[00:00:08] Show. Having survived six long decades of climate fear lies, is it too soon to move on to the fake aliens? The show starts now. Good morning, my name is Carol Rosen. In 1974, after being a sixth grade school teacher, I was introduced to the late Dr. Werner Von Braun in the U.S., the father of rocketry.
[00:00:29] He said to me, Carol, you will stop the weaponization of space. There is a lie being told to everyone that the weaponization of space is now first being based upon the evil empire, the Russians. Then there would be terrorists. Then there would be third world countries. Now we call them rogue nations or nations of concern.
[00:00:52] Then there would be asteroids. And then he would repeat to me over and over. And the last card, the last card, the last card would be the extraterrestrial threat. Well, at the time, I kind of laughed when he said asteroids. And when he said extraterrestrials, I knew I wasn't going to deal with that subject. And now we hear on the news just today, this week, that they've slid in another enemy. Only this time we're going to protect our satellites.
[00:01:19] In other words, we have to have some reason to spend these trillions to waste these dollars on a space based weapon system. And they're all live. Hey, Dally show on a Friday, no less. Oh, man, you know, I love my Fridays. Welcome. And of course, I have for you, I have actually a great guest for you, Investigator Dave.
[00:01:46] Now, Investigator Dave used to come on the show quite a bit, usually every Friday, actually. Whenever I think of Investigator Dave, this is this is what I think of. But he's a PI and was with LAPD for a long time and for years and years and years. And also taught history and just has this huge amount of just loves to do research. What can I say? Welcome, Investigator Dave. How are you?
[00:02:16] I'm doing great. Good. You're in Wisconsin. Well, you're in Wisconsin, so you're freezing. Am I right? Are you freezing? I am freezing. Oh, I can't even. I don't even want to ask. Well, OK, what is the temperature? I'm just curious. The temperature today, it's going to get up to 16. It was zero this morning. Oh, wow. But it's going to be ball me. Yeah. OK, I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you do it. I couldn't.
[00:02:46] I don't know if I could live in that. I really don't know if I could do it. So my hat's off to you, sir. I really, really appreciate you, too. I've known you for a very long time. And boy, we've had a lot of subjects that we've talked about, even aliens. We've even talked about aliens. So on that beginning. We didn't talk about aliens. Yeah. And those. Yeah. Yeah. That was a good thing that you played. Yeah. Carol Rosen. Carol Rosen.
[00:03:14] Wernher von Braun is assistant. And Wernher von Braun was the Nazi that they made the head of NASA. And that was his deathbed confession that he said they're using everybody. We brought him over here with about 2000 other Nazi scientists, if you want to call them Nazis. Some were party members, some not. Yeah. But we brought a whole bunch of them over here because we really needed their expertise.
[00:03:41] They were building V1s and V2s and even, I believe, even put together a nuclear weapon before we did. Yeah. So, yeah, we needed all that information. We brought him over and it looks like, you know, Donald Trump is going to release the JFK files. That's what we hear. Don't you kind of wonder, though? I mean, I doubt.
[00:04:06] I saw the funniest meme this morning about it not having anything like in it all redacted. But what do you think? Do you actually think you're going to get we're going to get information? Oh, I don't know. And is it going to be all redacted again? Yeah. Yeah. You know, yeah. Blacked out. But it's very, very infamous because about when Donald Trump was in last time, he released partial. Yes. The CIA wouldn't allow him.
[00:04:33] But they wanted to deflect everybody's attention away from those files. And so they put in a few of the files about the fact that the FBI was down in Argentina looking for Adolf Hitler. Right. And that we let them we let them go. Well, that. Whoa. Everybody goes. Yeah. And the attention goes down there and it gets off of the JFK files. Hmm. So. Yeah, you're right. What are they going to talk at this time? Are they going to talk aliens?
[00:05:02] They have to bring up something because those JFK files will expose a considerable amount of espionage. Yeah. Within the CIA, FBI and everybody. So true. That is so true. Oh, my gosh. And they won't. Yeah. They don't want to point the finger at themselves. What's that? To relate that to Braun and the scientists, we brought them over. We allowed them to come over.
