illegals who entered our country who are causing damage in this country, you know,
[00:25:30] those who have been convicted of crimes, if you don't want them to be kicked out of this country, then you should be cheering the ACLU right now. But it is my opinion that that would be insane because, you know, people like Lake and Riley are dead now because we didn't have secure vetting and enforcement of our borders. And you can feel for people who don't understand that they're illegal.
[00:25:57] You can feel for people who are abused by these cartels, even though they're illegal aliens. But we have to say enough is enough. America is a sovereign nation. We need to have control over our borders. And one of the major things we have to do is undo this massive influx of illegal aliens over the past four years because it is unsustainable. And even Democratic mayors and governors have said as much.
[00:26:26] Where do you think most of their attention is? I mean, of course, we see critical race. We see a lot of dark money going into education by these leftist, truly communist, globalist organizations, right? So we have the Green Door. We've got the border. We've got all of these different things. Where do you think their biggest concentration is? Where do you think most of their attention falls? That is an excellent question.
[00:26:53] I think I don't think they have one specific focus. As you mentioned, there's critical race theory. There's opening the border. There's pushing. And the Green Revolving Door, which is another chapter in my book, it talks about the way that these radical environmentalist groups staff and advise the federal agencies.
[00:27:19] And they send their people into these agencies who will collude with the woke activist groups to crack down on oil and gas without the American people being at the table. It's this process called sue and settle, where essentially you have a woke group saying, hey, you're not cracking down on oil and gas enough under the Endangered Species Act. You need to crack down on oil and gas more.
[00:27:44] And the bureaucrats who want an excuse to crack down on oil and gas more say, oh, sure, yeah, we weren't following the law. Here, we will crack down on oil and gas just like you want. And then we will also pay you because we are acknowledging that we didn't follow the law. It's so purse on so many levels. But this is the way the activist campaign works its way in D.C.
[00:28:10] And President Trump, he's off to a really strong start right now. But his work cut out for him. There are so many layers of the onion to unpeel. And I feel like the left is too organized to just have one focus. They have 10 focuses and they do them all well. And so you have to respond and you have to constantly be vigilant and expose what they're doing.
[00:28:38] On the right, to be fair, on the right, we have a lot of rhinos, right? We have a lot of people with the same leftist ideology. They just kind of masqueraded on our right side with being a kind of like a Romney Republican. So in that way, when we've had the power, we did not get the wall built, right? When we had the Senate, the House, and the presidency. And so when you were... Didn't even overturn Obama. Right, exactly.
[00:29:05] McCain was that holdout in the Senate before he died. So what are your thoughts on that? I mean, you're looking at these different groups. I know that they are on the right as well. Otherwise, we would have had these things done a long time ago, right? So both sides. Yeah, yeah. The woke influence. It is really difficult because on the right, there are...
[00:29:31] I think the right is becoming more aggressive under Trump. Trump has really energized a lot. But you still do have some of those limp Republicans who are not willing to take a stand. And I just don't... Like, I think this administration is going to be a lot more aggressive and a lot more successful than the first Trump administration was.
[00:30:00] Partially because Trump has more of a mandate now. Partially because he's been more organized preparing for this administration. You're seeing them staffing up quickly. You're seeing him pick a lot of people. You're seeing really aggressive executive orders. It's more of the kind of muscular leadership that we're looking for.
[00:30:22] And I think it's sending a message even to Capitol Hill and even to those Republicans who might not want to aggressively enforce Trump's agenda. Like, they won't be able to get away with sitting on the sidelines anymore. Now, to what degree? You know, it's always a battle. Yeah. Because too many Republicans see their role as, you know, holding back socialism for a couple more years
[00:30:51] as opposed to actually implementing a positive free market agenda. Yeah. I haven't heard them even utter the word Obamacare. I mean, it wasn't even part of what anyone talked about, even trying to get reelected for a lot of these guys on our right. So I was a little shocked. We heard nothing about it. It's almost like, well, you know, that ship has sailed. And I'm like, no, it has not sailed. Why can we not take steps to get rid of it? So I think you're right on that.
[00:31:20] They sort of do this little dance where it's these rhinos, where it's all about, you know, we're going to stop them for three years instead of actually going to the belly of the beast and taking stuff out. So we've got our work cut out for us, for sure. We're going to go to a break really quick, a little bit more with Tyler O'Neill. The book is Woketopus. It's all the tentacles of this dark money, the dark money foundations, everything that having to do with the dark money.
[00:31:48] Be right back and how it flows to all these organizations, these leftist organizations. Be right back. Kate Daly Show. So Americans are losing tens of billions of dollars every year to cybercrime, and it's getting worse. iDefendHome.com. iDefendHome gives you everything you need to keep you safe.
