The Complexity of Bureaucracy

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[00:03:37] Draining the swamp.

[00:03:39] Red tape paper pushers, bean counters.

[00:03:43] Yep, that's what we've called them.

[00:03:45] Vast cookie cutter buildings with fluorescent lighting and thousands of file cabinets.

[00:03:52] Bureaucrats and bureaucracy.

[00:03:55] I recently wrote an article.

[00:03:57] I think it was last Friday.

[00:03:59] Speaking of the complexities of the industrial complexes that are running our government affairs.

[00:04:07] There is the military industrial complex for which President Eisenhower warned us.

[00:04:14] And we did not heed.

[00:04:16] Look where we are today.

[00:04:18] The media industrial complex for which President Nixon warned us.

[00:04:24] And we did not heed.

[00:04:27] And today we talk about, with the draining of the swamp, the bureaucratic industrial complex, which I am warning us about.

[00:04:40] Yeah, I know.

[00:04:41] I'm not a president.

[00:04:43] It's a good Substack article that I wrote.

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[00:04:59] The industrial complexes work against our Constitution.

[00:05:11] And it was kind of forced on we, the people, wasn't it?

[00:05:19] But remember what William Pitt, Earl of Chapman, said about necessity.

[00:05:25] Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom.

[00:05:29] It is the argument of tyrants.

[00:05:30] It is the creed of slaves.

[00:05:33] I stumbled on a website that explained, historically, our government bureaucracy.

[00:05:39] Since we hired President Trump on November 5th to drain the swamp, remember, it is more than just the bureaucrat offices.

[00:05:50] I also thought it would help us to go back and look at the history of Section F.

[00:05:56] Again, we have these in the office if you would care to have a copy.

[00:06:00] And I encourage you to send for a copy of the Section F.

[00:06:04] And we'll talk about that a little more here later.

[00:06:08] We have some news to cover along with our study of realization of America's bureaucracy.

[00:06:16] Remember, it is not the third branch of government.

[00:06:19] However, it seems to function as such, which limits our liberty.

[00:06:26] Will the Doge save us?

[00:06:29] Or will it become another department of bureaucrats and bureaucracy?

[00:06:37] I guess time will tell.

[00:06:39] I don't think that Elon Musk is going to want to stay there very long.

[00:06:43] I think he's going to get the job done and move on.

[00:06:46] I hope that's what's going to happen.

[00:06:48] But we do have some news.

[00:06:50] And so we want to get to that before we start our little study on bureaucracy.

[00:06:53] Now, don't call, don't think that this is going to be boring because I think you're really going to enjoy this study of bureaucracy.

[00:06:59] Because it goes way back, farther than we even want to remember.

[00:07:03] Most of us can't remember that far back because we weren't even born yet.

[00:07:06] Way back in our country.

[00:07:10] So, the would-be assassin, this just came out before I went on the air.

[00:07:14] The would-be assassin sends a letter to the media revealing Obama-Iran-linked shooting motive.

[00:07:22] Ryan Roth, a gunman accused of attempting to assassinate President Donald Trump.

[00:07:28] Remember the one on his golf course?

[00:07:31] Has sent a letter to the corporate media, should we say, the media industrial complex.

[00:07:38] Anyway, from its federal detention, he sent that from where he's in jail, revealing his political motivations.

[00:07:45] It addressed to Politico and other outlets, the letter sharply criticizes Trump's foreign policy,

[00:07:54] particularly his withdrawal from President Barack Obama's Iran nuclear deal known as the Joint Comprehension Plan of Action, JCPOA.

[00:08:06] Roth bizarrely accused Trump of destabling the Middle East, parroting the Iranian regime and the Democrat Party talking points,

[00:08:22] and blaming Trump for all those lives lost and all the destruction.

[00:08:28] Didn't happen under Trump's presidency, but he's blaming Trump anyway.

[00:08:33] In the letter, Roth called for peace in the region, urging Biden and Secretary Blinken to negotiate with Iran, Hezbollah, and the Houthis.

[00:08:44] We must demand that Israel stop their attacks and find common ground.

[00:08:49] Hmm. Seems a little one-sided there, doesn't he?

[00:08:53] He wrote this, positioning himself as a critic of the U.S. foreign policy under Trump.