[00:05:29] They said that this is according to Jim Fetzer. You let Hitler go to Argentina. And we said, OK, we'll let him go to Argentina if you give us all this knowledge. So there was a deal at the end of World War Two. Hmm. To negotiate. So it's fascinating once you start digging into history. Yeah, that is so true. Hitler was not OK with suicide.
[00:05:59] So a lot of people don't realize that, that he was vehemently against it. So to say he did, you know, that was an interesting story. So for sure. Yeah. He died probably in 1964. A couple of investigators say that he's down in Argentina. Yeah. Anyway. OK. Well, I wanted you. There's a couple of things on the docket. So we're even I'm going to I'm even going to get on into Oracle later on in the show.
[00:06:27] But there's a couple of things on the docket for this hour with investigator Dave. And so you wanted to talk about that shooting, the homicide at the Abundant Life School. I'm here in Wisconsin. So just down the road about an hour and a half is they alleged there was a shooting of this girl, 15 year old girl. Her name, you know, is excuse me, Natalie Rupnow, also known as Samantha.
[00:06:57] And she's a 15 year old girl at the school, the Abundant Life Christian School. And so I wanted to kind of go over this with you. Let's investigate it. OK, I'll be Joe Friday, like in the theme of that song you just had. Yeah. And you're my partner, Kate Thursday. OK, I like it. Let's go investigate this thing. All right. All right. Yeah, we've we've we've covered a lot of shootings, by the way.
[00:07:27] Any shooting probably in the last 14 years you and I have covered. So this will be interesting. I can't wait to hear you have to say. Go for it. And we'll say alleged shooting. Yeah. OK. OK. Most of them were. Yeah. Yeah. December 16th, Kate Thursday and I were called to the scene of the school and for an abundant life Christian school for an alleged shooting. When we responded, we talked to Chief Barnes about the school.
[00:07:57] Let's ask them some questions about the shooting. Okay, Chief, what happened here? Well, we've got reports of a shooting here, and there's a bunch of people got shot. Who called it in? First, a little second grader called it in. Oh, yeah? Yeah, but it turned out to be her teacher. But anyway, so what happened here, Chief?
[00:08:23] Well, I can't really tell you who got shot. You can't tell us who got shot? We'll know in a couple days. I'll let you know in a couple days, but I can't reveal that. That's a weird non-reveal. Wait a minute, what? We can't reveal who's been shot, right? Huh? Is that what you just said? Like they did not reveal it? What kind of a gun was you? Yeah?
[00:08:53] No, at first they would not reveal who had been shot, and they still really haven't. But we found out later. They gave us the name of a substitute teacher and a student. Okay? Or at least a substitute teacher advisor. Anyway, they wouldn't tell us. Okay. Chief. All right. Have you got any witnesses? Let me see a witness.
[00:09:22] Well, we don't really have any witnesses. Did anybody hear the shooting? Well, we don't know. We just know it was shot. It was shot. What kind of a gun did she use, Chief? Well, we guess it was a pistol. A pistol. Okay. What kind of ammo? Now we're getting somewhere. Right, right. Yeah. What kind of ammo did she use?
[00:09:51] It was a she, wasn't it? Yeah. It was a she. She used a... Well, we can't tell you the name of the pistol because that would damage our investigation. Okay. What about the brand name? No, no, that'll damage our investigation. What caliber bullets? Well, we did figure out that they were 9mm. Mm-hmm. Okay, wait a minute. Thursday, we're getting somewhere. Okay.
[00:10:18] Now we got a 9mm pistol. Mm-hmm. Okay. How many rounds? Well, we found 21 rounds on the ground. Okay. By the way, what happened to the shooter? Well, she shot herself. Where? We can't tell you. How? Well, we can't tell you. Wow. But she did shoot herself.
