[00:00:09] This show does not come with instructions. Think at your own risk. The Kate Dalley Show starts now. Gavin with the good hair, Newsom. You thought you were going to be president. You're never, ever, ever going to be president. Gavin with the good hair, with the hair gel, little Nancy's nephew. Gavin with the good hair, Newsom. Gavin with the good hair. You're done, Gavin with the good hair.
[00:00:33] Talking about, oh, we want to, we want to Trump-proof California. How about fireproofing California? You're talking about Trump this, Trump that. He's not even president. I don't know what he said. This is on you. I think every taxpayer in America, including those in California, would like to tie this aid to removing Newsom and Bass. Now, gone. Part of the deal would be, and I know Trump likes new ideas. Here's one. Not a dime until those two are whacked from their jobs immediately.
[00:01:01] They are so incompetent, and all of the decisions they've made led to this, and they're still making mistakes. Their horrific managers whack them. Interesting. All right. So that was Michael Rappaport, the actor, and going off on Gavin, which I loved. And then, of course, Gavin with the good hair. And then that was Kevin O'Leary. I played this in the first hour, too. Kevin O'Leary talking about whacking. Interesting choice of words.
[00:01:28] It's Gavin Grusom and Bass, the mayor of California. They're both Marxists. But what's interesting is that he said it was just incompetence. They're not good leaders. No, they have an agenda. So that's usually, you know, people's comments always crack me up because they won't go to the heart of it. But, I mean, I like what he said, but they don't go to the heart of the issue, and that is that these guys are on the agenda. They have an agenda. They are part of the club, and they're to destroy, right? So there's that clip.
[00:01:58] And I also wanted to say on the Ukraine generals, there are Ukrainians in power that did lose some homes, from what I understand. Were they all Ukrainian generals? Like they said, eight Ukrainian generals. It doesn't look like it. It looks like there was a piece of disinformation on that. We talked about it yesterday. Merritt talked about it. I talked about it with Maven Ray.
[00:02:23] Just kind of clarifying a little bit more there, and that there's like a disinfo piece of that story. And then, of course, Thomas Massey removed by Speaker Mike Johnson from the Rules Committee. And I think Massey is their only hope in Congress. There is no other congressman. Even in my state of Utah, the congressmen are not good. They always go with the club. And so I live in a state that pretends to be conservative.
[00:02:50] And Thomas Massey actually is one that will stand up to it, stand up to the nonsense. But they took him off the Rules Committee. That's Speaker Johnson with the Lego hair. So anyway, welcome to the show, second hour. And of course, I have Midwest Melissa. How are you? You should just call me Frozen Melissa. Frozen Melissa in the Midwest. It's like zero degrees here today. Are you freezing? Yeah. Yeah, like literally freezing. It's zero. I've heard. It's awful.
[00:03:18] I've heard. And we're getting huge cold fronts because it's winter. So yeah. Yeah, I'm not that. Yeah. I've lived through this before. And you know something? There's nothing like really cold weather to make you grateful for a hot shower in the morning. There you go. I'm telling you now. Oh my gosh. There you go. So I love it. Where do you want to start? Where do you want to start? We've covered a lot of ground with Susan. And where do you want to start? Well, this is a fun story for me because, you know, I'm kind of like the history wonk. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:03:46] So this kind of caught my eye. And COVID, the same COVID scientists that developed the vaccine for COVID, same people, AstraZeneca, they're developing a vaccine now that they want to introduce in the UK for, drumroll please, for the Black Plague, for the bubonic plague. Because is that an outbreak now? We've had Ebola.
[00:04:17] We've had... The 1600s. Yeah. And I did take a minute to look up. When was the last time that anyone in England died from the plague? Or even had the plague? 1600s? I'm going to go with 1600s, Alex, for 500. Yes. It's 1679. Hmm. So, 400 years ago, they had a plague.
[00:04:47] And truly, the Black Plague is a bad thing. I'm not denying that. If you lived in 1351, you should be concerned. But, you know... You know what? But, okay, not only do they just keep making the most, like, overdone movies with the same exact plot, with the same exact everything. I mean, we just get it, like, shoved in our faces with everything. It's this, too.