[00:09:00] The JCPOA, in fact, emboldened Iran.

[00:09:04] We know that.

[00:09:05] And its proxies.

[00:09:06] But Roth is known for his longstanding loyalty to the Islamic Republic.

[00:09:13] Who else was that?

[00:09:15] Oh, it was Obama that had that.

[00:09:17] Though his personal connections are not known, in 2018, he wrote to the Iranian government,

[00:09:24] you are free to assassinate Trump.

[00:09:27] Now, who is he to give him such an order?

[00:09:30] While disavowing direct allegiance with the Democrat Party,

[00:09:35] Roth referred to Trump as a dictator.

[00:09:38] Where did we hear that?

[00:09:40] He has also linked himself with Thomas Crooks, who was the one that attacked Trump, shot Trump, and others in Pennsylvania.

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[00:13:08] We're all anxious as Trump is putting together a cabinet.

[00:13:11] And, of course, these cabinet members and then secretaries here, secretaries there of the bureaucracy that we want him to drain.

[00:13:18] But there are certain places, I guess, that are necessary.

[00:13:22] But we have to admit that we don't like them all.

[00:13:28] Some of them are not necessary.

[00:13:30] This just came up during the commercial.

[00:13:32] So I'm just only going to read to you the title.

[00:13:37] And it's coming from Tom Homan.

[00:13:40] And we know Tom Homan is one bad you-know-what dude, okay?

[00:13:45] He's not going to take any guff off of him.

[00:13:47] So the mayor of Denver in particular says she is willing to go to jail.

[00:13:56] Tom Homan says, I'm willing.

[00:13:59] It's a him, not a her.

[00:14:00] I'm willing to put him in jail.

[00:14:03] So bring it on, guys.

[00:14:05] You all that want to have these sanctuary cities and whatevers and see what Tom Homan has to say about it.

[00:14:15] Now, I found this interesting.

[00:14:17] It has nothing to do with bureaucrats.

[00:14:18] But I found this very interesting.

[00:14:21] The left, I mean radical left, filmmaker agrees that Biden is pushing America into a World War III.

[00:14:31] Who am I talking about?

[00:14:33] Michael Moore.

[00:14:34] He's blasting the Democrats and Joe Biden, accusing the 82-year-old president of further destabilizing the world and fomenting conflict.

[00:14:44] In a letter addressed to Biden, Moore challenged what he perceives as Biden's emerging legacy, warning that the lame-deck leader could start World War III.

[00:14:59] And we have it this way.

[00:15:01] Instead of using your precious little time, he wrote this to the present.

[00:15:04] Instead of using your precious little time to do something, help the American people, your first action from after Trump won was to fast track the delivery of over $6 billion in weapons to Ukraine.

[00:15:20] Moore, the director of the anti-gun film Bowling for Columbine Rights.

[00:15:26] And he went on.

[00:15:27] Then you called up Zelensky and gave him the green light to start firing long-range ballistic missiles into a country with a massive amount of nuclear weapons.

[00:15:37] Russia.

[00:15:38] Then, as if that weren't enough carnage for one week, you authorized the use of anti-personnel landmines in Russia.

[00:15:47] He continued.

[00:15:49] Landmines?

[00:15:50] Joe, seriously?

[00:15:52] This is your legacy?

[00:15:53] This is how you want to go out in a blaze of glory?

[00:15:57] Like, if Joe's got to go, we all got to go with him right into World War III?

[00:16:05] He wrote this to the president.

[00:16:07] I'm getting a kick out of it.

[00:16:10] Moore goes on to condemn Biden-Harris government for their opposing move by 19 and 19 senators to block U.S. weapons shipments to Israel.

[00:16:23] He lambasts allegations from Biden's team, labeling these senators as Hamas sympathizers.

[00:16:30] Okay.

[00:16:31] So one would think Moore has maybe had a, you know, a change of thoughts.

[00:16:38] But then he goes,

[00:16:39] Moore also expresses disapproval of the U.S. decision to obstruct U.N. call for ceasefire in Gaza, slamming Biden's refusal to endorse an international court warrant for Israel's prime minister Netanyahu.

[00:16:57] Earlier this year, Moore accused Biden of supporting ethnic cleansing due to U.S. support for Israel.