[00:10:41] Now, Kate, I just want to let you know, as LAPD homicide, I worked in homicide and I worked the K-CAR. Yeah. I've seen hundreds of dead bodies, people shooting back and, you know, everywhere else. You get a sense after a while what's really making sense and what doesn't. Yeah, this does not make sense. And this is starting to not make sense at all. Wow. Wow. I can't see the weapon.
[00:11:08] You know, have you shoot a pistol, Kate? Yeah. I have. What caliber? I don't even remember because it's been a while. I couldn't even tell you that. I don't remember. But I've been shooting since I was little, but I just haven't shot in a very long time. So, okay. Well, the fact that they found 21 rounds on the floor, 21 rounds, that means it's nine millimeter.
[00:11:37] That means it's not a revolver. We're going to have to do a lot of guessing in here because the chief isn't telling us anything or the news media anything, really. So we've got 21 rounds on the ground. Now, I shoot the nine millimeter and it was a revolver at first. But doggone it, after a few rounds, my wrist, even though I'm young, my wrist starts to hurt. Right. And even if I shoot a .380.
[00:12:06] So she's got a nine millimeter automatic and it's 21 rounds. That means she had to reload the thing, empty it out, reload it, recharge it, and then shoot it again. And probably most guns are, you know, even 10 round magazines. She's going to have to do that. It's going to hurt her wrist. Wow. Yeah. And then she's going to shoot herself. Where did she shoot herself? We don't know. How did she shoot herself? You're not going to?
[00:12:36] Yeah. Oh, too many. There's just, you know what? There's just so many holes. And so we're going to go to break. There's just too many holes. And I get it. It's kind of like every shooting. In fact, what about Matthew Crooks? No one ever even brings him up. The one with the, he was the alleged shooter of the shooting on Trump. What happened? All Family Pharmacy is finally a pharmacy that after 14 years of doing this on the air, I
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[00:15:56] So, allfamilypharma.com. Code word is Kate10. I have Investigator Dave with me. A nice little treat. And we were just going to wrap up sort of this abundant life shooting that you noticed. Because we have done so many shootings on the air. From Las Vegas. The one in Las Vegas. You name it. Dave and I have covered it. And so, I always love having Investigator Dave on. And so, what was the upshot of this for you? What was your walk away? This is clearly a false flag.
[00:16:25] It never happened. Yep. Now, before this ever happened, Governor Evers over here in Wisconsin has been fighting with the Republican legislature. And he wants to restrict the guns more and more and more. And the Republicans say no. And so, after this happened, guess what just happened last week? Governor Evers gets on and he says, I want to call a special session. Right. Because of this shooting in Madison.
[00:16:55] And we want universal background checks and red flag laws and everything else. Because whatever happened in Madison, what happened, can never happen again. Blah, blah, blah. Mm-hmm. And so, I got a feeling what happened was that he went to the, hired the false flag group and said, listen, I need some weight. Yeah. To get some legislation going. Now, there's my own personal belief. He hired the group that's the same type of groups that are involved with us.
[00:17:25] Danny Hook, Columbine, Aurora, Emanuel Church, Charleston, everything else. You know, all of the false flags. And people, they know the news media contacts. They knew how to doctor people. And, you know, they just set it up. They say, okay. Yeah. And I don't know how much he had to pay them to do it, but they put it together. I have been this, yeah, I've just been so many homicides. You get a sense. Right.
[00:17:53] And this one here was a, she shot herself. It was a lone gun woman, if you will. So weird. Well, all the homicides, they never shoot themselves. Yeah. Yeah. Unless it's, you know, not in a homicide scene. Too many bizarre things. So anyway, that's what happened here with this whole thing. And they can't come up with witnesses. They can't come up with guns. They can't come up with anybody that even heard the shooting. You know, really.