[00:05:16] We have to reinvent the Black Plague. I mean, can't they ever come up with anything new? That's my question. Well, they did... Well, they really didn't with COVID, because it was all the same symptoms all the time. So, it's just always a new name. But it just cracks me up to no end. The plague absolutely has different symptoms, right? Yeah. Although, there is a form of the plague that has, like, mnemonic... But, you know something?
[00:05:41] Once they cleaned up the streets of London from having active human waste being dumped into the streets, and thousands of horses that were pooping and peeing on the streets, and they took the garbage out of the streets so that the rats and the vermin that carried plague fleas left the... Or at least were controlled. Mm-hmm. They haven't had that as an outbreak. So, what are they doing now?
[00:06:12] Well, it makes... So, we can go down... Speaking of going down a rat hole, right? Mm-hmm. The rat hole to go down is, if they're wanting to vaccinate people for that, are they planning to introduce it again? Mm. Yeah. Hmm. Interesting. Maybe. Mm-hmm. And so, really... I wouldn't put it past them. I mean... I wouldn't either. And the plague is horrific.
[00:06:40] However, how do you get the plague? Let's talk about the plague for a minute. And just in case you forgot your high school history class, the plague is a bacteria. Mm-hmm. It's your cena pestis. It's carried... It's a bacteria carried in the intestinal system of fleas, right? Mm-hmm. And so, the fleas bite usually a rodent of some kind. Mm-hmm. And then the rodent comes in contact with you or you come in contact with the fleas. Mm-hmm.
[00:07:08] So, Kate, how many fleas, flea bites do you get a year? I have no idea. Sorry, I just... How many flea bites are people getting in London a year or in Yorkshire or wherever? Yeah. If you're not having an active flea outbreak, then you wouldn't come in contact with the fleas that carry the bacteria. It's so ridiculous. Honestly, these people get paid to put out a vaccine for this?
[00:07:39] Well, here's the fun part, too. This is more fun. Mm-hmm. Because in reading all these articles, the hysteria... Mm-hmm. Did you know, Kate? Did you know? Oh, the humanity. The Black Plague has killed millions of people. You know, it's killed millions. And I'm like, yeah, in 1351, it killed millions. Mm-hmm. It's not killing millions today. I actually took the time. Let me see if I can pull it up here.
[00:08:10] How many... Between 2010 and 2015, there were only 3,248 cases worldwide of the plague. There were 584 deaths. Okay. In 10 years. Well, in five years, excuse me. That's not... Thousands of people are dying every year from the plague. Yep. It's true. But it's hysterical. I don't know why anyone believes these people. I really don't.
[00:08:39] Same thing with measles. They do the same thing with measles. It's always this super hyped-up, hyper, you know, media coverage. And then it's like, and by the way, it's very mild. You get over in a few days. Yeah. Well, truly, if you got the plague, it wouldn't be a very mild thing for a few days. Right. It is a lethal, horrible way to die. But we're not getting it. That's what's so... That's what's so... Let's take a caller. Let's take a quick call. Hi, caller. Welcome to the show. Go right ahead. Hey, thank you. Sure.
[00:09:09] Just a couple things with the plague. Number one, it's treated with mild antibiotics to a great success level. Yes. The plague isn't really that bad. There are a couple dozen people in America that get it every year. But it's mild antibiotics. And the second part of this, I was listening to a course on the black plague not too long ago. One of the great courses, not that I'm advising that. But it was saying there's three different parts of the black plague or three different types of it.
[00:09:35] The one that we think of, of course, is the one where you drop on the ground, bleed out of your eyes and your ears and you're dead immediately. And the course was saying it actually shares an awful lot of symptomatology with anthrax poisoning. And so people that are looking to the black plague, into these things, into plague pits where they buried all the plague victims, they're looking more at... They're starting to think this may be more an anthrax poisoning thing than the actual plague. The plague is not something that we have to worry about right now.
[00:10:04] We have really good sanitation. We have really good containment. We're doing well in that area. So I'm with you on that. Yeah, you're right. It does. Yeah, it would resemble an anthrax. That's interesting. Okay. Huh. Thank you, caller. The antibiotics. Appreciate it. They treat it. They treat the plague today with streptomycin or doxycycline. Yeah. How many of us have ever been on those? And wait, wait.