[00:17:04] So he got it right until he got it wrong.

[00:17:09] Sometimes you just don't know about these people.

[00:17:13] Drill, baby, drill is another thing that just came off the presses this morning.

[00:17:17] Actually, I think I got it.

[00:17:18] Yeah, I got it this morning.

[00:17:19] Trump's on course to honor natural gas campaign pledge.

[00:17:23] And, of course, he's doing this through what he is putting in place as a cabinet.

[00:17:27] And they're going to open.

[00:17:29] It says in January, Joe Biden implemented a pause on the LNG export permits, a decision that faced criticism from the U.S. industry, energy industry and lawmakers from both major parties.

[00:17:45] But Trump's going to reopen Keystone.

[00:17:50] He's going to open the fracking operation.

[00:17:53] He's going to drill, baby, drill.

[00:17:56] He also intends to exit the Paris Climate Agreement once again.

[00:18:02] I think America hired Trump to get some things done.

[00:18:08] And we need to help him get her done.

[00:18:13] I wrote a substack yesterday about that.

[00:18:16] And I talked to you yesterday about that.

[00:18:18] Our job did not end when we cast our vote and walk away.

[00:18:25] We the people, if a constitutional republic is the people, consent of the governed.

[00:18:33] And if we're just voting and walking away, we're leaving it in the hands of the elected and their bureaucrats.

[00:18:43] So, what is the old expression about, I think there was a song about I was country before it was cool.

[00:18:50] You remember that?

[00:18:52] So, all of a sudden, we're all against the Democrats.

[00:18:55] I mean, I'm sorry, we're all against the bureaucracy.

[00:18:58] And it's cool now.

[00:18:59] Trump is cool.

[00:19:01] People are doing his dance on the football field.

[00:19:04] All of a sudden, it's freedom.

[00:19:06] Trump.

[00:19:07] Everything's cool, man.

[00:19:10] Accountability is coming.

[00:19:12] I've not heard her speak of this, but apparently she has talked about it some.

[00:19:16] But I have not.

[00:19:17] I've got to watch old Johnny Ernst because she will vote the wrong way lots of times.

[00:19:23] But she sends Musk's doge a trillion dollars worth of ideas to gut the government spending.

[00:19:33] So, all of a sudden, it's popular and a few of the congressional members are going to jump on the bandwagon because it's cool now to be doge.

[00:19:43] Got it?

[00:19:45] She's been in Congress how long now?

[00:19:49] A while.

[00:19:51] Well, I remember when she was a young upstart there.

[00:19:55] We had great hopes for her.

[00:19:57] Well, apparently, she put through a bill and it went down the hill here a while back.

[00:20:02] But she's got all kinds of ideas formed now and she's going to push it because now doge is cool.

[00:20:11] So, I'm reading another article yesterday and I'm thinking about the bureaucracy.

[00:20:16] And Johnny Ernst's one came up.

[00:20:18] That was from Daily Caller.

[00:20:21] This one is from the Washington Examiner.

[00:20:24] It's written by Timothy Carney.

[00:20:26] Healthy eating through smaller government.

[00:20:29] And he makes the point that the government got involved and things got ugly.

[00:20:40] And he talks about, well, let me just read a little bit of it to you.

[00:20:45] Two things that used to be distinctive to the left side of the aisle are becoming native to the Trump GOP.

[00:20:53] Heavy-handed government intervention and distrust of processed mass product produced food.

[00:21:00] In this, he talks about big food cartels, big farming cartels, and how they all work together.

[00:21:11] In fact, the FDA gets in on it.

[00:21:14] It's an industrial complex here.

[00:21:18] The industrial complex of corporate America.

[00:21:21] That they got large.

[00:21:24] You know, we used to break them all up like Ma Bell.

[00:21:27] But now, they all get together and they work their deals.

[00:21:33] D.C. occupiers occupy an office and cut deals.

[00:21:39] So, he says that Kennedy's wrong when he blames certain sides.

[00:21:47] And, well, let me just say.

[00:21:49] He says, Josh Hawley, and that's our senator from Missouri, is one of the loudest voices for economic nationalism

[00:21:57] and an aggressive federal role called for antitrust action.