[00:18:22] It's crazy. You know, it. The whole thing. It is amazing because we, as a, as a people should, if the, if they're going to come out with these stories, then we, the people have to demand real answers to them. And I don't think we do. I think we kind of go along with whatever they shove at us and we turn off our curiosity and don't ask any good questions or don't put any common sense to it. And then we move on to the next ADD topic that the, that the headline pushers and the narrative
[00:18:50] government news wants to push at us. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you go to the news medias, do they talking about the gun shooting and everything else? No, they're talking about, oh, this is so sad. There's 488 shootings this year in Wisconsin. We've got to do something. And then they interview parents, alleged parents and witnesses, and they're crying and they're talking about, you know, hearts and gratitude and arms around you and sad day and all this,
[00:19:19] how tragic it is. And it goes on and on and on. And if you want to be, you know, if you're Joe Friday, it's just the facts, ma'am.
[00:19:58] I agree. So that, that it was, it was very weird. I have to give, I have to give it to you. It was a very strange one and I'm glad you covered it. When we come back, we actually disagree on something and we're going to bring this up. We're going to bring this up. So stay with us. Yep. Stay with us. Investigator Dave. And we'll have a little debate. And of course, we'll be right back. KateDalyRadio.com. KateDalyRadio.com.
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[00:22:16] We don't have minerals and vitamins in our diet as much. So, all right, Investigator Dave. I put up a Facebook post and I was sort of talking about the, oh, just the, how would you describe it? I said, there's going to be some really good things that happen with President Trump.
[00:22:35] There's also going to be some very alarming things happening because I feel like they set us up pretty good with being very, very, making the left, making the, I mean, could you pick two worse people? Biden and Kamala. They were throwing the race, in my opinion.
[00:22:54] They were making the left so nuts, so crazy and so insane that whatever happens next, we just want a piece of normal and we'll accept a lot of things we would never accept right before. But you actually don't agree with me. So lay out your case. What do you think?
[00:23:15] Well, the reason that you think there may be some good things that happen here and there and there, but to you, these good things are done suspiciously by bad people. That they have an ultimate goal. That there's evil behind it. And so they'll throw us a bone or two. Right. So that they can accomplish their evil designs. Yes. I do think that. Yes. Yeah. That's the bottom line.
[00:23:44] But behind it all, you know, I don't believe that. Okay. What do you think? I believe this. I do, yes. But that the world is so haphazard. There are egotists. There are narcissists. There are good people. There's bad people. Everybody's fighting and struggling for supremacy or for what their good cause is or their bad cause is.
[00:24:10] That it is impossible to organize completely or even a whole lot a worldwide design on the world. I just don't think I haven't seen it. And because I'm a historian also, I see how things change just on a spur, you know, or on a fluke. Okay. It's just crazy.
[00:24:37] And to say that everything, in other words, it sounded like when I read your essay that the world is run by a big AI machine. No. And it's, you know, and it coordinates every action here and there. Oh, right. I don't think that. I actually think they fake AI quite a bit. I actually don't think that. I think that there are a, there is a very big club. Okay. I wouldn't say very big club.
[00:25:07] I was going to say very big, but that's not accurate. It is a club in, in which the same deep state stays in the same deep state positions. Like, uh, like, uh, Scott as the treasurer, uh, Scott Bennett as this, as the treasurer, he is the guy that founded the Soros fund. Okay. So he stayed, he's our treasurer, right? So you have all the same deep state people running the show. And I think that the, the office of president was taken over by the CIA a long time ago.
[00:25:37] And that it's more of like the, uh, mascot and that the game is actually being played on the field. But we're, we're told to just focus on the mascot instead of the game. That's, that's what I think. So what do you think? Okay. Yeah. I want to hear what you think. No, no, because you know what? That man can get sick and fall over that. You're right. That there is a large group and they're, they're constantly there.
[00:26:05] They're almost impossible to upper root or get rid of. And, but what are their goals? Is it to control the election? No, their main goal is to keep the money rolling in, keep themselves in position. And they don't care what happens. Who was it? Joe Stalin said, yeah, no. Give me, no, control. Give me control of the money. And I don't care what the country does. As long as I get the money.
[00:26:35] And that's the main thing. They want to stay in their, what they call power. And they want to keep collecting their money and they want to keep their, you know, control over the things that they've got, but they can't run it all. And if they can't run it all, then there's always a chance that someone will come in there and run them out. So in the 2020 election, we'll just take that election. In the 2020, we all knew that Biden did not win.