[00:10:30] Now, I have to make this point because what if we get bacteria, you know, antibiotic resistance to the plague? What would happen then? And let me go back to the show that we did a couple of days ago or not a couple of days ago, a couple of weeks ago. Bacteriophages have been used to treat the plague successfully. Yeah. Remember when we talked about bacteria? That's right. I know. You're right. Yeah.
[00:10:55] So we have legitimate, tested, proven treatments that do not cause horrible side effects available, but they're developing a vaccine instead of looking at bacteriophages. Their only answer will always be a vaccine. It's going to be in a vial with a needle. And God made us some very wonderful bodies with a great immune system.
[00:11:21] And so if everyone's looking for their answer and the government only has one, okay, and that is vial and a needle, something's wrong with us in how stupid we must be. Remember I told you, you can't patent a bacteriophage because it's something that exists in nature. Right. But you can patent a vaccine. So follow the money. Yeah. Follow the money. Always follow the money. But seriously, I don't know why. Why?
[00:11:46] There have been plague outbreaks most recently in the Congo, in Madagascar, Madagascar and Peru. And even then, the numbers that I gave you, you know, 584 deaths in a five-year period. Is it worth the development cost of an actual vaccine to do that? It's not worth the vaccine. You know, let's take the money and invest it in, like, anti-fuel treatment.
[00:12:15] I think one of the best things people could do is get rid of any government shot in existence. And I think we'd actually be so much better off. And our health would be better. And please stop taking their shots. Please stop taking their answers. They're known liars at this point. We understand, you know. It's like I can't imagine somebody going in and going, yes, please, flu shot, COVID booster, thank you. And I can't imagine. I can't imagine how stupid one would have to be at this point. And, yes, I'd like that black plague shot, please.
[00:12:45] Good grief. Be right back, Kate Daly Show. I'll be right back with Midwest Melissa. Be right back. This is the Kate Daly Show.
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[00:14:30] And this is doctor prescriptions. They actually come right to your door and you can order them from home, right on your phone. So that's nice, right? All right. Midwest Melissa, back here with you. UK. Let's finish out with the plague thing here. I want to make sure everybody understands this is not something in the offing in the United States right now. Even though we do have cases of plague here, about seven cases a year.
[00:14:56] And they're usually in places, the only states that have these outbreaks like Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, California, and Oregon. So they're places that host the kind of rodent-y things that live out in the scrubby areas. So I don't think we need to be overly worried about anybody here pushing it. But it is coming from AstraZeneca, which is interesting.
[00:15:25] I don't know why anyone at this point would trust anything coming from AstraZeneca. Me neither. Or Pfizer. At this point. Yeah. The other thing about it is that I find just so fascinating. They're saying, well, the only treatment we have is antibiotics. Well, how many other illnesses?
[00:15:48] Do we need three or four different ways to treat something before we are not worried about it? So I'm not sure. They seem to be worried about some superbug developing. Well, how would a superbug develop on the plague unless somebody's cooking one in a lab? And it's just kind of nonsensical.
[00:16:16] There's also been this big push about, oh, well, you know, if you're working a lab, like if you're in some kind of bio lab where they have lots of rats or they're using lab animals, you might need to be protected in that case. So the bacteria really comes from wild animals. So I'm not sure how many lab rats are hanging out in the desert in New Mexico
[00:16:43] that they go out and capture white lab rats and put them in a lab somewhere. But I think the whole thing is just really overblown. And yeah, the poor UK. I think they're going a lot of places that nobody should go. And the people there don't want to go there either. They've trained us to think that the solution, just like in Blovid 2020, they already had the solution and they didn't even name it.
[00:17:13] We didn't even know what it was. It was the mystery and they already had their solution. And that was only a shot. And that was the only solution they were going to come up with, which I thought was something that we should be smart enough to grasp. Like when we're seeing that take place in front of us, it's kind of like it reminds me of the of this type of logic. Climate change will continue to strike attractive locations that the state wishes to purchase at a discount. It's the same. It's the same.
[00:17:43] I should be good here in Indiana. Nobody wants to live here. Right. It's like the same nonsense. And we can't figure it out. Like we can't, you know, it's like, ooh, but we got to trust the government. I mean, it is amazing to me how much we're willing to trust, even after death and illness and cancer and inflammatory diseases and all these stuff that didn't even exist back in the Black Plague. So as far as that goes, all kinds of things. So we just have to get smarter. This is getting ridiculous.