[00:22:01] Now, we know what the antitrust action does or doesn't do when government gets involved.

[00:22:07] The domination of a select few companies, he wants to break them up,

[00:22:11] in the American meatpacking industry is cause for serious concern.

[00:22:15] Hawley is right to hate consolidation in the food industry and not only in the meatpacking.

[00:22:23] He says, and Luna is not alone in lamenting.

[00:22:26] He's talked about Representative Anna Luna from Florida response to Trump's pick of Kennedy

[00:22:32] by calling for a ban on all sorts of additives plus high fructose corn syrup.

[00:22:38] He explains in here how the high fructose corn syrup came to be

[00:22:44] because government got involved in the markets of sugar.

[00:22:48] And some people will prefer, and I have somebody I know that will buy his Coca-Cola from Mexico

[00:22:54] because it's got real sugar and not fructose.

[00:22:58] So it reminds me of when the cotton industry did their thing on hemp.

[00:23:07] The hemp industry, and we're not talking about marijuana.

[00:23:10] The hemp plant is a strong plant and made fabric and things that lasted, rope that lasted forever.

[00:23:18] And you can still find some hemp rope.

[00:23:20] But the cotton industry went after them to lift up the cotton industry.

[00:23:24] So it kind of reminded me of that when I was reading this article.

[00:23:28] And here we have these industrial complexes working corporations.

[00:23:34] Trying to kick one out so the other one gets more.

[00:23:36] So fructose came to be because the government got involved in the markets.

[00:23:43] That's a deeper subject for maybe another day.

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[00:28:10] So, the industrial complexes.

[00:28:12] We have the military industrial complex.

[00:28:16] We have the media industrial complex.

[00:28:18] And we have been living through this.

[00:28:20] They're working.

[00:28:20] They're all in cahoots.

[00:28:22] Let's put it that way.

[00:28:24] And then we have the bureaucratic industrial complex.

[00:28:30] So, I told you about this a while back.

[00:28:34] And we'll get into this a little bit more, I think, tomorrow.

[00:28:38] About the Section F.

[00:28:42] Creating Schedule F.

[00:28:43] I always say it wrong.

[00:28:44] It's Schedule F, not Section F.

[00:28:49] And this guy that wrote this, I got this back in June of 2022.

[00:28:55] That's when I shared it with you the first time.

[00:28:59] And he starts out his article.

[00:29:00] Now, this is Jeffrey Tucker.

[00:29:01] And I got this off of Epoch Times.

[00:29:03] Epic Times.

[00:29:05] It sounds boring, he says, but actually it would have fundamentally changed in the best possible way

[00:29:11] the entire functioning of the administrative bureaucracy that rules this country

[00:29:19] in a way that bypasses both the legislative and judicial process

[00:29:23] and has ruined the checks and balances inherent in the U.S. Constitution.

[00:29:29] In other words, Schedule F was something that was created to help presidents get rid of certain bureaucratic employees.

[00:29:45] They are protected somehow, some way.

[00:29:48] And then in this, he talked about the Pendleton Act.

[00:29:51] And I remember when I went through this the first time, I had to look that up.

[00:29:55] What on earth is the Pendleton Act?

[00:29:58] So with that, I'm going to put this down.

[00:30:02] And I'm going to pick up the development of bureaucracy.

[00:30:07] Can you say that for me, Rudy?

[00:30:09] Bureaucracy?

[00:30:10] No, I cannot.

[00:30:12] He always gets mad when he's proofreading my writings.

[00:30:14] And I have the word bureaucracy in there.

[00:30:18] All right.

[00:30:19] You can say it right when you read silently, can't you?

[00:30:22] Yeah, no problem then.

[00:30:25] Andrew Jackson.

[00:30:27] Now, that goes back.

[00:30:28] That's old hickory stick.

[00:30:30] He's got his pros and his cons, does he not?

[00:30:33] He cemented the spoil system.

[00:30:35] Now, what is the spoil system?

[00:30:38] It's also called rotation in office.

[00:30:41] And that happened during his presidency.

[00:30:45] He formed his own group of advisors from his friends and political allies known as the Kitchen Cabinet to support his goals for the nation.

[00:30:57] In other words, he was only putting people around him that agreed with him and that he liked.