[00:27:04] There were not, he was not the most popular man in history as they tried to tell, I still can't believe they tried to tell us that. You didn't get 81 million? No. Yeah. Right. And so they, they, they installed Biden and put him in and everyone went along with it and people weren't questioning it as far as like the press, the government press and everything else. So, so if they're able to do that, then why did they do it then? Why do you think they did it?
[00:27:32] They were so scared of Trump. They really were. They were worried that his second term, you know, no, no, they just have to get him out of there. And I don't know if it's just a scare of Trump. They, you, you, they have such a conglomerate of corporations, money, power, and, and influence over one another.
[00:27:58] You know, they don't, it's beyond just that too. They live in homes. They have families. They got friends. They got their cartels. They got their, I don't know, sex clubs. And that's a biggie, you know, and all these other things that are run, they're running the show and a boy, they just don't want to get stepped on or canceled. So what do you, number two, they're lazy. Huh? No, go ahead. Go ahead.
[00:28:28] So lazy. Okay. Yeah. They're, they're lazy and they want to keep it going. And they don't, I don't believe that they're very intelligent at all. I know that once people start getting into a, a groove, right. I just like this groove. I just want to wake up in the morning. I want my, whatever it is, my, this, that, and, and, and, uh, they don't, they don't want to have it disturbed.
[00:28:56] And then somebody comes along and says, it tries to expose it and they'll do whatever they can to fight them. So, but I do believe that they're divided. So what do you think, what do you think they were so afraid of though? Because, um, president Trump had just done warp speed. I mean, he was also telling people about ivermectin. So I really appreciated that from him to be honest, but he did do operation warp speed and we did the treaty, the North American treaty.
[00:29:21] So what do you think they were so afraid of where, what would be the reason that they put Biden as far as afraid of Trump? What do you, what, what do you think he wasn't going to do? Bill Luton. What do you think he was going to do? Because he's a, he's a, uh, uh, uh, uh, interloper. He's going to come in there and, excuse me for that. Um, they're afraid they're going to lose their power, their status.
[00:29:51] That means a lot to them. It means more that, you know, their personal, what people think of them. Right. So do you think then that they stole that election, but then this one they let happen? Naturally. Yeah. This one, I think there's a couple of reasons and I do. If you want to talk about it. Sure. Sure. We got to go to break, but we're going to come right back. I'll be right back with investigative day. Be right back. Kate Daly show. Kate Daly radio.com.
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[00:31:54] uh, into different, um, uh, theories and, and different things. And of course we've covered a lot of shootings together and, uh, he has a background in LAPD and as a detective and, and, uh, PI. And so you feel that, um, so what do you, if you were to describe the deep state, then how would you describe it? Dave? In plural terms, instead of singular, there is a deep state, but there's also another deep state.
[00:32:24] Okay. Okay. Deep states are power control. Okay. When Vladimir Putin was first elected, uh, in, in, in Russia, one of the first things he needed to do was get rid of the, our day or the old deep state. So he immediately took them out. They had to flee under fear. Some of them he killed. Some of them there had to flee to England, you know, where they were hit with radiation
[00:32:54] poisoning, you know, until he took over bottom line. Bottom line is, is that if you want to control things, you don't just stand around and say, gee, I hope I'm voted in. I hope I get, uh, you know, enough votes and, and I hope people join me. No, you go in there and you take care of who your opposition is. Okay. Okay. Bottom line, bottom line is the ultimate power comes from the barrel of the gun. That's what Mao Zedong said.
[00:33:25] And so I don't, we don't even know about it. Right. But I don't think that the deep state would sit and say, okay, let's just see if he can win or not. I think that there is about, there's a lot of arm twisting behind the scenes. Now, Donald Trump has billions of dollars. He's got friends with billions of dollars. He's got foreigners with billions of dollars in countries that run armies, you know? And I think he's closer to Putin than you think.