[00:18:10] Nothing could incite fear like COVID. I was never really afraid of COVID. You know, I was like, it's a respiratory illness. I have those. I've had them in the past. I will live through this one, too. But the Black Plague is like a specter being resurrected out of the Middle Ages, really. We'll be right back. Yeah. It's so horrible. We'll be right back. More with Midwest Melissa. Coming right back. Kate Daly Show. KateDalyRadio.com.
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[00:20:46] Who was the one that put her, sat her next to Kamala? I don't know. But horse face. But she has been going off on Little Chihuahua Nancy. So they were friends. They aren't anymore. It's just an interesting little cabal club of horrific women. And, yep, the two women posed for president have been Hillary, mostly Hillary and Kamala. And they're both horrific. So horrific. They repelled even their own. And so then there's that Michelle rumor going around.
[00:21:15] Have you heard that one, Kate? I have. Since we're. You have heard the Michelle rumor? Yeah. That she's sick. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. Michelle Lowe. Yeah. Michael. Okay. So, oh, let's talk. Let's talk about alcohol. We should have done this. Let's transition alcohol. Go ahead. Maybe we all need a drink after this. Oh, my gosh. So I thought this was very interesting.
[00:21:44] We should have done this before New Year's for people that like to do that sort of thing on New Year's Eve. Right. There is a new report or a report out that has been released by Vivek Murthy, who is a surgeon general. He's one of the Dr. Murthy.
[00:22:02] He's one of the part of the surgeon general's office has released an advisory just out January 3rd of this year, highlighting the link between alcohol and cancer. Hmm. So that's a new one. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Believe this or not, this is what they're saying. Alcohol-induced cancer deaths are higher than alcohol-associated traffic fatalities.
[00:22:31] Interesting. Okay. Hmm. Who would have guessed that? Yeah. And so most people think, oh, you know, overconsumption of liquor leads to like cirrhosis. It damages your liver. It does all kinds of other health problems. But these guys are saying under half of Americans that they surveyed did not know that alcohol posed a cancer risk to them. Hmm.
[00:22:59] And how much, how much liquor does it take to do this? As little as one alcoholic drink can increase your likelihood of getting certain types of cancer. Hmm. Wow. Interesting. So if there was ever a time to like become a teetotaler, this is the time, right? Give it up. Yeah. Give it all up. And you and I don't drink, but this is kind of an interesting, interesting story coming out. I mean. Yeah. Yeah. And this is particularly bad for women.
[00:23:29] Breast cancer is one of the higher risk cancers affiliated with this kind of thing. Right. Oh, it's very sad. So what they are pushing for right now is they want to put a warning label on alcoholic beverages, similar to what goes on a cigarette package that warns you that drinking alcohol increases your risk of cancer. Hmm. You think they'll do it? I don't know. I don't know.
[00:23:58] I don't know. We'll see. I, I, I don't like, um, bigger, uh, government coming on to tell us what not to do and what to do. Um, but at this, you know, it'll be interesting to see what they do with this. So, yeah. Here's what they're saying. Here's the science behind it. Apparently that alcohol can affect your DNA, that alcohol, you know, consumption of alcohol actually induces changes in your DNA at the cellular level. Doesn't.
[00:24:28] So alcohol breaks into a seedal, a seedal aldehyde. You know, doesn't it change our DNA? Doesn't it kind of sound like they're trying to come up with story after story to explain our chain or changing DNA from their shots and pinning it on alcohol? I'm pinning it on all these things. I wonder, well, you know, that's an interesting theory. I don't know. Cause they're trying to do that with heart attacks. They're trying to say that everything causes heart attacks, except their shots, take their shots.
[00:24:57] And, uh, and so could they be doing it with this story? I mean, maybe it does. That's an interesting thought. But maybe they are going overboard on this to then squelch rumors that the shots do that. That's interesting. Yeah. Well, and you know what I find to be really fascinating. I, I am trying to stay away from medical offices, but was asked by someone recently that there's an elderly couple. They needed a ride to their medical appointment. So my husband and I did that for them.