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[00:35:07] And we have to realize that these tentacles are pretty big. What surprised you the most? I want you to talk about green door too, the green revolving door. But did anything really kind of shock you, Tyler? I think the thing that shocked me the most was just the scope and the size of this influence campaign.
[00:35:26] When you're looking at millions of dollars going to these organizations, one of the things that really stood out to me, and when you're going through so much research, sometimes you don't always catch a human factor. But I started to realize that a lot of money, even unions, and these are some of the big unions that have an impact in the administrative state.
[00:35:55] But these big unions are also sending a portion of the union dues that they collect to these other woke activist groups. So you can have – I used this example on the Tudor Dixon show a couple of days ago where we were talking about a hypothetical teacher in Ann Arbor, Michigan, who's a member of the National Education Association.
[00:36:19] And little does this teacher know that when she pays her dues to the union that she thinks is going to represent her and get her better salary and benefits, the union is taking a portion of those dues and giving it to these activist groups that are pushing for a crackdown on oil and gas.
[00:36:38] That not only makes it harder for her to drive to the union that not only makes it harder for her to drive to and from work but also leads to the shutting down of an auto factory in her neighborhood where the parents of her kids, of the kids she's educating, go. And so they're out of jobs as this factory moves. And you get this really, really horrible cycle. And this is just one way.
[00:37:06] I mean, it's a hypothetical, but I think it illustrates what the Woktopus is doing and how it's impacting Americans for the worse. Interesting. And the green revolving door because, boy, we're still hearing so much about climate gobbledygook. It's just irritating at this point. So 70 years of you're going to die at the end of every decade. So tell me – when are we going to figure it out?
[00:37:34] So tell me a little bit more about how they operate. Well, yeah. So they continually push this narrative, you know, climate. The climate change is going to destroy us. And it keeps not happening. I mean, these chicken littles keep failing to predict the end of the world. And so at some point Americans need to realize – and I think many of them do. It's only the elites who continue to believe this nonsense. But they're constantly pushing it on us.
[00:38:04] And you have these activist groups that began for good reasons. You know, I think of, you know, the Natural Resources Defense Council, the National Wildlife Federation. You know, organizations that started in order to promote, you know, caring for the environment, that started in the old like Teddy Roosevelt style of let's make sure that we're not polluting too much. Let's make sure that people can enjoy the great outdoors.
[00:38:34] And now they've been co-opted or changed or just weaponized against oil and gas in a way that doesn't make sense. Because oil and gas today are far cleaner in the United States, by the way, drills for oil and burns oil far more cleanly than other countries do. And so when we crack down on it here at home, that doesn't have the impact of preventing anyone anywhere from doing it.
[00:39:00] It just means that other countries that do it in a way that's worse for the environment will do it more to compete with us. And so it's negative even on their own terms. But these activists, you know, these activist groups, the leaders of these activist groups and many of their high-profile staff go into an administration and work at the top of, say, the Department of the Interior, for instance.
[00:39:27] I mean, there's the story of Tracy Stone Manning. I'm not sure if you're familiar with her. No. But she was actually put in charge of the Bureau of Land Management. She was a green activist and now she's still a green activist. But she wrote a letter on behalf of tree-spiking eco-terrorists back decades ago.
[00:39:50] And this was discovered and she still got confirmed as, well, she still was acting leader of the Bureau of Land Management under Biden, which is, you know, itself remarkable. Yeah. She worked at the National Wildlife Federation, which is one of these woke green climate groups. And then she went and headed up BLM for, you know, the four years of the Biden administration. And now she's out at another green activist group. They don't stop, like the Energizer bunny.
[00:40:20] Do you think they get hijacked or do you think they get started to look somewhat benevolent and then taken where the road that they actually wanted to set forth on? Because it seems like a lot of these agencies, they are started under false pretenses. Do you think? Yeah. So it's hard for me to say. I don't have the goods. I can't prove one way or the other.
[00:40:47] There are some of these groups that maybe they always had nefarious goals. I think for the most part, like some of the organizations I was looking at, they were founded, you know, decades and decades and decades ago. You're talking 50s. You're talking 40s, 30s. You know, this is not something that their modern woke move is just that. And even with the Southern Poverty Law Center, you can see they were started by a bunch of leftists.
[00:41:15] But they weren't started with the purpose of demonizing conservatives and comparing them to the Klan. They were started, as their name suggests, to represent poor people in the South, give them legal representation. That's what they did at first. I see. So I think in a lot of cases they do drift. Right. Now, I don't know if the drift is – I don't think the drift is unintentional by the leaders at the time. I do think that they start realizing –
[00:41:44] Tyler, we're going to run out – the clock's going to come up against us right now. Tyler O'Neill, Woketopus, go grab the book. These are the tentacles of the deep and the dark funding. Thank you so much. Appreciate you joining me. Thanks, Tyler. And, of course, I'll be right back. Don't go anywhere. Kate Daly Show.