[00:31:03] The original bureaucracy of the federal government consisted only of employees from three small departments.

[00:31:12] State Treasury and War, the executive branch employs today almost 3 million people.

[00:31:20] Not only have the numbers of bureaucrats grown, but also the methods and standards for hiring and promoting people has changed dramatically.

[00:31:33] Patronage.

[00:31:35] George Washington promised to hire only people.

[00:31:38] Now, look at this.

[00:31:40] From Jackson, who was how many presidencies away from George, who was first, promised to hire only people as shall be best qualified.

[00:31:53] He wasn't going to surround himself with yes men.

[00:31:59] Still, most of the employees belonged to the budding Federalist Party.

[00:32:03] The party toward which President Washington leaned.

[00:32:08] When Democrat-Republican Thomas Jefferson became president, he dismissed many of the Federalists and filled their jobs with members from his party.

[00:32:19] With this action, he began a long tradition of filling government positions through patronage.

[00:32:28] A system of rewarding friends and political allies in exchange for their support.

[00:32:34] And I think we're witnessing some of that with President Trump.

[00:32:37] I think there's no doubt that he is trying to choose those who he knows is on board with what he wants to do and what we have elected him to do.

[00:32:50] Andrew Jackson, though, is regarded as the president who entrenched the patronage of spoils system.

[00:33:00] Following the old saying, to the victor go the spoils.

[00:33:05] And he brought a whole new group of Jacksonian Democrats into office.

[00:33:15] Jackson argued that the spoils system brought greater rotation in the office.

[00:33:22] Well, I guess that's true.

[00:33:23] You wouldn't have anybody too confident in their jobs, would you, if the next election came along?

[00:33:29] And, of course, that might influence them on which way to vote, too.

[00:33:33] He thought it was healthy to clear out the government workers who had worked for predecessors, lest they become corrupt.

[00:33:42] Now, he wasn't mistaken in that, was he?

[00:33:45] Have we not seen that?

[00:33:47] Some of these bureaucrats are, they have a safety net and they can't be fired.

[00:33:54] And we saw what they did with President Donald J. Trump in his first term.

[00:34:00] And we also saw, if we're old enough to remember or if we were paying close attention, which I was not paying as close attention back then,

[00:34:09] how they fought against everything President Reagan wanted to do.

[00:34:15] Now, the Postal Service, the U.S. Postal Service, has changed along with the nation.

[00:34:21] From the Pony Express to today's uniformed postal workers, these bureaucrats deliver the mail every day regardless of the weather.

[00:34:32] Well, you might have to say, tell my sister who lives in Kansas City that because they have terrible mail coverage.

[00:34:39] They don't even come every day to the mailbox.

[00:34:41] She goes, we never, we don't get our bills on time.

[00:34:44] We don't even get, if we want to get them paid, we got to take them.

[00:34:51] During the 1800s, while more and more federal employees were landing their jobs through patronage,

[00:34:58] the bureaucracy was growing rapidly as new demands were placed on government.

[00:35:05] As the country expanded westward, new agencies were needed to manage the land and its settlement.

[00:35:13] And as people moved into the new areas, a greatly expanded post office was necessary.

[00:35:20] The Civil War sparked the creation of thousands of government jobs and new departments to handle the demands of warfare.

[00:35:27] After the war, the Industrial Revolution encouraged economic growth and more government agencies to regulate the expanding economy where needed.

[00:35:40] And the Pendleton Act was a merit-based civil service.

[00:35:48] The spoils tradition was diluted in 1881 when Charles Gautau, a disappointed office seeker,

[00:35:57] killed President James Garfield because he was not granted a government job.

[00:36:03] After Garfield's assassination, Congress passed the Pendleton's Act, which created a merit-based federal civil service.

[00:36:14] Now, someone in the room here was a civil servant, weren't you?

[00:36:18] Did you have to take a test?

[00:36:21] Yes, ma'am, I did.

[00:36:22] See?

[00:36:22] It was meant to replace patronage.

[00:36:25] The Pendleton Act created three-member civil service commission to administer the new merit system.

[00:36:35] So they had to have a new branch of bureaucracy to initiate this.

[00:36:40] At first, only about 10% of the federal employees were members of the civil service.