[00:25:26] And it's the first time I've been in a medical office in a long, long time. And I was shocked at, we're still continuing to push inside the health establishment, social distancing, wearing a mask, washing your hands, which I have no problem with washing your hands. Everybody should wash their hands, but, and getting a COVID vaccine. That was still on the list. They're still pushing it.
[00:25:52] You know, I pity, I pity the medical professionals that are still standing behind this because all they do is look like greedy little bastards. I'm serious. They really do. I mean, it's because they're getting paid to, to, to siphon these off on people and to say, oh yes, you should take it. And I can't imagine somebody being that stupid at this point in time in 2025. You're right. At this, at this moment, Pfizer is even saying, okay, here's the list of the side effects.
[00:26:21] Even they can't hide it anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I was reading that list to my husband the other night and he goes, stop already. That's a long list. And I'm like, yeah, but we know people with these things. We know people that have these illnesses now. If you, yeah. You know, if you have a medical professional that actually is pushing a shot on you, please leave them. Please leave them. It's the best thing you could ever do. Sorry. Go ahead. And you know, by the way, that is good advice.
[00:26:47] If you have somebody that's pushing a shot, whether they're pushing Ozempic at you or whether they're pushing a vaccine at you or whether I've told you before about my, my doctor that I walked away from because they were pushing a shingles vaccine at me. Right. I'm like, I've never had chicken pox. I can't get a disease that's chicken pox based without ever having the virus. Right. And he was just like, I said, why should I get this? And he said, well, you're over 50.
[00:27:16] I said, is that the only reason you can give me? Oh my gosh. Well, yeah, that's what you're supposed to do when you're over 50. This is one thing that you do. And I'm like, I'm not doing it. If their solution of shots comes with kickbacks to doctors to sell you on said shots, then it's not something you should put in your body. Oh my gosh. And, uh, and I can't even imagine somebody at this point in time, you would have to have your head so far in the sand. I'll go with that one.
[00:27:45] I, I, I, there's, I, I mean, I worry, I really worry about people who are that dense, but, um, look around, just look around. We got lots of problems and, um, they're still, they're still trying to get this people to take these. Amazing. Oh my gosh. They were still handing out the, the, the poster still on the wall. They're still asking, you know, if you've been exposed to COVID, you have to tell the nurse when you first walk in.
[00:28:12] And they're, and they're so there's, they're, they're solving so many problems that there's money attached to it. You know, it's just amazing to me. Um, yeah. The doctors get kickbacks. You've been exposed to the bubonic plague. Please let the nurse know. Be right back with Midwest Melissa. Uh, we're going to talk about the ancients. Ooh, you're going to like this. Be right back. Kate Daly show.
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[00:29:10] I have got Midwest, uh, Melissa on with me. It's Wednesday. Of course, tomorrow is Mel Madison on a Thursday instead of a Tuesday. And of course, uh, Chrisanne Hall, uh, join me tomorrow. And, um, I'm trying to think, oh, investigator Dave on Friday too. So that should be interesting too. He's got some stuff, uh, at the ready. So, um, he'll be fun to listen to. So of course, uh, hit the website, uh, go down to my website. My sponsors are certain things that, um, let I'm, I'm letting you in on telling you to get olive oil is one of them.
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[00:30:06] We've all heard the stories are all seen, not, we haven't heard the stories, but we've all seen the conundrum. How did the ancients build these massive stone walls with no mortar? How did they do it? And there's some very interesting speculation right now. That's people that people in the know are talking about. Mm hmm.
[00:30:31] And what they're suggesting is that perhaps both in Africa, as well as in South America, the places where we see these monumental, big, giant blocks of stone that they may have. There's a couple of theories. One of the theories is that they had something that they were liquefying stone because sometimes the stones, especially in South America, they take on this glassy kind of molten appearance. Mm hmm. So there's been some suggestion.
[00:31:01] Well, how would they do that? How would they melt stone? You have to have super high temperature to melt stone. And some of the stones that the ancients were using are very hard on the hardness scale. They rate if 10 is like diamond, the stones that they were using and carving were like eight and nine hardness. So super hard things, so hard that even metal would be difficult to work these stones.
[00:31:29] And they don't think that they had those kinds of metals available. So that's one theory. They were actually, they had some way, some technology that we don't know or understand that they could actually melt them. The one that I think is really intriguing, though, has to do with two plants that one is found in Africa, one's found in South America, that if you process these plants in the right way, you can produce hydrofluoric acid with them. Hmm.