[00:33:53] And especially his tactics. And so it looks to us like, oh yeah, we're just voting them all in and they've decided to back off. Right. And let him in, you know? Mm-hmm. But I don't think so. I think they did so under realization that if we keep what we're doing, this is going to get awful hard on us. I see. Okay. So do you think that he's controlled? Yes. Do I think that what?
[00:34:20] Do you think President Trump's controlled by a faction of the deep state? Not his deep state, yes. Okay. The one that you're talking about, no. Okay. I don't think he's controlled by the one that's been running the country for a long time. I think that he's running his own deep state. And now is it going to turn out to be a good one or a bad one? I don't know.
[00:34:49] But he's got people back behind him and he's got interest. Yeah, he's got robot dogs guarding his Mar-a-Lago state, you know? Mm-hmm. And that's just a small example. But yeah, he's running a pretty powerful show. So when they came out with Stargate, what was your thought on that?
[00:35:12] When they were, again, now pushing mRNA vaccines for cancer and the data centers being built, the $500 billion Stargate with Oracle and with Sam Altman. What were your thoughts? Well, Donald Trump, that all came out earlier, right? Mm-hmm. If I remember. A couple days ago. He just announced the $500 billion Stargate. Yeah, fill me in on that a little bit. Oh, okay.
[00:35:41] So they came out and they talked about the fact that they're building all these data centers and that they are spending $500 billion with Masa, Sam Altman, and Oracle and that they are creating, using AI, which I don't believe, I think they already have these, to create a cancer shot that will cure cancer. So it's okay that they build all these data centers because it's for AI to cure cancer. And they announced this and I just thought it was really weird, really strange.
[00:36:10] And I do not believe that they're using AI for a cure cancer shot. And everything's always a shot. No, you're right. The deep state is trying to secure their position. Mm-hmm. So, yeah. And the way to secure the position is to know what's going on everywhere and control everything you can. You can't let in.
[00:36:33] Okay, so do you think they're going to allow him to go rogue and do some restoration of our liberty at all? Do you feel that way? Is that kind of where you're at? You think they'll allow him to go rogue? Yeah. But the bottom line is, whether it's the deep state that's been running us for a while
[00:36:58] or the one that's now trying to push them out and take over, it doesn't matter whatever it is. The goals ultimately are going to be evil because they're not going to be freedom-based because the moment everything is freedom-based, everything falls apart deep state-wise. You can't do that. Right. Okay. So every empire throughout history, you know, you just can't do it. So, yes, will there be a freedom?
[00:37:28] Well, there is kind of in a way, you know, if you're one of the J6 guys, but I'm even worried about that. There's a lot of things. I don't know if they're going to. For instance, just right here, let's just talk it for a second. The JFK files are released. Mm-hmm. Right? Right. Will they be? Will they be? It's supposed to be a couple of weeks before they shake it out. Mm-hmm. Wait a minute. Why is it a couple of weeks? Just open the doors. You know? Yeah. Yeah.
[00:37:58] Yeah. No, no. Well, we'll see about this. Look at the Second Amendment. Trump was talking about reciprocity. Mm-hmm. Has he done anything or even talked about it since he got in? No. You know? Right. Right. So I'm sitting back and waiting to see, wait a minute, let's see results of some of these things. Sure. It's one thing to talk to talk, but I want to see them walk to walk. Yeah. Yeah. So a lot of people will be keeping their eye blind.
[00:38:28] I hope we're just alert because we need to really digest the fact that we haven't received any liberty back, no matter who has been in up till now. So hopefully that. And Chris Ann Hall was on yesterday talking about how there are some steps to reduce government. So we'll see. We'll see how that goes. And I'm always optimistic, but I'm extremely watchful because of what we've been through as a society. But we're out of time. Dang it.
[00:38:56] And Investigator Dave, thank you. Thanks for coming on. It was fun, as it always is. I really appreciate you. And, of course, I'll be right back. Phone lines are open. I'll take your calls, 888-673-1450. 888-673-1450. If you're listening in the afternoon, you can always listen live at katedalyradio.com. Be right back. We'll be right back.