[00:36:46] But now, today, and I'm not sure what date this was written because it didn't have it on that website,

[00:36:54] but 85 to 90% take this exam.

[00:36:59] I found that interesting because we've got all these DEI hires.

[00:37:07] So growth really took on in the 20th century.

[00:37:12] In a reaction to the excess, gilded age of millionaires,

[00:37:16] many Americans, and this comes to what we were talking about earlier in the show,

[00:37:20] demanded that the government regulate businesses and industries.

[00:37:23] Some of them were getting too big for their britches,

[00:37:26] so now we have to have government come in and regulate them.

[00:37:30] I found this interesting.

[00:37:32] I hope that you do as well.

[00:37:35] Because we all look at them as red-necked pencil pushers.

[00:37:40] Sitting in those offices and shuffling papers.

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[00:42:08] Somebody just reminded me, one of my listeners.

[00:42:10] We'll just call him a listener.

[00:42:13] We won't give names.

[00:42:15] He reminded me that when Bush was elected,

[00:42:18] the bureaucrats in the Clinton administration

[00:42:20] trashed computers.

[00:42:22] I'd forgotten about that.

[00:42:26] And interesting how they get a little testy

[00:42:31] when they have a change of command.

[00:42:34] So as things grew,

[00:42:36] and they came up with,

[00:42:39] as we were talking about,

[00:42:40] the millionaire age,

[00:42:41] where some, I guess,

[00:42:42] they were making some money.

[00:42:43] So they created the Interstate Commerce Commission.

[00:42:47] And that was set up in 1887

[00:42:49] to monitor abuses in the railroad industry.

[00:42:53] Reform movements of the 20th century

[00:42:56] demanded that government regulate child labor,

[00:43:03] food processing and packaging,

[00:43:05] and working and living conditions

[00:43:07] in the laboring classes.

[00:43:11] The Civilian Conservation Corps

[00:43:14] was part of Roosevelt's New Deal program

[00:43:18] to battle the Depression.

[00:43:22] Aimed at employing men

[00:43:23] between the ages of 18 and 25,

[00:43:26] over 3 million men joined the CCC

[00:43:30] and became members of the federal bureaucracy

[00:43:33] between 1833 and,

[00:43:35] I'm sorry, 1933 and 1941.

[00:43:39] The largest growth of bureaucracy

[00:43:42] in American history

[00:43:44] came to be at that time,

[00:43:49] between 1933 and 1945.

[00:43:53] Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal

[00:43:55] meant bigger government.

[00:43:57] Now, as we know today,

[00:43:59] Franklin Roosevelt was a huge socialist.

[00:44:04] And so bureaucracy was what he wanted.

[00:44:09] He also wanted World War II.

[00:44:13] It says,

[00:44:14] During the 12 years of Roosevelt,

[00:44:18] the total number of federal employees

[00:44:21] increased from a little over half a million

[00:44:24] in 1933

[00:44:25] to an all-time high

[00:44:28] of more than 3.5 million

[00:44:31] in 1945.

[00:44:35] It went from,

[00:44:36] in his 12 years,

[00:44:39] it went from a half a million

[00:44:42] to three and a half million

[00:44:45] employees.

[00:44:47] And I don't think we've recouped

[00:44:49] from that yet.

[00:44:52] After World War II,

[00:44:53] it says,

[00:44:55] In 1945,

[00:44:56] the total number of federal employees

[00:44:59] decreased significantly,

[00:45:02] but still has remained

[00:45:04] at a level between

[00:45:05] two and a half to three million.

[00:45:07] Contrary to popular opinion,

[00:45:09] it says in this article,

[00:45:11] the federal bureaucracy

[00:45:13] did not grow in number significantly,

[00:45:16] significantly,

[00:45:17] I'm trying to read too fast,

[00:45:19] during the 20th century.

[00:45:21] Federal bureaucrats did, however,

[00:45:24] greatly increased their influence,

[00:45:26] and I'm going to add the word power.

[00:45:30] The organization of the bureaucracy.

[00:45:34] And this is where I got,

[00:45:36] and I know we've all said it before,

[00:45:38] red tape paper pushers.

[00:45:40] We used to call them pencil pushers.