[00:31:59] And hydrofluoric acid is very caustic and volatile. Mm-hmm. You can make a paste out of hydrofluoric acid and put it over stone and it would actually eat the stone away. Hmm. So, um... In today's, in today's, uh, uh, vernacular, we have Coke. I mean, no, I'm just kidding. Coke does that. Yeah.
[00:32:25] Coke can get rid of your, uh, your, uh, driveway stains. Anyway, go. My, my farmer father-in-law used to use Coke to freeze frozen, uh, like bearing joints. Oh my gosh. So there you go. Oh. Um, but anyway, they could put, they could remove a boulder and then they could use this corrosive paste, set it in place.
[00:32:49] And literally that corrosion would eat away until the rocks settled into the place that they wanted it. Hmm. It's a very intriguing thought. Um, and to kind of further add to the intrigue, if you read in the Bible, apparently Solomon, who built the temple, used something called Shamir. Mm-hmm.
[00:33:16] And it's described in the Bible as the way that they cut the stone for the temple without using cutting tools. What would that be? So this person is suggesting, when people that are looking at this are suggesting, were they using some kind of chemical reaction to cut stone with that did not require a cutting tool? They were using chemistry to do it instead. Hmm.
[00:33:44] Which I think is simply fascinating. You know, so the, the plant is, if I can pronounce it right, I have no idea if I'm saying these right. Di, di, di capetalum in Africa and palachoria in South America. Mm-hmm. These are plants that are common. They're kind of scrubby now. Nobody uses them. You can't eat them, obviously.
[00:34:11] They, they produce hydrofluoric acid if you run them out. But they don't, they can't, how were the ancients working with these super hard stone surfaces and making very precise etchings, engravings on stone? Were they using an acid to actually burn out the, the engraving or the carving or the stone itself? Hmm. It's a fascinating kind of new thing. Hmm.
[00:34:41] But could they soften stone with it? Yeah. Hmm. So we tend to think that how we do things is how everybody ever in the past has always done things. Yeah. And that's a new way of thinking. You know, we've heard about levers. We've heard about all kinds of things, but we've never heard about molten stone. We've never heard about acid being used to set stones and people are trying to beginning to experiment with it.
[00:35:09] And they're finding evidence in Egypt. Right. Of some of the, there's no, there's nothing on some of these stones that show that they were worked with any tool. Yeah. So, you know, you're either stuck with ancient aliens. That's one theory. Which I don't believe. You know, Jonathan Gray, who, the late Jonathan Gray, we used to have him on the show and I've played him in rerun and he's an explorer, archeologist.
[00:35:37] He actually wrote a series called Dead Men's Secrets. And it's a great book to get. It's an incredible book to get because it goes through all of this. It goes through how the Egyptians bored into granite rock and, and all this technology that we do not think they had. And it's, I think it's amazing too. I'm, I'm right there with you looking into the past and seeing it in a completely different light. Well, what's interesting too about this, both in Egypt and in South America, this, these,
[00:36:04] the two plants are associated with a bird. And this is the same bird that land, they, the bird plucks this plant and then sets it on the rock and then builds its nest on top of the hole that's bored into the rock from the plant. Yeah. And he, the, the guy that's writing about this and talking about it is like, isn't that interesting? You have, what was the connection between Egypt and South America that they would have the exact
[00:36:32] same kind of mythology around a bird and a hole and a nest and a rock. And they also share DNA. And not it be an actual thing that they were seeing and witnessing happen. Mm-hmm. I think there are a lot of DNA is shared. I think a lot of people traveled to vast lands. Sometimes we, we get into this thinking that they didn't and it's like, oh no, they did. And so I think a DNA test would actually show that. I love it. I love that you're diving into this.
[00:36:58] Well, what's fascinating to me, my husband actually used hydrofluoric acid professionally in his job. And it's very difficult to work with even now. Yeah. Because it burns through everything. Right. You have to be very careful in the kind of containers it can be kept in and the kind of ways it can be used and handled. Thank you. How you have to protect yourself to handle it. So true. So it makes you wonder what the ancients were doing. I know, right? Yes, exactly. I love, I love the thinking. Love it. All right. Midwest Melissa, thank you so, so much.
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