[00:45:42] That was the accountants.

[00:45:43] Bean counters.

[00:45:45] That's what we looked at them as doing.

[00:45:47] Vast cookie cutter buildings

[00:45:49] with fluorescent lighting

[00:45:51] and thousands of file cabinets.

[00:45:54] Those are the images

[00:45:56] that come to mind

[00:45:57] when many Americans think

[00:45:59] of government bureaucracy.

[00:46:01] A bureaucrat

[00:46:02] is someone who works

[00:46:04] in the administrative capacity

[00:46:06] for the government.

[00:46:08] How important are bureaucrats

[00:46:10] and their government agencies

[00:46:11] in actuality?

[00:46:14] Well, they're actually running

[00:46:15] the United States government,

[00:46:17] aren't they?

[00:46:17] According to some,

[00:46:19] they are the real government.

[00:46:20] The ones behind the scenes

[00:46:22] who go to work

[00:46:23] when the politicians

[00:46:24] are enjoying the spotlight.

[00:46:27] Max Weber's bureaucracy.

[00:46:31] Max Weber is known

[00:46:32] as the founder

[00:46:33] of modern sociology.

[00:46:35] He was a German sociologist

[00:46:37] and was one of the first people

[00:46:39] in modern times

[00:46:40] of that day

[00:46:41] to think seriously

[00:46:42] about the importance

[00:46:44] of bureaucracy,

[00:46:46] which we have to laugh out about.

[00:46:48] Now,

[00:46:49] the term actually came

[00:46:51] from the word bureau

[00:46:52] and so that's where

[00:46:53] we get bureaucracy.

[00:46:55] Referencing the small desks

[00:46:56] that King's representatives

[00:46:58] set up in towns

[00:46:59] and blah, blah, blah.

[00:47:01] He wrote

[00:47:02] about Germany

[00:47:05] during the 20th century

[00:47:06] when developing capitalism

[00:47:09] was spawning

[00:47:10] more and more

[00:47:12] large businesses.

[00:47:14] You know,

[00:47:15] socialists do not like capitalism.

[00:47:17] The changing economic scene

[00:47:20] had important implications

[00:47:21] for government.

[00:47:23] Weber saw,

[00:47:24] now this is where we think

[00:47:25] it's funny,

[00:47:26] where I think it's funny,

[00:47:29] Weber saw bureaucracy

[00:47:31] as a rational way

[00:47:33] for complex businesses

[00:47:35] and governments

[00:47:35] to organize

[00:47:36] he did not see them

[00:47:38] as necessary evils,

[00:47:40] but as the best

[00:47:41] organizational response

[00:47:43] to a changing society.

[00:47:45] He thought they were efficient.

[00:47:48] Perhaps they should be efficient.

[00:47:51] Perhaps they could be efficient.

[00:47:53] if they had somebody

[00:47:55] really looking over them

[00:47:58] and holding them accountable.

[00:47:59] But the bureaucracy

[00:48:01] of today,

[00:48:03] they're not held

[00:48:05] accountable.

[00:48:06] Now,

[00:48:07] according to Weber,

[00:48:09] model bureaucracies

[00:48:10] have the following

[00:48:11] characteristics.

[00:48:12] A chain of command

[00:48:14] that his

[00:48:15] hierarchical,

[00:48:16] hierarchical,

[00:48:17] a hierarchy,

[00:48:18] the top bureaucrat,

[00:48:20] ultimate control.

[00:48:21] The authority

[00:48:22] flows down,

[00:48:23] not up,

[00:48:24] flows down.

[00:48:25] A clear vision of labor,

[00:48:27] I'm sorry,

[00:48:28] clear division of labor

[00:48:29] in which every individual

[00:48:30] has a specialized job.

[00:48:34] Clearly written,

[00:48:35] well-established,

[00:48:36] formal rules

[00:48:37] that all people

[00:48:38] in the organization

[00:48:39] follow.

[00:48:41] A clearly divine

[00:48:42] set of goals

[00:48:43] that all people

[00:48:44] in the organization

[00:48:46] strive toward.

[00:48:48] He also

[00:48:49] believed in

[00:48:50] merit-based

[00:48:51] hiring and promotion.

[00:48:53] No granting of jobs

[00:48:55] to friends or families

[00:48:56] unless they are

[00:48:57] the best qualified.

[00:48:59] That is something

[00:49:00] that has failed

[00:49:01] in our government bureaucracy.

[00:49:04] They believe

[00:49:05] in the DEI,

[00:49:06] not in merit.

[00:49:08] His last one here

[00:49:10] was job performance

[00:49:11] that is judged

[00:49:12] by productivity

[00:49:13] of how much work

[00:49:15] an individual

[00:49:16] gets done.

[00:49:17] Hey,

[00:49:17] kind of like

[00:49:18] an assembly line

[00:49:19] in the factory,

[00:49:20] right?

[00:49:20] But it doesn't

[00:49:21] turn out that way.

[00:49:22] That's the problem.

[00:49:23] The bureaucracy

[00:49:24] isn't held accountable.

[00:49:26] Weber emphasized

[00:49:28] the importance

[00:49:29] of the bureaucracy

[00:49:30] in getting things done

[00:49:32] and believed

[00:49:32] that a well-organized,

[00:49:34] rational,

[00:49:35] bureaucrat,

[00:49:36] now I'm acting

[00:49:38] like Rudy,

[00:49:38] bureaucracy

[00:49:39] is the secret

[00:49:41] behind the successful

[00:49:43] operation

[00:49:43] of modern societies.

[00:49:48] There will be

[00:49:49] more news tomorrow,

[00:49:51] but we're going to

[00:49:52] study the Iron Triangle.

[00:49:54] Have you ever heard

[00:49:55] of the Iron Triangle?

[00:49:57] We see that triangle.

[00:50:00] We know what the government

[00:50:01] did with the triangle

[00:50:02] for our food

[00:50:03] and nutrition,

[00:50:05] but what about

[00:50:06] the governmental triangle?

[00:50:07] Okay, spoiler alert.

[00:50:09] Interest groups,

[00:50:10] members of congressional

[00:50:13] subcommittees,

[00:50:14] and agency bureaucrats.

[00:50:17] That is the Iron Triangle,

[00:50:19] and we're going to

[00:50:20] look at that a little bit

[00:50:21] tomorrow.

[00:50:21] We will start there.

[00:50:23] You've been listening

[00:50:24] to CSE Talk Radio.

[00:50:26] This is Beth,

[00:50:26] and I hope you have

[00:50:27] enjoyed this

[00:50:28] because I find it

[00:50:29] extremely interesting,

[00:50:31] and if we're going to

[00:50:32] send Elon and Vivek

[00:50:33] in there to cut her down,

[00:50:35] we better know

[00:50:36] what we're cutting

[00:50:37] and what they're up against.

[00:50:40] Let's do this,

[00:50:41] and we will bring

[00:50:42] America home.

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[00:51:47] Do we lack enthusiasm

[00:51:49] and understanding

[00:51:50] of the word liberty?

[00:51:51] Do we weep for liberty

[00:51:52] which we have lost?

[00:51:53] Or do we simply not

[00:51:55] understand the substance

[00:51:56] and sacrifice

[00:51:57] for which we were

[00:51:58] once privileged?

[00:51:59] Liberty.

[00:52:00] Webster defines liberty

[00:52:01] as the state of being

[00:52:02] free within society

[00:52:03] from oppressive restrictions

[00:52:05] imposed by others

[00:52:06] authority on one's life,

[00:52:07] behavior,

[00:52:08] or political views.

[00:52:10] Today we seem

[00:52:11] to want restrictions.

[00:52:13] Government micromanaging

[00:52:14] our lives?

[00:52:15] But do we realize

[00:52:16] the cost?

[00:52:18] Alexander Hamilton

[00:52:19] once stated,

[00:52:20] There is a certain

[00:52:21] enthusiasm in liberty

[00:52:22] that makes human nature

[00:52:23] rise above itself

[00:52:25] in acts of bravery

[00:52:26] and heroism.

[00:52:27] As a republic,

[00:52:29] we the people

[00:52:29] must guard

[00:52:30] the liberty of others.

[00:52:31] We must continue

[00:52:32] the enthusiasm

[00:52:33] that will make men free.

[00:52:36] Visit csctalkradio.com

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